Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Episode 65 discussion

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Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season, episode 65

Alternative names: Attack on Titan Final Season, Shingeki no Kyojin Season 4

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Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score
60	Link	4.65	73	Link	4.67
61	Link	4.57	74	Link	-
62	Link	4.71
63	Link	4.77
64	Link	4.9
65	Link	4.73
66	Link	4.92
67	Link	4.81
68	Link	4.67
69	Link	4.53
70	Link	4.64
71	Link	4.52
72	Link	4.79

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[u/eepicprimee]

The ending with the Scouts flying around and Porco being terrified of them was badass.

Love seeing everyone again!

[u/Timelymanner → u/eepicprimee]

Remember what Eren said back in season 1 about the scouts. They are experts at killing titans. Now we have the strongest squad ever.

They survived multiple titan encounters!

Are veterans of Shiganshina!

Have equipment from the military police!

Have two Ackerman!

Fear is no longer in their vocabulary. Marley didn’t know but now they’re going to find out.

Edit: Thank you for the awards.

[u/Armensis → u/eepicprimee]

This scene was what I was looking most forward too! The satisfaction of seeing Porco's arrogance disappearing when the Scouts don't give a flying fuck that he's a titan.

[u/Vanek_26 → u/eepicprimee]

I love the contrast between the two nations - the Eldians/Scouts are feared and attacked for their ability to become Titans - but here we have the Scouts wrecking shit as normal humans, while Marley is dependent on their domesticated Titans (other than Eren transforming).

[u/On_The_Fourth_Floor]

"I'm a titan, but they're coming to kill me!?"

Yeah man, it's kinda what the entire country has been getting good at for 100 years.

[u/Zarerion → u/On_The_Fourth_Floor]

Well really only the past 10 years. Prior to that, the Survey Corps hasn't made any progress whatsoever. They were just heading out, finding a few woods, and dying to Titans.

[u/minouneetzoe]

Of course, Mikasa first word of the season: E R E H

I know it has already been said, but holy shit is Eren ruthless. Jumped straight in the crowd, no regards for collateral.

I had not realised that they had not shown the carriage scene between Willy and Magath. I think it’s better that they moved it, otherwise the previous episode would have ended at a weird moment. It’s also nice they added that scene of Willy giving his farewells to his family. Makes his sacrifice more tragic.

Sasha new haircut is cute.

The Warhammer titan really is wielding a warhammer! pull out crossbow and sword

And finally, midget spinner with the clutch at end. This is all so hype as fuck.

[u/[deleted]]

Warhammer Titan: Do you have any final words?

Eren: Call an ambulance...

[u/Yaggamy]

Ep 5: I wonder what important role the warrior candidates will play in the future because they're getting a lot of character development!

Ep 6: And they're dead now. Never mind...

[u/MerkLJackson → u/Yaggamy]

May I offer you a slightly traumatized Gabi in these trying times?

[u/tiour]

Man, Porco’s utter disbelief at the scouts really puts things into perspective. Marleyan titan shifters are usually completely dominant in the battlefield, so when ONE human poses a threat, you can only imagine how they feel.

[u/HannibalCake → u/tiour]

I was laughing at the Irony because Marley totally created those “demons”. They made their bed, now they have to lay in it.

[u/Xavier93 → u/tiour]

Puts in perspective what Annie did in the forest.

[u/eepicprimee]

I really love the War Hammer Titan’s ability.

The scene with Eren figuring out the shifter’s location was great.

One of my favorite titan designs for sure.

[u/cppn02 → u/eepicprimee]

One of my favorite titan designs for sure.

I love it for how far is strays from all the other ones we've seen so far. It doesn't even have the standard flesh skin.

[u/mohamez → u/eepicprimee]

Eren using his mind while fighting and being strategic, multi-transformations with ease, a cold face.

👈 As expected public enemy number 1 Eren Yeager.

[u/realrimurutempest → u/eepicprimee]

It’s cool to see that Eren has gotten a lot calmer and more analytical when fighting.

[u/H-K_47 → u/eepicprimee]

The effect they did when it created a new weapon was really cool and hype. And seeing it make a crossbow! Wow.

[u/Se7en_Sinner → u/eepicprimee]

The Tybur family should have went for the wireless option.

[u/Sandwich-External]

Mikasa: Eren, you killed civilians, even children.

Eren: Anyways the warhammer titan isn’t dead yet

Eren is so cold and emotionless now

[u/_LadyForlorn → u/Sandwich-External]

Eren: Oh no... Anyways!

[u/Garlicbread10 → u/Sandwich-External]

I was so shocked when he completely ignored Mikasa. He truly doesn’t care anymore

[u/ciabass]

I loved how Porco was so shocked at the end. "This can't be, I'm a titan!". Bitch, survey corps fought nothing but titans their entire lives.

[u/zool714]

S3P2 Ep 6, Floch talking about Erwin : “The only ones who can lay waste to the Titans... is a devil! And if I can bring back the devil, that must be my mission in life! That has to be why I survived like a coward while everyone died!”

S4 Ep 6, Floch talking about Eren : “What we need... is a devil like him”

For those wondering why Floch stuck around. The Survivor’s Guilt in him never left.

[u/cppn02]

Shout out to Jean's boss move when he pulled that Marleyan soldier off the roof with his 3DMG.

[u/Voltage97 → u/cppn02]

And to think he hesitated shooting one of Kenny's squad members at one point, he has come far.

[u/TurbTheCurb]

Zofia inherited the boulder titan

[u/Se7en_Sinner → u/TurbTheCurb]

The forgotten 10th Titan, its main purpose is to plug the hole where the user of the Warhammer Titan is hiding. You had one job.

[u/notnowmyfriend]

Fk man, Udo must have gotten the worst death there. At least with Zofia she got crushed by a boulder immediately and probably didn't suffer. Imagine being stepped on by thousands of people while probably being concious during the first half before dying.

[u/Qwaze17]

The stampede felt really realistic. Hats off to mappa for that one (rip udo)

[u/realrimurutempest]

The way Eren punched the shit out of the War Hammer Titan before it could fully transform was absolutely hilarious. The irony in that Eren is literally traumatizing Gabi the way Reiner & co traumatized him.

It’s been too long since I’ve heard Ereh by Mikasa.

[u/Naskr → u/realrimurutempest]

Eren is guilty of war crimes such as assassinating state leaders, killing civilians and rudely interrupting whilst another character is transforming.

[u/alisonburgersm8]

For those who are confused about Willy and Magath's plan, here is my understanding:

Willy and Magath knew people from Paradis have inflitrated, so they set up the festival to invite Eren & co to reveal themselves and use their "unforseen attack" to Marley's greatest possible advantage. They hoped to:

• Make attending world leaders and ambassadors into tragic victims of the attack in order to rally the world into a united front in the war against Paradis. For this plan to work, Willy himself has to die because other nations would not side with Marley (or would even suspect Willy) if he had been the only world leader who survived the attack. And baiting Eren to attack with the whole world watching reinforces Willy's point that Paradis is the true threat the world should be worried about.

• Sacrifice the high-ranking Marleyan military officials to the attack so Magath would become Commander-in-Chief and lead a military reform. Both Willy and Magath lamented Marley's warmongering and over-reliance on Titan weaponery, and the military leaders were likely to continue down this path. So by killing off the top military brass through Eren, Magath can seize power and reform the military under his paradigm.

And now we can fully decipher the meaning behind Willy and Magath conversation in EP4 when they were planning out the festival:

• "Large-scale demolition required. It has decayed beyond repair." - We need to get rid of the military leaders in charge because they are corrupted and incompetent beyond hope.

• "Congratulations, General. The military is yours." - Magath will be in charge once this is over.

• "It just happend to be me" - Willy knows this is probably the end for him.

• "The house is already infested with rats" - Enemies have infiltrated Marley.

Edit:

Also as /u/ezorethyk2 and /u/Raknel pointed out, by holding the festival in the internment zone, Eldians in Marley would represent the biggest number of casualties, thus showing the world the difference between "good" and "bad" Eldians and hopefully improving the treatment of Eldians around the world.

And another goal of Willy's was to smoke out the Marleyan "conspirators"/"Paradisian sympathizers" working with the enemy.

[u/Shinsekai21 → u/alisonburgersm8]

Yup.

You summed it up perfectly.

Also, one of their goals is to shift the world's animosity from Marley to Paradis. Now Marley can join the "good" side against the evil

[u/thesagenibba]

All we're missing is Hange & Armin & the entire squad is back.

[u/sixthaccountnopw → u/thesagenibba]

oh shit, I just remembered that armin is basically a nuke now

[u/[deleted]]

RIP drunk dude and his wife

Got fuckin no scoped

[u/mohamez → u/[deleted]]

The guy was burden to his last moments.

[u/Fuck_Shinji]

HOLY SHIT the scene where gabi looks at sasha killing the soldiers

[u/Schneizeru → u/Fuck_Shinji]

This is the potato devil Reiner warned you about.

[u/clorox_baratheon]

sad detail: udo lost his glasses so he couldn't see that zofia was clearly dead, and that's why he stayed back and ended up getting himself killed

[u/pinecone4506 → u/clorox_baratheon]

I didn’t notice that, wow I was wondering if he was just in a state of denial.

[u/LotusKarma54 → u/clorox_baratheon]

Bro just seeing Zofia under that rock and Udo trying to save her but dying in the process was so sad :( I really liked both of them

[u/Aozora_KN]

That look on Porco's eyes as he realized the kind of people they were dealing with. -chef's kiss-

[u/emperor_savage]

I still can’t believe eren Dolphin dived from a building 😂😂😂

[u/thecomicguybook → u/emperor_savage]

Me neither, but you cannot argue with the results.

[u/realstrikemasterice]

Twitter post by Yuki Kaiji (Eren's VA)

Everybody came

Yep

[u/shaxos]

.

[u/Arrexus]

Remember in S3 Jean hesitated to shoot to kill humans?

[u/Garlicbread10]

Someone start the “Ereh” count for this season

[u/Wolvve_]

They're dead, every single one of them. And not just the men, but the women and the children, too

[u/Bypes → u/Wolvve_]

I love democracy freedom.

[u/Yaggamy]

Eren kills half the spectators

Mikasa: Are we the baddies now?

Eren: Perhaps.

[u/RedHeadGearHead]

This episode really emphasizes how scary the scouts are. Like, imagine people flying around like that in real life.

[u/evan058311]

I sure enjoyed today’s episode of racism and war crimes

[u/aidree1 → u/evan058311]

Just another day at the survey corps lol

[u/Left-Chance-4564]

Brilliant use of camera movements for odm gear. Liked the WT vs AT.

The story is taking a very brutal turn. Also scouts finally back!

[u/[deleted] → u/Left-Chance-4564]

We already had the scouts killing humans, now they’re killing civilians. Interesting to see Floch’s reaction, he seems very utilitarian between this and getting PISSED over Erwin not being the one to get the Titan serum

[u/Aileos]

Imada, Mikasa.

You guys are so screwed now!

[u/MagnoBurakku]

Warhammer: I’m the most versatile titan ever and we have the manpower to destroy Paradis.

Eren: And I have a Mikasa.

[u/HypeKaizen]

Anybody else get a sinking feeling seeing the cycle of war restart? Gabi's look reeked of Eren's undying rage from Season 1 as he looked over the walls and swore to kill all the Titans. The confusions she feels as she wonders why her comrades had to die, just like Eren until he eventually realized that both sides had little choice but to fight each other.

Not to mention, Eren's cold-hearted dismissal of Mikasa's heartfelt call for him to come back home and stop what he's doing, simply by saying "It's not over yet, Mikasa". He truly is simply moving forward... until the enemy is exterminated.

[u/thesagenibba]

And..... Gabi now has the perfect origin story

[u/Rusik_94]

I just started to like all these new characters and now half are dead. I don't even know which side I am rooting for??

[u/VasimanYT]

I love how you can see Levi standing on the pillar right before the Jaw Titan attacks, totally missed that the first time but he looks so badass

This episode was just so much hype and from the preview it doesn't look like they're going to slow down anytime soon ahaha

[u/alisonburgersm8]

Porco realizing he stands no chance against LEVI ACKERMAN is the most satisfying shit

[u/VeryNiceKapusta]

God damn, Eren took the definiton of an "stage dive" a little too much to heart...

[u/cppn02]

The Warhammer Titan design is just chef's kiss. Survey Corps looking fly as fuck too.

But most impartantly: EREH!

[u/Avscum]

I swear the "to be continued" screen is going to give me ptsd in the future.

[u/rusticks]

Mikasa and Levi being badass

Youtube reactors are gonna have a fun day.

Good to see the gang back.

[u/randomness7345 → u/rusticks]

I love how scared Porco was

[u/Garlicbread10 → u/rusticks]

The scouts looks so sick with their new designs and uniforms

[u/Xehanz]

2 hours, 7k. GG

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

This episode is gonna be a good one, I got so excited I skimmed through the raws because EVERYONE'S BACK, BABY!

To celebrate, I made a mobile wallpaper of everyone's favorite island devil Potato Girl Sasha last night (based it on the manga panel, though, so the details don't completely line up with the anime version). Hope you guys like it~

[u/UnavailableUsername_]

This is attack on titan, where no character is safe.

Zophia and Udo were killed quite fast, the episode didn't focused on them at all.

It's a pity the 2 guards that interacted with the warrior team died too, they were the only 2 marleyans that didn't hated eldians.

I said it when the manga chapter came out years ago and i say it now:

The survey corps look like The Beatles.

I guess that's the fashion of Paradis island now?

It was great to see the sheer horror on Pieck's face when she realized the paradis survey corps were in the island, she is the only one (apart of Zeke and Reiner) that knows the terror of fighting the survey corps. In the world outside paradis, the mere idea of a human going against a titan is ridiculous, in the latest war the middle east alliance needed all the cannons of a warship to fight against them and they still lost.

And at the end of the episode Porco realises the survey corps are the most dangerous soldier forces in the entire world, they are systematically eliminating a military superpower like Marley as if it was nothing.

I expected titan CGI this episode, i totally didn't expected some Jean/survey corps ODM scenes to be CGI too.

[u/Gaurav_098]

Warhammer Titan : Starts transforming

Eren : Oh, what a beautiful sight Punches mid- transformation

All other shounen MCs : Wait, that's illegal!!

Eren is fucking badass now!!!

[u/M_95Throwaway → u/Gaurav_098]

I really liked that actually. Why would you ever give the enemy time to power up in war? Good on Eren for having a brain and just immediately attacking.

[u/[deleted]]

coming in as an anime only, i entirely expected Paradis to be united in a front ideologically in taking on marley. but mikasa asking eren to come home was so shocking to me. what has caused eren to go on this journey on his own? god this series is so good

[u/Aetherdraw]

Eren years ago: Gets the shit kicked out of him in titan form, with only two known kills via 3d Maneuver gear, last one is debatable, since the plan was to capture Bertholt.

Eren now: Fights in a cold, calculating manner, figuring out warhammer's gimmick after remembering how she transformed, then rushes down from top of a water tank to transform in seconds to grab the main body. What a chad.

Also Porco: "This is an Ackermann?!" Yeah, these are the two last, and kicked the butt out of your warriors and Chief 4 years ago. And you wonder that they can kick titan ass while in human form, when who else is there to fight in Paradis but Titans that your gov't kept sending over?

[u/Sane-Ni-Wa-To-Ri]

End card for this episode!

(from official twitter)

MAPPA: Mikasa

(from MAPPA twitter)

[u/ShadowClaw765]

A full squad of grandmaster players go smurfing in silver.

[u/DadAsFuck]

eren popped willy like a senzu bean

[u/greeninator]

That's it, I'm done with this anime. It was so much better when we knew who to root for. But what they've done with Eren's character is completely unforgivable. I was really enjoying this season up to this point too, but I'm really disappointed to see this anime stoop to such depths. Slaughtering innocents is something I can get behind, but attacking your opponent while they're transforming instead of just sitting there and letting them is committing one of the cardinal sins of anime and I just can't support this anymore. You're dead to me Eren.

[u/CacophonyCrescendo → u/greeninator]

Had me in the first half ngl

[u/[deleted]]

Gabi voice actor was great this episode

[u/uncen5ored]

They nailed the horror of a foreign enemy attacking with foreign weapons. Pieck & Porco’s reactions, & even the guards reactions to the scouts and their ODM gear was crazy. Also loved that they didn’t shy away from the implications of Eren’s attack. They showed civilian and children deaths. Poor Zofia & Udo

Enjoyed the Willy scenes in the beginning

I love, love how they’re nailing Eren’s new persona. He seems so cold, unattached, and calculating now.

Mikasa & Levi’s entrances were both badass.

Love how they call eren a usurper. And the demons of paradis panel was one of my favs in the manga

Also, S/O to eren breaking the shonen trope of just watching your enemy transform lol

[u/[deleted]]

We finally have a name for Clitoris-Chan/Emma/Isabella!!

LARA TYBUR!

[u/Sidat]

When Gabi was supposed to inherit Reiner’s Titan but inherited his PTSD instead <<<<<

[u/PortoGuy18]

I am a manga reader. LOVED the episode, but deep down, i know it's going to be a bloodbath in terms of reaction.

[u/cppn02]

Very interesting that Willy knew an attack was imminent and was willing to sacrifice himself for his goal.

I also liked Magath's acknowledgement that there is no good side in this.

[u/mindofay]

Everybody is so hot now goddamn

[u/yaminoidles]

So this week I won't be updating the FAQ since there are no major developments that need answering. You can see the previous FAQ here: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/kujurp/shingeki_no_kyojin_the_final_season_episode_64/gism93w/

Instead, I made a status chart for this and the previous episode to help people recall the characters' names and other details.

https://imgur.com/a/GhRfjRK

[u/thesagenibba]

Oh my god. Where do I start? The entrances, they were all so fucking good. This episode literally blew my mind, I was surprised during every single second.

Eren literally beat the breaks off the Warhammer but it just wouldn't die. To no surprise, Mikasa saves his ass once again. What she said to him was really interesting. "Eren, you've killed children. There is no coming back from this." Eren stayed quiet. I think he's already come to terms with what he has to do.

This episode did a really good job at painting the Eldians of Paradis as actual demons. If you were to start the anime from here, they'd look like the villains.

Rest in peace Udo & Zofia. Such untimely deaths. I'm also wondering what happened to Reiner & Falco.

Moments like this are how you create a villain. Gabi is setting up to be the next Eren. That expression on her face, she isn't joking around.

What an episode.

[u/DadAsFuck]

huge design flaw for a titan to need a power cord

[u/xPlasma10]

Mikasa looked so badass when she blew up the warhammer’s nape and fell in slow mo

[u/Naskr]

Attack On Titan Episode 6: Isabella's fucking PISSED

[u/Tsubasa_sama]

Insane that even with all the controversy surrounding the CG this episode is well on pace to break the karma record again.

[u/NintendoMasterNo1]

The most badass "last words" someone can say - Now, Mikasa

[u/flyingelephante]

There’s a lot of applaud about this episode, but from a first impression, the sound direction was particularly impressive, especially the scene right after the opening. It would be easy to overwhelm that scene with an epic soundtrack that drowns out all the other sounds. But instead it emphasizes the importance of other effects like screams and the mass chaos of the stampede's frantic footsteps. The absence of any music at all until precisely this moment (excuse the low-quality screenshots) when the Attack Titan starts running towards the military officials was perfectly timed and blended with the instant he leaps forward with that burst of speed. After that, the music continues, but it's the voices and footsteps that are still in the foreground.

Likewise during the other action scenes, I think the balance of when to lower the volume of the music into the background, or the moments that feature parts of the soundtracks that are quieter than others, was really well done throughout the episode. It's much more effective than non-stop loud, epic tracks that would lose their effect if there wasn't for the brief but important moments of quiet or near silence.

[u/greyviewing]

This episode pulled off something incredible with Zofia's death. It had me in hype-imminent tension for the first few minutes and then it utterly slams you with what Eren's done. Can't remember the last time a show made me feel two so contrasting emotions at the same time.

I love how raw and realistic the warhammer titan fight felt all the way through - Eren is pretty battle-hardened now, of course he just takes the preemptive strike. The Warhammer titan is almost hilariously overpowered but it's just the right level where it feels as if it's beatable while also being incredibly terrifying for our main cast to fight. Eren being completely impaled, hundreds of feet in the sky on a spear-like tower is an incredible image. And the conclusion of the battle is also really grounded - Eren takes the pragmatic solution after figuring it out. There were no unnecessary theatrics - I can 100% believe this is how the fight would actually happen. (Eren taking a swandive off of a building and transforming offscreen was kind of goofy though, lol.)

The episode is really good at juxtaposing the hype fight scene with the crushing horror of the two dead children that we've come to know for the past 5 episodes. Something in the way Mikasa talks makes it seem like Eren wasn't supposed to go this far, and that he's been separated from his allies for a while, doing his own thing. The fact that they're deliberately playing into Willy's hands makes me think there's a deeper purpose behind this attack than just a political statement and having Eren consume other shifters.

Pieck seeing the ODM gear users was the third gasp-worthy moment of the season for me (first and second being Eren's transformation and Zofia's death earlier.)

It's interesting how strongly motivated Floch is here. I was actually under the impression he might quit the Scouts after how traumatised he was, but I wonder what he considered over the 4 years to make him so strongly motivated against those outside the wall.

I also like Porco's lack of perspective - He's a good soldier, but he has 0 combative experience against humans that aren't terrified of him, and so is far less equipped to deal with this than Pieck, who was basically the MVP of the entire fight in S3P2. (She's also the MVP here, to be honest - if not for her Eren would have ate the warhammer already.)

Going to sit down for a while after that one, and think about all the canonically dead children.

[u/_LadyForlorn]

Talk about character development. Man went from an emotional hot head to a cold calculating strategist figuring out how to defeat a Titan with whole new power that he hasn't seen before. He became exceedingly frightening.

[u/TSmasher1000]

Warhammer Titan: Do you have any last words usurper?

Eren: Omae wa mou shindeiru… I mean do it now Mikasa.

Warhammer Titan: NANI!?

This episode was basically hype giant ass titans fighting. Ereh won’t let the WHT even fully transform before he starts pummeling it. Anime-onlies will soon understand Ereh supremacy.

[u/sophersssss]

I wanted to address Erens character and some comments I keep hearing. First of all, an amazing episode! The cgi did feel off at times but its not like season 3 part 2 cgi was any better. Also note, I'm anime only.

Ok. I keep hearing people say how Eren is this emotionless heartless character. I want to say that I disagree completely (at least on the emotionless part)! Pay attention to his past and what it would be like to have your world crash down on you, he's been dealing with pain all his life, as well as the pain of his predecessors through the titans memories. Also pay attention to his voice and choice of words (yuki kaji is a goat btw!), that is not the voice of an emotionless villain. Just because he's not yelling about his feelings and dreams like a typical Shonen protagonist doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings. His facial expression as well is misleading, don't take his expressions as being emotionless. He's clearly in a lot of pain and he felt every word Mikasa said to him. He knows he can't take it back, but what else can he do but do the job he came for.

After everything Eren has had to face: always feeling too weak to make a difference, witnessing his mothers death, being the cause for your fathers death, indirectly causing the death of many comrades who died protected him, having his fathers memories and witnessing all his sins (which is basically a betrayal to Eren), the betrayals of Annie, Bertoldt, and most of all Reiner, and facing his mortality (and there are many more things I haven't listed here). What else can he do but become emotionally detached and numb himself? Hes not emotionless, he's broken.he

As I said to my friend, don't look at this show with a Shonen mind set, you'll lose sight of all the 'subtle' character moments.

Also there's a reason why the age rating is 16+ or Mature (depending on where you're watching from).

Tldr; Eren isn't emotionless, he's become emotionally detached and numb due to his extremely traumatic youth, not by choice but as a coping mechanism.

Also, by no means am I a psychologist, nor am I trying to diagnose anyone, I'm refuting this notion of Eren I keep hearing.

[u/Kae_Jae]

so are we learning that eren initiated his attack all on his own? mikasa was asking him to go home. they just followed him to save him? holy shit its so good. gonna rewatch it now.

[u/LeonKevlar]

• Mikasa Stitch

You know Willy's plan is bad when Magath himself is trying to be the voice of reason. The dude who sends Eldians to their deaths on a regular basis is concerned about the casualties of possibly ambushing Eren.

I love that this one dude just accepted his death when he saw Eren staring at their seats. Might as well take it. It's not like he'll be able to run away anyway.

RIP Sophia who got crushed by debris and RIP Udo who got trampled by the fleeing crowd. I knew this was coming but it was still pretty sad especially since I really like Sophia's design.

Eren playing it smart by ambushing the Warhammer Titan while it's still mid transformation was so good!

Pieck with the big brain plays and telling the Panzer Unit to follow them. Sasuga Pieck-chan! As smart as that was though, Pieck didn't expect what she saw next. The terror on her face when she realized what was flying above them is just perfect.

And why is the Warhammer Titan called a Warhammer Titan? BECAUSE SHE HAS A MOTHEFUCKING WARHAMMER!

Eren revealing himself is basically a mecha pilot flexing by opening their cockpit. And you know he's flexing because here comes Mikasa with a fucking badass intro!

Seeing the Survey Corps show up behind Magath ala Attack on Titan Season 1 OP is just so fucking cool. And just look at how sexy they are with their new uniforms! Even Floch looks good on it!

RIP Gatekeeper Oji-san. At least he was killed by Sasha who looks so goddamn good in her uniform! She just look absolutely perfect. I've waited for so long to see these new suits in anime form!

Oh and Gabi is basically being Season 1 Eren as she watches the people that she knows die one by one.

I absolutely love how out of everyone, Levi is the only person who is only using blades and is wearing the green cloak.

And yes Porco, be fucking terrified of the Survey Corps. You think you guys had it rough out here? Everyone there has suffered more and almost all are seasoned titan killers.

[u/HotestGrillNA]

This episode was fucking brutal. RIP Zofia and Udo man holy shit, udo really got trampled to death..

Timeskip eren is not fucking around he without hesistation jumped on the marley higher ups and proceeded to crush them to dust and tried to take out the warhammer titan during her transformation.

Two things i didn't like about this episode tho, the CGI for eren's titan and warhammer looked pretty awkward at times. Maybe that's just me tho.

This is minor but Eren's expression in this scene with mikasa. Manga panel vs anime. This is a lighting issue but in the anime he looks more apathetic to what mikasa said than sad. I feel like it adds a bit more nuance to that scene.

[u/Omoshiroineko]

My boy Floch do be looking dummy thicc tho OwO

[u/[deleted]]

Here’s my take on the CG after watching in HQ.

I think everyone’s going to have different opinions on it depending on how much CG content they’re familiar with. I mean, damn I got through early seasons of RWBY you know?

I thought 90% of this episode looked legit really good and I was super into it. Even the CG scouts were mostly quick cuts into 2D action and it blended well. If the series can keep up this quality, I’m really happy.

It’s just that there’s like FOUR closeup shots of the attack Titan that just don’t look great, and the clash with Eren and Porco at the end wasn’t really smooth and looked a little janky.

What’s tough about CG is that it’s harder to hide when it’s rough, as opposed to iffy 2D. It really stands out. So even though most of the episode looked really amazing, my mind can’t help but linger on those iffy shots towards the end.

ABSOLUTELY not a deal breaker. This was such an amazing episode. But this is my breakdown of how effective I think the CG was and the moments where it melted, and even though it’s just a few shots, they stand out and really affect people who just aren’t used to CG

[u/thesagenibba]

last episode it hit 24.7k karma. what are you guys predicting for today?

i think it easily gets to 25k+

[u/[deleted]]

I’m sorry but did anyone else bust out laughing when Eren straight up superman dived into the crowd like wtf lmao

[u/[deleted]]

Porco's reaction is so Good, he's probably only ever just steamrolled his enemies and then out of nowhere these people arrive that have the Balls to actually fight one on one with a Titan. Awesome

[u/[deleted]]

Holy shit that episode went by waaaaay too fast!

The War Hammer Titan power is insane! I figured we wouldn't see Eren defeat her so quickly, but I didn't even think they'd tease the idea of him obtaining the War Hammer. I wanna see Eren obtain all the titans just to see what would happen lol. I am sad that Zofia and Udo died.

Gotta admit, the animation felt pretty weird and...didn't ruin the episode for me, but detracted from it a bit.

The scouts not knowing what Eren was doing and asking him to return to Paradis was an interesting twist. I'd assume they have to be on board with his plan now, considering things are in motion that cannot be undone.

Well, another week-long wait while we keep getting blue-balled by the show again.

[u/JuicyDragonCat]

I like how levi is a boomer

Doesn't like new technology lmao

[u/[deleted]]

So... uh... is that Marleyan general Subaru or something? Dude seems like he's save scumming back to the last checkpoint. He's survived at least 2 attacks that should have wiped him. The first thunder spear and then the bomb later on. =.=

[u/SundoWave]

I know Willy is an antagonist and supposed to be a bad guy but holy shit do I adore that guy. Just knowing it wasn't stage fright he was experiencing, but instead that he knew this was the last thing he'd ever do in life. His whole speech of being crushed under the pressure of being at the helm, regardless of his wishes. That he didn't want to die, that he was born into this world, therefore he deserved to live. These words gain a different depth when you realize he said all of this while knowing he was going to die and there was no two ways about it. He had no choice. He, who should have been the freest man in the world, leader of the most powerful nation, operating it from the shadows, giving him even more freedom, was no different from the people on Paradis, being enslaved by their very own fates. Eren knew this, he felt it, that's why he had that reaction in the last episode as well, but it just so happens that Eren had no choice as well, he isn't free either, so no matter what his personal feeling may be, he has to do what has to be done and that's all there is to it. Even if it includes killing innocent people. None of it is really justified, none if it is okay, but it is what it is, it has been what it has been and it's going to be what it's destined to be. Everybody has their walls, walls that are cornering them in. Nobody is truly free.

[u/rajendraac_13]

I see lots of people on MAL complaining about animation. I am new to anime community and AOT is my all time fav show. Is the animation really that bad as people are complaining it to be?

[u/danguelo]

Well. The hype was worth it.

[u/Icyfire11]

Is it just me that enjoys the dialogue scenes in AoT more than the action?

[u/LightThatIgnitesAll]

Unfortunately, people have already started complaining to the staff on twitter. Even staff that didn't work on the episode.

Attack on Titan fans are kind of toxic now, luckily it's only a minority. It's okay to criticise but not to insult and tag the staff.

[u/rajendraac_13]

Is it only me who keeps coming back to check the upvotes? :p

[u/Lord_Xp]

Here's the results for last week's strawpoll of favorite new characters

[u/Se7en_Sinner]

Eren's most heinous war crime to date is attacking an opponent before their titan transformation finishes. It's like an unspoken rule, I guess Eren is out of fucks to give.

[u/trashbait1197]

I was expecting to see anime onlies getting salty over CGI/animation but it's the source readers crying the most this shit is hilarious.

[u/H-K_47]

Eren going full JoJo on the Marleyan officers and then the Warhammer Titan was hilarious.

"TATAKAE TATAKAE TATAKAE TATAKAE TATAKAE!"

[u/XenXem]

I'm so glad I binged from season 2 to episode 65. THIS IS SO FUCKING HYPE!! IVE BEEN MISSING THIS FOR LITERALLY 6 YEARS

[u/Yaggamy]

Willy was not the Impostor Warhammer Titan!

1 Impostor Warhammer Titan remains.

[u/Xenosys83]

Another really good episode. Direction was great once again. Loved the flashback with Willy and Magath at the start to really clear up any confusion about Magaths "So it's begun" comment last episode, and then the transition into Willy's last moments before being munched on.

The Warhammer Titan looked pretty good for the most part. Wasn't a big fan of the CGI weaponry shots, but was more or less acceptable.

Mikasa and Levi's entrances were superb, especially Mikasa. Loved the accompanying OST. We need more Sawano this season.

Some issues with CG, but nothing too major that took me out of the action.

It looks like MAPPA have made Floch a little different to the manga, where he had more of a horse-face, but I hate the guy anyway.

Not as good as last week but still a very good episode.

[u/bombdropperxx]

Gotta love how the parallel between Gabi and young Eren is working hand in hand.

[u/BellsDeep69]

People need to understand that MAPPA had 10 months to do this because the scheduling committee is god in the anime industry, MAPPA asked for another year to work on it but they were declined, if you want to be mad, be mad at the scheduling committee for fucking over MAPPA and making it where the cant do everything they want.

[u/CaptainRikkai]

My lord, I can't stop rewatching that phenomenal moment when the cannons fired in time with the drums in the music, it was so perfect.

[u/Ljh_]

I don’t like the CGI at all but I’m glad they’re choosing CGI instead of the seven deadly frames approach

[u/matheusdias]

“It’s time, Mikasa”

HOLY SHIT

[u/Khazu_]

Other series just never stood a chance LOL

[u/-SmashingSunflowers-]

Am I the only one who truly doesn't mind the obvious cgi? I am a manga reader and I'm just glad this episode and arc is here. I think it's great quality

[u/Ihateanimemes]

We have officially broken the most comments record in a discussion thread, the previous record was 6243 comments.

[u/Clemenx00]

Wow I'm surprised that this broke 20k karma. DIdn't expect it to come close to declaration of war.

[u/MrMushroom48]

It’s devastating to hear Gabi ask, “why did they have to die.” I feel like it’s a true reflection of reality. Before really going to war, the individual is so focused on the excitement, the glory, the power...until their comrades are killed in front of them. Just like that, they’re wiped clean from the world. This is not some exciting game anymore. You’re not the MC, you don’t get to resurrect with no consequences. War is cold and unforgiving. This is exactly what she signed up for. It’s what the other side has been experiencing for years. It’s incredibly saddening to me

[u/gridemann]

What an episode pretty much perfect from an adaption point of view, we truly do not deserve Mappa. On another hand addressing the elephant in the room without farming too much downvotes. Its a shame they are in a position to have to use this amount of CGI in the first place. Having so many human-CGI models in center-shots just aint a pretty sight.

[u/AvalancheZ250]

Magath: "On this day, we are all devils"

Magath may be fighting for imperialist Marley, but its clear he's more than a one-dimensional villian. He seems concerned about civilian casualities but accepts them if they have pragmatic use. And he clearly knows that he is doing is sin, which is why he told Willy that all of them (Eldians and Marlyeans) are devils. Not by the content of their blood, but by their actions.

I'm surprised that the clear antagonist in the show is being portrayed in such a... not-entirely-evil light, but this is definitely the sort of moral complexity I expect from AoT. Brilliant stuff.

[u/Eesti_pwner]

Just a random scene that came to mind.

Remember at the beginning of S3 part 2, Eren seals the outer gate at Shiganshina and screams :"We are free".

He seemed so determined, focused and even happy at that moment. He knew who his enemy was - Reiner, Bertholdt, Zeke, the titans outside the walls.

Now look at him. Eren just seems resigned to fight, not because he necessarily wants to, but because he feels like he has to. Like he said to Reiner: "I had no choice". He doesn't even think of his enemies as evil. He probably knows he is a bad person for killing so many.

This kind of made me sad.

[u/Abysswatcherbel]

Last episode in 24 hours we had 22.552 upvotes

We are in 22 hours with 21.935, but last week we had a 98% upvote ratio and for the new one we have a 97%

So this episode will probably end the 24 hours with 22.100, to beat the record it needs to perform better in the s2 than last week's, still very impressive for a """"""""""""controversial """"""""""""""" episode

[u/[deleted]]

ayooo... floch???😳😳

[u/XeroPT]

Looking at some comments from other SnK communities, I was afraid of the animation for this episode. After seeing, I have to give congrats to Mappa. They did an amazing job on the action scenes, and really looking forward to next week's episode.

[u/nottoogoodnottoobad]

This is the best anime I've ever watched

[u/Abysswatcherbel]

I swear Aot s4 will bankrupt people in this sub lol

[u/TheMightyKutKu]

23,013 points after 48h, nice

[u/eepicprimee]

As expected, the first thing Mikasa says after showing up is “Erenh.”

Side note: we finally get to hear the line that was in the first teaser for the season.

[u/randomness7345]

While the Titan CGI was questionable at points imo, I still really enjoyed the episode. I hope everyone can agree that MAPPA is doing their best

[u/bakuhatsuda]

CGI was definitely....noticeable, especially on the 3DMG movement, but at this point I've accepted that the rest of the Titan action will be animated this way. Plus, everything else is so damn good that I can't even let it hamper my enjoyment of this adaptation. MAPPA is really nailing the scene direction and pacing of these episodes.

[u/TheMoogy]

Holy shit, everything is just on point.

[u/Havanatha_banana]

This fucking show is both cathartic and uncomfortable as fuck. This is the kind of war that still plagues nations today. The kind of politics that you can read about in today's news. Despite the relative peace we currently have compared to literally the rest of written history, we can still meet countries of people who still holds sentiments like people in these show. None of this "war is dark and bad," shit, cause historically speaking, no matter how many people die, it is also empowering. Hence why it continues to happen. We had a WW2 despite the tragedy of WW1.

Great job, AOT. You've written a genuinely politically dark show with genuinely human characters.

[u/entinio]

The direction and the pacing were perfect! MAPPA really knows to handle any action sequence. This episode was full of little details providing a great feeling of how Marley was completely lost in the pace of the battle. I loved how the islanders were flying around fast like bats. Fighting within a city is really their best batlle field.

I know some people are going to be itchy about the CGI, but the effects have been very well used most of the time. Debating on it is also pointless. Not using CGI would be awful on the staff health and we wouldn't have gotten this last season already without it. Remember Reiner, Pieck, Zeke and Armin, may be even Annie aren't even in this battle (yet?)!

My only disappointment: Sasha wasn't eating while fighting /s

[u/[deleted]]

I hate how once again the Eldians are the ones suffering through all this.

They're the ones getting eaten by titans on Paradis, they're the ones getting gunned down by machine guns and now they're getting slaughtered by Eren and gang.

[u/WeirwoodUpMyAss]

Everyone carrying 2-4 thunder spears and Mikasa carrying like 10 lol

[u/[deleted]]

The way Mikasa talked to him... did Eren go rogue and force Paradise into a war?!

I mean, there would have been war in one way or another... but holy cow, thats dark.

[u/rabiesbabies18]

i miss reiner already hahah

[u/comandoram]

Mikasa- Eren, do you realize what have you done? You killed civilians, even children. What you did is truly unforgivable.

Eren- Damn mikasa, don't disturb me mikasa, I am looking for something.

Mikasa- looking for what eren?

Eren- I am looking for all those fucks, that I had brought for these Marley people. I must have dropped them somewhere.

[u/FakeDaVinci]

And thus the cicle of hate and warfare continues... It is truly fascinating to see a series willfully make the protagonists morally dubious. After seeing the extent which they suffered in Paradis, and the incoming war on Paradis, it is obvious they had no choice. But it doesn't make the reality from the receiving end just as terrible. Innocent people have died as pawns in the master plans of the elites, of the commanders.

The first scene is very interesting. It demonstrates how even "coincidental" occurences that define history are planned behind closed doors, without people ever knowing what was going on.

Eren is terrifying..

[u/CarioGod]

what a fucking episode

all episode I was wondering where was Levi and holy moly they didn't disappoint

I really wish Kenny didn't die, he would be so fucking badass here

[u/gridemann]

Damn we blasted the 20k Karma Mark in less than 14Hours, this season really is built different

[u/sdj93]

Eren chose violence and I support it

[u/BadBehaviour613]

All the other nations are playing on easy. Paradis Island is hard-core survival mode with no respawn.

[u/GGG100]

Am I the only one not bothered by the CGI? It looks great for the most part and the fluidity of the action sequences easily makes up for it. Definitely nothing as bad as Colossal Titan in season 2.

[u/Jes_Us_]

I was going to say that the Warhammer Titans is broken and needs a nerf but then we found out about it's huge weakness

[u/[deleted]]

AoT breaking 20K every week like it's no one's business.

[u/DragonDDark]

Another 20k karma episode. Damn.

[u/y3llowchocolat3]

This episode is like the reverse situation of episode 1 and it is marvelous.

This may be the most well written anime I have seen in my life. I feel lucky to have enjoyed it week by week, savouring the moment.

[u/GioMike]

I can literally watch this episode all day and not get bored of it. Already watched it 4 times.

[u/Armensis]

Udo is now Udone.

[u/[deleted]]

Anime only.

This episode really showed how complacent most of the marley military is. They had an army with titan support while the main characters had to git gud fighting uphill battle after uphill battle. They also didn't take advantage of the intel gathered by Reiner and the others on the maneuver gear. Pieke's look of terror upon seeing the scouts was perfect.

I think the opening also implied rebel groups in Marley were helping them too.

Gabi is the new Eren.

Kenny's anti personnel gear looks bad ass as fuck on the main cast. Lol at Levi still using swords.

Edit: given the number of civilian deaths, I sure hope they have a plan in mind. It doesn't seem like they just want to kill everyone but it should have been obvious it'll unite the world against paradis. Eren seems aware of this based on the previous episode.

Also none of the marley forces or warriors know about syringebowl. They aren't prepared for a second hostile titan.

[u/brodycartwrightt]

I have absolutely no words. This was by far one of the greatest episodes so far. Edge of my seat. The soundtrack was so good and every scene had me shouting. The whole crew is finally back and we had some good fights. AoT is legendary and Isayama is a goat

[u/[deleted]]

Been saving the 3 latest episodes so I can watch it in a row. Just finished watching it now and freaking worth it! Those cliffhanger would’ve kills me although I’m a manga reader.

[u/H-K_47]

About 23K. Pretty good threshold to reach. Didn't cross last episode but it's still the second highest of all time. The episode deserved it IMO, great episode. Let's see how the rest of the season does.

[u/MozartN]

Episode: literally a massacre

146 people: wholesome

[u/javenman]

I have seen no talk about how badass the usage of the lights was. Putting them high makes it so the scouts are almost invisible when coming from the direction of the lights and impossible to distinguish individuals

[u/[deleted]]

Don’t think there is any anime that had made me feel the way Shingeki no kyojin makes me feel. Watched that episode twice and still got goosebumps

[u/H-K_47]

18.9K in 12 hours. There's no ceiling anymore. Eren burst through it.

[u/eoten]

We are already at 6k comments and 19k upvotes!

[u/Sakhi_Osu]

Gabi about to go Eren revenge edge mode after this

[u/juniorg13]

Wow, I really didn't think they could top ep 5 but this one is my favorite episode so far of the season fantastic stuff!!

[u/cxxper01]

Man everyone in the survey corps looks badass as fuck

[u/TatteredTongues]

Dear anime onlies, some assholes are going around DMing spoilers, beware

Please check the thread below for some measures that you can take right now, but know that assholes are also tagging people in unrelated subs with these spoilers, there's really not much that can be done about that I think...

https://old.reddit.com/r/ShingekiNoKyojin/comments/99ha0s/psa_how_to_avoid_assholes_pming_spoilers/

If you're an anime-only, do not reply to this because you're putting yourself out in the open, so try your best to avoid spoilers in any way you can

Cheers.

[u/AussieManny]

So many things struck me as I was watching...

• Eren ate the Tybur Family Head in the hopes that he was the War Hammer Titan. Nice try, but it was his sister all along.

• Eren was able to Titan shift mere minutes after losing his titan earlier. He's gotten much stronger.

• The War Hammer Titan can speak, and its form and abilities are more advanced than any other we've seen. It may be the most versatile and dangerous Titan of them all when it comes to fighting. But she also had a glaring weakness in her strategy, which Eren was able to figure out.

• I couldn't believe of all the crew, Sasha was the one who sniped those soldiers. Jean, Conny, everyone... it's good to see them again, but... it's crazy seeing them act so different and doing what they're doing.

• The Jaw Titan being scared shitless of the Paradis crew was something to behold. "Can't they see I'm a titan?" Yes, yes they can, and they've been training all their lives to fight them.

• Everyone has their new rifle 3DM gear, but Captain Levi stays with the old school.

• Who dis? That anyone?

This city fight is far from over. The Cart Titan is still coming, and somewhere under all that rubble, I'm sure Reiner is going to burst out and fight. And oddly enough... I believe the side with more Titans is the one at a disadvantage.

[u/H-K_47]

15K in under 7 hours. Truly a great feat.

[u/pickapickledpepper]

Haven't seen anyone talk about it but Willy and Erwin are parallel characters. Both being leaders of their respective 'organization', both are aware of the need to sacrifice lives [eg the lives of the innocent eldians, the lives of the rookies in the survey corp] in order to simply win and secure a future for 'humanity', which both individuals had a vastly different interpretation of.

Both of them are great leaders I would say since both realize the need for themselves to be put in the frontline and subsequently die leading their subordinates to death. Both died in the first wave of attack and acted as motivation for those who remain to continue fighting for their own course, which is basically the same, hoping to achieve and recreate a peaceful environment for themselves, but ironically these 2 parties are the cause of each others misery which lead them to be enemies.

Another thing, quite sure that the scene with Willy's family before he got into the cart was not in the manga, made me cared more for the character even tho he was already dead lmao

[u/_LadyForlorn]

Aaaaaaaand BAM!!! 20k in 14 hours. Holy Shit. This ep is going to break the record of the previous ep that broke the record that ep 1 made. Attack on Karma!!

[u/[deleted]]

Keep.. Moving.. Forward! Lets beat 24k!