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ELEAGUE Major 2017 Day 4 Match Discussions
ELEAGUE Major 2017
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Streams
EL TV | SLTV | TeamFrenzyGG | 99Damage | O'GamingTV | SpaGamers | GieTe
Timezones
| PST | EST | BRST | GMT | CET | CST | AEDT |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Los Angeles | Atlanta | São Paulo | London | Cologne | Beijing | Canberra |
| UTC-8 | UTC-5 | UTC-2 | - | UTC+1 | UTC+8 | UTC+11 |
Schedule
| ID | Team 1 | vs | Team 2 | Result | PST | EST | BRST | GMT | CET | CST | AEDT |
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| D1 | North | vs | G2 | 16-9 | 07:00 | 10:00 | 13:00 | 15:00 | 16:00 | 23:00 | 02:00 |
| D2 | nV | vs | FNC | 11-16 | 08:30 | 11:30 | 14:30 | 16:30 | 17:30 | 00:30 | 03:30 |
| D3 | mouz | vs | TL | 4-16 | 09:55 | 12:55 | 15:55 | 17:55 | 18:55 | 01:55 | 04:55 |
| D4 | GOD | vs | OG | 16-8 | 10:55 | 13:55 | 16:55 | 18:55 | 19:55 | 02:55 | 05:55 |
| D5 | SK | vs | Ast | 19-17 | 12:00 | 15:00 | 18:00 | 20:00 | 21:00 | 04:00 | 07:00 |
| D6 | GMB | vs | FaZe | 16-14 | 13:35 | 16:35 | 19:35 | 21:35 | 22:35 | 05:35 | 08:35 |
| E1 | North | vs | GOD | 19-17 | 15:35 | 18:35 | 21:35 | 23:35 | 00:35 | 07:35 | 10:35 |
| E2 | FaZe | vs | nV | 16-11 | 17:20 | 20:20 | 23:20 | 01:20 | 02:20 | 09:20 | 12:20 |
| E3 | TL | vs | Ast | 3-16 | 18:20 | 21:20 | 00:20 | 02:20 | 03:20 | 10:20 | 13:20 |
Standings
| Place | Team Name | W&L | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 |
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| 1. | Virtus.pro | 3-0 | 16-13 | 16-14 | 16-10 | ||
| 1. | Natus Vincere | 3-0 | 16-3 | 16-6 | 16-3 | ||
| 3. | Fnatic | 3-1 | 10-16 | 16-13 | 16-11 | 16-11 | |
| 3. | SK Gaming | 3-1 | 16-7 | 19-17 | 3-16 | 19-17 | |
| 3. | Gambit Esports | 3-1 | 16-8 | 16-9 | 10-16 | 16-14 | |
| 6. | North | 3-2 | 8-16 | 13-16 | 19-15 | 16-9 | 19-17 |
| 6. | FaZe Clan | 3-2 | 16-9 | 17-19 | 22-18 | 14-16 | 16-11 |
| 6. | Astralis | 3-2 | 6-16 | 16-12 | 16-5 | 17-19 | 16-3 |
| 9. | | 2-3 | 16-6 | 9-16 | 3-16 | 16-8 | 17-19 |
| 9. | | 2-3 | 25-21 | 6-16 | 16-3 | 11-16 | 11-16 |
| 9. | | 2-3 | 21-25 | 16-14 | 18-22 | 16-4 | 3-16 |
| 12. | | 1-3 | 16-10 | 14-16 | 5-16 | 9-16 | |
| 12. | | 1-3 | 3-16 | 16-7 | 11-16 | 4-16 | |
| 12. | | 1-3 | 13-16 | 12-16 | 16-13 | 8-16 | |
| 15. | | 0-3 | 9-16 | 14-16 | 13-16 | ||
| 15. | | 0-3 | 7-16 | 7-16 | 15-19 |
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u/Allidicci valeria Jan 25 '17
Can someone please make a 'evolution of Magisk', guys turning more tomato for each day that passes
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jan 25 '17 edited Jan 25 '17
Choke.exe loading, 3/16 (18.75%) |-X-------|
Update: Choke.exe loading, 4/16 (25.00%) |--X------|
Update: Choke.exe loading, unpacking EcoLoss.dll
Update: ERROR: Choke.exe - EcoLoss.dll failed
Update: FATAL ERROR: MouzChokePreventionManager has disabled Choke.exe
Update: Choke.exe closing
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u/RylanTheWalrus 10 years coin Jan 25 '17
I honestly don't know if anyone is beating Na'vi right now, they're on an absolute tear
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u/AST56 Jan 25 '17
I think Na'vi is gonna win the whole tournament. I've bet on them every game they played and I will continue to do so.
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u/KraaiPastoor Jan 26 '17
Flusha played that like a God.
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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jan 26 '17
Flusha is so fucking sick. Super consistent over his career, always clutch as hell
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u/KraaiPastoor Jan 26 '17
I agree, he is one of the best ever to play this game. Not only just his aiming, but he reads the game so well.
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Jan 25 '17
This is probably fnatic's best chance to make legends, hopefully papa Olof and dennis carry us through
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Jan 25 '17
Olof vs Kenny, two players with the ability to come back as the best players in the world, but both in bad shape.
It's funny to see such legendary players facing off in the middle bracket.
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u/TheNorfolk Jan 25 '17
Kenny has been sick recently, give him a team to play off of and he could be best in the world again
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u/AlexBayArea Cloud9 Jan 25 '17
The story about Zeus got me all emotional. Hope he reaches his dreams of winning a championship with them.
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u/dbatt34 Jan 25 '17
Came to watch the major because of Optic. Now I will stay watching the major because of the level of play I'm seeing from NaVi. I just started watching CSGO and don't know much, but watching them has been incredible.
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jan 25 '17
Na'Vi is playing next-level CS.
If you want another team that plays "CS as it's meant to be played" look at Virtus Pro.
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u/henry25555 FURIA Jan 25 '17
And SK does it again. We don't know how, but they do it.
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u/PlatinumOp Jan 25 '17
I think the elimination matches will be EnvyUs vs FaZe(if faze lose), Godsent vs North and Astralis vs Liquid
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u/Mancho_United Jan 25 '17
Ok, so they went with a draw and DREW EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID WTF?!
RIGGED!
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u/Fexxus Liquid Jan 26 '17
Hiko top fragging with 60 ADR. I think that pretty much wraps it up boys.
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u/KermitThe__Frog Astralis Jan 26 '17
Astralis v Liquid... fuck me. The two teams I would have liked to see advance.
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u/7Seyo7 NiP Jan 26 '17
Good news: At least one of the teams you're rooting for will advance to the playoffs. Not everyone gets that luxury...
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u/icebliss MOUZ Jan 25 '17
gg Mouse
Well not really but still
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jan 25 '17
Their strat can be applied to every map: "Niko, go in and destroy them. We have no idea what to do anyways"
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jan 25 '17
Actually I feel sad for Spiidi, I mean that must be so incredibly frustrating and depressing for him :(
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u/linoleuM-- Jan 25 '17
Yup... I would even say it looks like he knows that was possibly one of his last chance at a major. I can't imagine the mouz lineup will remain the same after this.
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u/siziyman Jan 25 '17
Main thing to learn watching SK - Astralis: NaVi are fucking miles ahead as far as we know.
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jan 25 '17
I'm not willing to commit to that. NaVi vs SK wasn't as much a blowout as the scoreline showed. Very many close moments, and they ALL went to NaVi. Especially at mid - literally every time SK turned their xhair one way, s1mple or flamie would peek from the other side.
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u/siziyman Jan 25 '17
I agree it wasn't such a blowout. But it was still more than convincing.
Also losing every close situation probably means that SK players at this exact moment or period are doing worse than their NaVi counterparts.
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u/fightinchunk Jan 25 '17
pls TL... our last hope
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u/hellyhot Virtus.pro Jan 25 '17
I'm shitting myself at the moment D: I don't know how could they do it
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u/halolover009 Jan 25 '17
Hopefully optic won't have to play train against Godsent. They can win it for sure, but it'll be scary and my heart can't take another match like last nights.
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u/SouthernMainland Jan 25 '17
This is the nV I know. Happy the IGL is quiet. KennyS is frustrated as hell with the game. All I'm missing at this point is a round where they simply breakdown in calls and someone on fnatic gets a backstab they should never get.
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u/Follow_The_Lore MOUZ Jan 25 '17
If mouse win pistol, I have a feeling they might have a chance lol
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jan 25 '17
Cold vs Device, two of the top 5 players in the world in a 1v1, the drama in this GAME
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u/Natunen Natus Vincere Jan 25 '17
How the fuck can you lose EVERYTIME against pistols. FOR FUCK'S SAKE
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u/kansasct Jan 25 '17
Last time I played CS was in 1.6. I'm enjoying my first Major even though I don't understand most of the terms.
Question: Do teams actually get grenade POV when they throw them like they show on stream or is that just additional image for us viewers?
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u/VINCE_C_ de_overpass Jan 25 '17
We are incredibly fucked.
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u/TheFlyingSquirrel1 ar_baggage Jan 25 '17
I really hope we can pull a miracle out of our asses, if elige and nitro both do well then JDM is able to just hit the easy shots with Hiko and Pimp doing ok we can win. It is going to be hard but there is a chance there is some crazy skill on this team
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u/IllusionaryWeaver NiP Jan 25 '17
Did North just fake a disconnect to force a technical timeout and round reset after Rubino had bought up when everyone else had to eco? at 5-3 North vs Godsent. After the reset of course they did a full eco...
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u/Soledo Jan 26 '17
Pronax 10 kills in 36 rounds. Same shit, different day. Maybe he is a good IGL but it's almost like Godsent have to play 4v5 every single match.
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u/TheOnlyCreed Astralis Jan 26 '17
yes nuke! i feel like im the only one that likes this map :/
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u/tyjohns324 Jan 26 '17
I feel bad for Kenny. Such a good player like Niko stuck on under performing teams, in a league full of power teams.
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u/Georg_Schmo FaZe Jan 26 '17
Never mind the french shuffle - if astralis manage to choke this now against liquid you can expect a mass suicide followed by the danish shuffle
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u/alaphant42 Godsent Jan 25 '17
I want to believe that Godsent can beat Optic, but it isn't looking like it.
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u/maq358 Jan 25 '17
They have the veterans, and if they play like they did against Astralis and play with confidence they could certainly have a good chance at winning. Especially if Optic screw up and allow train
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u/16miles Natus Vincere Jan 25 '17
Not trying to be repetitive, but so far I have yet to see a single team that looks as dominant as Navi look right now.
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u/AlexBayArea Cloud9 Jan 25 '17
I'm so hyped for Na'Vi. These guys have looked absolutely flawless so far in every game.
Interested to see if Fnatic can win this match and keep legend status despite the questions everyone had about them.
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u/AlexBayArea Cloud9 Jan 25 '17
Impressive 2nd half from Fnatic. Happy to see them make the playoffs. Excited for the remaining games. Another day of sitting back and watching some CS:GO.
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u/rockstar2012 Jan 25 '17
So what do we call this next match, choke bowl or choke derby?
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jan 25 '17
Mouse doesnt choke! (because they usually dont lead)
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u/ajwhite98 Jan 25 '17
I know it's far from over, but christ optic....
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u/InZaneFlea Liquid Jan 25 '17
Yeeeeeaaahhhh no it's done. Should've stayed with my TL flair. Not like they have a chance either though.
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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jan 25 '17
"...a pretty common mistake that you don't often see..."
I aren't think that
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u/gamespace 5 years coin Jan 25 '17
im pretty speechless at optic going out like this. had really high hopes for them.
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u/Pluralverbs Jan 25 '17
This is my favorite game I've ever seen. Even though the triple awp ended up not working(in a 1v1 clutch), it was still awesome to see and made me realize this team has four dirty awpers. Hope to see ot.
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jan 25 '17
Hrrrrrrrk my heart, this tournament is taking years off my life
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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jan 25 '17
RIP GODSENT.
Also, the 2-2 draws upset me, I had both North and GODSENT advancing and had neither FaZe nor EnVy advancing
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u/Jesse2909 Jan 26 '17
godsent look lost in some of these rounds. Hopefully they step up on the t side
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u/TheOnlyCreed Astralis Jan 26 '17
fucking JW is going off right now! Lets hope he keeps it up going into second half.
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jan 26 '17
So many teams in this major should learn how to play anti-ecos. I cant remember a huge tournament with so many ecos/force buys won
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u/Fexxus Liquid Jan 26 '17
Wtf pull out another grenade after flushing someone out with a molly? Is this silver?
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u/AemonDK Jan 25 '17
holy shit, i completely forgot about titan/g2's history at majors. there was never any chance of them advancing
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u/kapparino-feederino Godsent Jan 25 '17
whats that keyboard envyus use, looks quite good
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u/_Antz ENCE Jan 25 '17
THE MAP IS NUKE RIP MOUSE
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jan 25 '17
Cobble vs Navi, losing their best map versus Fnatic and now this... they should not practice playing, they should practice vetoing
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u/Follow_The_Lore MOUZ Jan 25 '17
Just remember, T side should be the hardest side for a team that doesn't really know how to play the map If mouse get 5 on t side, i'd say they have a chance.
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u/erb_fan King NiKo Jan 25 '17
Mousesports didn't want to play the quarters apparently
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u/Schn1tzerr BIG Jan 25 '17
I don't get the Overpass ban and even the cobble ban was dumb. They would've done better on ANY map except nuke. Hilarious.
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u/linoleuM-- Jan 25 '17
Is NiKo still the IGL? Some of those strats have been shocking...
Edit: doesn't help that they all forgot how to aim apart from NiKo
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jan 25 '17
Dat positioning in the 1v2 - the furthest away from the bomb sites and not checking anything. Mouse deserves to go out so badly, I am sorry to say so
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Jan 25 '17
lol this game is done gg
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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jan 25 '17
I don't watch much OpTic, do they tilt easily, or can they stay calm and claw back?
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jan 25 '17
Doesnt Cache have the reputation of being t-sided sometimes, especially in NA cs?
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u/LordNelson27 Parivision Jan 25 '17
I'm worried for Optic. They've had 3 close games, but we have yet to see if GODsent or HOMEsent shows up to the match to either play a 16-3 match or a 3-16 match.
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u/LongShotTheory de_cobble Jan 25 '17
if they win pistol round they are right back in it. If they lose it's a difficult situation.
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u/MLGameOver G2 Jan 25 '17
So Envy can't play Liquid nor Godsent tomorrow yea? I don't think they can beat loser of SK/Astralis, so their best bet is loser of Faze/Gambit and North.
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jan 25 '17
holy hell, that boost. 14-14 in a major, 3v3, enemy is on bombsite. How do you have the discipline to wait until you hear the noise?
These guys are insane.
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u/NossyEsports Jan 25 '17
This is defo one of my highlight games so far of the major, its nuts!
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jan 25 '17
Hope SK gets paired up with Navi straight away in the quarters
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u/thecircumsizer Jan 25 '17
Day 4 no drops, first tournament I've watched this much. Awesome matches though. My pick Virtus Pro is still 3-0.
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u/AllWoWNoSham Godsent Jan 25 '17
I've watched multiple games of every major for about 3 years (Since Katowice 2014), and I've never once gotten a drop. Feels bad man.
EDIT : Just went back and checked and I've watched since Dreamhack Winter 2013!!!!!!
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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jan 25 '17 edited Jan 25 '17
Seeding so far for the playoffs:
VP (3-0, pool 1).
Na'Vi (3-0, pool 2).
3-tie) Fnatic (3-1, pool 1).
3-tie) SK (3-1, pool 1).Gambit (3-1, pool 2).
Edit: predictions for 6-8 seed.
6) Astralis (3-2, pool 2).
7-tie) FaZe (3-2, pool 3).
7-tie) North (3-2, pool 3)
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u/leaf_blowr Jan 25 '17
Kennys' reactions are just as fast irl https://clips.twitch.tv/eleaguetv/ComfortablePigPartyTime
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u/bhavinshah_321 Natus Vincere Jan 25 '17
Godsent vs North... predictions?
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u/TheFlyingSquirrel1 ar_baggage Jan 25 '17 edited Jan 26 '17
Godsent 16-13 on Cobble
Shit: Pronax ruined the prediction
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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jan 25 '17
JW going for knife is why he is one of my favorite players and so exciting to watch
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u/DCwired Jan 25 '17
is it just me or does anyone else find henryG's casting really annoying he never stop talking and talks so fast. I CANT HANDLE IT BRUH, SLOW DOWN.
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u/halolover009 Jan 25 '17
Can coaches say "let's call a timeout?" Or is it a player decision? I know they can't speak until it's a timeout (tactical one) but how does that work?
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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jan 26 '17
God dammit, GODSENT should have had that and the pistol round
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u/AmanoMaster Virtus.pro Jan 26 '17
Goddamned Molotov, pratically losing the round by Flusha https://clips.twitch.tv/eleaguetv/MotionlessChoughANELE
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u/Aldebaroth NiP Jan 26 '17
How heavy can Pronax be? All his teammates with 20+ kills with impact frags and he is sitting with 9 kills
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u/GDOV Jan 26 '17
If we put Astralis for 3-0, do we still get any points if they go through the group stage?
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u/Shaun2Legit Jan 26 '17
My pick'em has been absolutely ruined. Such a competitive tournament, everything is down the the wire or OT. Only been a handful of proper stomps.
Salty, but great CS on display
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Jan 26 '17
I'm hearing the caster's and analysts talking about how astralis and navi are favourites but I haven't heard much about VP even though they've had a great start so far, I just find that weird
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u/Drahok Legendary Flair Master Jan 26 '17
they were really underwhelming at WESG wich is just a week ago
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u/ImThour Banner Artist Jan 25 '17
North will win.
Fnatic to win.
Team Liquid will win.
Optic Gaming will win.
SK will win.
Gambit will win.
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u/_Antz ENCE Jan 25 '17
And the choke begins https://clips.twitch.tv/eleaguetv/RelievedTermiteDAESuppy
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u/Barrier07 Jan 25 '17 edited Jan 25 '17
G2 > North
Liquid > Mouse
Optic > Godsent
Astralis > SK
Faze > Gambit
Fnatic > Envy
Anyone else agree/disagree?
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u/Dubzayy Jan 25 '17
I have the exact same except for fnatic vs envy, KennyS and NBK played great last night and if they show up like that again it could quickly become one sided for Envy. However olof and krimz were also playing really good last night, I hope all 4 of these players show up so we can watch some good quality CS.
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u/mafiazzz G2 Jan 25 '17
G2 wins against North
Liquid wins against Mouse
Optic wins against Godsent
Sk wins against Astralis
FaZe wins against Gambit
Fnatic wins against NV
Anyone disagree/agree?
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u/Drahok Legendary Flair Master Jan 26 '17
at least one game that does not go to overtime. I should be in bed sleeping now
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u/swiftwin Jan 26 '17
Imaging the heat Thorin will get if Liquid knocks out Astralis to be the last team to make the playoffs.
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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '17
Looks like Spiidi has embraced pacificism