Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Episode 70 discussion

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Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season, episode 70

Alternative names: Attack on Titan Final Season, Shingeki no Kyojin Season 4

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Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score
60	Link	4.65	73	Link	4.67
61	Link	4.57	74	Link	-
62	Link	4.71
63	Link	4.77
64	Link	4.9
65	Link	4.73
66	Link	4.92
67	Link	4.81
68	Link	4.67
69	Link	4.53
70	Link	4.64
71	Link	4.52
72	Link	4.79

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[u/PhoenixFoxington]

Titans are temporary, Sasha's kindness is forever.

[u/michhoffman → u/PhoenixFoxington]

Isayama bringing up Sasha each week to torture us is forever too...it seems

[u/garmonthenightmare → u/PhoenixFoxington]

Sasha is getting so much love in these episodes. Making her death even more sad.

[u/thesagenibba → u/PhoenixFoxington]

I love how much her character influences the plot, even after death. This is a passing of the torch moment that we've been seeing lately. They seem to be setting up the new generation of fighters.

[u/PhoenixFoxington]

Kaya saying "I want to be more like her" + the ending music was such an awesome combo. They nailed the ending!

[u/axl625 → u/PhoenixFoxington]

Sasha's impact

[u/_dsmith23]

Season 3 Part 2 Final Episode(59)

Final Season Episode 70

[u/KrazyBean94]

Damn, I love Falco so much. If he wasn't there to keep Gabi in check she would've probably gone on a killing spree.

Also of course Floch is one of the first to rebel against the military. I'm very curious to see where his character goes.

[u/axl625 → u/KrazyBean94]

To say we love Falco is an understatement. He deserves the world

[u/AvnvPS]

Mikasa has her own Mikasa now

[u/lcantchange]

Eldians : breathe

Gabi : is this the work of the devils ?

[u/oB3NoT3Xo]

Watching Gabi try and justify what happened to Kaya's mom was so well done, showed just how deep the brainwashing goes in Marley.
Also beware of post credit scene, looks like shit is gonna go down.

[u/Garlicbread10 → u/oB3NoT3Xo]

Reiner must love the idea of the suicide mission

[u/Bring_Me_The_Night → u/oB3NoT3Xo]

It was funny to see how Gabi's arguments were contradictory. She even contradicts herself when she refers to the sins of the past while telling to Falco, in episode 8, that she wasn't there to witness Paradis Island invasion by the Warriors and thus she wouldn't consider it.

[u/LonelyAsgardian]

Louise: omg Mikasa you saved me I’m forever indebted to you you’re my idol—

Mikasa: shut the fuck up, I have enough headaches to deal with already

[u/Yaggamy]

Sasha's horse taking revenge on Gabi is the subplot no one expected.

[u/Damarugaki → u/Yaggamy]

Jean finally getting back at her

[u/joe4553 → u/Yaggamy]

The potato devil still haunts the world even after death.

[u/eepicprimee]

Love how Kaya countered everything Gabi was trying to say. What a fantastic exchange between them.

That line about wanting to be like Sasha...

[u/FeelsGoodMan243 → u/eepicprimee]

Love the parallels between Gabi and the orphan. Both experienced terrible tragedy, and are trumatized. However, the orphan doesn't blame strangers unlike gabi. And it's quite ironic how she looks up to sasha, while her killer is right in front of her.

[u/Silent_Shadow05 → u/eepicprimee]

Gabi's illusions are breaking apart now.

The more she interacts with people the more she'll realize the reality of the situation and what Reiner TRULY felt when he talked about Paradis back in Marley.

[u/joe4553 → u/eepicprimee]

Every episode were getting reminded Sasha is dead.

[u/axl625 → u/eepicprimee]

Kaya really grew up fine. Braus family is the best

[u/Yaggamy]

Pieck: We have to go to Paradis Island.

Reiner: But I don't want to.

Pieck: It's a suicide mission.

Reiner: You son of a b*tch, I'm in!!

[u/viki-san → u/Yaggamy]

Lmao. It's really sad tho. But Lmao.

[u/XStormrider → u/Yaggamy]

“What are we, some kind of suicide squa-“

“Say no more, I’m in.” -Reiner probably

[u/Housenkai]

I love how everyone on the island identifies as Eldian now, even though they did not even have a concept of "country" 3 years ago. They must honestly still be a little confused about it, hence Floch speaking about the New Eldian Empire.

[u/NintendoMasterNo1]

It's really cool seeing all the young children affected by the titan attacks 4 years ago like the girl that looks up to Mikasa and the girl Sasha saved. Isayama really turns anyone into a relevant character doesn't he.

[u/PhoenixFoxington]

I feel it for Hange. I miss her as the fun and psychotic mad scientist. The leader role is killing her.

[u/SoulTea → u/PhoenixFoxington]

She was one of my favourite characters in early SnK because of how wacky and insane she was. I still love her but it hurts to see the pressure and responsibilities bearing down on her in Erwin's role as commander.

[u/Bulbasaur_is_bae]

Falco: 4 years ago when the walls were breached, a lot of them were killed... this is their revenge.

Gabi: But... did you see that happen?

Also Gabi: Eldians ruled and oppressed the world for thousands of years!

Kaya: Did... you see that happen?

[u/Yaggamy]

New character: *appears*

Gabi: Oh boy, here I go killing again..

[u/axl625 → u/Yaggamy]

Falco: Oh no you don't

[u/cppn02]

Lmao why did they have to make the animation so smooth when Gabi was bashing in that guard's head?

[u/M_Drekinn]

Seeing Gabi in constant denial to justify everything that fits her narrative is quite entertaining... Glad that this is finally animated

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

In case anyone didn't know, the full version of the OP came out a few days ago! So you can listen to that on loop while you wait for next week's episode.

I know that's what I'll be doing.

[u/gajaczek]

The entire prison was guarded by a single dude. Paradis confirmed Norway of AoT world.

[u/joe4553 → u/gajaczek]

Loose bricks are standard issue in Paradis prison cells. They even give you toothbrushes pre-sharpened as shanks too!

[u/Silent_Shadow05 → u/gajaczek]

RIP the prison guard. He was only there to check on Gabi.

[u/HyperSonic6325]

Can we talk about that lake where they stopped? That shit looked holy.

[u/PhoenixFoxington]

Gabi's whole worldview is inches away from cracking. Shes desperately trying to hold onto what little is left.

[u/alisonburgersm8]

Sasha saves a girl: Grows up to be the most kind-hearted person on Paradis

Mikasa saves a girl: Grows up to be a Survey Corp traitor

[u/Yuriy116 → u/alisonburgersm8]

"I want to be like you, Mikasa-san!"

"Is that why you commited treason?"

"Well... you guys did kinda overthrow the government, so..."

"Oh, just shut up."

[u/galileotheweirdo]

I realized that nobody has pointed out Pixis making a very important point:

10 months ago, Yelena was assigned a new guard - Floch - and they moved to live somewhere that happened to be closer to Eren’s house.

We also know Yelena may have been involved in orchestrating Historia’s pregnancy to protect Zeke.

Yelena secretly communicating with Eren, presumably through Floch, about a secret plan we don’t know... and 10 months later, Historia looks about 8 months pregnant?

They’re basically spelling it out for us.

[u/Yaggamy]

Falco: We need to lay low and wait for help. So would you please stop trying to kill people for 10 minutes?

Gabi: ....No!

[u/bluejaysart]

That conversation between Kaya and Gabi was really intense, it was refreshing to see Gabi struggle with her words. And there's even more impact in that exchange as it's between the girl who was saved by Sasha and the girl who killed Sasha.

Also, Falco is such a good soul. Bless him.

[u/discuss-not-concuss]

beliefs aren’t absolute. there’s always a bigger picture, there’s always another side to the story. Your ”reality” isn’t the truth

POP your Marley bubble or let the Devils pitchfork your bubble for you

[u/TomatoFork]

That scene of Gabi doing slapstick in the stables and Falco shouting her name with his arms spread was like straight out of an old comedy movie.

[u/Slifer13xx]

"Why did my mother have to die?"

"Because of what you did 1000 years ago"

"..!???????"

Honestly, amazing scene. Just amazing.

[u/[deleted]]

Hange: *sigh * Things were simpler when I could just “experiment” on Sonny and Bean...

[u/Sane-Ni-Wa-To-Ri]

End card for this episode!

(from official twitter)

MAPPA: Kaya

(from MAPPA twitter)

Team!

(from animator's twitter)

[u/Se7en_Sinner]

It's sad to see how completely brainwashed Gabi is. This episode was like watching a racist slowly reforming from their old ways.

Floch literally doing the "Eren did nothing wrong" meme.

Gabi and the horse reenacting Eren's acquisition of the Warhammer Titan.

I wish it was made more clear to Gabi that Sasha, the person she shot and killed, is the only reason she even has a chance at escape because Sasha is the one who saved Kaya from a titan when she was younger.

[u/xPr0DiGY_VII]

Always fascinates me how hard you can brainwash a human with propaganda. Really scary that such things are still a real thing in our world to this day.

[u/XStormrider]

Jean and Falco continue to be MVPs.

And Isayama doesn’t like wasting characters, no matter how minor. They die or will be actually reserved for a later date. The concept is brilliant in its simplicity and execution.

[u/viki-san]

Holy shit! I almost got weirded out by how bright this episode was compared to the dark gloomy tone we got in the previous episodes.

Nice to see Jean got revenge on Gabi lol.

And guys, make sure y'all watched the end credits.

[u/DadAsFuck]

shes fucking dead

[u/lethalmc]

In today’s episode of Horsin Around Gabi gets Political and Kaya and Falco are not having it

[u/HwangOfTheSon]

Louise: "I'm glad you saved me and I really look up to you and-"

Mikasa: "Shut up."

[u/Gravemind7]

“I want to be just like Sasha, my amazing older sister figure who saved me and gave me purpose in life, I love her so much and can’t wait to see her again.”

Gabi:....

[u/hollowXvictory]

Interesting bit with Hange and the civilians. When Historia first took over she promised to be different from the old administration by being clear and upfront with the citizenry. However now that things have gotten serious with the outside world that's no longer sustainable. Even the most well meaning governments will eventually slip into secrecy and tyranny given enough outside pressure.

[u/woancue]

Gabi was looking a lot like eren this episode!

But the scene with Falco and Gabi at the river was really great. Essentially, Gabi’s entire identity as an Eldian and warrior candidate was represented by that armband––a symbol of the oppression Eldians face throughout the world, and her hope for a better future where she would no longer need that armband. Or, a day when it would be a mark of pride.

That’s why Falco ripping it off repulsed her, as if all her effort to be a “good Eldian” and Warrior was reduced to nothing.

[u/DadAsFuck]

everybody gangsta till gabi whips the brick sack at ya

[u/Tux-]

They're really showing us just how insanely brainwashed everyone is - from Marleys to Eldians. How much of a brutal circle life is - with Marleys being discriminated in Paradis, with how Gabi is hating on Paradis people without any thinking. It's sad, that a whole nation is hated for crimes that they did not do. And I love how they tried to hammer into Gabi's head that current Paradisians did NOTHING and everything that happened to her home town was a retaliation. So now you have Gabi, who is being pretty much mind fucked over the whole situation. I bet the whole thing feels like the basement reveal to us.

A little civil war is brewing up in Paradis. Did the same thing happen in Marley a 100 years ago? It does seem that way, doesn't it? Titan supporters and nation supporters got into a skirmish, with titans supporters taking the highroad and leaving, same with Eren supporters taking jail time with pride. It makes sense too, doesn't it? The saying is "Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It.". But us, viewers, and paradis people have yet to learn what the TRUE history behind exile to Paradis island is.

One thing for certain, is that a new generation is now being brought up. With how Eren, Armin and Mikasa looked at survey corps when they were children, we see the same with the girl that Mikasa saved in season1. Great callback. With how Sasha saved the girl in Season2. Great callback. Everyone wants to be someone who's great and the role models can't be any better.

I love this show and I have no idea where this is headed. What's up with Mikasas sudden memory trigger? From what she remembered it seems like she's starting to remember only the violence that followed Eren, for some reason. I really hope we don't see Mikasa turn against Eren. It'd break my heart, as would hers, too.

[u/Yaggamy]

Gabi in ep 11: You should suffer for the sins your ancestors committed hundreds of years ago!

Also Gabi in ep 8: If you didn't see something happen, it didn't.

[u/[deleted]]

Children should not be blamed for the crimes of their parents.

[u/thesagenibba]

Who knew Floch would become a Yeager disciple.

[u/Mundology]

Look who ditched that dumb twirly haircut. He even supports Eren now. Yes, the same Floch who survived the great massacre of the survey corps and resesnted Eren and Mikasa for saving Armin rather than Erwin. Now that's some unexpected development.

[u/[deleted]]

They really rubbing it in every episode about Sasha, do they?

[u/FierceAlchemist]

Good thing Marley never thought about sending Gabi to go undercover in Paradis. She's about as subtle as a brick to the face.

Glad to see Gabi get confronted on her brainwashing and to see Kaya come back as a character. Also that short flashback of Pastor Nick Sannes with Hange was great. The complexities are really piling on now.

[u/silversherry]

Jesus, that Mikasa flashback of Eren killing her kidnappers was brutal and legit terrifying

[u/LucasEndless]

Galliard: “To think we fought side-by-side with a traitor this whole time”

Cuts to Reiner

[u/Rusik_94]

Why is every episode like 10 minutes long???

[u/GGBVanix]

Damn Jean, Gabi's just a little girl.

[u/Voi69]

As a manga reader, I couldn't wait for this Kaya scene adaptation, and it was wonderfully done!

[u/StarmanRiver]

Jean got his chance to avenge Sasha's death! Falco's "GAABIII" in that scene was hilarious though.

Being more serious, MAPPA did a wonderful job with every Kaya, Falco and Gabi segment. Both Ayaneru and Kaya's VA did a fantastic job, that scene with them discussing in the abandoned village was 10/10.

[u/Timelymanner]

Gabi’s answers for all the world’s problems.

Murder

If that doesn’t work try killing someone else.

[u/Infamous-QB]

"Eren did nothing wrong" - Floch "The King" Forster.

[u/Kroue]

I love how Falco is 50 times a better soldier than Gabi in every way, cool and calm behind enemy lines. Blending in with the locals while Gabi is just a brainwashed brat.

[u/VastTask]

Some nice camerawork by Mappa when Porco called Zeke a traitor.

https://imgur.com/a/2nEznT9

[u/SticksandBalls]

"To think we fought side-by-side with a traitor this whole time"

Reiner: why is the camera on me?

[u/FeelsGoodMan243]

The core theme of AOT season 4 has been the parallels of tragedy between opposing sides. And it seems like episode 11 is pushing this concept even further with multiple parallels between opposing groups; Gabi and Falco’s clashing ideals, floche and the people belief in Eren vs Hange’s distrust, and Kaya’s belief in forgiving contending with Gabis belief in eternal sins. So, let’s dive back to beginning to analyze each of these scenes, so we can truly understand the brilliance of AOT!

Starting with Gabi Vs. Falco; In scene one we witness the first example of Falco rational logic clashing with Gabis irrational narrow path of revenge. As he attempts to get her to remove her marleyian badge to avoid standing out. Unfortunately, her pride as an honorary marleyian is too big to comply. Gabi’s only goal is to understand why zeke betrayed them and die as a “martyr”, while Falco wants to blend in and wait for help.

It’s clear how vast the levels of brainwashing Gabi have dwelled in has hindered her mental process, reducing her into a slave of marley. While Falco was seemingly saved by Eren. It’s quite ironic how the person who bestowed great tragedy towards his home, is also the one who gifted him with the ability to be a free thinker.

Nevertheless, the following scenes are also very important in showcasing how differently they handle difficult situations. During the dinner scene, Gabi is staring into the abyss, terrified of the thought of sharing a meal with those damned “edelian devils”. And when the mother attempts to comfort her, she smacks her away without haste, because in her eyes those devils could be plotting to murder her at any time. While on the other hand, Falco is attempting to establish trust between themselves and the eldelians, even if he’s failing miserable at making themselves seem unsuspicious. The point being even though Falco is just as terrified as Gabi, he has common sense and is able give people a chance before reacting with conflict.

This plays a huge part in the excellent exchange between Gabi and Kaya, as their ideals clash between forgiving others and believing that one who has sinned is damned eternal punishment. Kaya finds out that they are secretly marleyians but she doesn’t report them or judge them for the crimes of their nation. She wants to establish a friendship, and snap Gabi back into reality, by showcasing that she is not the only one who is suffering from great trauma. Unfortunately, Gabi is too self-centered to accept that the eldelians have suffered from the same horrific events plagued by Marley. She believes that they deserve any “punishment” bestowed apon them, because of their sins. However, Falco jumps into support for Kaya, because he realizes that the eldelians have experienced the same tragedy because of his numerous conversations with Eren. Also it's quite ironic how Kaya admires Sasha, but her murderer is the same person she’s unknowingly trying to befriend.

And speaking of Eren Yeager; the final parallel of this episode revolves around his legacy. Eren has gained a large number of supports, led by floche and his lackeys. They believe in Erens ideals of freeing the eldelians with the horrific rumbling plan. However, I wonder if they realize every detail because the people seem too cheery for such a genocidal weapon. I wouldn’t be surprised if Floche’s dumbass is spreading misinformation to make it seem holier than it truly is. Nevertheless, this clashes with Hange’s distrust in eren and keeping the information secret. This is quite ironic, because Hange was hailed as the hero of the press in season 3. She was one of the ones who championed the idea of the average man having power. Now she’s the one who is lying to the people and acting like the same corrupt authority they overthrew in season 3.

And finally, one last thing that needs to be pointed out is the brilliant callbacks of previous events. Usually, authors like Oda is praised for interconnecting everything in their story, no matter how small, but Isayama is underrated when it comes to such praise. He managed to connect to random girls that were saved by sasha and Mikasa, and turned them into seemingly important character.

[u/Satan_su]

The scene between Gabi Falco and Kaya is probably the most emotional I've got in an AoT sceneThe repeated aimless justification was so harrowing to see

[u/JapanPhoenix]

PSA: THERE IS A POST CREDITS SCENE!

[u/[deleted]]

Swaping Sasha for Gabi has been the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever.

[u/michhoffman]

It was great to see Gabi come under fire today at the Blouse Farm, first from the horse who threw her into the mud and then from Kaya who destroyed her viewpoint that Eldians should pay for the sins of their ancestors while recounting the tale of her savior Sasha. The upcoming confrontation between Gabi and Niccolo should be quite interesting.

Also, Iyasama, it would be great if you could stop ripping open the wound in my heart from Sasha’s death like this.

[u/JusKen]

There was a overarching theme this episode of inheritance.

How free are you truly to choose your path? Hange is struggling between her personal choices and the ones that have been laid out for her.

Should the current generation bear the sins of their predecessors? Gabi doesn't yet realise that she is both a victim of this mentality and persecuting others for the same thing. It will definitely be an emotional moment when she realises she has been staying with the family of the person she killed in cold blood.

[u/PieckFiction]

The dramatic irony of Gabi having actually killed Sasha but neither of them realizing it was so incredibly well done.

[u/UsedUniversity2180]

Man, I really feel bad for Hange. Seeing their eccentric personality breakdown in the last couple episodes was tough. It's just as that mp guy from s3 said, they now have to take the stage.

[u/tylerjehills]

Reiner is just tragic as fuck my goodness

[u/kirsteinsvalentine]

I feel like people forget that Gabi and Falco experienced the battle at Liberio with 2 very different mindsets. Falco didn't experience the anger/grief of seeing Udo and Zofia killed, and Gabi doesn't have the insight Falco does after hearing Eren and Reiner's conversation. Willy Tybur's reveal of the truth wasn't gonna be enough for Gabi to reconsider her entire world view, but living with the "devils" is going to be. The character growth is beginning!!

[u/MonochromeGuy]

Seeing how much Gabi is trying to be a “good Eldian” is really sad to see tbh. To see someone get so brainwashed into thinking they deserve to be oppressed and trialed for sins they’ve never committed is just sad to see. And to see your entire worldview that has been taught to you since you were born crumble before you must be hard to go through on first hand.

I hope Gabi’s time with the Braus family will help her realize everything she has done was wrong.

[u/Bios1023]

Not sure how many caught Falco's reaction when Gabi was blaming on Zeke betraying them in the barn. Falco is recalling his action to deliver letters for Eren which indirectly leads to the attack in Marley, he sees himself as a traitor as well.

My god every line in this shows punches me in the face, and I loved it

[u/[deleted]]

It was funny to me that how floch defended eren in front of his friends😭 like really

[u/[deleted]]

Fuck, I teared up a little at that display at the end of how kindness can echo from years ago.

[u/CudaBarry]

Falco: can you stop trying to kill every eldian you see for 5 FUCKING MINUTES?

[u/akkobutnotreally]

PSA: "Boku no Sensou" by Shinsei Kamattechan (this season's opening song) is getting the full release TOMORROW (Monday, February 22nd).

You'll find the song on streaming services as well.

That is all.

[u/TatteredTongues]

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[u/[deleted]]

A really nice touch during the Warrior's conversation:

When Porco says "I can't believe we were fighting alongside a traitor all along"..

The camera pans towards Reiner's eyes.

Indication towards his time at Paradis.

[u/CaptainRikkai]

Absolutely love how Porco said this line and the camera cut to Reiner.

[u/SDPark]

"If [Sasha] was still alive, she'd never abandon two kids with nowhere to go, like you." Lol, it really seems like the writers want us to hate Gabi even more with every episode... Just keeps on throwing more salt into the wound...

[u/FrizFroz]

Gabi looks exactly like post-Shiganshina/pre-Marley Eren without her hairband.

[u/Dalshiena]

Indoctrination on children... it’s always scary to think about things like this- wanting to believe that ‘you’ weren’t taught things like that.

I used to live in a colonised country. I remember my history teacher saying that it was a good thing. That those colonisers “saved” our people since we now had a true god- since our people worshiped the trees, sun, moon etc.

I remember feeling confused but never questioned it. Because they are teachers, that’s their job to teach children.

Fast forward to me living in a different country. Needing to do a sociology assignment on Assimilation and me with my background; agreeing with it. You can guess my shock when majority of my classmates disagreed with me.

What the loss of culture meant to people who were colonised. That loss of identity... so now majority of the history/culture that I know of for my country was learnt when I didn’t live there anymore. Most of which I didn’t know existed.

[u/Nekozawazey]

Falco just went and role-played siblings with his life-long crush.

Falco confirmed fellow degenerate.

[u/RiseDK]

Watching last couple episodes, I wonder what would have be like if Erwin was alive.

[u/kitzz11]

This episode potrays one of the aot’s main theme so well

[u/rosa_gris]

Ever since Gabi and Falco boarded the airship, I was hoping their character arcs would go in this direction: Gabi and Falco get to see how the Paradis Eldians really live; with Falco being the voice of reason and Gabi being proven wrong. But to think that the person who Sasha saved would be the one enlightening Sasha’s killer....

Edit: they were also invited to eat at the restaurant of the guy who liked Sasha, oof.

[u/ItsNotPro]

Gabi violated that guard bruh

[u/HusseinH]

Eren in Mikasa's memories is very cold now... In contrast to the scared kid in previous seasons.

[u/Will-Isley]

Mikasa replaying “that day” in her head and wondering if she ever knew eren is downright eerie for their relationship. I think maybe she has to acknowledge that she was blind to who he is because he was the only good thing about “that day”

[u/arnav1311]

Great episode. Visuals were amazing.

As a manga reader, I'd like to lower the expectations of all the anime onlies for the first part of the final season. We previously expected the first part will adapt till chapter 122 but it seems like it's on pace to end at chapter 116.

Since we hyped the shit out of everyone (Marley Arc was amazing though) for the finale of this season, I believe it's our responsibility to dial the expectations back as well.

[u/Orrakai]

Gabi is getting a dose of the truth of the present and I'm loving every second of it. She's seeing paradisians as regular people, not as the devils that she's been led to believe and it's fucking with her brainwashing.

I truly hope that she eventually learns that she killed the daughter of the household that lovingly took her in when she had nowhere to go.

***And for the love of God she had better not kill Sasha's dad. ***

[u/SolubilityRules]

What did you do to survive such a close encounter with a titan, Kaya?

Kaya: That's because...... lightning

Turns to a titan and eats Gabi

YOUSEEBIGGIRL AAAaaaaaaAaaaaaaAa

Next Episode: The Surprise Titan

[u/DadAsFuck]

jean boy finally got his revenge

[u/[deleted]]

floch is so hot, yall ı cant

[u/fourchainz__]

kinda disappointed with the crunchyroll translation when kaya says "i want to be just like her" instead of "i want to grow up to be like my sister". her calling sasha her sister makes the relationship between them hit so much harder

[u/sese2003]

That poor guy gabi hit with a brick...

That’s like the third person who has died after showing mercy to a 12 year old girl...

[u/Earth7412369]

Most beautiful episode thus far imo. Lots of old characters showing up again, lovely to see.

Brilliant setup episode. So much lore and character progression going on as we see lots our characters fighting with their inner demons: Hange with her Sannes memory and becoming the very political authority she vowed to never become, Mikasa with her memories of Eren and her headaches showing Eren hasn't changed much at all, but now his enemies are the world not kidnappers or titans, and finally Gabi and her struggles with understanding that the island Eldians are not the devils she believed them to be.

Only time will be able to allow these characters to struggle with these concepts and either accept or reject the reality of these notions.

I do wish they didn't cut Hange's remark, "You mean the Nation of Eldia" when Floch claims they are "The New Eldian Empire". It really goes to show that this "New Eldian Empire" is not something that Paradis as a whole is behind and people like Hange want a name for their country with less autocratic sounding name.

[u/pmj13]

I can’t believe Jean tried to eat Gabi.

[u/Zonca]

Reiner: "We have to launch a surprise attack!"

Magath: "There's no way we can amass any significant military unit in such a short time!"

Reiner: "The Warriors will go, the three of us can do it alone."

Pocko and Pieck: *looking nervously*

[u/FiveTalents]

Sorry Gabi but the horse had to clown you like that. FOR THE PEOPLE.

[u/ma103]

Every character interactions is so interesting man. I low key love all the dialogue scenes much more than the actions ones.

[u/FrizFroz]

Floch - the Devil's Advocate.
Figuratively and literally.

[u/[deleted]]

Reiner really wants to commit suicide, doesn't he? With Beast, Colossal, Attack and WH titan it really would be difficult to defeat Paradis.

[u/upupandawayweb008]

It makes so much sense that Floch is such a devout follower of Eren now, seeing that he will fight like a devil just like Erwin, and believing that being a devil will save the people in the walls

[u/[deleted]]

Kaya DESTROYS Gabi with FACTS and LOGIC

[u/_Wado3000]

If and when a Final Season Part 2 is announced I will be incredibly fucking happy. It’s like the show is just getting better in so many aspects as it goes on

[u/ReasonableQuit75]

I really love Juan's redemption arc after he left Sasha those years ago

[u/izustation]

I like how this episode made me look outside the world of anime and think about how awful humans are in the society we live in today. It's sad that some of us have to be subjected to brainwashing and not realize that we were taught the wrong things until it's too late.

[u/aidree1]

Gabi and Kaya VAs were exceptionally good this episode. They elevated the dialogue scenes pretty well and the direction of their scene was superb.

[u/Medeses]

Watch out for the post credit scene!

[u/Emi_Ibarazakiii]

Good advice! Sadly she didn't follow it.

"Let me tell you why you all deserve to be eaten by titans." That's the opposite of keeping your mouth shut, Gabi! (I'm beginning to understand where the 'Gabi did nothing wrong!' memes comes from)

Reverting the effects of a mass-spread brainwashing ain't an easy task, but seems like she's getting it across, at least for Falco.

She was especially convincing about something, telling them "It's not your fault, you just so happened to be born in Marley"... They could easily have been the ones being eaten by titans instead.

Gabi may still be on the fence though. I hope she doesn't do anything stupid! (She totally will, right?)

That being said, even I am still on the fence, to be honest. It's a long history of blood feud, they hate each other for what happened in close or distant past... Who's right, who's wrong, who deserve to win?

I don't see it as black&white. Sure now Marley are committing atrocities, but what if they stop, and within a few years they're the victims of atrocities? I wouldn't be comfortable about the titans either, no more than I'd be comfortable about some random people having nukes. Especially when they used them in the past, for a long time.

[u/Knightower]

This episode is something else.

The back and forth scene between Gabi and the girl revealed the mindless hate and denial. This was extremely well done. I have witnessed countless conversations similar to this in real life about people from different religions, nationalities, political beliefs, sexual and gender identities. Many times when someone was a bigot they mindlessly dehumanized the other group, and often they were taught this wrong behavior by their community.

This particular belief (the enemy are evil devils) was/is held by many characters in the show, Eren, Reiner, Flock, and many many others.

The more interesting thing Isayama wrote was the impact of people. Just as we see Marley's impact on Gabi, we see Sasha's impact on the kind girl. We see Mikasa's impact on the female soldier. Some characters (Falco) are able to break the cycle, and that is the first step to healing.

TLDR: Isayama is an OG.

[u/JuicyDragonCat]

Flochad Thundercock makes his aot anime debut

[u/CarioGod]

this is literal god tier writing, bringing back characters like Louise or Kaya who we brushed off as normal civilians in this story, especially the part where Kaya is talking to her savior's murderer

and Porco saying "we fought side by side with a traitor" with Reiner looking down was beyond perfect

[u/lutenizing]

Gabi really woke up and chose violence lol. That scene was brutal.

The fact that Gabi and Falco were taken in by Sasha’s family and specifically the girl who Sasha saved is incredibly ironic. I think this kind of experience is exactly what’s needed for both of them. Also that scene with gabi and jean’s cousin was hilarious.

There’s been a lot of callbacks this episode. The girl Mikasa saved in Trost joins the Survey Corps and joins the Eren groupies. The journalists who supported the survey corps during the revolution are starting to lose their trust in the survey corps now. Plus that scene where Hange remembers Sannes’ warning. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain i guess. I think it’s really interesting to see how the survey corps have found themselves in a similar position to the people they toppled. Floch and the Eren groupies absolutely believe they’re doing the right thing for the good of the Eldian people.

[u/[deleted]]

Kaya destroyed Gabi with facts and logic.

[u/fridge_freezer]

I love all the callbacks and old characters in this episode. Mikasa saving Louise back in S1, Kaya's village from S2 and Flegel, the journalists & Sannes from S3P1.

I'm glad that even though Sasha is gone, she's still had a presence in every episode since. Especially with this episode, Kaya wanting to be like Sasha is really heartwarming.

[u/introversionguy]

The way the blonde girl's mum died was so gruesome. I had completely forgot about it until I watched it again.

[u/DeithWX]

Can they stop rubbing more salt into the Sasha wound, it's like every week they find a new way to make me remember and get depressed again :(

[u/WarlockOfDestiny]

Man I always feel so emotionally dead after most every episode of this season. It's incredibly well written but fuck..

[u/cuminaburger]

The horse represents AOT and Gabi is every other anime ever made, which means AOT is chomping down on all other anime through popularity and imdb MAL ratings

[u/FutureSage]

Legit had tears in my eyes on line "what did my mother do to deserve death?"

Mia/Gabi: "your Kind killed millions, they-"

"My Mother killed no one"

I know I butchered that scene, but that scene with Falco and Gabi encountering a survivor of the attack 4 years ago was powerful.

The kindness she showed towards them despite knowing they are Marleyans because of the impact Sasha had on her just makes it more sad, I didn't know how I made it through this without the waterworks triggering.

but I'll keep moving forward until all the episodes are watched.

[u/thesagenibba]

Falco is a healer.

[u/OmarKage]

even studio MAPPA hate Gabi.. lol

[u/MysticAttack]

Hey Mia, there was this awesome girl who saved my life, just the best ever, also probably has no relation to that girl you killed

[u/Mehulex]

That girl Mikasa saved in S1, during trost became a soldier. It's details like that, that makes me love this Masterpiece even more

[u/drakenastor]

The chills man. I don't get why this is so good? Am I just blinded by hype? Like damn man.

[u/Dyvius]

What an absolutely powerful chapter.

Like, DAMN. Gabi being forced to come to terms with her brainwashing at the hands of the Marleyan propaganda machine is something else.

And the way we the viewer get to witness a girl once saved by Sasha tell her this is just a gut punch. Not to mention being given shelter by her family...

Just, damn.

[u/alphamone]

Gabi seems to be going through a deep existential crisis, being unable to accept that so much of her world view is a total lie.

[u/BetaBoy777]

I haven’t seen an episode of mostly just talking have this much tension and drama since Death Note

[u/[deleted]]

GAABBBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII 10 minutes later IIIIIIIII

great episode

[u/MordorfTheSenile]

Can someone explain to me what exactly about Lousie being in prison triggered Mikasa's memory of her and Eren almost being murdered in the cabin? I have a feeling something is going over my head.

[u/gamebond89]

Did anyone even notice how well the soundtracks were placed in this episode? It really made a huge difference.

[u/[deleted]]

I need a 60 minute episode of just scenes where Gabi get's proven that she is wrong over and over.

[u/darthvall]

That is a strange timing to recall Eren killing other people on his childhood. I know that it's the turning point of Mikasa's loyalty to eren, but it just felt strange. I wonder if there's something more to it.

[u/aidree1]

Anyone noticed that Gabi ate a piece of potato when she was at the Blouse stables. Too soon?

[u/_aydrayy_]

After watching today's episode i lost control and started to read the manga which is literally pain

[u/tiour]

Jean: 1

Gabi: 0

Your move little devil

[u/KozukiErhyst]

Floch really made a 180 on his opinion about Eren

[u/IdesOfCaesar7]

Not gonna lie, I was starting to feel a little fatigue from the last 2 episodes, but this one was incredible. Unbelievable. The caring girl is the girl that was rescued by Sasha, and Gabi and Falco end up at Sasha's residence. When people think if Attack on Titan our mind races immediately to the images of epic titan battles but I cherish these episodes with small moments equally as much. Fucking hell Isayama you bloody genius.

[u/kairyux]

Around this time in the manga, season 3 part 1 was airing, and Red Swan was the OP. It's basically like "HEY, REMEMBER WHEN THEY WERE ALL INNOCENT HAPPY FRIENDS?" And now look at them.

[u/clorox_baratheon]

i love this shot where kaya learns the truth behind her mom's death and sulks while also being basked in light. there's also an open door to her left, which is seemingly guiding her towards the light, a symbol of truth. and life is sprouting on the walls of an abandoned building, symbolising a new beginning, as gabi is slowly but surely undoing her brainwashing.

[u/encenitaboulevard]

Me: depressed after sasha’s murder episode but getting better

Isayama with every new episode: feel the pain baby!!

[u/JuicyDragonCat]

You know when gabi kills lobov and sasha I guess it is sort of justified cause you know they did just take a huge dump on her hometown and kill her friends but that poor gateguard man......he got done so dirty rip

[u/[deleted]]

You can see the gears spinning in Gabi's head as all the indoctrination and propaganda get challenged and debunked. It's so easy to hate someone else when they're dehumanized, but it's not so easy to face a living, breathing human who's just like you.

[u/kvorncage]

Very awesome episode dayum. As a manga reader this chapter wasn't really as interesting as others but mappa really nailed it. And idk if I'm the only one who noticed but the scenery and Animation in this episode was like absolutely gorgeous. The conversation between kaya and gabi was cool as f props to the VAs for that. The last part really made me cry when kaya said I want to be a person like her so overall this episode exceeded all my expectations. Good job see y'all next week

[u/cluesagi]

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

-- Mark Twain

[u/SimoneNonvelodico]

"It's the work of the devils!"
"No, it's the work of the horse."

Guys, let's compromise. It's the work of Jean.

[u/FleraAnkor]

Oh man. That hit.

She killed the girl who rescued the girl that is showing her mercy now. This might have been one of attack on titan's best episodes!

[u/NardiPablo]

OMG I love how sasha still having presence in all this chapters.When I realized that kaya was the girl she saved I was petrified

[u/[deleted]]

I wonder why this hasn't been brought up more often but the rumbling is basically a bunch of colossal titans who are in the walls right? So how are they gonna make sure that the titans won't just walk over the people of paradis and kill them all once they use said power? I could imagine this occuring in the future

[u/flamethekid]

Kaya is a good girl, she's a very good girl.

Best side character out there atm

[u/[deleted]]

KING FLOCH GANG RISE UP

HORSE FOR THE WIN

[u/rocky_iwata]

We are in the middle of the season where quality of generic seasonal anime drop hard, but that is absolutely not this show. Very impressed with quality and details especially background arts of this episode.

[u/varishtg]

That entire debate over who's in the right was so well done. It draws so many parallels over the issues we see today. Also little does Gabi know the damage she has done. Falco is perfectly playing the big brother role. Can't wait enough for what ends up happening over the course of this season, everyone has so many vested interests, and the last 3 episodes have done an amazing job of building up the tension and laying out the groundwork.

[u/Icy-Chemistry9874]

What if Kaya takes Gabi and Falco to Niccolo, and then Niccolo realises that gabi was the one that killed his favorite potato girl and then instead of helping her tries to kill her instead

[u/zool714]

Ok so this past week, I got slightly irritated at two characters from Slime and Spider that are going against the MC. They were ignorant and arrogant. So I’m not gonna pretend I don’t get angry at anime characters.

But even when I read this when the chapter first came out in the manga, I’ve never felt irritated or annoyed or anger or hate towards Gabi. One of my sisters reads the manga too and I remember how we both laughed at Gabi. Not because it was funny, but more like “wow she is one crazy girl”. I guess it was 90% amused/entertained at her craziness, 10% feeling sorry for her cos she’s that brainwashed.

Now, my other sister who’s anime-only, just watched this ep and went livid at Gabi with her exchange with Kaya. She said “I don’t care she’s brainwashed and a kid. I hate her” and me and my other sister just chuckled.

I dunno man I think we just have different levels of sympathy and attachment and values. I do have that feelings in me, like I mentioned with Slime and Spider, but I just don’t have it when it comes to Gabi. I guess I can understand the hate but I just can’t relate. I do think she’s incredibly ignorant but I don’t get so gung-ho angry at her. And I guess it’s a little fun laughing at people who do get so worked up about it like my sister lol

[u/OISHOESSKE]

The way they demonstrate hatred between people just because they have different pasts is incredible this anime is easily surpasses being a classic its something else

[u/bouncer109]

Gabi is *quite* unlikeable in this episode

[u/[deleted]]

The fact that Sasha left a legacy that helped Kaya escape and want to become her was so goddamn powerful. Also, the scene going from Yelena to the horse was hilarious.

[u/me_funny__]

Sasha's horse: tears welling up in it's eyes "Give me one reason why I shouldn't do it!"

[u/thetruerhy]

Press F for prison guard dude who died a horrible death to Gabi today.

[u/migsgee]

the transition from Commander Pyxis calling Yelena a young, beautiful woman to abruptly showing the horse in the stables was pretty funny lol

[u/pepperminthippos]

heading towards 15k it seems. next episode will be wild :)

[u/yoongi410]

Kaya: Here, have some chocolates, you two!
Falco: Aww you're too kind. Thanks Kaya! Grabs chocolate and eats it
Gabi: You're too kind Kaya! Nobody's that kind! Grabs knife and tries to stab her

[u/mike_2797]

The exchange between kaya and Gabi was well done and nice to see Jean taking some revenge for sasha.

[u/aidree1]

The fact that the last scene hits more than Sasha’s death :(

[u/ButtholePasta]

I don't see many people commenting on it, but Sasha's dad has a "south Marleyan accent"? Hmm. I'm really curious whether this is just world building or if it's gonna be a relevant detail about the Braus family I guess?

[u/Silverkira]

Sasha saved kaya from Connie's dad eating kaya's mother. lol isayama creates weird relation with in world characters.

[u/[deleted]]

Are we not going to talk about MiKasa flashback?