r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Jan 23 '17
Discussion | eSports FlipSid3 Tactics vs Team Liquid / ELEAGUE Major 2017 - Round 2 / Post-Match Discussion
FlipSid3 Tactics 0-1 Team Liquid
Overpass: 14-16
Who was the MVP for this map? (POLL)
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MAP: Overpass
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| F3 | 9 | 5 | 14 |
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| TL | 6 | 10 | 16 |
| F3 | K | A | D |
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| markeloff | 26 | 2 | 18 |
| electronic | 24 | 1 | 21 |
| B1ad3 | 20 | 4 | 21 |
| WorldEdit | 18 | 3 | 23 |
| wayLander | 12 | 5 | 26 |
| TL | |||
| EliGE | 37 | 8 | 21 |
| jdm64 | 23 | 5 | 21 |
| Pimp | 21 | 2 | 18 |
| Hiko | 20 | 7 | 18 |
| nitr0 | 8 | 4 | 22 |
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u/entertainmeimbored 400k Celebration Jan 23 '17
Elige carrying so hard that nitr0 has lost all confidence
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u/stitch2k1 Liquid Jan 23 '17
he was getting naded and flanked a lot during that game, Id also bet he was like "alright Im just gonna support or something now, jon you win rounds"
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u/buldieb 750k Celebration Jan 23 '17
Comedy of Errors
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Jan 23 '17
I flipped a coin between these two teams for my 0-3 pickem. They truly didn't disappoint.
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u/NA_CS_LUL Jan 23 '17
https://i.imgur.com/Ftk5cs2.gif
Markeloff though.. So unfortunate he didn't have a kit.
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Jan 23 '17
He jumped over the defuse kit...
http://i.imgur.com/yoWASqM.png
https://clips.twitch.tv/eleaguetv/CuteWeaselPipeHype63
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u/DoubleOnegative de_mirage Jan 23 '17
He literally jumped over a kit when he jumped off the box on site, there was a kit on site
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u/AssimassI 5 years coin Jan 23 '17
when he dropped down from the wooden box he saw the kit right on the floor... didn't pick it up tho
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Jan 23 '17 edited Jan 23 '17
I'm pretty sure he walked right by one on catwalk, too. I would have loved to see this go into overtime.
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u/c_Lassy The MongolZ Jan 23 '17
Waylander lost that for them.
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Jan 23 '17
Whiff of the tournament so far
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Jan 23 '17
2 Whiffz of tournament. That one with AWP, and other in last round jumping in Monster...
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u/AemonDK Jan 23 '17
also the whiff in the pistol round where he saw hiko stationary for 5 seconds and couldn't even land a headshot
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Jan 23 '17
EliiGe is so much better than his peers it's actually absurd. NiKo situation almost.
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u/_Oomph_ 500k Celebration Jan 23 '17
Elige, Niko, ScreaM & RPK should form a team...
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u/redditmodsarefascist Team Liquid Fan Jan 24 '17
realistically speaking, how insane would an entry duo of elige and scream be? Scream is going to be left out of the French shuffle and is getting up there in his career. He needs to get on a team that can win now even if he has to play in NA. He can't afford to get stuck on another epsilonesque lineup made up of the French players who get left out of the real shuffle.
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u/qergttj Jan 23 '17
35 kills in regulation first game. 37 kills in regulation second game. Elige has been nuts
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u/HenryTPE Liquid Jan 23 '17
whifflander lul
If he hit that easy backstab shot the game would've been in Flipside's favor
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u/IamBrazilian_AMA 500k Celebration Jan 23 '17
I know it's not nice to point fingers but...
wayLander lost the game with that missed shot.
WTF WAS THAT LAST ROUND THO ?
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u/Ajp_iii Jan 23 '17
What was waylander doing go flank. Jumping in a corner does nothing
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u/srvc92 chroma Jan 23 '17
That last round wayLander "surfing" while his team mates trying to create chaos inside of B was really stupid aswell.
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u/sidipi Legendary Chicken Master Jan 23 '17
Last round, JDM picks off WorldEdit and his defuse kit falls right in front of Markeloff, but he jumps on site and doesn't pick it up!
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Jan 23 '17
Holy shit those last 2 clutches.
Markeloff must feel fucking crushed that he didn't get the defuse.
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u/iSluff Jan 23 '17
Statistics for Liquid in the last 3 months on LAN
In the last four LAN tournaments elige is the only one on liquid with a positive rating and it's over 1.2
legitimately a harder carry than niko
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u/SpeedyBlueDude NiP Jan 23 '17
EliGe is gonna retire young at this rate.
No person should ever struggle and be so stressed out with winning games when he's dropping almost 40 bombs.
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u/VINCE_C_ de_overpass Jan 23 '17
The man is a cool customer. He doesn't get stressed. He is a stone cold killa.
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Jan 23 '17
37 fucking kills wtf elige
Also, dont be a loser, buy a defuser.
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u/baeguel Liquid Jan 23 '17 edited Jan 23 '17
Elige with 85 kills in liquid's first 2 maps is unreal. Absolutely filthy carry.
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Jan 23 '17
Liquid needs to play a complete game and Nitro needs to step the fuck up. Lucky Markeloff fucked up at the end
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u/Skizm Complexity Jan 23 '17
I like that liquid lost the 2v2 earlier before the last round by wrapping through monster to short B, and then on the last round they go to do the exact same play and it looks like JDM realizes mid rotate and turns around.
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jan 23 '17
I saw that too. I was just yelling at the screen THAT SAME PLAY JUST FAILED ONE MINUTE AGO
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u/bio88 de_dust2 Jan 23 '17
I love me some Liquid, but they arent winning any majors like this. The buttclench was real...
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u/dannymalooly Liquid Jan 23 '17
Liquid wins through sheer luck at the end. Nitr0 is looking terrible -- especially on that 29th round entry.
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u/rustyjame5 1 Million Celebration Jan 23 '17
be liquid won both pistol and ensuing eco rounds.
be liquid get no map control play passive ct side. get destroyed.
be liquid get no map control play passive t side. get destroyed.
be liquid play with the clock, execute after 20 seconds remaining. but no plan.
be elige and don't go berserk after barely winning in this fashion. nerves of fucking steel this guy.
been a while. but na cs. elige needs better teammates.
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u/dinosaurxress Jan 23 '17
nitr0 is honestly like a walmart version of ELIGE. damn
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u/VINCE_C_ de_overpass Jan 23 '17
I don't think I can take many more of these games.
EliGE is the second coming of Jesus.
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u/Naxk Jan 23 '17
I don't know if I should laugh at the way Waylander threw the last round.
Glad I'm not a Flipsid3 fan.
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u/TheBCG616 Vitality Jan 23 '17
The guy JDM killed dropped a kit on bridge and markeloff jumped over it to get onto site...
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u/Kravvv Virtus.pro Jan 23 '17
if liquid keeps playing like this they will be out in no time, they got matched with one of the weakest teams in the major and still had to rely on elige going god mode.
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Jan 23 '17
What the actual fuck. This game shouldn't be that hard. I guess after yesterday a win is a win, but it's so hard to be a Liquid fan.
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u/Ajp_iii Jan 23 '17
It's insane like I don't know what liquid was thinking t side executing with 20 secs and no plan. They also won both pistols and had f3 have no money at all the whole ct side.
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u/SlyWolfz FaZe Jan 23 '17
What the actual fuck was waylander doing in that 3v2 last round...
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u/Komplex_ de_mirage Jan 23 '17
Elige playing out of his mind so far, hoping he can keep up this level of play for the entire tournament.
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u/dhhh Jan 23 '17
wayLander fucked up so hard by missing that awp shot from behind. And also last round, wtf was he doing?
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u/Ryu- Liquid Jan 23 '17
I don't know if anyone else saw how Liquid won that last round... but let's just say it was due to an "unforced error" on the part of a FS player
https://clips.twitch.tv/ryucs/MistyRavenTheTarFu
-Ryu
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u/XxShrimpTacoxX Jan 23 '17
This team would be so fucked without elige.
Nitr0 is fucking terrible
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u/OpinionatedRaptor Jan 23 '17
Liquid deserved to lose.
Markeloff :(
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u/BeepBep101 Liquid Jan 23 '17
Yeah. I love Liquid but they just can't play consistent. I don't think they'll make it past round 3.
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u/Knorikus Jan 23 '17
The UMP usage this game was disgusting. The gun needs a nerf badly
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u/Ajp_iii Jan 23 '17
Also ct money needs a rebalancing. There should be no way that f3 was that money screwed the whole half.
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u/xMrBoomBasticx 1 Million Celebration Jan 23 '17
My heart dropped when markeloff won the last 1v2. Glad we won though, GG to Flipside.
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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Jan 23 '17
I can't even imagine what F3 and especially Markeloff must feel after those big clutches in the last rounds. That must be soul crushing to lose in that fashion.
On the brights side, my 0-3 pick is still safe :)
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u/robotmemer Jan 23 '17
I very nearly switched my 0-3 pick from f3 to liquid. Whew. Yet another awesome map to watch only 1.5 days into this major. Love it.
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u/OnionandTuna Jan 23 '17
zews is literally going to go bald in a month watching liquid play
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u/equinox790 Jan 23 '17
Feel so bad for markeloff. In the last round, there was a kit on site, but nobody thought it was important to tell him theres a kit.
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u/Velocito Natus Vincere Jan 23 '17 edited Jan 23 '17
:( as much as I love cis team for my Slavic roots, FlipSid3 played it poorly, even if they won, it wouldn't be deserved.
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u/Dark_Azazel Jan 23 '17
Still wondering about that overpass pick but whatever I guess. I feel like TL could use a little change up.
Elige = Entry
Pimp = Second In/Support
Hiko = Support/Second In
JDM = AWP
nitr0 = Lurk
It's not a drastic change, I feel like this might fit them better. nitr0 has wanted to lurk. Pimp is a very good rifler. Hiko, if he is still the IGL, gets to be close to his mates when entering a site. This is just a little change that may or may not work.
Also, having nitr0 actually not be a bot could help as well.
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u/minotaurdadragonborn G2 Jan 23 '17
People say that Hiko is the issue... Dude still clutches while having to IGL and Support. Nitr0 is the real issue and always has been. Kid has been said to be one of the best in NAs but constantly under performs excluding one or two times on just Cache. Throw on top that Nitr0 wants to keep changing his role (IGL, Lurk, Entry, Rifle... like jesus)... Dropping Nitr0 for a better 5th, even an IGL, would do wonders. It'll never happen, more then likely Hiko will get kicked due to that Elige/Nitr0 combo... damn shame.
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u/Cryo_Ghost Renegades Jan 23 '17
Than you, Team Liquid, for keeping many people's 0-3 dreams alive.
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u/jpark170 chroma Jan 23 '17
Nitr0 needs to go...he might've been the better NA player once, but recently he's being nothing but a dead weight to TL.
Glad to see EliGE doing well as usual and JDM/Hiko picking up tho.
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u/Aimlocks PENTA Sports Fan Jan 23 '17
Has to be one of the most undeserved win of this major so far, 0 tactics on the gun round, this is why bo1 swiss is cancer, lose both pistols and you have almost no chance to win
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u/BeepBep101 Liquid Jan 23 '17
Liquid get your shit together. You only won this one because they missed the bomb defuse. I love liquid, but they SERIOUSLY need to start getting themselves together if they want ANY chance of moving on past round 3.
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u/XFragsHD de_inferno Jan 23 '17
Don't be a loser, buy a defuser :O
He had the money so yeah ... buying it in the last round could bring them into OT
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u/JJones1090 Jan 23 '17
The games at this major have been heart stoppers, and the ending of this game was certainly no different. Jesus Christ.
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Jan 23 '17
Team Liquid almost didn't deserve to win that one. Incredible how you can make that many mistakes and sloppy plays at a major
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Jan 23 '17
That was intense. I thought markeloff threw the last round as well but there were less than 10 seconds remaining so it was already gg
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u/ActuallyFromEarth Jan 23 '17
I feel like JDM missed so many opportunities to make an impactful frag because he didn't stay scoped in and posted up on some spot for just 1 more second. Case in point was the last round where after plant he was posted on Graffiti and then unscoped just when the CTs were pushing out from there. And then he dies at the end of Monster trying to jump away.
Idk if this is an issue of him panicking, not being able to trust him teammates to watch his flank, his timing just off, etc.
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u/Bad_Mojo_Jojo CS2 HYPE Jan 23 '17
Liquid need to start selling backpacks with Elige's face on it. The carry is real.
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u/tgsan Jan 23 '17
TL is so lucky EliGE is hard carrying once again, we'll see if this turns into NY 2.0.
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Jan 23 '17
I am so glad Liquid won. Nitr0 was playing horribly and Jdm was losing control of his nerves towards the end there.
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u/UnBiasedISwear Vitality Jan 23 '17
Elige the backpack. Jesus Christ yesterday he went huge on cache and here he's hitting an elite level of play.
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u/LordOfCinderGwyn Natus Vincere Jan 23 '17
It's not that Nitr0 is shit because he's clearly not, but my God I'm waiting for it to get better because his performance has been just... Sad.
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jan 23 '17
Love the troll WayLander and nitr0 votes for MVP (unless they mean for other team)
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u/spali Liquid Jan 23 '17
I was really disappointed in the streams quality. Frequently Missing kills and even connection drops. Not to mention the running ads in the middle of the action 3 different times once with two back to back. Just a very frustrating experience.
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Jan 23 '17
If I was Zews I would be fucking pissed at these performances. They need to be better than this.
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u/Spethro G2 Jan 23 '17
Elige has dropped 72 kills in 2 matches in just regulation alone. Yet liquid is 1-1 and barely won against F3. Somebody else on Liquid needs to step up, Elige is basically the only reason they even have a pulse in this tournament.
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u/Corsques G2 Jan 23 '17
I knew Elige was going to be good, but this is another level. I can't see how they can lose with him dominating like this, but we all saw the nV game.
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u/mochatsubo Jan 23 '17
For some reason I feel that TL will get stronger as the tournament continues. They are playing below their potential and if nitr0 returns to form, they might get out of groups.
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u/i_wave_to_koalas NiP Jan 23 '17
It shouldn't be this hard winning games for liquid with elige playing at this level. 37 kills today and 48 yesterday like wtf?