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Discussion | eSports FaZe Clan vs. Team EnVyUs / ELEAGUE Major 2017 Round 5 / Post-Match Discussion
FaZe Clan 1-0 Team EnVyUs
Nuke: 16-11
Congratulations to FaZe Clan on advancing to the playoffs!
Team EnVyUs have been eliminated.
Who was the MVP for this series? (POLL)
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MAP 1: Nuke
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| FAZE | 9 | 7 | 16 |
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| NV | 6 | 5 | 11 |
| FAZE | K | A | D |
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| allu | 30 | 2 | 15 |
| aizy | 19 | 2 | 16 |
| karrigan | 20 | 1 | 16 |
| kioShiMa | 16 | 7 | 17 |
| rain | 18 | 6 | 16 |
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| apEX | 12 | 6 | 24 |
| Happy | 17 | 1 | 20 |
| kennyS | 28 | 0 | 15 |
| NBK- | 14 | 5 | 22 |
| SIXER | 9 | 10 | 23 |
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u/The__Danger__ King NiKo Jan 26 '17
Kio is now the only french player in the playoffs!
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u/neptunusequester Jan 26 '17
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u/v_cubed 5 years coin Jan 26 '17
TBH im glad Faze and Kio got to beat envy i was sad when he was removed
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u/Kuruma-Hunter BIG Jan 26 '17
The after game interview though. There are some batshit crazy memelords in the eleague production team.
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u/Hyphxn Jan 26 '17
Holy shit allu quietly snuck up to 30 frags, what the hell?
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u/Jamesbeach1 The MongolZ Jan 26 '17
I honestly didn't even notice until they showed the player comparison on stream.
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Jan 26 '17
Am I the only one who thinks allu is overrated?
is it me or is allu a bit of a boring player
like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow allu has 32 kills" but u can never remember them.
can u remember a single allu kill ?
but try guardian...u can see the flick i remember a guardian flick.
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Jan 26 '17
A strong player and a playmaker are two separate shoes. You dont have to do flashy kills, sick clutches or multiple spraydowns. He is a quite player with great skill and is solid. It is essential for every team to have a player like this. Also allu showed that he has clutch potential and he can be a playmaker. Coldzera is most of the games, also just very solid. And he steps up in a few rounds and goes huge, thats why you remember him more.
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u/Mikaleide Jan 26 '17
Karrigan is just the polar opposite of MSL and Pronax. Really showing the impact an IGL that can frag has. Zeus is another great example.
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u/AdamDaKing Liquid Jan 26 '17
gla1ve is an even better example
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u/kingtut11 Liquid Jan 26 '17
fallen and stanislaw are a few others who are clearly capable fraggers
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u/DunkDaily Liquid Jan 26 '17
Stan is very hit or miss. I wouldn't say he's a consistent fragger, but he also doesn't bottom out super hard like Pronax or MSL
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u/Charmaaander Jan 26 '17
Karrigan hadn't been fragging like this for a long time now, it's nice to see him in form
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Jan 26 '17
He said in a interview that Astralis didn't have confidence in him anymore. His mindset was probably really bad, this change of air really brought the best in him. I'm happy for the guy.
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u/roeder Jan 26 '17
Yeah, indeed. Karrigan is a great IGL, but the way he wanted to lead didn't seem to go hand-in-hand with Astralis.
And now look at Faze. I'd say Karrigan was the missing piece for them.
They have the talent and experience, and I won't be surprised if 2017 is their year.
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u/gyang333 FaZe Jan 26 '17
Yeah on Overpass when Karrigan went ham with the awp for a couple rounds, really kept Faze in it. Zeus has been the same too.
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u/muffinmonk Liquid Jan 26 '17
noob here, what's an IGL?
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u/catfishburglar Virtus.pro Jan 26 '17
As /u/mikaleide said, they call the strats. This added pressure leads to them often having less kills. The OP of this chain was commenting on how well Karrigan (and the others listed) was able to frag (get kills) despite his role in comparison to a few that did poorly such as MSL and Pronax who both struggled to get kills while leading throughout their games.
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u/chaRxoxo FaZe Jan 26 '17
It has a lot to do with styles though. One isn't better than the other, just different
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u/pantslessmaniac Jan 26 '17
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u/Jaggerjack3d Jan 26 '17
found it quite funny when happy posted it. Guess thats why happy didn't want to kick him, he saw that their problems wouldn't be fixed by replacing a player.
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u/ReY4Ever Gambit Jan 26 '17
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u/maximalGames FaZe Jan 26 '17
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u/Marcuskac guardian Jan 26 '17
Lol, what is he reacting to
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u/maximalGames FaZe Jan 26 '17 edited Jan 26 '17
when neo killed him with a scout headshot wallbang on nuke
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u/Georg_Schmo FaZe Jan 26 '17
Schrödinger's Kio: is he the problem of EnVyUs or the solution for FaZe
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u/archer-sc guardian Jan 26 '17
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Jan 26 '17
So fucking sad seeing him try his hardest and be let down. Not saying he played perfect but god damn
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u/archer-sc guardian Jan 26 '17
definitely. i dont even like envyus, but you can't help but feel bad for him
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u/Inquizitory 500k Celebration Jan 26 '17
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u/Ocyuu howl Jan 26 '17
You gotta feel bad for Kenny, dude is such an emotional guy and him being knocked out in groups just hurts....
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u/Pat2424 Jan 26 '17
That one fucking 5-7 round cost them the entire game
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u/Fir3yfly Jan 26 '17
No, it didn't.
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u/therealjiho Jan 26 '17
If they won that round FaZe would have been on another Eco and envy would have won at least two more rounds, tying up or even getting a lead
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u/boineg Jan 26 '17
kioshima kicking his old team's ass. feelsgoodman
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u/HessuCS de_cache Jan 26 '17
I felt so damn happy for him. Of course was happy to see Faze win but it to be like this... Beautiful.
Got nothing against EnvyUs though and felt bad especially for KennyS, but damn. Was fun to watch this
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u/antelope591 Jan 26 '17
pretty much every player left out of the shuffle played like complete shit this tourney...almost like setting up something like that right before a huge major isn't the best idea -_-
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u/SpeedyBlueDude NiP Jan 26 '17
Kio just fucked the entire French scene.
Have fun at the qualifiers!
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u/Cheesewithmold 1 Million Celebration Jan 26 '17
I feel so bad for Kenny, but at the same time I'm really happy seeing how well Karrigan is doing and how much he's improved the team :)
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u/xVale de_train Jan 26 '17
Yesss two of my favorite teams made it! Karrigan made my boys legends, even though FaZe was looking a bit shaky, they still managed to pull it through. Kio must have the most gangster feeling ever handshaking the NV members after beating them.
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u/bcawesome Liquid Jan 26 '17
Kenny and apex had strong games but karrigan became unstoppable strat calling and fragging. If that save round never happened NV had a chance tho
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Jan 26 '17
Literally every game I was able to watch we lost harrowingly, and then to make things worse, I miss my boy allu's 30 bomb. FeelsBadMan.
Well at least FaZe is through, but I doubt the games will be viewable in EU time anyway.
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Jan 26 '17
Only one thing i can say. GOD ALLU. He clutched so many rounds against gambit aswell. And totally dominating envy.
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u/GivePLZ-DoritosChip MIBR Jan 26 '17
This the draw from Kioshima's point of view when he drew his past baguettes.
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Jan 26 '17
i was hoping for a "don't give a fuck, last tourney" from both nv and G2, hoping at least one would make semis+ like so often we've seen. man it sucks both just fall flat, but im excited for the shuffle now. French cs needs to come back strong
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u/Lunnes 500k Celebration Jan 26 '17
First G2 now nV, sad times for frenchmen
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u/Gaouchos Match Thread Team Jan 26 '17
nV didn't care much about winning the tournament. I don't think they would've made it to the finals anyway. They're just looking forward to the shuffle now, and didn't need the money after their win in China
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u/niNja_ma MOUZ Jan 26 '17
HELL YEA KIOSHIMA! KARRIGAN!
sad about kennyS, he tried everything he could, but holy shit that new french line up with kennyS and shox? going to be terrifying...
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u/Arkani Natus Vincere Jan 26 '17
Am I the only one who wanted G2 and Envy eliminated in the groupstage? I mean it's absolutely unfair plan a roster change before major to the players who get left out. I don't care if shox or kenny played their hearts out, if they collaborated together to make new french lineup let them prove themselves in next qualifiers.
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u/bullexcrements 5 years coin Jan 26 '17
Envy kicks kioshima out of the roster
Kioshima kicks Envy out of the major
Karma dude :P
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u/Ajp_iii Jan 26 '17
feel bad for kenny. but he will be with shox next week anyway
Also it annoys me to see happy baiting on even force buy rounds. You need to swarm on force buy rounds not be doing nothing when everyone else is fighting.
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u/MikeAU 1 Million Celebration Jan 26 '17
That one pistol round from Faze just destroyed NV, sad to see Kenny lose like that, he was doing so well
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u/otsugua Jan 26 '17
the only time Happy is the first entering somewhere is when they have to shake hands after the game
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u/ericmok100 chroma Jan 26 '17
I'm not worry KennyS lost, I'm more worry of his reaction when he win a major.
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u/JasetheCanuck Jan 26 '17
How nV managed to lose a full buy round when FaZe rushed with armour and five sevens, I will never know
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u/Zer0MM Jan 26 '17
Considering they lost both pistols and lost the random pistol rush round, I feel like envy deserved more
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u/Thaloneblarg Jan 26 '17
Nice try nV but faze was the better team i will take the faded flair proudly because they got out trying at least.
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u/fakhar362 Jan 26 '17
Fucking sixer, asleep the whole match
Any confirmation on who exactly will be replaced in the shuffle? Happy and Sixer only?
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u/STr355 Jan 26 '17
This major has been full of shockingly bad anti-eco/forces. What is even going through Happy's head when calling such aggressive positioning vs pistols in such an important round
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u/Zer0MM Jan 26 '17
And has there been a game today in which one team didn't win both pistol rounds? Those are always so random and they're having a huge impact in these crucial BO1s.
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u/Werewolf_Fredy Jan 26 '17
FEELS bad as an envy fan. But Faze deserves it. They played like a top 8 team throughout the tournament.
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u/tethics Virtus.pro Jan 26 '17
I dont have anything against this guy but seriously KICK SIXER! this guy cant even play in a T3 team he is soooooooooo fkin bad
average aim, average gamesense, 0 sacrifice for the team. envy played 4v5 in all their matches and in T-side it was 3v5 because happy is playing lurk 24/7
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u/alecraines Jan 26 '17
One thing we can all agree on is that the post game interview was hillarious
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u/xtrmx de_inferno Jan 26 '17
It's not a major disaster for all the Frenchies to lose legendary status when there's a big shuffle coming up, not being tied to any 3-player requirement makes them absolutely free to build the teams they want to.
Imagine them both attaining legendary status, other than the rumoured French superteam with Smithz as coach, the other leftover players would've been more or less required to stay together for their own legend spot (e.g. scream/rpk/happy being tied to each other, even incase they wouldn't like playing together).
For example, my dream of a big Swedish shuffle and getting my dreamteam of dennis, olof, getright, forest , flusha is dead right now because there will always be 3 fnatic players needed. (Not that Krimz instead of GTR would necessary mean a worse team, just pointing out that legendary status often stops building the team people actually want to make).
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u/KatiushK Natus Vincere Jan 26 '17
Finally, we can have a scary french team once more.
Super line-up gonna be sick if they can have a half decent mind behind the superhuman fraggers.
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u/calebci G2 Jan 26 '17
It just breaks my heart seeing kennyS so emotional when he loses. If it weren't for that I would blow it off my shoulder. EnVyUs tried their best and did decently well.
The French shuffle needs to speed up doing their thing.
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Jan 26 '17
Kioshima was even kind enough to bottom frag for his fellow Frenchmen. Sad, some of the last we'll see of this lineup...
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u/Davidtr45 Jan 26 '17
Fuck man, I feel like its to easy to predict if Nv are gonna win or lose the game within the first 5 rounds.
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Jan 26 '17
I'm actually glad none of the Frenchies made it to Legends spots. Gives them more incentive to have a reshuffle and make an actually solid team again.
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u/tarangk clutch Jan 26 '17
woudlve been nice had nV won woudlve helped them tremendously post shuffle
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u/Azashiro Jan 26 '17
Allu has been strugling pretty hard but holy shit, it's so nice to see him get it together in such a high pressure situation and carry Faze.
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u/Muse4Games FaZe Jan 26 '17
It was late and I fell asleep during North and Godsent, woke up and Kio was doing an interview with Smix. I thought I was dreaming but it was real! Now if only we can get to the semi's
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u/baladista_espectral Grayhound Jan 26 '17
OH THANK GOD when NV was mounting a comeback second half I was having kittens thank you GOD allu + Carrygan
Now that SK and FaZe have made the playoffs I can relax and watch them both bomb out in contentment! FaZe in semis is the dream though.
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u/pookachee Virtus.pro Jan 26 '17
I've been watching a lot more envy lately and I've noticed an ongoing problem. Why is Happy doing nothing at all on the other side of the map causing no impact on the round? I know he "lurks" but come on, you're not supposed to play extremely passive and wait for people to come to you like that. This always causes him to be the last person alive which I find rather hysterical. Plus, I've noticed he is never in a position to get a trade. A few times, I've seen him wait behind and let someone else enter like apex but, once apex gets killed, Happy doesn't do anything about it or is too late to get the trade. Just had to put this out here cuz it's been bugging me since the beginning of the major.
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u/IamBrazilian_AMA 500k Celebration Jan 26 '17
French shuffle can't come soon enough.