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Episode Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Episode 69 discussion
Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season, episode 69
Alternative names: Attack on Titan Final Season, Shingeki no Kyojin Season 4
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
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| 60 | Link | 4.65 | 73 | Link | 4.67 |
| 61 | Link | 4.57 | 74 | Link | - |
| 62 | Link | 4.71 | |||
| 63 | Link | 4.77 | |||
| 64 | Link | 4.9 | |||
| 65 | Link | 4.73 | |||
| 66 | Link | 4.92 | |||
| 67 | Link | 4.81 | |||
| 68 | Link | 4.67 | |||
| 69 | Link | 4.53 | |||
| 70 | Link | 4.64 | |||
| 71 | Link | 4.52 | |||
| 72 | Link | 4.79 |
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u/alisonburgersm8 Feb 14 '21
Nice to see the ODM gear Zeke "procured" from Mike in S2E1 becomes relevant again
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u/Luna1345 Feb 14 '21
Oh my god i forgot about that, that makes the scene feel a bit morbid now in retrospect.
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u/Silent_Shadow05 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
Isayama really is a master at foreshadowing. So many moments from the previous seasons has a deeper meaning now.
Also Mike's death still haunts me. It was so brutal. Being eaten alive is one of the worst ways to die.
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u/oB3NoT3Xo https://myanimelist.net/profile/l3en Feb 14 '21
"How dare you guys get so big like that" I fucking love Levi
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u/bluered381 Feb 14 '21
Eren seems so serious and cold now. His entire convo with Hange was scary and disturbing. Especially when he was teasing the transformation
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u/Se7en_Sinner https://myanimelist.net/profile/Se7en_Sinner Feb 14 '21
It's impressive how much control he has over his Titan transformation now. It seems instantaneous and I wonder if he even needs to injure himself anymore to do it.
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u/michhoffman :Ij::Ik::Il:https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Feb 14 '21
I'm not locked in here by you. You're trapped here with me.
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Understandable. Hange and govt has no answers to threats they are facing.
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u/Silent_Shadow05 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 Feb 14 '21
We could see parts of old raging Eren come out when he was conversing with her.
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u/receptionbluex Feb 14 '21
The entire train/cart convo about who gets to eat Eren was heartwarming and horrifying.
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u/Melvis12 Feb 14 '21
True. It's so bittersweet to see scenes with Sasha now, especially scenes that are so happy (like the train/cart). There's a stark contrast between then and now, and the back and forth nature of the flashbacks and present moment really highlight this
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u/Garlicbread10 Feb 14 '21
Levi's salty everyone's getting taller, but he's staying short.
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u/Silent_Shadow05 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
Poor Levi. He'll be an eternal midget.
Also just see how big Eren looks in comparison to Hange during the prison scene. He was close to her height in the past.
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u/michhoffman :Ij::Ik::Il:https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Feb 14 '21
Levi about to go assert his dominance over Zeke again to make up for it
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u/KUKLI1 Feb 14 '21
Armin's the only one who doesn't get that much taller, ironic considering how powerful the two short ones are lmao
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u/FeelsGoodMan243 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheRantMan321 Feb 14 '21
Levi is truly the best tsundere in anime
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u/realrimurutempest Feb 14 '21
I for one love how everyone is bigger than him now but he can still whoop everyone’s ass.
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u/Maame_lade Feb 14 '21
Remember in like season 3 when Hanji was making fun of Eren because he was talking to himself after his flashback? I'm pretty sure at the start of the episode she was trying to do it again, to try and get the 'old eren' back. This time though, she was visibly shaken when she realised just how different he'd become. Similarly, I think Levi kicked Eren in episode 8 and made reference to when he first beat him up because he wanted to bring out the boy he used to be. He was angry and disappointed when he realised that he was no longer the bright-eyed boy he used to know.
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u/NotARedShirt Feb 14 '21
This is a great interpretation of those scenes that I hadn’t considered before.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 14 '21
That awkward moment when Hange catches you talking to yourself.
Also, the "Eh?" staring contest between Connie and Sasha over who would inherit Eren's Titans was hilarious, if heartwrenching considering... well, you know. That scene also gave us precious blushing Eren at least.
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u/Khazu_ Feb 14 '21
The fact that Eren said you are important to me... more than anybody else... and seeing his reaction to Sasha death same way he reacted to Hannes hurts so much.
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Feb 14 '21
blushing Eren
He's not blushing it's caused by the setting sun.
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u/xPlasma10 Feb 14 '21
Mikasa got the Apple store logo on her hand huh
What the hell Mikasa is royalty
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u/capitan_spiff :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/capitan_spiff Feb 14 '21
She has always been the abs queen
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u/Tenroku Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 17 '21
For anyone confused about the two latest episodes and the different jumps between present and past, here's a recap :
Year 851 / 3 years ago :
Marley sends the first survey fleets to report what's going on in Paradis. By chance, it is intercepted by the Scout Regiment. On board of those ships are members of a group named the "Anti-Marley Volunteers" which is a group mainly made of conscripts from nations who have been conquered by Marley. This group is under Zeke Yeager's command who apparently has a plan to solve all the problems of Eldians. But for that plan to work, the Founding Titan must come in physical contact with a Titan of royal blood. A Titan specifically, just touching someone who has royal blood won't be enough, all it can do is maybe trigger some memories. Normally, only someone with royal blood can use the Founding Titan but because of Karl Fritz's Vow Renouncing War, anyone with royal blood who inherits the Founding Titan also inherits Karl Fritz's ideology and can't use the Founding Titan to free the people of the walls and retaliate against invaders. However, there's a loophole : if a non-royal holder of the Founding Titan touches a Titan of royal blood, they can unlock the Founding Titan's power without being affected by the Vow Renouncing War.
While a part of the military is reticent to trust Zeke, Hange explains that they need to cooperate with the Volunteers if they want to be able to intercept all the fleets Marley may send in the future.
With the help of the Volunteers and some cooperative Marleyan Prisoners of War, Paradis develops its technology and starts to modernize. They notably begin the construction of a port which has the potential to connect Paradis with the rest of the world.
Seeing how they managed to understand each other and bond with some captive Marleyans, Armin wonders if it may be possible to avoid having to rely on the threat of the Rumbling (= unleashing the millions of titans sleeping inside the walls to crush the world) to keep the world at bay by simply talking and clearing out the misunderstanding that the Eldians of Paradis are supposedly a threat to the world. Eren is more pessimistic and thinks they need to do something to keep the world at bay and buy more time while they find a solution.
Year 852 / 2 years ago :
The port of Paradis is complete and ready to welcome their first visitor : Kiyomi Azumabito, the ambassador of the nation of Hizuru.
The official reason of her visit is to find the long-lost descendant of Hizuru's Shogun from whom the Azumabito family descends : Mikasa. A hundred years ago, Hizuru's Shogun's son was a friend of King Fritz and lived on Paradis Island. Amidst the chaos of the Great Titan War, a child of the shogunate was left behind. Mikasa descends from that person. Hizuru used to be a former ally of the Eldian Empire but fell into disgrace after the Great Titan War. Now you may wonder about Mikasa's wrist tattoo, "did she always have that?" The answer is yes, but actually no. Yes because, in the manga, ever since chapter 5 where Mikasa's backstory was shown, she's had this bandage hiding her mark. But no, because in the anime, she never had that tattoo and instead it was changed to an embroidery, apparently for censorship reasons because tattoos on a child is a no-no. But don't take my word on that, I'm not knowledgeable enough.
I said the official reason for her visit is Mikasa, but in reality she seems more interested by the potential of a ressource unique to Paradis island, ice-burst stones, which would be a real treasure for Hizuru's industries and help the nation restore its former glory. Ice-Burst Stones are used to produce the gas powering the ODM Gear.
In exchange for those ressources, Hizuru will help in the achievement of Zeke's plan to solve the Eldian's problems and assure Paradis' protection. Kiyomi explains that this plan has 3 requirements :
They must carry out a test run of the Rumbling to show its destructive potential to the world by partially unleashing it.
Hizuru will help Paradis raise its military power to an international level, up to a point where they don't have to rely solely on the Rumbling to protect the island.
For the many years it will take for Paradis' military and technology to catch up to the rest of the world, they must maintain the Founding Titan and a Titan of royal blood to be able to activate the Rumbling at all time to protect the island if they're attacked. This would require Historia to inherit the Beast Titan after Zeke's time is up (he currently has less than a year left) and shorten her lifespan. And so that the island doesn't run out of heirs with royal blood who will inherit the Beast Titan after Historia dies, she has to give birth to as many heirs as possible until the end of her 13 years.
Zeke's plan is basically to use the Rumbling as a deterrent while Paradis catches up to the rest of the world and to work, this plan requires Historia and her children to accept sacrificing themselves for the island's protection by inheriting a Titan (the Beast Titan but it could be any titan) and have their lifespan shortened, in addition to the trauma of being bred like cattle and having to cannibalize each other from generation to generation. Historia reluctantly agrees but Eren firmly rejects that plan and demands that they use all the time they have left (until the end of Zeke's term) to look for other solutions. Zeke had 3 years left at that point.
853 / 1 year ago (it's not explicitly stated in the anime, but you can deduce it by the fact Eren says he has 5 years left to live) :
The Survey Corps asked Hizuru to help Paradis open dialogue and trade with other nations in the world, because if Paradis makes other powerful allies, they may not need to rely on the Rumbling for protection. However, Hizuru refuses as they want to be Paradis' only trading partners and have the monopoly on the island's ressources. Plus, the world apparently wants to see Paradis as the root of all evil, because it apparently brings the nations together. Armin wonders why the world is so hell-bent on wanting to see the Eldians of Paradis as devils and Mikasa guesses it's because of fear of the unknown, they know nothing about the Eldians of Paradis. Since no one would trust people whose faces they haven't seen, Hange proposes that they go into the outside world and look for potential allies by themselves, by first establishing a base in Marley and infiltrating from there.
The squad discuss who will inherit Eren's Titans when his term is up, but Eren says he doesn't intend to pass it to any of them, because they are too precious to him and he wants them all to live long lives.
854 / Present :
It's unknown how this plan went, but at some point, Eren apparently left and infiltrated Marley on his own, met Zeke in private, seemingly got on board with his plan which he was firmly against 2 years prior, and forced the Scout Regiment to attack Liberio and bring Zeke back on the island before the end of his term.
The Military Police apparently had planned to feed Zeke to Historia as soon as he came to the island, since they don't trust him, but that plan is impossible to carry out now that Historia is pregnant. By the way, they mention how the father is someone who grew up on the same farm as her and threw rocks at her to get her attention. That was actually shown in her backstory, but was cut from the anime. They only kinda show it in ED4. One of the Military Police guy suspects that Historia's sudden pregnancy is a ploy by Yelena to keep Zeke alive while he's on the island.
Eren and Zeke are detained separately and the army won't let them come in contact until they are certain of their intentions. Hange goes to visit Eren in his cell and tries to ask him why he suddenly decided to act on his own and put the island in even greater danger. Does he not care about what will happen to Historia anymore? But Eren doesn't really answer the question and just tells Hange that he could get out whenever he wants and that she's powerless and out of options.
The Volunteers are also arrested and detained by Pyxis as a measure of cautiousness.
Mikasa, Armin, Jean and Connie also wonder about Eren's actions. Mikasa says that he did what he did because he cares about them a lot. But Jean calls that into question : if Eren cares about them so much, why would he risk their lives by forcing them to attack Marley like he did? Armin proposes that he and Mikasa try to talk to him in and clear out his intentions and understand his actions, because if he can't be trusted, the military could chose to transfer the Founding Titan to someone they trust.
If you have any question, feel free to ask me!
EDIT : Oof, I didn't expect to get this many questions, I'm having a hard time keeping up. Since a lot of these questions are similar, please read the replies of this comment before asking in case someone already asked your question, I will stop answering questions that I have already answered.
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u/Pathogen188 Feb 14 '21
I think the weirdest thing about Zeke's plan is that by all means, he should be the one trying to make as many babies as possible. Historia is only "guaranteed" one child per pregnancy (outside of getting lucky with twins or triplets) and childbirth is still super dangerous for her and the baby. Zeke on the other hand can sire more heirs in a way shorter period of time with pretty much no risk to him outside of STDs I guess.
I'd say maybe Paradis just doesn't want to force their women into having babies because technically Historia would be consenting to it, but the military are scumbags already and it's not like Historia's doing it because she wants to and she was like 15 when the plan was first thought of anyway.
God this topic is icky.
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u/PhoenixFoxington Feb 14 '21
Thanks for this, I have to watch the episode a few times to really get what happened.
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u/swagjunction21 Feb 14 '21
Thank you, now here's someone who can inherit Eren's titan
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u/Biba99 Feb 14 '21
The intensity that conversation between Connie and Sasha carried tho.
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u/Yuriy116 Feb 14 '21
Also, note that Sasha is the only one who admitted that she didn't want to inherit Eren's Titan (and shorten her life as a result).
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u/ExoticSignature :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Jin28 Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
Reiner and Bertolto's reveal scene seems pale in comparison.
We demand Youseebiggirl as the OST!
Edit: u/Lixien went ahead and did it. Check his reply below!
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u/woancue https://anilist.co/user/phosandlux Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 16 '21
The railroad scene was so cute and wholesome
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u/hoochiex21 Feb 14 '21
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u/AxtheCool Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
I legit thought they would have Eren in Titan form carry them because holy they are heavy.
They are around 50 kg (120 lb) per m/yard. She is around 1.8 m tall and the rails are nearly twice her length making them 4 m (a generous approximation). So each one is 200 kg. So in total that is 800 kg.
Unless they are much much smaller, she just broke the deadlift record by twice the ammount
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u/alisonburgersm8 Feb 14 '21
Eren once again proving he's a gentleman by complying with military law and not escaping from his prison cell when he easily could have.
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u/Khazu_ Feb 14 '21
Really like this scene and how annoyed he was cuz of Hange talking all the time around without having any answers when Eren seems to be the only one on Paradis who strenghten his resolve and is following his plan whatever it is.
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u/Pamander Feb 14 '21
I first thought I really liked Hobo Eren and Manbun Eren but then we see longer hair Eren in the like transitionary period between Hobo/Manbun and I am starting to think I just really like Eren.
Secondly Armin's disturbing statement about their last resort being to eat Eren forcefully with the instant scene change to menacing Eren was so well done. What a fucked up situation.
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u/Daksh23 Feb 14 '21
Take a shot for every
TATAKAE
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u/PhoenixFoxington Feb 14 '21
Black out drunk before we even get to the opening song!
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u/yaserafriend Feb 14 '21
Others - We’ll build a base in Marley to attack them from there. Precious Sasha - We’ll taste Marleyan cuisine from there.
Never lose that quality Sasha.
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u/Darkerdead Feb 14 '21
Hange mocking Eren hyping himself up was hilarious lmao
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u/SoulTea :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SoulTea Feb 14 '21
I literally just finished my rewatch of it before this episode and she did the same thing to him when he was going over Eren Kruger's memory and name dropped the show as the name of his titan.
I was dying because she was calling him a chuuni since he's "at that age" as Levi said. Lost my shit when she did it to him again now.
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u/OfficialPrower Feb 14 '21
Looool the way Eren tried to ignore her for a bit, but she was just far too annoying
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Felt like when your mom walks in on you doing weird shit in your room lmao
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u/Silent_Shadow05 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
Eren pulling Hange by the collar and threatening her by almost transforming along with those glowing eyes gave me chills. He is so terrifying now.
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u/nishatti Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
And the eerie sound during that moment. Legit got scared of Eren. So well done on that part
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u/ISilencer101 Feb 14 '21
This may be just me but I think I truly appreciate eren's character now. In a way he represents erwin in that he's going with risky plans that offer them the most benefit. Eren has grown up from his naive "I'm going to kill all the titans perspective". He's embraced that the world is tragic(there is no right or wrong side). He's truly moving forward knowing that his decisions can have negative impacts but he understands that it's the only way to achieve some sort of positive outcome instead of waiting for a complacent death. Everyone seems to be hating eren. I'm no manga reader but looking at things in aot from an objective viewpoint, I don't think eren's actions are necessarily bad. If anything, I would assume erwin would most likely create a plan similar to eren's. Sorry for long ramble lol.
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u/burritoxman Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
Oh god are those Sasha’s parents in next episode’s preview?
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u/H4wx Feb 14 '21
OH MY GOD.
I was like "wait I remember that guy" and now I fucking know from where.
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u/kicksFR Feb 14 '21
Eren: You’re important to me I want you to live long lives
Armin: well, fuck me I guess
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u/SoMuchHatred Feb 14 '21
Unfortunately when it comes to Armin it's a bit late for Eren to do anything.
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u/mrducky78 Feb 14 '21
Ive burnt roasted marshmallows in better condition than Armin. All things considered, that guy is living a long life, 13 years longer than it should have been.
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Feb 14 '21
Sasha: "We can't give it to you because your an idiot Connie. So i'll inherit the titan."
Connie: "But your an even bigger idiot than me"
Eh?
Eh?
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u/FakeMichelAngelo Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 15 '21
I like this frame a lot. It really does show that the Eldians themselves are not immune from racism and discrimination, even while themselves being victims from it. The moment that a power balance exists between two entities, you can expect discrimination and/or oppression. I also loved how Isayama introduced the idea of Imperialism and trade as motivations for cooperation between the two countries. Noble goals and ideological good faith are rare, and Isayama exemplifies how the "alliance" between the two is mostly an opportunistic agreement, mainly from Himuru.
Again great writing. A lot of people have mentioned it already, but Eren's love for his comrades felt very genuine. It is very intriguing as to why Eren is acting the way he is.I personally believe he is trying to shoulder everything and that Sasha's death made him briefly unsure of himself.
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u/michhoffman :Ij::Ik::Il:https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Feb 14 '21
It looks like Sasha’s death and Eren’s misunderstood reaction to it are enough for Jean and Connie to start doubting him. It was also some good writing/directing to put that scene immediately following the scene where Eren was explaining how he didn’t want any of his friends to become Titans so they could live longer. Come on guys. Eren still cares about you.
It also appears that Eren has probably been working with Yelena and Niccolo on some counter measures to Zeke’s Rumbling plan which involves Historia getting pregnant.
And lastly, Isayama, why do you continue to torture us with S-tier Sasha scenes?
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u/Melvis12 Feb 14 '21
Yeah Eren definitely still cares about his pals, even if his cold exterior this season seems to indicate otherwise.
Zeke's intentions seem so uncertain. His plan of using his Royal Blood and Eren's Founding Titan to help out Paradis seems a little too good to be true, but I don't really know what else is up his sleeve
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u/cppn02 Feb 14 '21
And lastly, Isayama, why do you continue to torture us with S-tier Sasha scenes?
He just wants us to suffer.
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u/vyxxer Feb 14 '21
Eren's self hatred makes him laugh whenever he cannot protect anything and feels powerless despite carrying the world on his back.
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u/PhoenixFoxington Feb 14 '21
That lady started licking her lips at the thought of money 😂 She must be related to Mr Krabs
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u/Sane-Ni-Wa-To-Ri Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Feb 14 '21
<3
Why must something so cute make me feel so sad...
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u/yaserafriend Feb 14 '21
Did the titan eating the founding titan seem like Pixis?
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u/mememangimmethetea Feb 14 '21
What Zeke said: I procured it myself What he means: I took this off of the old scout commanders right hand man then had titans eat him.
Rip Miche
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u/HwangOfTheSon Feb 14 '21
Flippin hell, that near-transformation from Eren was terrifying.
Welp, sorry Hange, but Eren's had enough of your experiments ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/eepicprimee Feb 14 '21
Woah, Mikasa finally meeting one of her relatives on her mother’s side and finds out she's royalty.
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u/LuciusEternal198755 Feb 14 '21
Yeah, and everybody will forget about it because of Historia's situtaion.
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u/Yaggamy Feb 14 '21
Historia's pregnancy reveal falls on Valentines Day and it's episode 69Mappa: The whole season's pacing was built around this, all according to keikaku!
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u/PRIME2332 Feb 14 '21
They even faked a new years break to get the dates to line up smh. /s
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u/FeelsGoodMan243 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheRantMan321 Feb 14 '21
Historia got knocked up by some random farm boy, who is not even a character? I thought she would get with eren or one of the scouts.
And she looks depressed as hell in that situation. Something's not right.
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u/yaserafriend Feb 14 '21
Eren went full on Tsundere with his confession with the gang, lol
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u/HellspawnedJawa https://myanimelist.net/profile/HellspawnedJawa Feb 15 '21
It's not like you guys are important to me or anything... b...baka
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u/yaserafriend Feb 14 '21
Poor Reiner, not only can’t he die but has to live to see his crush, wife of his dreams, married to and bearing someone else’s child.
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u/woancue https://anilist.co/user/phosandlux Feb 14 '21
ponytail mikasa is a blessing
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u/PRIME2332 Feb 14 '21
Eren: We need to decide who will get my titan.
Mikasa, almost immediately: ME!
She can't be stopped, she will eat Ereh through any means possible.
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u/toumaxx Feb 14 '21
Who knew biggest shock in this show for me would be Historia being pregnant. Holy fuck that took me by such a suprise i paused it for a long while.
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u/Basic_Requirement561 Feb 14 '21
I'm depressed by seeing the smol and cute historia becoming pregnant. And that too by a fucking farmer
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u/Orrakai :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Orrakai Feb 14 '21
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u/thesagenibba Feb 14 '21
"You all got so big how dare you". Levi dad is so cute!
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u/Xenosys83 Feb 14 '21
Sasha : "You can't inherit Eren's titan, you're an idiot."
Connie : "Eh?"
Sasha : "... I'll inherit it."
Connie : "Well that would rule you out too then."
Sasha : "Eh?"
Connie : "Eh?"
Sasha : Eh?"
Never change guys. Hahahaha. That exchange was so deadpan.
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u/rusticks https://anilist.co/user/Rusticks Feb 14 '21
Everyone's gonna be talking about Historia being pregnant or Eren going so far as to threaten Hange and I'm just over here laughing at Levi being annoyed everyone is now taller than him.
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u/Damarugaki https://anilist.co/user/damarugaki Feb 14 '21
Never thought that despite being an absolute monster, he would be insecure about his height.
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u/RekklesCami Feb 14 '21
Also Mikasa casually flexing her strength in the railroad scene
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u/TatteredTongues Feb 14 '21
WEEKLY REMINDER
BEWARE OF SPOILERS IN YOUR DMs
TURN OFF YOUR DMs IF YOU'RE AN ANIME ONLY!
Dear anime onlies, some assholes are going around DMing spoilers.
Please check the thread below for some measures that you can take right now, but know that assholes are also tagging people in unrelated subs with these spoilers, there's really not much that can be done about that I think...
https://old.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/99ha0s/psa_how_to_avoid_assholes_pming_spoilers/
If you're an anime-only, DO NOT reply to this because you're putting yourself out in the open, so try your best to avoid spoilers in any way you can.
In addition to this, also consider the following:
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Stay safe out there and enjoy the show, cheers!
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u/Luna1345 Feb 14 '21
Seeing Eren and Hanges dynamic change so drastically was hard to watch ngl. Both erens near transformation and hange disarming the situation with some humor felt so true to their characters.
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u/realrimurutempest Feb 14 '21
The fact it was revealed that Historia is pregnant on episode 69 of Attack on Titan. 👀
It hurt to see her go from happy and bubbly to pregnant with the light in her eyes gone.
The railroad scene where they all blush is probably the last time we will see any of them happy 😔
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u/Orrakai :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Orrakai Feb 14 '21
The fact that she may have done it to avoid being forced to turn into a titan is just sad...especially considering the conditions Hizuru set for her to have to spend all of her 13 years as a shifter doing nothing but giving birth to more kids...at least she got pregnant on her own terms here.
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u/Yuriy116 Feb 14 '21
When Monke showed the Azumabitos ODM gear and told them that he procured it on his own, I suddenly remembered how he procured it...
Also, between Elena calling Zeke her God and Kiyomi telling the military to follow Zeke's plan, it must have been pretty awkward for Levi (who has once sworn to kill the guy).
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u/yaserafriend Feb 14 '21
Funny scene lost in the moment, when Levi and Hanje meet the gang laying the tracks: Chibi Levi - how dare you all grow some more?
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u/indiewolf117 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/trustishoes Feb 14 '21
Mikasa is STRONG carrying all those steel beams like wow
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u/NotARedShirt Feb 14 '21
So it seems like Zeke’s plan is a show of force in the same vein of the US nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki: show the world your destructive power and use that as your leverage to stave off attacks. It now makes a lot of sense that Armin’s transformations look like thermonuclear mushroom clouds. It makes me wonder how Marley used the colossal titan in the past to accrue political capital and power.
Eren looks completely dead inside this episode, which makes me think that’s what Levi meant when he said he looked like an underground rat. It’s impossible to tell what someone who has completely resigned themselves to a certain path will do to achieve victory. Pushing forward, I guess
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Feb 14 '21
I love how Hange is sitting there talking shit and Eren's just like, "okay, what are you gonna do about it?"
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u/beyondthegong Feb 14 '21
Holy shit eren looks like a fucking chad
Also its funny how Levi is still short then sad cus its because he was malnourished
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Feb 14 '21
It's time for people to trust every word that the military police say, because we all know they're the most trustworthy source of information, and have never been wrong about anything.
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u/Mahdii- https://anilist.co/user/Mahdi89 Feb 14 '21
Another great 5 min episode.
Now we understand more on why Eren went ahead with his attack plan on Marely. They didn't have the time and he didn't want to sacrifice Historia at any cost, the fate of having to inherit his titan power to someone else and ofc the other countries not willing to negotiate.
So either they wait and develop their technology and doom Historia and her children or whatever Eren is planning on doing.
And the mystery of who is the father of Historia child begins but in anime format.
Also the exchange between Connie and Sasha was so funny.
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u/alisonburgersm8 Feb 14 '21
Having Historia inherit the Beast Titan and passing it onto her children for generations to come would be the most hypocritical thing the Survey Corps could do, when they were the ones who overthrew the old King and Rod Reiss
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u/michhoffman :Ij::Ik::Il:https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Feb 14 '21
Sasha: Since all of you are idiots, I'll have to become the Titan...sighs
Connie: Look who's talking, idiot
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u/ExoticSignature :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Jin28 Feb 14 '21
Sasha: You're an Idiot so nope.
Connie: But you're an even bigger idiot so it's a contradiction, you know?
Sasha: Eh?
Connie: Eh?
Sasha: Eh?
Connie: Sorry, that was a strange thing to say.
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u/kkrko :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/krko Feb 14 '21
Connie and Sasha entered into mindmelting feedback loop of idiocity.
Eh?
Eh?
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u/cyclops274 Feb 14 '21
Eren crazy phase still there. Talking to himself in the mirror like the Joker and getting angry another person questioning his craziness.
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u/NotARedShirt Feb 14 '21
Hange always manages to find him when’s muttering to himself, whether it’s “shingeki no kyojin” or “TATAKE! TATAKE!!!”
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u/KrazyBean94 Feb 14 '21
This episode was the whole reason why it started airing in December. Immaculate planning.
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u/MobileTortoise :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mobiletortoise Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
Attack on Titan Episode: 69
NICE
Air Date: February 14th, Valentine's Day
NICE
Historia Status: Pregnant
NICE
That side I enjoyed seeing the Mikasa x Historia interactions, always good to see those two come out of their shells and act like the teenagers they both are, even if they are now BOTH royalty. Music choices were also top tier this episode.
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u/TSmasher1000 Feb 14 '21
Now it's time for the anime-onlies to join in the argument of who baby-daddy truly is. Also of course they would show Historia pregnant on Episode 69.
The episode really sheds some light onto Eren's actions and why he's not as black and black as some people might have thought he was - he's not the supreme evillord villain or at least even if he is a villain he would be a tragic one who felt forced/compelled to move into the circumstances. At this point in time, Hange is lamenting on how her actions have been useless on negotiating peace with foreign nations and how Eren's actions actually did bring results, although in a terrible, but effective way. At the same time, Eren Yeager is sexy and he knows it has now become the new basement in a kind of way, where his true intentions and thoughts have become an enigma and how we're not sure what he's planning or thinking. All we know is that the man's got plans and he's the one who's really driving the story forward right now.
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u/Psychological_Pop_60 Feb 14 '21
"You dont care what happens to Historia anymore?"
Hange hit my man's nerve💀
Hange really wanted to understand Eren. The main point of the flashback was to show that Eren really cares about Historia and that he didnt want her to inherit Zeke's titan or have children by force. Hange understands the feeling, she doesn't want that for the queen either. But then Eren goes to Marley, attacks the festival and steals WH, bringing Zeke. She says she loses confidence in him, but the opposite is also true. Eren also doesnt trust them anymore.
Hange saw Eren smiling because of her, protecting her and keeping important information for more than a year because he was worried about her. She was obviously confused because she thought Historia was important to him.
Armin, Mikasa, Historia and the others are very important to Eren, but his actions killed a friend and they can no longer understand him. Eren is selfish and is not willing to sacrifice what is important to him. But we cant have everything, can we.
Anyway. "I would give my life if I could change anything, but I'am not ready to sacrifice Historia" Eren hasn't changed about it until today lol
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u/DogmaErgosphere Feb 15 '21
This episode, vital information failed to transmit because of chance circumstances.
Connie didn't see how Eren reacted to Hanne's death, but Mikasa did.
Mikasa didn't see how Eren reacted to Sasha's death, but Connie did.
Because she didn't see the second one, Mikasa failed to connect the two incidents in her mind when Connie brought it up and so now the Squad thinks Eren is a psychopath that found their friends death funny.
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u/yaminoidles Feb 14 '21
FAQ here:
Mikasa’s Tattoo
So, this will confuse many anime onlies but in the manga Mikasa has always had a tattoo since Mikasa’s flashback was revealed. In the anime they changed it to embroidery, this was probably done because they didn’t know it will be plot relevant.
What is the 50 year plan?
The 50-year plan requires Paradis to:
They need a person with royal blood with the power of a titan. Historia or Zeke. Historia can inherit a titan but will shorten her lifespan. Zeke was an enemy not long ago, so they do not trust him.
Use the power of the founding titan by having Eren come in contact with the royal blooded titan. Eren will use this power to threaten the world with the rumbling for at least 50 years. But due to the curse of Ymir, this can only work if Paradis always has the founding titan and royal blooded titan in their possession which must be passed down similarly to how the royal family did in the past.
Historia must have children to pass the beast titan down. The reason they can’t do it now is because they have no idea what happens if a pregnant person become a titan. It may cause Historia to lose her child. So, her becoming pregnant now is delaying the plan.
Next, they need to develop technology to the same level as the other countries. If they can do this, they will no longer be required to rely on the rumbling to prevent their destruction.
Assuming the other countries do not make a nuclear bomb in that time, it is a feasible plan, though it requires the sacrifice of the royal family. Also, Eren needs to touch not eat Zeke, otherwise Grisha could have done it himself after eating Freida.
Armin’s theory
Armin suggests that the military may choose to replace Eren with another soldier who they believe to be more trustworthy. Eren has shown to be untrustworthy as he has intentionally violated military orders and went rogue. More importantly, he has shown to be in favour of Zeke’s plans who they do not trust. To prevent this, he wants to speak with Eren to prove that he is still an ally to Paradis.
Who is the farmer?
The farmer was one the children who threw rocks at Historia as a child when she was living on her family’s farm. This is one of the cut details that was originally in the manga but was never adapted. So, more reason to read the S3 material. The farmer supposedly felt bad and worked as a farmhand where Historia stays and under her coercion, had a child.
If you are confused about when the scene is taking place, please look at the characters hairstyle. It’s also pretty obvious when you consider Eren is in prison in the present so any scene when he isn’t is in the past.
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u/curiousouldoc Feb 14 '21
Episode summary:
Mikasa Royalty?
Historia pregante?
Eren pervert?
Eren embarrassed?
Levi still small?
Nicollo special wine?
Zeke and his books
Armin and the gang backup plan to end Eren?
Precious mining resources in paradis; No wonder they searching for Some Freedom!
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u/Balls_of_Adamanthium Feb 14 '21
How the fuck does this keep getting better and better? If this doesn’t win AOY we riot
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Feb 14 '21
Alright Eren, I can excuse war crimes, but I draw the line at disrespecting Hange.
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u/vipatheart Feb 14 '21
The railroad scene was so sweet and wholesome... that’s probably the last of it for the rest of this series.
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u/iJacobes Feb 14 '21
I don’t ever want this show or series to end. Every Sunday I’m filled with anticipation like back when game of thrones used to be enjoyable.
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u/LuciusEternal198755 Feb 14 '21
Okay… So, are we supposed to believe that Historia – the nominal Queen of the island, who broke her own father’s back when he tried to force her to eat Eren – have succumbed to pressure and just obeyed to some POW?
The ‘love story’ option is equally ridiculous – it was mentioned long ago that this village boy has had a malicious intent (it wasn’t about ‘attracting her attention’) and it’d left Historia traumatized for years. Well, she might’ve forgiven him since but there is a huge distance between ‘forgiving’ and ‘having a child with’.
These theories basically debunk themselves.
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u/Yaggamy Feb 14 '21
Paradis Island: Oh no, the Marleyans are using Eldians as slaves! That's bad and they're evil!
Also Paradis Island: Let's make our new 'guests' build us a train, harbor, blimp, and make them cook new foods for us. They can serve wine at parties too.
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u/ExoticSignature :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Jin28 Feb 14 '21
It's sad how Eren's friends don't know what he has become anymore.
The contrast to the backstory where he confesses his feelings for them is really noticeable, and barely any time has passed or any major event have happened between the two things., except the Marley invasion but Eren was already Daddy Eren before it came to pass so..
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u/Fuiger Feb 14 '21
This episode is living proof of just how dirty Wit did Mikasa's entire character in season 1. From characterization to design.
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u/Xenomex79 Feb 14 '21
We had so much information this episode I need to rewatch again for sure. Also the jail scene was a nice callback to when Hange was making fun of Eren’s “Shingeki no Kyojin” line when he was in the jail cell in Season 3
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Feb 14 '21
Hange interrupting Eren's tatakae moment has to be one of the funniest moments thus far.
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u/Yaggamy Feb 14 '21
Historia: What is my purpose?
Mappa: You get pregnant and live with an unnamed NPC.
Historia: Oh, my God!
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Feb 15 '21
Oh my... This was the one of, if not THE best plot-heavy AOT episode to date in my opinion. That conversation on the small train with Eren proclaiming his love for his friends was beautiful, and the switching between the different years was masterfully done.
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u/ANINETEEN Feb 14 '21
Got to love an AOT political and dialogue heavy episode 👌 Despite it giving us so much context and exposition, it still goes by so quickly. Mikasa having the prestiged Azumabito blood just makes it crazy to me seeing how many people of some level of royalty happen to be gathered together. The way scenes were rearranged in this episode too really did well to juxtapose how much things have changed between the two timelines. The sense of nostalgia I get from seeing the squad be smiley and awkwardly looking out for each other when deciding who will inherit Eren's titan. To the present seeing the tension and sadness between them alongside how cold, on edge and focused Eren is on whatever he's doing. Regardless, I think both come from the same place of love for his friends. That Historia pregnancy is hella unexpected too considering the discussion beforehand. Loving this build up again ❤️
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Feb 15 '21
Sasha has low key more moments now that she's dead than when she was alive.
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u/thesagenibba Feb 14 '21
Alright, another awesome dialogue based episode. My eyes were literally glued to the screen.
Eren yelling at Hange & even going to the point of grabbing her neck is just so not him. I don't get it anymore. I really don't like this new Eren, he's too deep into this, it makes me so sad.
The flashback scenes are insanely wholesome. Eren & Armin both blushing during that train ride was so cute. Eren saying how he feels about his friends was extremely heartwarming. "Because you're important to me more than anyone, so I want you to live long lives." Please don't forget your words Eren. The corps still care about him, I'm sure. This is all just so damn complicated. Conny is rightfully angry & what sucks so much about the situation is Eren wasn't laughing because he found it funny, he was just revisiting an old memory. Just so much miscommunication.
So Historia was going to inherit the beast titan but got pregnant?! I'm super interested to learn more about this.
Zeke's plan has literally caused everything to go awry. I feel like it's complicated the situation more than anything.
As always with AOT, the more we learn, the more questions there are.
Mikasa is holding on to the thought that Eren still cares about them & so am I. I'm really, really, hoping this is all part of his plan & he's acting like this because he has to.
Tatake. Takare!
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u/Laxus2000 Feb 14 '21
Aight that wines pretty sus . Although I would not care if the people who tried to sacrifice historia are killed off
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Feb 14 '21
Huh so they retconned it back to the manga version? I'm sure other manga readers will mention it too but Mikasa always had that tattoo, it's just for some weird reason WIT changed it to a handkerchief.
Look at this little bonding moment between Mikasa and Historia. I'm sure nothing can wipe that lively smile off her face! Nope! Nothing at all! Also blushing Mikasa is a cutie <3'
Ah yes the "make Historia breed as much as she can and use her children as deterrent" until we can catch up to the rest of the world catch up. Yeah fuck off Zeke. While Historia understands the sacrifice needed, of course Eren highly disagrees of that plan.
All of that is bullshit now since at some point Eren is now on board with Zeke's plan. And Historia can't even inherit the Beast Titan anymore because she's pregnant. Who's the father? IDK. As far as we know it's some random dude. But everyone is suspecting this is a plot by Yelena to prevent Historia from eating Zeke.
That entire scene of the gang discussing who gets to inherit Eren's Titan was just wholesome. Eren completely blushing after saying something cheesy and the rest of the gang getting embarrassed too is just hilarious. Remember these faces. This is the last time we see them all together like that.
And there it is. From our perspective, we knew Eren was suffering from Sasha's death but of course Conny doesn't know that and thought that Eren's laugh meant that Sasha's death didn't mean anything to him.
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Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
Okay, anime only here.
Last episode, I said I was afraid for Historia. That meter is way past 10/10 with this episode.
Comments on the episode and my own theories:
I did not expect Historia to have another separate “lover” and for her to be pregnant. What the heck! And she looks a bit... dead inside. What is going on?? As a secret Eren x Historia shipper, this... was not exactly what I thought.
Mikasa is freaking royalty? Did not expect this. I knew Hizuru was going to play a role in this and I thought maybe they were secretly working for Marley with plan against the Paradis with Kiyomi’s appearances with Willy. I thought somehow Mikasa would get caught up in it since she is “oriental/asian” and could leverage their connections somehow but did not think she was royalty.
So I was right that Historia is likely to inheirit the Beast Titan but they are not risking it since she is pregnant. She has become a pawn in the military’s plans and I think she’s figuring out ways to make the best of the situation. I was hoping that included Eren somehow but she has another trusted lover?
I think Eren is still on Historia’s side. And the 104th. He just doesn’t know how to deal with the situation. He really needs to share his thoughts with Armin and Mikasa. The plan to save his precious 104th cannot be a secret between them.
I have a few different somewhat related theories:
Theory: Historia is going to die during childbirth or maybe even be given the titan serum to save her. They mentioned the risky nature of childbirth and there is no way that is not coming into play.
Theory: Eren is going to eat Zeke is he cannot find a way to save Historia from becoming a titan. He is desperately trying to save his 104th members and I think eventually he will do whatever it takes. Even if it means dooming Paradis.
Theory: There was a scene where Nicolo was giving the Marleyan a wine bottle and specifically called out that it was “this one”. There also is a brief scene of Levi’s squad(?) in the forest with Zeke. I get the feeling somehow either being drunk and/or there is something in the wine that allows Zeke to turn them into titans. Maybe it’s his own spinal fluid and he can delay the transformation until he Screams. That means more than a small number of Paradisians are vulnerable. Zeke is going to use that to escape from Levi and do... something. I still cannot tell what the real plan is. Is it to use Hizuru as a platform for Eldian freedom through a deal regarding those Icy Stone Gas resources? It’s not fossil fuels though?
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u/SilentProductionsHD Feb 14 '21
Didn’t think the fact that Eren laughing a little at Sasha’s death would have any impact but here we are. To us Eren’s laugh shows that he still has an actual heart for his comrades but to the actual character’s Connie especially, It seems as though they think Eren doesn’t give a fuck about them. Deep
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Feb 14 '21
I'm so glad i decided to wait for the anime. I would have been so confused with all these time skips if I kept reading the manga. No wonder everyone looked so different during the battle of Liberio. Helps to tell it apart.
I feel really bad for Hange. She's a capable leader but this is too much. I think if Erwin were still around he might be able to navigate the political situation better.
Really disappointing that their first contact with another nation is another attempt to exploit them. No wonder Eren is so pissed. One by one the diplomatic options aren't working out.
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u/rk06 Feb 15 '21
In this week's dose of sadness and trauma, Isayama gives us "pregnant and depressed historia" few minutes after showing her cheerful and smiling.
Never change, Isayama
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u/DadAsFuck https://anilist.co/user/DadAsFuck Feb 14 '21
“eren no ecchi!”
what exactly did hange think was about to go down in that cell?
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u/jstoru216 Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 15 '21
Not that? She faked her reaction to desarm the obviouslly tense situation. What did YOU think go down in that cell?
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u/Xenosys83 Feb 15 '21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cid1vgl9ySs
Look at one of the top comments. Haha.
When a bunch of lads discussing football can bring Attack on Titan references into it's comment section, you know the show's onto a winner.
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u/yaserafriend Feb 14 '21
Other anime like Naruto - Talk no Jutsu is super effective
Our boy Armin wants to try the same - no one listens.
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u/tiour Feb 14 '21
Holy shit the lightning when Eren grabs Hange! Talk about elevating the source material geez.
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u/drogondeg Feb 14 '21
Eren was talking to himself in the mirror in the beginning, wasn’t there a scene way back in season 3 where Frieda was combing her hair and saw someone in the mirror? Is there a link? https://www.google.com/search?q=attack+on+titan+frieda+mirror&rlz=1CDGOYI_enLB606LB607&hl=en-US&prmd=ivn&sxsrf=ALeKk03hO_In1bdmrsof_DM1dWQHH2m_2w:1613340262691&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwinoYnqsOruAhWEZxUIHeixABUQ_AUoAXoECAYQAQ&biw=375&bih=553&dpr=2#imgrc=OQHAtSY8LjvwsM
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u/Abf3l Feb 14 '21
The best part was when Connie and Sasha called each other dumb xD
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u/Momo--Sama Feb 15 '21
I feel bad for Mappa because in the moment of the Mikasa tattoo reveal I thought “what is this eleventh hour retcon bullshit?” but apparently the wrap was a consistent feature of her character design in the manga but not the first three seasons. Damn.
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u/Basic_Requirement561 Feb 14 '21
Am I the only one who thought that sasha wanted to eat eren just because she wanted to taste titans ? God I miss her so much
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u/sKyBlazer08 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/sKyBlazer08 Feb 15 '21
Fantastic episode once again. I am going to cherish those few moments of happy Historia.
Yuki Kaji sounding Godly as fuck with the Eren and Hange scene damn, that scene was very well done. Fuck those interior police fucks dissing Historia like that. Though I wonder if the farmer is really the father.
Ahh yes, that train track scene was fantastic. Eren would do anything for his friends even stomp on the whole world perchance ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). Really looking forward to the next episode.
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u/uncen5ored Feb 14 '21
Well done episode. I love the pacing this arc is receiving so far. Eren’s angry moment with Hange and Connie questioning Eren’s demeanor were the highlights for me. They were moments that feels like the anime executed better than the manga, you truly felt the tension.
I love that MAPPA is accurately capturing the atmosphere of a war drama.
Im intrigued by the rearrangement of scenes
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u/flyingverver795 Feb 14 '21
This was one if the most impactful episodes of the whole show for me, but im not sure why.
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u/ahmedshuvro01 Feb 15 '21
I am surprised to see some here getting mad at connie. I mean what do you expect? Sasha was like his sister, obviously he would be pissed at eren and even more so as he laughed and supposedly joined in Zeke's plan, the same person who turned his whole village including his dad and mom into a titan. I get that some of you wanna fanboy the shit outta eren but chill a little lol. The show even made it blunt af in last episode with the shooting transition as to who was the main catalyst for Sasha's death.
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u/TheMightyKutKu Feb 15 '21
Fuck I just realised the wine Niccolo (who is the only remaining member of the first Marleyan mission as a cook) gave with a sinister face in the middle of the episode is the exact same that Levi's squad is drinking at the end.
Shit, the Marleyan are going to poison them aren't they?
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u/DisastrousGrowth5 Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
Seems like Historia accepted her fate of taking over the beast titan in this episode. That might mean that she is carrying that child so that she later can inherit the beast titan for whatever reason unless there was something that made her change her mind.
On the other hand Eren disagress with this idea and seems like he is working toward a solution where Historia won't have to inherit the beast titan.
I'm curious what Yelena and Eren's relationship is. She seems to admire him just like she does towards his half brother Zeke but something tells me that Eren doesn't seem eye to eye with her. Assuming ofcourse it really was her that convinced Historia to become pregnant which seems to be against what Eren is working towards.
I'm guessing it's not normal "wine" in that bottle Sasha's "boyfriend" were holding up...
Edit: Also I'm really curious if Yelena is related to the absolute unit guard that protected Willy Tyburz family seeing as they are both abnormaly tall.
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u/araxara_ https://anilist.co/user/gabaok Feb 15 '21
Really loving those slower, dialogue packed episodes. Gives us so much new information and so much to think about.
Historia conveniently getting pregnant before Zeke arrives and Eren suddenly being on board with his plan is really odd. The timing of that whole thing makes me want to believe that Eren may be the father, which would blow my mind honestly. Not buying that farmer story either.
I'm a bit sad about the continuity error (on Wits part) with Mikasas tattoo but oh well, it's not the end of the world.
Good episode.
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u/Dragotag13 Feb 15 '21
The perfection as it should be, the monologues, drama, touch of comedy, the politics and conspiracies.
a full information episode, useful flashbacks. and the production is incredibly amazing.
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Feb 15 '21
I still find it sus how protective of historia, eren is. There has to be a reason other than he has a crush
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u/iamkhatkar Feb 15 '21
dont ever talk to hange like that!! ill forget that you are a main character
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u/ISumimasenI Feb 15 '21
Am i the only one who liked the fact that they cut scenes without stating the timelines? i mean if you pay a little more attention it seemed obvious of what‘s happening.
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u/yokoanime Feb 14 '21
Eren asked Hange if she had other plans, it feels like Eren was not just asking if Hange had other plans to deal with him, but also asking her if she had other plans to deal with Marley and the world. You can feel how desperate Eren is now, he tried to find another way to protect his friends and Paradis in the past four years, but only got failed.
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u/SundoWave :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/DaiseeAi Feb 15 '21
I remember reading about Historia in the manga when her pregnancy was revealed. It felt so much more gloomy and depressing. I felt this nauseating awful feeling, just sick to my stomach. Being pregnant and carrying a new life should be a happy thing, but the context surrounding it makes everything twist on its head. Just thinking about the reasons why this situation even came to be makes me genuinely feel physically sick. Even with all the messed up things AoT deals with this is the second most awful thing I've seen in the show, the first being Faye's death.
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u/honestlytbh Feb 15 '21
You've gotta feel bad for Hange. She's smart, but she was always more of a mad scientist type than she was a leader who'd come up with elaborate plans like Erwin or Armin or even Jean. And with the mystery and intrigue of the titans and even the outside world gone now, she pretty much has nothing to chase after anymore and is instead stuck with the infinite amount of stress of trying to wade through this geopolitical mess where her greatest weapon probably isn't even on her side.
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u/Meapcuteee Feb 14 '21
With Zeke's plan:
That's fucked up
What kind of country are you if you use your own queen, her kids and grandkids to basically be slaves?
That's not freedom and it's no other different than what they're experiencing right now(live in a wall surrounded by colossal titans, can't freely travel anywhere around the world....)
So yeah, whatever Eren is planning, i'm in if it'll be better than this or the "let's wait and be diplomatic" of the scouts
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u/galileotheweirdo Feb 14 '21
Oh god oh god. I definitely think there's more to Historia's pregnancy than meets the eye. It's kind of too convenient that she's pregnant so that Zeke can stay alive, right? As that MP guy says. Yelena is in on it, and therefore Zeke and Eren have to be in on it too. Which leads me to think... obviously, the farmhand is not the real baby daddy. He's being used as a coverup for this bigger plan Y/Z/E have in mind.
I really hope we get to learn who the real baby daddy is before this cour ends. Personally, I hope it's Eren, and that it was consensual (maybe even enjoyable? Lol. Happy Valentines!) I hope he didn't force her into it - that would really suck.
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u/cppn02 Feb 14 '21
Second week in a row it is this late. I take it the whiners have won and the thread is intentionally being held back to not drop before the CR release of the episode?
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u/Silent_Shadow05 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 Feb 14 '21 edited Feb 14 '21
Well the thread used to get posted whenever DameDesuYo dropped their version but they were late today, just like last week.
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u/DogmaErgosphere Feb 15 '21
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u/Chaos4139 Feb 14 '21
Holy fuck that scene with Hanji was spooky, Eren does not give a fuck any more lmao
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u/monsieurvampy Feb 14 '21
For a dialogue heavy episode I was totally in the zone. I'm looking forward to next week when Gabi either realizes directly or understands what Reiner said at the dinner table.
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u/someroastedbeef Feb 14 '21
the dialogue only episodes are some of the best episodes of AoT and any anime. god i love this show
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u/UnderCam Feb 15 '21
Tbh I love Eren’s transition from the can-do attitude to this cold, serious guy. Also, Historia’s pregnancy is upsetting. She was so bubbly and bright and now she just seems depressed.
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u/Xenosys83 Feb 16 '21
Looks like this week's episode will finish with around 16.7-16.8k in karma.
Actually an improvement on my prediction of 15-16k this week given the material covered, and not far off last week's episode.
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u/Khazu_ Feb 14 '21
Yeah. Its one of very few sins that was left by WIT studio. In manga Mikasa was always having this bandage to hide the symbol.
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u/KYplusEL Feb 14 '21
And to add a little more to this that original tattoo scene is from chapter 5 and the scene where she reveals it is 107. That's a plot thread Isayama left in waiting for over 8 years!
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u/skyflamez Feb 14 '21
NGL I expected her to pull out that hanky from nowhere LOL since WIT already showed Mikasa without tattoo from the ocean scene. In the manga she has that bandage even by the ocean.
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