Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Episode 60 discussion

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Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season, episode 60

Alternative names: Attack on Titan Final Season, Shingeki no Kyojin Season 4

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Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score
60	Link	4.65	73	Link	4.73
61	Link	4.57	74	Link	4.71
62	Link	4.71	75	Link	-
63	Link	4.77
64	Link	4.9
65	Link	4.73
66	Link	4.92
67	Link	4.81
68	Link	4.67
69	Link	4.52
70	Link	4.64
71	Link	4.52
72	Link	4.8

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[u/Tenroku]

So for confused anime-onlies, here's a little timeline that you can deduce from the infos given here and there in the episode :

• 845 : Colossal and Armored Titan launch their first attack on the Walls, Wall Maria falls.

• 850 : Battle of Trost, etc... up to Return to Shiganshina. Marley loses the Female Titan and Colossal Titan against the island Eldians. Some nations from the Middle-East see this decrease in Marley's power as an opportunity to form an Alliance and go to war against Marley.

• 851 : 6 years after the fall of Wall Maria, the Scout Regiment launches an expedition outside the walls and reaches the sea (end of Season 3)

• 854 (present) : The war between Marley and the Middle-East Alliance comes to an end. Marley comes out victorious and a peace treaty is signed.

[u/TripleR124]

LMAO Reiner really said “I’m sick and tired of walls”

[u/ihatejanniiiiiies]

The geopolitics of this situation is what I find most interesting.

Damn, this episode made me realize just what a humiliating embarrassment Marley's loss on Paradis must be. They deployed 4 out of their 9 titan shifters on one tiny Island with Napoleonic technology with a huge intelligence disadvantage, with Paridisians not knowing about the outside world or titan shifters, and still lost. Napoleon's Grand Armee had around 700,000 troops before entering Russia, Paradis had a few thousand at best.

It's no wonder that after that the Middle Eastern Federation/Ottoman Empire Fez-wearing stand-in decided to test their luck. They seem industrialized to a WW1 standard like the Marleyans.

Turkey mobilized roughly 3 million men for WW1, France roughly 8 Million, and Germany 11 Million. Industrialization gives a huge logistics advantage for mobilization. If a few thousand guys with muskets, horses, and smoothbore roundshot cannons can defeat 4 titan shifters, it's no wonder that they thought their machine guns, dreadnoughts, precise armor piercing rifled artillery with several miles of range, and hundreds of thousands if not millions of troops could prevail, resulting in a 4 year war (same length as WW1).

I wonder if any of the other powers will try to reach out to Paradis now and try to get them to join the next inevitable coalition war while providing them new arms. The Marleyans have clearly been dominating and bullying their neighbors for a long time with their titan advantage, so the resentment is overwhelming. They know Paradis exists and is a backwater isolated from the rest of the world, they know Marley lost two shifters there, and they may or may not know that Paradis possesses the colossal titan. It wouldn't hurt to send a few guys there to ask how Paradis won, and then clue them in to the global situation. Once the public finds out in Paradis they are going to be beyond pissed, and they would be able to provide a lot of extremely eager and driven soldiers once properly armed and trained.

Maybe the other world powers won't reach out due to racism against Eldians, but the Marleyans clearly detest the Eldians but see their value as suicidal shock troops due to their special powers.

Also, Paradis's situation reminds me of how the Tokugawa Shogunate cut itself off from the world for hundreds of years and their collective shock when Commodore Perry rolled up on them. It's interesting because this is obviously a Japanese work and what happened to Paradis is an allusion to the Japanese historical experience.

[u/[deleted]]

It feels like I'm not even watching AoT anymore, holy hell.

[u/AirRave]

Reiner's transformation was so damn hype

[u/tehsigzorz]

Committing war crimes has never been this cute

[u/rusticks]

Reiner and getting absolutely destroyed, name a more iconic duo.

[u/JapanPhoenix]

Standby for Titanfall

[u/OneirionKnight]

All of you guys get off crunchyroll so I can watch the damn episode

[u/[deleted]]

The premise of this season is so fucking clever and such an incredible swerve from the original. These unstoppable, terrifying Titans having a hell of a lot of trouble dealing with guns and battleships and almost dying, requiring 4 just to take a single fort. Isayama is such a fucking galaxy brain dude.

[u/ComfortablyRotten]

Me: "I'm going to rewatch all of Attack on Titan before the final season starts so that I will be up-to-date and not confused right at episode 1!"

Episode 1 starts

Me: "I'm confused."

[u/Cheetah357]

Holy crap, the trailer song used in that scene was so great.

[u/DadAsFuck]

the op is what happens when you hire michael bay to direct your gender reveal party

[u/InsanePheonix]

Art looks straight out of manga, even the shadow and eye details match the manga....Mappa flexin' .

[u/Inspektical]

Great first episode. It's really interesting that the Eldian candidates view the Eldians in the walls of Paradis and the Eldians in the internment zone differently. It's a kind of segregation within the same race, most likely due to the heavy anti Eldian propaganda in Marley.

I liked the animation and art style, and while it's gonna be hard to get used to the 3D titans, they're not as bad as Colossal in S3 but also not as good as their 2D counterparts in previous seasons IMO.

I'm liking the tone a lot. The casualties and effects of war are on full display with shell shocked soldiers, bodies falling everywhere and even suicide bombers. Not to mention those poor Eldians stuck on the airship that I'm assuming are all drugged.

Really liked Gabi, she feels like a mix of Eren and Jean, committed and strong willed but also cocky and pushy.

I'm REALLY interested in the fact that Falco thought he was fighting titans "flying around with swords in my hands". Makes me think of how Eren Kruger saw Eren's memories, so maybe Falco does turn out to be the chosen candidate? Can't wait to see.

I could go on for hours but I'm just gonna go and watch it again.

[u/Yaggamy]

Alternate episode titles:

Attack on Titan Pearl Harbor

It's raining men titans

Saving Private Ryan Gabi

[u/varishtg]

Well worth the wait. As an anime only viewer, what the hell is happening? Do I need to watch something after the previous season, to understand what happened in ep 1. Have so many questions here.

[u/fridge_freezer]

That was fucking wild. If someone told me in 2014 that this was where the story end up, I would have laughed at them. Barely feels like the same show, and I love it.

So there's a four year time-skip and all-out war with another nation because of Marley's failure on Paradis. Seems like Zeke & Reiner are coming to the end of their 13 year lifespan and are set to be replaced by the new warriors. I like Gabi already, can't say much about the others yet but Falco seems interesting. Strange that he thought he was using ODM gear, is that PATHS in action?

The entire airdrop and assault on the fortress was crazy, using the trailer song for that sequence was perfect. Poor Reiner just can't stop taking all the L's, though at least he looked badass doing it.

Was that Jean at the end buying the newspaper?

[u/Arkaniux]

Machine guns? Hand grenades? Blimps? TANK TRAINS?! When did we reach World War era technology?

I gotta say, using brainless Titans as a physical and psychological weapon of war is absolutely terrifying. I think I'd rather get shot and bleed out than getting chewed to death by them.

Cart Titan is the one on all-fours with the machine gun turrets on its back, right? Isn't that the one that saved Zeke? I guess the Jaw Titan is what Ymir's was called before they took it and passed it on to this Galliard dude.

BASEBALL MONKE IS BACK!

EDIT: I want to point out that, ironically, the Cart Titan has a bigger and longer jaw than the Jaw Titan. Who made this Titan and figured "Fuck it, let's put something on its back and call it Cart Titan. We have to invent carts first."

[u/Hiyasc]

That absolutely did not feel like 20 minutes, it felt like 2. It should be expected by now, but the animation on this was phenomenal, I particularly noticed it with the Armored Titan.

Also, as an anime only watcher who didn't rewatch before starting this, I am thoroughly confused.

[u/Kance10]

Someone should add Zeke to a "cute anime girls going eeeeeehhh?!" compilation, he truly deserves it

[u/Silent_Shadow05]

It's raining titans today

Ngl, seeing all those titans falling from the sky and the trailer music playing along with it made me so excited. RIP to those soldiers, so many were crushed to death.

[u/Mariasolvv]

The beast titan looking at the armored titan at the end of the episode like "not this shit again"

[u/thesagenibba]

Anyone else feel so bad for the Eldians in the plane? What a horrible death, my god. Marleyans are truly evil

[u/TSmasher1000]

I was skeptical of the pacing and the animation when I heard a new studio was doing this, but holy shit it was everything I envisioned and more. Pacing was perfectly done and the action sequences looked amazing. It seems like they'll adapt 2 chapters per episode or so. Looking forward to the rest of the season, strap in you anime-onlies are in for a wild ride.

For those that are confused, so we've got a four-year timeskip since the warriors failed to take Paradis (and a three-year timeskip since the end of episode 59 as there was a year-long timeskip in that episode where the Survey Corps used the new technology they developed to destroy all the titans outside of the walls on Paradis). Marleyans have been fighting a separate war from the Paradisians (our main cast) for a few years. An enemy country, after seeing the failures of the warriors to take Paradis have jumped onto the opportunity to attack Marley after seeing their military might weakened, which stalled their plans to attack Paradis again. They've been stuck on this war and we have new warrior candidates who are competing to inherit the armored titan as Reiner's tenure is expiring.

This episode was showing how they've basically got a fort under siege and if they were able to take out that fort they would win the war, but they had no good solutions on taking it out due to new technology of an armored train having the capability to destroy and kill titans. Gabi, one of the new warriors, extremely skilled and seemingly set to inherit the armored titan, takes it out with her pipe bombs and extreme bravery and the rest of the warriors take out the fort. However, it is not without casualties and the warriors themselves, not used to fighting battles where they can actually be basically challenged or harmed, are facing trouble by the new military might of the country they've been fighting. Reiner has been injured himself despite having the toughest titan out of them showing that the era of titan dominance has basically ended as new technology has been made to keep up with them with the new naval technology (that apparently completely outstripped Marley's navy) and the new weaponry (that can take out titans.)

EDIT: For grammar and some corrections and clarifications on some things.

[u/Aerohed]

I like Gabi and her little gang, but I can't help but feel terrible things will happen to her once the OG crew shows up and starts wrecking shop. Alternatively, she'll become the main character, or something.

Either way, this was a great start to what will likely be a great season.

[u/NittanyEagles55]

Attack on World War 1

[u/Eesti_pwner]

Anime only guy here.

Overall, very cool episode. Really liked the music they used when the titan's attacked.

The most interesting detail this ep: The kid who woke up talked about using swords and 3d manouver gear. I guess it has something to do with eldians being connected or something. He possibly has memories from someone we know (Erwin? lul).

I hope this indicates that we will explore this concept further and get some interesting developments :)

Oh damn, now I have to wait a week for the next ep....

[u/DirkDasterLurkMaster]

CGI Beast Titan: Meh. Hope I get used to it.

CGI Armored and Cart Titan: Pretty good

CGI Jaw Titan: HOLY SHIT

[u/iV1rus0]

This episode did not feel like your typical AoT episode, and I don't mean that as a bad thing. We went from a Walking Dead apocalypse type story to GoT politics, the way the story shifted was so seamless, it's honestly really really impressive how the Mangaka has managed to do that. This episode is great, I'm beyond excited for what's next.

[u/DadAsFuck]

op: attack on titan final season

me: *sobs*

*5 seconds later*

me: damn this op is bangin’

[u/xd_Blaze]

the soundtrack is insane, when Zeke made his entrance I was getting so hyped

[u/Crisisofland]

Goddamn Reiner is HOT. What a glowup.

Man MAPPA nailed the depressing tone of war and all the shit the Eldian warriors go through, so good.

[u/alisonburgersm8]

After 3 seasons of prologue, the real story starts now!

[u/BryanLoeher]

THAT AIN'T FALCO

[u/thesagenibba]

Attack on Titan: War Crimes 101

[u/JBard_]

Man fuck Marley. Hearing Gabbi earnestly think that if she does well enough as a Warrior she can bring freedom to herself and her people was heartbreaking.

[u/cppn02]

Well that was something.

Loved the change of scenery and how it opens up the world after spending the first three seasons on the island. The new titans are fucking awesome and Gabi is just the best. Can't believe I now have to wait a full week, arrrgh.

Btw, embarassing performance from Wakanim today. Tried over an hour to get the episode started until it finally worked, some people still haven't been able to watch it because the servers keep struggling with the load.

I really hope they fix it until next week.

[u/TheFlyingButter]

I've read those two chapters in the manga before watching today's episode, and I have to say I'm thoroughly impressed. MAPPA went out of their way to add some extra scenes to make the experience fuller, the animation is top notch, the CGI titans look way better than what WIT gave us in the past two seasons. I like Gabi's VA too, I think she'll fit the role very well. Overall a very promising start, glad to see the studio change probably won't drastically influence the series' quality.

[u/ResidentResearch8189]

HYPE. IM STILL WAITING FOR THE EPISODE LOL

[u/GhostOfLight]

Holy, what an episode. I was worried that not having our main characters in the first part of the season would be a drawback, but man did this episode prove me wrong. Some of my main takeaway:

-In a show about giant monsters eating humans, the most terrified and disgusted I've felt was when they showed those people being airdropped in. Realizing that this isn't set in a world too different from our own is frightening.

-Depressed, war aged, about to hand off the torch Reiner is scarier than confused soldier/warrior Reiner. His character was one of my absolute favorites going into this season, I hope his development continues. Sad Reiner isn't where I wanted him to end up, but my hopes for a happy ending for him is limited.

-Oh boy am I going to be relying on these discussion threads for all the things I don't pick up on.

[u/mMeister_5]

Re:Zero season 2 episode 1 had 83 awards, I believe.

This is at like, 100. After an hour. Rip.

[u/someroastedbeef]

MAPPA did not disappoint. 10/10 first episode

[u/aes110]

I hate seeing how much those kids hate the Eldians in the wall :( , I hope they will turn around.

Also i dont see anyone talking about it, and maybe I'm crazy, but they guy with the hat at the end, was that fucking Kenny? Like I know he is supposed to be dead but he looks so similar

[u/thesagenibba]

OH MY GOD IS THAT JEAN I JUST SAW? AT THE END?

[u/notathrowaway75]

Here it is. Will this be a Game of Thrones esque disaster or will this be Breaking Bad esque greatness?

Or in anime terms, Food Wars esque disaster or Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood esque greatness.

Whichever one it'll be, we're on the train and we will witness whatever happens.

Edit: Oh and this should go without saying, but if the anime does turn out bad, please do not send death threats to the animators and staff.

[u/Kyubeu]

As an anime only I suspected that we will have some kind of politics and conflict right now but I did not expect a timeskip and a new set of characters. Almost completely new. What exactly led to this? We might learn in the future. But I can certainly say that both Gabi and Falco will be interesting. All in all, a great hook with differing atmosphere highlighted by OP and ED, second of which I adore. Oh man, it was a great choice to catch up to the series early this year. Also, great military scenes and WW(I)I (edited because of comments) technology? Nice. Beautiful

[u/The_Draigg]

I'm just gonna lay it out here at the start of the final season: FALCO'S 👏 OUR 👏 BOY 👏.

[u/Neverx_13]

Fuck this episode was really good, CGI blended pretty well apart from some shots. I love the scene with the trailer OST when storming the fort. I cannot wait for next week.

[u/ColdSteel144]

Not the brightest in tactics from the Allied Navy there. Presumably they know what the Beast Titan is capable of and yet they still clustered in one spot like morons. If they had been spread out across the entire harbor they could've kept up a bombardment for more than one salvo and potentially killed them both.

[u/krfz41]

To you, 20k upvotes later.

[u/Sane-Ni-Wa-To-Ri]

End card for this episode!

(from official twitter)

bonus:

MAPPA illustration:

Gabi

(from MAPPA twitter)

[u/Bonvantius]

To describe the implementation of the CG in summary:

The CG models are impressive *Albeit with a bit of a plastic-toy shine especially on Reiner

(It sort of stands out in the gritty, de-saturated environments)

Their movements are slightly too swift, fluid and lack some weightiness (Look at any scene with Beast and Armour in S2 to compare how they convey the imposing scale of titans effectively)

Specifics:

Galliard's model blends in the best with the backgrounds, but his hair is a bit too stiff and shiny.

Reiner moves with the proportions of a regular sized human. There's no account of the literal mass of his figure.

*Galliard also moves very fast, but that just makes sense for his titan that runs on all fours, whereas Reiner's titan is more humanoid.

Zeke's model has the disadvantage of trying to replicate fur and a very-humanoid face that has lots of wrinkles and details, making him look very close to his video game counterpart, but in an animated setting.

Other things I noticed:

It's quite commendable how they seamlessly blended 2D and 3D in Reiner's Transformation sequence.

[u/N4mFlashback]

The New OP is so unsetteling

[u/Tsubasa_sama]

48-hour total: ~20,320 karma gg boys and girls

[u/xYriaGth]

So many questions...

Amazing episode, well worth the wait.

Not a fan of Gabi after this episode, but who knows, maybe she'll win me over still.

[u/direwolfslayer]

How did that get over so soon? Felt like I had just started into the episode and it's over.

Reiner transformation was great. Can't believe I was rooting for Reiner and Zeke knowing what's gone on over the past seasons. Can't wait for more.

[u/[deleted]]

So is this the highest karma for an episode?

[u/[deleted]]

Went back and read the manga chapters. Adding the second armored train was such a fucking good idea. It really powerfully drove home how much the technology is catching up to the titans, and the moment he got shot really made you feel it, you felt like he was in serious danger.

The part where he had to hide behind the armored train was especially good. Such a nice little touch

[u/Khazu_]

RIP all other series. AoT has arrived.

[u/Silverkira]

ok who the fuck gave this war scenario a wholesome award.

[u/[deleted]]

Fascinated to see how anime onlies feel about this season! Happy watching!

[u/thismise4u]

I just noticed something on re-watch. There looks like there are 3 colors on the arm-bands. Is this like a clearance card for Eldians?

1. Red - Reiner and Zeke. That makes me think it's for only Eldians of the utmost importance, maybe only titans?

2. Yellow - I could only find it on the warrior prospects. ( I didn't get all of their names memorized yet)

3. Grey/White? - everyone else.

Did anyone see any other colors that I missed? or anyone else with a yellow/red?

Edit:

The Girl with black hair that lays down and the guy with blonde hair drinking out of the mug in the preview both have red arm bands. The blonde hair guy I bet is the Jaw titan because he has that long blonde hair, and the girl is the...backpack titan?

[u/daskrip]

Just to clarify. Is this right?

Eldian-controlled Titans:

• Attack Titan (Eren)

• Founding Titan (Also Eren)

• Colossal Titan (Armin)

• Female Titan (Anny - not exactly Eldian-controlled, but at least in their territory)

Maleyan-controlled Titans:

• Jaw Titan (some guy named Galliard)

• Cart Titan (unknown guy done guy named Pieck)

• Armored Titan (Reiner)

• Beast Titan (Zeke)

• a titan we haven't seen yet

[u/Freak5_5]

Officially the highest 48 hour karma count and it's only been 9 hours...

[u/[deleted]]

It is already the most upvoted discussion thread on the sub, AOT keeps slaying💪

[u/saurabh8448]

Coming from a manga reader, it is a very good episode.

[u/KoozieKid]

Is that Galliard guy's titan the same one as Ymir? Like did he inherit her power? If someone knows I don't mind being spoiled

[u/Inferno792]

I imagined Galliard's titan's face differently when reading the manga ngl. The armored like face looks sick though.

[u/TabulaRasa108]

Okay, holy crap, this episode actually exceeded my expectations. I totally didn't expect the show to switch to the perspective of a new Eldian Warrior in Marley. And man, the action and animation in this episode was ON POINT. Titan based warfare is insane. I particularly liked how the Scout Titan from Season 3 has turrets on his back.

What a hell of a way to start off the final season.

[u/MaelstromMusic]

Honestly impressed with the usage of CG. While the rest of the animation was a bit rough at times, the well-integrated CG made up for some of that. It's far better than WIT's ever was, even if I'd rather it just be 2D instead.

[u/denjosh09]

to those that have seen the episode A friendly reminder: Do not harrass any of the AOT staff if the adaptation/animation is poor! They’re working off of a hellish schedule and you can’t even imagine how much the staff are suffering.

Source @Jmulli

[u/impetu0usness]

Dudes, the directing and soundtrack of the second half was absolutely superb. Everything starting from Zeke's scream until the end, including Reiner's entrance and battle, was very well paced with some added scenes that made it awesome. I had my gripes with the 3DCG Titans but after a few viewings it wore off and I could enjoy the episode for what it was. A great pilot episode.

Well done MAPPA.

[u/The_Swag_Titan]

Man. The amount of times I came close to reading the manga is insane. But now that I'm here it's worth it. Now people can stop being scared of MAPPA.

[u/LeonKevlar]

As a manga reader I will admit that I was one of the people that were worried about the show switching studios. I like MAPPA a lot and they do have a plenty of hits but they also do have some misses too so I wasn't so sure. I am glad to say though that after seeing this episode, my worries are nothing but worries and that this episode blew me away just like how Reiner got blown away by those anti-titan shells xD

Everyone looks great and sounds great! I absolutely did not look into any of the casting so I was completely surprised to hear Ayaneru as Gabi. She's absolutely the perfect choice for her. Nothing else to say except I am very much excited and hyped to see my favourite parts from the manga animated this new season!

[u/Twofu_]

I remember 6 months ago.. People didn't have faith in MAPPA..

[u/Yaggamy]

Armored train: *Exists*

Gabi in underwear with TNT: "And I took that personally!"

[u/impetu0usness]

Eren's VA wasn't lying when he said this episode felt very cinematic. I wanted to applaud by the end of it

[u/Toonamigamerrr]

I just added another reward 👍

Cheers 🥂🍺

[u/[deleted]]

as expected of AOT

[u/dark77638]

If you pay super close attention, the cart titan human has been named.

[u/Sergiodsc]

SNK did it! 20k.

[u/Izanaginookami10]

I... am speechless, no, I couldn't fucking move a single muscle for the whole duration of the ep for I was so tense I felt like I was about to snap at any moment really. My eyes are bloodshot due to leaving the gaping open for too much time throughout the episode (I mean that I hardly closed them, of course you can't exactly keep them opened for 24 minutes straight...).

No, this was seriously, utterly amazing. Like, a damn surprise with the sudden warfront trench point of view. It was utterly incredible how desolate, hopeless and despairingly the war trench is. I think this is my first time seeing one in the anime medium? Granted, I never searched for one willingly, but damn it, it felt so real, I'm simply astounished.

The OP is especially... harsh, real, cruel, despair filled. I can't say much about the vocal as I suppose it will grow better on me as all OPs, but the visuals. Man, that was simply incredible how crude it was. I love it.

Mappa is doing a great job, for the depiction of warfare as well as the Titan drop bomb was fucking epic, I felt like seeing a nuclear warhead dropping at that moment.

[u/Crisisofland]

After watching parts of it again, this legit could pass for a full length War movie if you add another half hour. Isayama's writing man.

[u/AIManiak]

Bruh its breaking karma and comment records and we haven't even reached the insane parts yet.

[u/cornpenguin01]

Wow these upvotes are INSANE. Think there’s a chance of hitting 20k before 48 hours? I think it’s possible

[u/Xehanz]

Every upvote is a baby step to giant strides to 20k.

[u/Degrasssi]

So close to 20k!! MY SOLDIERS U P V O T E

[u/The_Great_Creator]

10/10 Very solid first episode by MAPPA. I guess I'm going to stay being an anime again this time. CGI was really well done!

[u/Vpeyjilji57]

These warrior trainee kids seem to be potentially interesting characters. I bet that all of them are eaten within five episodes.

[u/Tsubasa_sama]

If the premiere can get 20k just off of being the premiere what will episode 16 get off the finale bonus + rezero conpetition + the chapter it will adapt?

[u/alto-tenor]

Ngl that felt like a movie and all with no cliffhangers at the end.

[u/VegetoSF]

This was amazing. I want to learn more about the outside world and they just gave me a full episode of a WW1 battle within that world where titan exist. Just fascinating how this changes a war. Man I like where this is going!

[u/Belzelga]

I still can't wait for the meaning of Episode 1's title: "To You, in 2000 Years"

[u/redgiftbox]

The REAL story of Shingeki no Kyojin is starting now. Up until to this point we've only seen the events that took place in a pretty small area to build-up the story. It's gonna be epic.

[u/UzEE]

Almost broke the 20k karma on the first episode. I wonder if this is the season peak or can it actually go higher.

[u/KorraLover123]

I love that short clip of the soldiers marching in unison in the OP.

[u/sinplyevanlopez]

Dude... it genuinely feels like I’m watching a completely different attack on Titan. I don’t if it’s a mix of a new animation studio and a new cast or what but it doesn’t feel like the same AOT. Not that that’s a bad thing, this episode was completely and utterly captivating and exciting to watch. I just miss Eren and the gang :(

[u/H-K_47]

The hype can't be stopped anymore.

[u/realrimurutempest]

I love how everyone has joined together to get Attack on Titan all the records lol. It’s a wholesome moment.

[u/toutoune134]

First episode discussion thread to reach 17k, congrats!

[u/notnowmyfriend]

Looking how quickly Marley dismantled the fortress, you would think how tf did they lost the battle of Paradis, given that the Survey Corp only has a couple of hundred soldiers and primitive war technology. Really put into perspective how huge having someone like Levi is.

[u/Lewis_Parker]

Can't wait to see this week's karma poll and see AoT sitting with 20K, having more karma than the other 14 combined.

[u/treesarecool1]

I love this episode! The cgi looks really good for the most part, expect the Beast Titan but the more I look at it the more I get used to it. I hope their using cgi now so that they had put more effect into other upcoming fight scenes. But enough about that!

So far I like this new cast of characters, they look really interesting and the way they play off of each other (mainly the two main ones, Gabi and Falco) is fun to see. My man Reiner had a huge glow up and I had to pause the episode because I realized that I was rooting for him and the rest to win. I think getting to know those new characters first really helped me to root for these guys, because if it just started out with Zeke and Reiner then I would have most likely rooted for the other country to win.

Also Jean at the end!! It seems that he’s in Marley and that he’s infiltrating, which I think suits him because he’s always been the guy to pretend to be Eren. I do wonder though if the others are with him or if he’s sent alone. I think it’s the former because it just seems too risky to send one guy (and one of the few surviving Survey Corps members) into enemy territory without at least backup. If there are backup (like one or two people who came along) then I think it would either be maybe Mikasa and I can’t think of anyone else who would come haha

But the op was one of those that the more I listen to the more I like it. I prefer this one over the s3p2 one, I’m sorry. But the ending is drop dead gorgeous and I love the gold on black.

But amazing first episode to a (I hope) amazing season. I really can’t wait to see the next one!

[u/8Humans]

my points:

• Wakanim weak. (Thanks illegal streaming services)

• Gabi awesome.

• Titans really fucking awesome.

• The OP resembles the first OP but in unsetteling mode.

• There is a lot more than the titan island, holy shit.

[u/SpaceMarine_CR]

OK SPECULATION TIME (IM NOT A MANGA READER I SWEAR)

Gabi Falco gets the armored titan. Why, because he was talking about jumping around with blades? Which is what the scout corps do. Reiner was member of the scout corps, those memories are Reiner's.

[u/Vegeta-IV]

Bro they really out here fighting the Ottoman Empire lmao

[u/NoscopeJoe]

Anyone realize the almost drug induced trance state the eldian paratroopers were in. I suspect they're medicated before such events in order to put them at ease and avoid panic/terror. It explains the melancholic expressions a lot of the titans have throughout the series.

[u/themaskyrobot]

I guess we sort of knew already, but now it's confirmed that Zeke has similar powers to Eren with the shouting and making titans do what he wants, in this case, drugged up Eldians transforming mid-air?

I wonder how that works. Do they need to get the serum injected pre-transformation? Supposedly the moment you inject them, they transform so that can't be. Is it perhaps a power separate from the Coordinate? So many things I'm wondering about and yet nobody is reallly discussing it!

If Zeke can do this, does it mean he can just go inside the walls in Paradis and just scream and have literally the entire Paradis Island's population turn into brainless titans?

Of course all of these are rethorical questions, and I guess it'll be explained further into the season, but it's so interesting. I guess now we know how in S3 Part 2 he just summoned a circle of titans around him.

[u/_dsmith23]

I was expecting atleast 14-15k but here we are about to be at 20k

[u/creeper1117]

I was Skeptical of the CGI at first but honestly it's not that bad. Let's see how it holds up in later fights.

[u/Akatsuki_90210]

20.6 k upvotes holy shit, looks like rezero vs SNK war will be for nothing lol.

[u/Batsy52]

I don't know how it's possible, but I'm speculating that the man in the end we see buying a newspaper and walking away is Jean.

[u/Leeemon]

Legit almost cried at the opening, unbelivable. It's extermely powerful.

I have waited a long time to see this animated, and Mappa absolutely delivered. Great performances for the new characters, the production is through the roof and even the CG titans looked GREAT!

Also, fuck Magath and fuck Marley.

[u/Sogeking33]

I think the cgi Titans look better than WIT’s. My problem however is that every single titan is cgi while only the colossal was cgi for WIT. While they are better.. having only cgi Titans is a big letdown as they don’t have that same grit and scary/intimidating presence of past. I’m not too optimistic of animated Titans in the future as they were all cgi in the first ep (the ep where you usually want to go all out and impress).

[u/thesagenibba]

Never seen so many war crimes committed at once.

[u/PhantomXxZ]

They said 20K was impossible, but we just keep moving forward.

[u/makid3044]

Reiner looks like askelad

[u/Vermillion_Crab]

The amount of times I expressed holy shit in this episode lol

That entire sequence of Titanfall was a sight to behold. The music and visuals gave me chills.

What a way for MAPPA to start the final season. The way they portrayed the horrors and depressing realities of war was just top notch.

It was a great decision for me to stop reading the manga early in the final arc so now I get to be surprised, anxious, hyped and every kind of emotion for whatever this final season has to offer.

Edit: that ED was out of this world

[u/realrimurutempest]

Damn, 19 thousand upvotes 🔥🔥🔥

[u/[deleted]]

I’ve never been more hyped in my life. Two of my favourite moments were Reiner’s arrival and that entire sequence with him. I love when 3D models run like that, it reminds me of Ajin which is 100% a good thing. My other favourite part was when Reiner fell over at the Zeke appeared out of the smoke and threw all the bullets.

[u/thismise4u]

People have tried to talk me out of this, but that has to be Jean at the end right? It just looks way too much like him.

[u/tiour]

There’s now 600 awards?!?! Not saying it will, but i genuinely think it has a shot at breaking the record. That would mean comment count, award count, and karma count would be broken by the premier. That’s actually insane.

[u/[deleted]]

Mappa delivered, thank god. I personally really liked the addition of the second armored train, to show what the armored trains could have done with their 150mm cannon, compared to the manga. Didn't really notice the CGI of the armored titan, but it was rather noticeable on the beast titan when it was doing the motions in throwing shells at the ships.

[u/dioswrath]

I love how some new anime original scenes were added. Really makes the people who were saying that mappa aren't giving much attention to AoT just copying manga one on one feel stupid

[u/Kureimi]

I believe there are more insane episodes to come. The KING is here lol

[u/zedattracted]

It hit 20k. Pog

[u/braydendzzz]

This is crazy I just witnessed history

[u/megann243]

Didn’t expect the ending song to be so good. It’s been on replay since the episode came out for me 😆

[u/BlueShock12]

Lool the records...

[u/seninn]

Modern classic.

[u/yachi100]

Just watched the episode and HOLY SHIT THAT WAS SOME HYPE SHIT!!!!! The scene where the eldians are turned into titans was soo disturbing. Also, the cg wasn't nearly as bad as some people were making it out to be. I will admit there were some wonky af shots but overall it was a damn good effort, these next few months are going to be a treat and i am here for it!!!!!

[u/digbicks845]

“You son of a whore”

Lmaooo

[u/Sloppy_Goldfish]

If the animation can be at least this good every episode this i'm ok with this. It was still jarring to see how difficult the series looked (no one can truly emulate WIT's style) but I think I can get used to this after a couple of weeks.

So it looks like these new characters are going to be front and center for more than just the first episode. Bold move to essentially double the amount of living main characters this late in the story. They are really going to make us wait to see Eren and the crew show up again. I think that might have been Jean at the end though? So the crew is definitely there are just in hiding?

It was interesting to see so much anti-Titan tech and how it's super effective even against Armored Titan. It's going to be very different to have these sort of weapons available in the story now. Is 3DMG even relevant anymore?

WWII-era with Titans. This season is going to be fucking nuts.

[u/junejanikku]

I wanna see Armin Colossal mode

[u/MajedTF]

It hasn’t even been 24 hours yet!

[u/Dinoswarleaf]

Holy crap can it actually reach 20k?

[u/mike_2797]

Woah about to touch 20k truly insane.

[u/Freak5_5]

The Op sounds like committing war crimes while enjoying it

[u/Arsenic_Flames]

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[u/nobabtheweeb]

The Karma war of 2021 will be written in history as one of the most incredible anime finales.

[u/PureVII]

I haven’t seen one episode of this series but I think it’s time to start lol

[u/[deleted]]

I feel so honored that I gave the 700th award

My soldiers, thank you

Shinzou sasageyo

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Based DameDesuYo with slightly faster subs than the official ones. Just like S3P2.

New OP is interesting, sad it's not Linked Horizon but this season did need something different tone-wise. Fits with how we have a completely different cast of characters.

Gabi's totally a female version of early-S1 Eren.

OH! COLT'S VOICE! That's Gali-Gali Gaelio Baudwin from IBO! Nice nice, I like his voice. And Falco is Biscuit from the same show!

Yesssss, MAPPA kept the eyecatch info!

My booooooooi I'm so glad to hear Yoshimasa Hosoya as Reiner again. And of course Takehito Koyasu.

Man, I love how MAPPA animated everything. It was kinda hard to tell that the Titans were even in CGI in some spots, an opinion I also had when I watched Dorohedoro like a month ago. I have full faith they have what it takes to handle Attack on Titan S4 and can't wait for more!

Who's the narrator now though? That can't be Armin.

[u/[deleted]]

People complaining about CG, animation and what not but here I am who cannot even tell what is hand drawn or CG. Ignorance is bliss

[u/undernobody]

This blew re:zero 14k karma record out of the water. Rip jjk in the weekly rankings 😭

[u/Mockingbirdguy]

So close to 20K!!!

[u/thismise4u]

We now know the people with the nine titan powers the Marley general said existed in this episode. I'm assuming the white one from the trailers even Marley doesn't know about then.

1. Eren - Attack

2. Eren - Founding

3. Annie - Female

4. Reiner - Armor

5. Armin - Colossal

6. Zeke - Beast

7. Ymir - Unsure of name

8. Unsure of name - Cart

9. Galliard - Jaw

Edit: u/alisonburgersm8 and u/JinglerTingler have made me think I'm wrong on this one. List may not be correct.

[u/HotestGrillNA]

Almost 20k up votes let's gooo

[u/[deleted]]

Soon 20k damn

[u/[deleted]]

Happy 20k!!! Wow. When was the last time an anime has been this hyped up?!?

Is this the closest we’ll ever get to the 2013 AOT hype??

[u/Taurus24Silver]

At last....20 fckin K upvotes

[u/toutoune134]

20k upvotes 5666 comments in less than 48 hours, almost all records are broken.

Looking forward to certain future episodes...

[u/Tsubasa_sama]

Attack on Titan just beat Jujutsu Kaisen's 48-hour karma score in under 2 and a half hours

Edit: and Re:Zero's record in under 10 hours!

[u/[deleted]]

Ofc reiner loses his arm in the first episode lmao. That being said the cgi effects looked relly good. Im interested to see if they can maintain this consitency of animation throughout the season. As long as the animation continues to be solid - the story itself can carry this anime into the status of classic.

[u/Freak5_5]

F.

[u/Seekerofillusion]

Ngl Gabi has got balls of steel.

[u/[deleted]]

Damn, the opening for this season is a banger. Not only that but it gives of this vibe that tells the viewers that were in for a fucking ride. Hajime Isayama is a fucking genius.

Although disappointed with the 16 eps. should be 30 at least, but i think the creators can make a way that this season would be unforgettable.

[u/realrimurutempest]

The OP really has grown on me after listening to it a few times

[u/sim0n2170]

Number 1 discussion post, lets goo

[u/Fhaarkas]

Top of all time and it's still just the confusing (by design) first episode? I know sub inflation and all but damn this season is gonna be on fire. First 20k episode here we come.

[u/Toonamigamerrr]

OMG !!!!!!😱😱😱😱

New characters and everything in this episode blew me away

[u/callmealfred]

Wait guys, I just realised that they are looking for someone to inherit the armored titan because Reiner is coming close on his 13 years!

[u/H-K_47]

The pacing felt super good. These were very action-packed chapters and I thought it was an excellent adaptation. The added touches were great for the atmosphere.

I'm a bit worried how more dialogue-oriented chapters will be adapted though if they continue at 2 chapters per episode. It's too early to judge of course, since we haven't seen them. Just hope they don't cut anything and express everything in an effective and memorable way.

[u/_alua_]

Now we just gotta see how dialogue-heavy chapters will be adapted, and if they get adapted as fantastic as this episode, then I have zero worries regarding this season.

[u/Ihateanimemes]

200 more upvotes to go for 20K, LETS FUCKING GO.

[u/midget_cathy]

20k LETS GOOOOOO

[u/[deleted]]

I'm kinda late on this but jesus christ the ED is amazing, didnt even need to hear it few times. I immediately fell in love with it , hands down the best ed

[u/[deleted]]

WOW. Already the most upvoted episode discussion of all time.

[u/kSIBIGforeheaddebt]

The episode was definitely a 10/10 for me. Preferred the smooth animation to the glossy and polished style from WIT, the colour palette suits this season well.

It started off with the intro that looked like a direct parallel to the intro of season 1 episode 1 with the bird flying , the sky and Eren/Falco's eye. The opening is a bit weird, I don't really know how to describe it, but it captures the essence of an eerie chaotic war horror, with the continuous bombs and the group of soldiers in one shot, and off course I loved the the shot with Eren's titan at the end. The episode mostly gave us insight into Marley's side, and how their military dictatorship works. We got to see the warrior candidates, our boys Reiner and Zeke, and some epic titan action. The OST from the trailer and this episode is probably my favourite out of all but I hope they don't overuse it, we very cool old soundtracks as well.

One more thing I liked was less censorship with Mappa. If it was WIT, I don't think they would shown us the eldian force killing the mid eastern alliance soldiers , they would have implied it by shooting noises or something like that. I didn't dislike the CGI, the armoured titan looked sick and the beast titan though not as good as season 2 , still looked decent. This style is probably better for action scenes.

With the overall setting of the episode and the ending theme with Falco, I feel a lot of this season would be from Marley's perspective, they're trying to keep it grey and not make us root for either Paradis or Marley. As an anime - only , I'm not entirely sure of anything but this definitely was a hype start and by the feel of it , it looks like it is going to get much more complex and intricate than any season before. Attack on titan has been an integral part of my teenage years, and I'm looking forward to its finale more than anything! Sasageyo!

[u/Theleux]

It's that time again!

I am lowering my expectations for this (as I have been for most shows airing this year), so anything that looks pretty good is a nice bonus this time around. So long as the story hits where it needs to I am A-Okay.

I have gotta say that while a lot of the main Titans being CG still is not the nicest thing to have to sit through, they look and move a lot better in this episode than how they did in previous seasons. Maybe the team learned a bit from other series they've had to work on (Dorohedoro for example, not sure if this team is mixed in with that), but the Titans mesh nicely with the backgrounds and other characters, good stuff. Flashbacks to the Colossal Titan and the eye horror that was ;-; We still have those rigid faces on characters for the most part, but there was some decent animation mixed in. Again, I can't go expecting too much what with the situation the world is going through and how that clearly has been effecting productions.

Beyond that, interesting first episode, the current setting is very cool and that train showing up was pretty awesome to see (for how short of a time it was around, haha).

Overall, looking forward to the rest of the season, I just hope people enjoy themselves while not going too over-the-top with hyping everything beyond what is actually capable with this production.

Don't be that guy!

I hope it hold ups for the next 15 episodes!

[u/[deleted]]

Can’t watch, Crunchyroll is down

[u/ANINETEEN]

MAPPA well and truly gave this love 🔥 This episode had all the impact, energy and rawness I wanted. The sound design and score, the art and CGI, the OP and ED were literally all so clean and deep. The constant tension had my heart beating the entire time. Literally just dropped us into a clusterfuck. Gabi doing her thing and then the Jaw Titan, Reiner and Zeke entrance just gave me chills. And damn that ED song and music is just beautifully executed, a perfect breather to process what we just witnessed. This is gonna be one hell of a final ride 😁

[u/Zelkhmet]

Wonder how long till we see Eren

[u/Aileos]

Massive shivers when the titans were falling from the sky.

[u/[deleted]]

As an anime only, I'm kinda confused who to root for which means they nailed down that aspect of war really well. This season is gonna be amazing.

[u/[deleted]]

CG Titans look AMAZING! It'll take some time to get used to Beast Titan's CG but, overall, everything looks stunning!

[u/autumnsnowflake_]

This was so epic that I’m feeling super emotional right now. Goose. Bumps. We were all worried for nothing, Mappa is doing such an amazing job and the animation is beautiful.

[u/[deleted]]

this thread going crazy

[u/[deleted]]

Wow so close to 20k 🤯 AOT IS LIFE

[u/Khronify]

Man i'm going to be so depressed once this anime ends. Nothing else comes close to its level in storytelling, action, and ESPECIALLY music imo.

[u/[deleted]]

Alright! 20,000 upvotes!

[u/WeebSeenIt]

If anyone is interested in having a weekly discussion somewhere else too me and my friend have a podcast where we talk about a few different on going anime ( including AoT right now obviously ) and we would love more people to be included :) If all you are interested in is Attack on Titan then there are timestamps to skip right to it, link in bio or pm me :D

[u/sabyte]

Hype for episode 2

[u/imreallybored00]

Aot continues to evolve with each new season

[u/KK-Hunter]

So first off, fuck this fucking show.^/s Can already tell they're gonna get us attached to these Marley Eldians before having them fight the Paradisians(?) so that it fucking hurts. And they've already done a good fucking job with that by showing how completely brainwashed everyone is, even the regular Marley citizens since they think the Marley army won the war when absolutely everyone that fought (that we saw) was an Eldian soldier. Seeing the Warrior candidates also makes Reiner, Bert, Annie, etc. even better in retrospect since it makes them even easier to sympathise with (Reiner's "if only I didn't know people like this existed" or whatever vs Gabi thinking of all the Paradisians as Devils like he did initially).

FUCKING ZEKE'S TITAN POWER IS COOL AS FUCK BUT ALSO SO BROKEN. I KNOW WHY THEY NEED THE FOUNDING TITAN BUT LIKE, WHO NEEDS THE FOUNDING TITAN.

Titans with/vs modern tech is fucking cool. Lost my shit at mobile fortress Platypus Cart Titan lmao.

Time skip was expected, but still crazy to see. Reiner looks sexy as hell, and Zeke's not too shabby either. Art and animation are great so can breathe a sigh of relief there. More CGI but not too bad. The Beast Titan is the only bit where I was a bit "ehhh" with. Not garbage or anything and I can allow it but hope it's a bit better in the future.

ALSO I FUCKING KNEW IT, STARTING OFF WITH MARLEY POV. Whole episode though, damn.

Edit: Also the indication that Marley citizens are just as brainwashed as the Eldians. Being told that the Marley army won the war when literally every soldier we saw was Eldian. Great.

Edit 2: This ep made Zeke underestimating Levi despite being warned about him a lot more understandable too.

The man's used to going up against heavy artillery, fortresses, entire naval forces, etc. Walks into Paradis like "this'll be a breeze. Aww swords and horsies? That's cute."

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"Is that a fucking beyblade?"

[u/[deleted]]

As an anime only viewer, what can I say except HOLY SHIT THE NEW SEASON IS GODDAMN AMAZING! THE WAIT WAS 200% WORTH IT!

[u/Eesti_pwner]

I kinda dismissed the OP on my first watch.

Now I can say that this OP makes me feel quite uneasy. Like very uneasy. Like the entire OP was screaming: WAR!!!!

Considering the situation this ep set up: marleyans hate eldians, eldians hate marleyans (both sides probably somewhat justified, although eldians are the one being opressed atm), this OP seems to indicate that full on war is coming. Which most likely will not solve anything and possibly only change the side being opressed yet again.

Anyways, this OP is definitely unique. The visuals seem a bit too simple but the song is definitely good. The tone shift seems very deliberate.

Also, what is up with that nuke in the OP. Is Armin going to blow up something important?

As always: I have no idea what is actually happening, haven't read the manga. Please don't spoil anyone.

[u/jomohoe]

Tfw crunchyroll crashed the second the episode went live, why live.

[u/Illuminastrid]

Jesus christ, almost 18k karma and it still keeps rising

[u/Lekaetos]

Fuck the people who will only bitch about CG

Episode was 10/10

[u/[deleted]]

Funimation had months to prepare and this shit still broken lmaoo

[u/Si7koos]

I hope it touches 21k

[u/Atario]

I, uh… oh my

Only in retrospect do I realize she bopped him on the head with a grenade

Nice mask!

Hm, technology has its advantages

How dare they fire back!

Welp that blew my hair back!

[u/Kiboune]

I'm glad they used music from trailer, during titans landing, it means it's a part of official OST

[u/Yrimir]

Just leaving this here to say I was here PogU

[u/Eijun_Love]

The ED is so beautiful, I think the most beautiful actually. That Phoenix and the tree of lights/coordinate just look so pretty.

PURE BOI FALCO DESERVES ALL THE LOVE TOO

[u/thismise4u]

I won't lie, I miss the drawn titans. Season 4 looks great and the CGI titans are definitely a step up from the CGI Colossal of WIT, but there was just something special about the drawn titans.

[u/edwardjhahm]

HOLY SHIT!!!

This episode is brilliant. I love WW1, so seeing some sweet WW1 style action was beautiful. The worldbuilding, from the trains, the cannons, the uniforms, and the unique titan deployment operations, it's all so interesting! I'm very interested in all the new factions. I really, really, hope we'll get to see more. And I wonder who that sus guy is at the end.