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Discussion | eSports GODSENT vs Team EnVyUs / ELEAGUE Major 2017 - Round 3 / Post-Match Discussion

GODSENT 0-1 Team EnVyUs

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Who was the MVP for this map? (POLL)


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u/agggile Virtus.pro Jan 24 '17 edited Jan 24 '17

this is one of those games that work as a good example of how poor economy management can fuck up the entire game

105

u/Ajp_iii Jan 24 '17

People who still think Pronax is good are insane. How do you not get awps and mollys on cache

4

u/Lydanian Jan 25 '17

I'm not hating on Pronax. The guy was a fantastic piece of the old Fnatic puzzle in order for then to be successful.

Having said that, of all the IGLs around today, he is definitely one that has been inflated by his team mates. And with the current roster it really shows.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

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u/DogeFancy cs_militia Jan 24 '17

Or the meta was different when he was calling. It's easier for him to set the meta than adapt to it, and you do that when you're on top.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17 edited Jan 24 '17

Chill out there buddy Pronax isnt very good any more but during Fnatic dominance he most definitely had great executes and great calls. I think this team of players don't gel well together. They lack aggressive entry fragger type players.

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u/equinox790 Jan 24 '17

not really, if you go back and see the old matches, you could see the insane executes and fakes their t side had. But I think it was mentioned few weeks ago that the godsent team might have lost confidence in pronax and not listening to his calls? Like in todays game the casters were going on and on about how the whole team ecoed and znaijder bought kevlar. Maybe there are more instances and we dont notice.

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u/ricoon NiP Jan 24 '17

Honestly so unnecessary to start discrediting players and IGLs previous achievements because they are in another situation now than before. If you listen to Fnatic games from before with subtitles it's evident that at least then Pronax' calls were solid.

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u/kernevez Jan 24 '17

I don't think Pronax's calls this game were bad either, they had a lot of super close rounds with a bad economy.

It's not like Fnatic era Pronax had to manage the economy carefully when they would just win the eco round anyway half of the time making it very worth it

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u/aworldoftwo Jan 25 '17

"The good does not erase the bad, nor the bad the good"

  • Stannis

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u/Ajp_iii Jan 24 '17

Well the meta also evolved a lot since then and he just looks lost at high level play.

1

u/dead-dove-do-not-eat Jan 24 '17

Devilwalk was insane? schneider was insane?

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u/infecthead Renegades Jan 25 '17

every pro that played at that time agrees that pronax was without a doubt the best IGL during that period. his reads on enemy teams was almost psychic, and he utilized his teammates to perfection.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Somebody needs to hit pronax with an ECO100 course

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u/GivePLZ-DoritosChip MIBR Jan 24 '17

A.K.A the Tyloo effect.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

What the fuck just happened

84

u/Acech guardian2 Jan 24 '17

Vintage Godsent.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

I am bewildered and amazed at the same time. I think we need to study this one game to extract as much scientific data possible, to further expand research on chokes and stomps.

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u/qawertfg G2 Jan 24 '17

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u/jdong4321 Jan 24 '17

hey at least he got the map right

7

u/KevinSlice G2 Jan 25 '17

And the ''destroying'' and ''winning quite easily'', for Envy!

27

u/mintz41 Jan 24 '17

I'm all one for confidence in your own abilities but pronax is not in a position to call out any player on any team as an easy kill. Glad they got humiliated.

5

u/MtBeeee Jan 25 '17

I don't think banter like this should be taken seriously whatsoever, this is obviously all meant in good fun

8

u/kernevez Jan 24 '17

Indeed, same thing for Fnatic losing to G2 after calling it a 2 man team then getting RPK'd.

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u/lnxx 500k Celebration Jan 25 '17

This is gold.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

fak

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u/EvertGr Jan 24 '17

From dominant as hell to getting shit on by Envy.

What a rollercoaster of emotions...

36

u/xVale de_train Jan 24 '17

Godsent in a nutshell

45

u/Nisheee NiP Jan 24 '17

Envy as well, two stupidly inconsistent teams

25

u/iSwedishVirus Jan 24 '17

Envy as well, two dead teams

FIFY

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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jan 24 '17

FTFY

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

FIFY

FTFY

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Homesent

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u/EvertGr Jan 24 '17

Not yet, but tomorrow :>

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u/DanGoesOnline cs_italy Jan 24 '17

what is upsetting to me, i had astralis 3:0, and godsent 0:3. god dammn it.

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u/EvertGr Jan 24 '17

LMAO, you got trolled by Godsent

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u/throwaway9901234 G2 Jan 24 '17

NATURAL BORN KILLAAAAAAAA

And Sadokist is such a big kennyS fanboy lmao

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u/viktorlogi Jan 25 '17

Everyone should be a KennyS fanboy.

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u/s4Nn1Ng0r0shi fnatic Jan 24 '17

Yeah KennyS kills get so much more praise and I think he even has a different tone in his voice xD

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u/IuriAmauri FURIA Jan 24 '17

FreeFlusha

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u/XTheDelta Natus Vincere Jan 24 '17

God sent the wrong team WOOOO

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u/IuriAmauri FURIA Jan 24 '17

WADAP NOW SWEDES WOOOOOOOOO

7

u/Tankk1n Godsent Jan 24 '17

Woooooooooooooooooooo

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u/metallicalova Godsent Jan 25 '17

woooooo

12

u/ConnorK5 Jan 24 '17

No. Now see you are a godsent fan you can't say that. Only non swedes.

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u/MutantMeerkat Jan 24 '17

WADAP NOW SWEDES WOOOOOOOOO

7

u/IuriAmauri FURIA Jan 24 '17

but i'm not swedish :(

4

u/hungrymutherfucker NiP Jan 24 '17 edited Jan 24 '17

Didn't friberg say that

EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaxaZt2WeQ0

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u/Violent_Bounce Astralis Jan 24 '17

I'm pretty sure it started here https://youtu.be/TXh1sKkcYb8

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u/adamreddy NiP Jan 24 '17

He said it against Fnatic

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u/DeClann CS2 HYPE Jan 24 '17

A difficult match to watch :(

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u/DerDreckigeDan Jan 24 '17

seeing JW cry broke my heart

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Whoa, I close the stream immediately after they lost. When did that happen?

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u/DerDreckigeDan Jan 24 '17

during the analysis after the game, a clip is on the front page I think rn

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

who replaced pronax with semphis?

shitty forcebuys all game

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u/Siemperx Jan 24 '17

https://i.gyazo.com/3ccd1b12dd4f56f74810ad4ec1f80679.png

seriously what the fuck are they even doing

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u/Hrothgar2 Jan 24 '17

Actually this forcebuy was second round and it almost worked

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u/smugcatgo Jan 24 '17

It was the 6th round and it wasn't particularly close to working: clip

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u/Hrothgar2 Jan 24 '17 edited Jan 24 '17

Ok they did it twice my bad. At the second round it went pretty ok

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u/Dynamitjanne Jan 24 '17

But why give znsjder the ak??

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u/acey901234 Cloud9 Jan 24 '17 edited Jan 24 '17

This was taken before they gave an armored player an AK.

EDIT: Turns out I was wrong and didn't even notice watching it live. This whole match was a train wreck and their economical decisions actually closely resemble the iBP v. Net code throw game.

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u/smugcatgo Jan 24 '17

Wrong, znajder keeps the AK until he dies.

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u/Hrothgar2 Jan 24 '17

Pronax and JW aren't better and Lekro is a beast with the Deagle

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u/Dynamitjanne Jan 24 '17

I'd say jw is a lot better and flusha is tons better

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u/Yekab0f Jan 24 '17

Lol AK no armour

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u/dolphin37 MIBR Jan 24 '17

p250 head armour!

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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jan 24 '17

This was before dropping AK

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u/smugcatgo Jan 24 '17

Why does everyone think this? At no point in this round does he drop the AK, unless you count him dying.

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u/MutantMeerkat Jan 24 '17

he dropped ak to armored player

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u/MutantMeerkat Jan 24 '17

you took screenshot before ak was dropped to armored player. The strat almost worked.

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u/smugcatgo Jan 24 '17

Why does everyone think this? At no point in this round does he drop the AK.

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u/MutantMeerkat Jan 24 '17

ah, different round my bad. Didn't realize.

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u/flick3d Jan 24 '17

The moral of almost every GS game:

Flusha deserves better.

=(

8

u/xxartarxx Jan 24 '17

in France, baguettes are made every morning. You can break it today, it'll be here tomorrow

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u/I1ussion Liquid Jan 24 '17

Happy just smiled after the end. What is happening?

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u/Hrothgar2 Jan 24 '17

Someone highlight it please

6

u/KraKen456 Vitality Jan 24 '17

Seeing JW crying is hard...:(
I was an hater of the legendary fnatic, but goddamn I want them back...

1

u/XTheDelta Natus Vincere Jan 24 '17

Broke my heart man.

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u/CorporalClegg25 Jan 24 '17

I don't even play this game, and I was just browsing twitch when I saw this match. It looked like GODSENT got destroyed. Are most matches like this? It looked pretty awesome!

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u/themadscientistwho Jan 24 '17

Most matches are closer then this one. This match was a huge blowout, which are relatively rare at this level of play (this game is from the major tournament series with few bad teams).

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Wait? What happened? I sneezed and the game was over.

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u/YetiEric CS2 HYPE Jan 24 '17

MDR

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

baguettes > köttbullar

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u/jNEK1 Jan 24 '17

GODSENT have such a horrible map pool. Only map they can play is Train.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Just pick Mirage on GODSENT and you have an ez win

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u/dob_bobbs CS2 HYPE Jan 24 '17

Well, or Cache, apparently.

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u/Acech guardian2 Jan 24 '17

Glasscanon AK. You barely even see that in Silver MM.

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u/Deluxe-M- Jan 24 '17

I want to fucking neck myself, why did they hype me all up after that major qual man fUCK

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u/DeltaCrops 750k Celebration Jan 24 '17

RIP Godsent, shuffle time.

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u/neptunusequester Jan 24 '17

This is what happens when kennyS is on fire ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

This is what happens when Envy is on fire ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Ftfy

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u/neptunusequester Jan 24 '17

This is what happens when GODSENT is dogshit ¯_(ツ)_/¯

FTFY

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u/ajwhite98 Jan 24 '17

Why are you the way that you are.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Here, you dropped this:

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17 edited Jan 24 '17

Danke

¯_(ツ)_/¯\

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u/acoluahuacatl Jan 24 '17

¯_(ツ)_/¯

FTFY

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u/AssassinSNiper Team Spirit Jan 24 '17

fuck yes kennys

5

u/Dcoyxy9 Jan 24 '17

Let's go bois! Seeing this nV when everyone shows up always feels good.

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u/APlainAverageGuy Jan 24 '17

Let's go nV! Glad to see everyone in the shit!

5

u/SaxxyTF G2 Jan 24 '17

I haven't felt this in a long time....

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

I understand.. Being an Envy fan is hard

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u/Tixicot G2 Jan 24 '17

Close match, I must say.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

I love seeing these performances from KennyS. Screw all you non-believers who said he was out of his prime.

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u/Beastboy000 guardian_elite Jan 24 '17

yikes godsent

2

u/exec774 MOUZ Jan 24 '17

run flusha! run while you can!

2

u/ConnorK5 Jan 24 '17

Where were you when EnVy was not kill and proved everyone wrong.

2

u/Knorikus Jan 24 '17

I've been telling people EnVy was going to surprise. This team will hold the seed for the french super team if they make legends. A lot to play for.

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u/SentineI Godsent Jan 24 '17

Go from shitting on Astralis to losing to Gambit and EnVy.

Maybe pronax's new strat is that the team should all forget the economy aspect of the game? Silver meta >>>

2

u/iSwedishVirus Jan 24 '17

Well that was fun..i guess?

2

u/30fps_is_cinematic FaZe Jan 24 '17

Watching Godsent force buy every round is the hardest thing to do. I've seen silvers in MM with better economy management

2

u/memorate Jan 24 '17

Another step closer for JW and flusha to NiP? pls?

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u/hungrymutherfucker NiP Jan 24 '17

Am I the only one who wants nip to keep friberg?

1

u/memorate Jan 24 '17

I love friberg and I think he has been playing very well lately, but I think it would be very interesting with flusha on the team togheter with the explosiveness of JW

2

u/Wang-_- Jan 24 '17

Happy returning to form this game and the last one. If nV keep this up they could be dangerous in this major.

1

u/Asaree8 Jan 24 '17

True, finally could see happy who takes part in action and not waiting for exit kills

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u/Wang-_- Jan 24 '17

I mean, he is a two time major winner - he has what it takes

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u/Asaree8 Jan 24 '17

Well in that case i can say pronax is 2-3 times major winner and what?

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u/grurlock Jan 24 '17

rip teams figured out vetoing train means free win

2

u/EzSp Vitality Jan 24 '17

WADAP NOW SWEDES WOOOOO

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

I saw Happy smile. That's how you know things are going well :)

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

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u/Ajp_iii Jan 24 '17

godsent not on train LUL

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u/Mubeenc Jan 24 '17

Even henry and sado couldn't hype this game.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

No vaseline.

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u/Sentry_Down G2 Jan 24 '17

InconsiSENT once again... Stomping Astralis, not showing up against Gambit and EnvyUs. That was actually not even that well played from nV which worries me a bit for the rest of the competition.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Something weird has been going on with NBK lately. Anyone notice these weird jumps right when he aims at the enemy? What do you guys think is happening? https://clips.twitch.tv/eleaguetv/VictoriousHorseSSSsss https://clips.twitch.tv/eleaguetv/PleasantGazellePuppeyFace

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u/PenguinKun Astralis Jan 24 '17

They got destroyed. Like, de_stroyed.

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u/Willydangles Jan 24 '17

KennySlays

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u/LeagueOfLucian NiP Jan 24 '17

What were those forcebuys like come on..

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u/t33g33 phoenix Jan 24 '17

they GODSENTback I'd say

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u/deniz619 BIG Jan 24 '17

from smashing astralis 16-6 to losing 3-16 against envyus. what a fall

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u/diddyxd FaZe Jan 24 '17

It seems like Godsent didn't practice at all before the major... At least in the last 2 games

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u/trickz-M- Jan 24 '17

Can their name be more ironic, I swear.

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u/memorate Jan 24 '17

I think Godsent is still trying to figure out this new thing called teamwork. Such a strange concept, I know.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Flusha did everything he could again, and still they lost.

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u/sniper6336 Jan 24 '17

big thanks to our boys in blue

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u/schoki560 King NiKo Jan 24 '17

My MGE games hahe better economy management than godsent..

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u/KPC51 guardian2 Jan 24 '17

NEVER BET ON GODSENT GAMES.

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u/mmmmmBetty Virtus.pro Jan 24 '17

Homesent

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u/IdefendTheWeak Jan 24 '17

Kenny is back!

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u/Ontyyyy CS2 HYPE Jan 24 '17

Did not see that coming.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

This was 25% godsent playing badly, 75% Envy all contributing and playing like their old selves.

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u/fansgesucht Jan 24 '17

Can't win when kenny wears his lucky PSG joggers.

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u/s4Nn1Ng0r0shi fnatic Jan 24 '17

Why did they ban cobble instead of cache -_-. Cache is such an aim heavy map, and Godsent is very descent on Cobble.

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u/charlescarmichael4 Godsent Jan 24 '17

godsent is shit on cobble and its one of the best map of envy

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u/V1ENS Jan 24 '17

What a disappointment...

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u/theEmoPenguin Natus Vincere Jan 24 '17

pronax and sneijder duo doin some work!

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u/Komplex_ de_mirage Jan 24 '17

Incredibly sloppy play from Godsent, after their showing against Astralis I thought they might have improved but I was wrong.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Pronax didnt see how easily early on that Envy gave up Mid. Should of been abused much more.

Overall that was an ass whoopin.

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u/Aurum_MrBangs Jan 24 '17

Toss coin: Heads:Godsent Tail: Homesent

Except it's rigged like two face from batman and we all know it homesent

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u/YetiEric CS2 HYPE Jan 24 '17

Every round from GODSENT perspective was a clusterfuck.
Everyone kept run and gunning, it was 1v1 and 2v2 situation after 20 seconds each round.
What was that about ? A Massive throw ?

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u/mokuhazushi Jan 24 '17

Well, now that they're 1-2, they'll get easy opponents for their last two games. #GODSTRATS #GODPRONAX #MINDGAMES

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u/tarangk clutch Jan 24 '17

i missed both previous games of godsent due to time difference how the hell did they manage to stomp astralis on train and then get beat by easily by gambit and nV

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u/kramatic Jan 24 '17

God sent Kenny to teach JW how to awp

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u/zEPHAAA Virtus.pro Jan 24 '17

Watch them win tomorrow. It'll probably happen :P

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

happy was a beast this game

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u/full-of-lead Godsent Jan 24 '17

I admit I'm tilted. Homesent incoming! :D

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u/jospence Godsent Jan 25 '17

|/_

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u/jabiz510 2 Million Celebration Jan 24 '17

Thats some vintage NV, forcebuying to oblivion..

Godbless Godsent.

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u/Drahok Legendary Flair Master Jan 24 '17

So Godsent really is just ist a one-train-wonder

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u/calebci G2 Jan 24 '17

Damn envy

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u/Bearly_funny BIG Jan 24 '17

Do GODSENT have an IGL? Like where are the set executes, where's the coordination? 16-3 against NV... C'mon, even F3 would do better.

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u/Lefo7 Liquid Jan 24 '17

I swear Envy can 16-0 a team and Sixer will still be struggling

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u/readyaimfire_exe Virtus.pro Jan 24 '17

I'm really beginning to regret not having EnvyUs and Gambit to get out the groups (;_;)

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u/C9_Lemonparty Jan 24 '17

Drop out of WESG to focus on major Get smashed in major anyway

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '17

Am i the only one that didnt care about JW crying? I mean sorry but Flusha and especially JW have such a big ego when they win and start tweeting and saying mean things but when he loses he starts crying? Godsent tweeted such an EZ game beating Astralis cant wait for tommorow after the firsy day, and they lost to Gambit.

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u/LordNelson27 Parivision Jan 25 '17

Was this payback for the astralis vs godsent match?

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u/Rektalalchemist BIG Fan Jan 24 '17

Homsent so good Kreygasm

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u/ctran2131 Liquid Jan 24 '17

E Z P Z

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u/pufferfish3 Jan 24 '17

Pls disband godsent

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u/thekmanpwnudwn 500k Celebration Jan 24 '17

Insane difference between GODSENT on day 1 and day 3

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Insane difference between GODSENT on train and any other map

FTFY

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u/gutster_95 Jan 24 '17

I guess we can say the godsent Experiment failed. Can we get old fnatic back?

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u/FloydRix Jan 24 '17

Znajders only on the team because he knew the fnatic boys before the split, such a pain when this happens to teams.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

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u/QuantumWaffles1 500k Celebration Jan 24 '17

it's the splyce strat

"How am I supposed to know what they're doing if they don't know what they're doing?" -Dazed

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u/Xepez09 Vitality Jan 24 '17

"They will never expect me to kill myself with my own molly" -Summit

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u/DerDreckigeDan Jan 24 '17

Seriously, they either ran into a stack or into the scope of kenny, so frustrating to watch

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u/Hrothgar2 Jan 24 '17

It's been a while since I saw Envy this good and coordinate as CT. It was as if they could read in Pronax book

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u/MutantMeerkat Jan 24 '17

they got outplayed by envy so bad. Envyus majorly counter stratted Godsent's A site takes

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u/retardforreal Jan 24 '17

You dont understand because you have no idea of planned ct aggression.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

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u/BuckNekkid18 Jan 24 '17

They're definitely not winning the major. They'd be lucky to get out of group stage.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

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u/charlescarmichael4 Godsent Jan 24 '17

hahahahahaha.always ban train against godsent

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17 edited Jan 24 '17

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u/PixAlan Jan 24 '17

GODSENT ERA

the what

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '17

Ah. These types of posts are back.

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u/Nisheee NiP Jan 24 '17

these posts back, nevermore back, krimz 4k-s back, what's this, late 2015 and early 2016?

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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Jan 24 '17

TEAM YOUPORN TO PICK UP THE FNATIC ROSTER

what

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