Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Episode 64 discussion

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Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season, episode 64

Alternative names: Attack on Titan Final Season, Shingeki no Kyojin Season 4

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Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score
60	Link	4.65	73	Link	4.67
61	Link	4.57	74	Link	-
62	Link	4.71
63	Link	4.77
64	Link	4.9
65	Link	4.73
66	Link	4.92
67	Link	4.81
68	Link	4.67
69	Link	4.53
70	Link	4.64
71	Link	4.52
72	Link	4.79

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[u/Garlicbread10]

Willy literally got destroyed 1 second into his war.

[u/Yaggamy]

Reiner: Just calm down Eren, we can solve this matter with diplomacy.

Willy outside: "I DECLARE WAR!!!"

Reiner: Oh for f*cks sake...

[u/GoldenDude]

Wait wait wait...

Did Willy say Eren has access to MILLIONS of COLOSSAL TITANS?!

holy fuck

[u/xPlasma10]

Imagine the people who have no idea what attack on titan is and see declaration of war trending

[u/woancue]

You said you would make sure we would die in the most excruciating way possible. Is that what you came here for?

Oh, did I say that? Please, forget I said that.

This moment was a little funny, but this exchange really shows that Eren has grown. That threat from Season 2 was classic Eren (angry, hot-headed) and for him to forget it is very telling. He's changed for sure.

[u/MOMdad60]

“To the enemy forces of Paradis island, this is a declaration of war”

Goosebumps

[u/matheusdias]

On that day, Marley received a grim reminder

[u/PikachusAnalCavity]

Be careful whose mom you kill in middle school...

[u/receptionbluex]

“His name is Eren Yeager”

I know I’m not the only one replaying that scene over and over

[u/woancue]

"Reiner, we are the same."

"really, so we’re chill?”

"Ahahaha idk about that one chief"

KILLS EVERYONE

[u/alisonburgersm8]

Crunchyroll: The content is intended for mature audiences only.

Bruh we know that already, we had suicide-related content in 3 of the last 4 episodes.

[u/RekklesCami]

Poor Falco just thought he was doing a favour of re uniting some good old friends

[u/Yaggamy]

Falco ep 63: "I'm going to be super useful and deliver letters for this mentally ill war veteran. Maybe reunite him with his old pal Reiner later."

Falco ep 64: "WHAT HAVE I DONE???"

[u/theshinycelebi]

https://imgur.com/ZCxuNtz

[u/mohamez]

Episode 62: [Eren and Reiner's flashback in Paradis]

Eren: How can I get like you and Mikasa? At this rate, I'll die without doing a damn thing!

Reiner: Just do what you've gotta do. Keep moving forward. That's all we can do.

Episode 64:

Eren: I'll just keep moving forward.

[u/Erii1701]

I just keep moving forward

[u/MilkToastKing]

Wait HOLY SHIT, Eren pointed out that they were surrounded by the lives of innocents in the building above them, but still transformed completely unfazed. That's brutal, Eren is pulling no punches.

[u/bluered381]

Calm and mature Eren is so terrifying. His entire conversation with Reiner was crazy. Especially this part:

"Please...kill me. I just want to disappear."

Holy fuck, Reiner.

[u/Xavier93]

Willy Tybur: Guys don't worry, I got a plan.

Willy Tybur left this world.

[u/exozaln]

Holy shit Reiner was SO GOOD this episode

They don't even speak and then Reiner asks "Why are you here" and proceeds to get 8 mental breakdowns at the same time I loved how that was portrayed, very believable.

[u/[deleted]]

Falco this episode: So did I fuck up?! I think I fucked up?!?

[u/eepicprimee]

This interaction is one of my favorite moments for this arc and I’m glad the anime did it justice.

Eren showing his cut hand and how he’s in complete control of the current situation with Reiner’s pure disbelief.

The entire build up to the Declaration of War was so fucking good.

[u/torching_fire]

Falco is going to have deep regrets throughout his lifetime

[u/arafatnabi]

Everything after Eren regrowing his leg was pure hype. I was shaking by the last scene. Reiners breakdown was sad when he realised that out of all the people in the world the only one who understood him was his enemy, the person he betrayed.

Eren forgave Reiner in the end by helping him stand up to his feet because he realised that Reiner was not at fault. But he still had to kill him because of the circumstances. 10/10 episode.

[u/kSIBIGforeheaddebt]

"Across the ocean, inside the walls, they are the same" Beautiful line that signifies Eren's development as a character.

First, he saw the world as black and white, they will kill the titans and achieve their dream of an ideal.

Then when the basement hit him, it changed him as a person, the titans he despised so much were once humans who had dreams similar to him.

Now, he finally spent time under the "enemy's roof", he realized everyone is the same, but he has no choice, but to push forward, to look beyond.

Such masterful writing, I love it.

[u/orangeapple24]

“The same as you”

Absolute chills

[u/Alzeng]

On that day...Humanity received a grim reminder. They lived in fear of the devils from Paradis

[u/Rha_psody]

The world: Declares war

Eren: Instantly retaliates

The world: Surprised Pikachu face

THE WAR BEGINS.

[u/kSIBIGforeheaddebt]

When Willy says "I don't want to die, because I was born into this world', Eren's eyes widen, because he probably thinks he might be similar to him, but then he talks about uniting as one against Paradis, and Eren realizes he has no choice.

Such a subtle beautiful scene!

[u/alisonburgersm8]

Eren really pulled a Shiganshina on Liberio

[u/minouneetzoe]

Hobo Eren DESTROYS depressed Reiner with FACTS and LOGIC.

[u/anusblender]

I thought maybe Eren will try to ally Reiner after all this time... but NOPE. Destroy all enemies!!! Hype

[u/Skywest96]

• S1 S3 Eren : Call an ambulance

• S4 Eren : But not for me.

[u/JW9304]

Anybody else not breathe in the last minute？

That was so tense and hype.

[u/Yaggamy]

\*Willy declares war\*

Eren 1 sec later: "First blood!!"

[u/wintermuteprime]

Willy: I declare wa-

Eren: So anyways, I started blastin'.

[u/DJ_AW03]

See falco, this is why you don't talk to strangers

[u/cornpenguin01]

The conversation between Eren and Reiner is one of the highest points in the whole series. When you think how these two characters were received when the series started to where they are now, the difference is astounding. They’re some of the best written characters in anime period

[u/[deleted]]

🦀🦀WILLY IS GONEE🦀🦀

[u/[deleted]]

I love that Eren doens't hesitate now, remember in season 1 where he couldn't even turn into a titan because annie was his friend? Now he didn't even think twice about killing a kid that he considered a good person, aswell as all the people living above him.

Such a long way, and it's so much better than the classic protagonist that hesitates in doing something and gets someone badly hurt

[u/erickjoshuasc]

Reiner just can't catch a break man. This man needs a Kitkat.

[u/godblow]

That callback to "because I was born into this world"... hot damn, Willy quoting Eren's mom.

[u/-Crux-]

Idk if it was intentional but I love this little callback to Dina Fritz's transformation.

[u/Gaurav_098]

ONE OF THE FUCKING GREATEST EPISODES OF AOT!!!

The direction was great. The buildup was amazing with all the music, VA did an amazing job especially Willy's VA. The animation was also beautiful.

I know some people are not that happy with the Eren transformation OST but that was the same case for Levi vs beast Titan and honestly the OST was NOT EVEN BAD!!

Lastly, it was a amazing episode and an absolute 10/10

[u/PhoenixFoxington]

The eastern lady from the last episode is in the know. Notice while everyone is heading towards the ceremony, she's the only one shown leaving the ceremony.

[u/NiamhHA]

Wow. Once again, I have been reminded of why I consider Attack on Titan to be one of the greatest TV shows of all time. Each moment in this episode was even better than the last. Attack on Titan always has the best cliffhangers.

It was just too perfect, how they hadn’t even started planning on how to take down Paradis, ONLY FOR THE VERY PERSON THEY ARE TERRIFIED OF TO BURST THROUGH THE FLOOR AND CRUSH THEIR LEADER. Eren just cemented himself as the enemy of the world, to them.

I felt so tense throughout the whole episode. At the start, it was because I thought the Eren and Reiner reunion would be the most dramatic part. Haha.

[u/[deleted]]

Eren was like:

Thank you, falco and good bye.

[u/Sane-Ni-Wa-To-Ri]

End card for this episode!

(from official twitter)

MAPPA: F O O T

(from MAPPA twitter)

[u/damageis_done]

Guess fucking over Grice family is a family sport for Jeager family.

[u/[deleted]]

Lady Kiyomi really said GOOD LUCK WILLY and dipped out of there so fast.

I'm really interested to see what role she plays

[u/Shadowbringers]

manga readers with copy pasted essays incoming

[u/bombingrun19]

Ep 4 Falco: ay y'all best friends or sum? 😊

EP 5 Falco: Bruh 😭

That ost leading up to the declaration of war tho, amazing. Eren looks scary af.

[u/Lewis_Parker]

Episode discussion hasn't been out for 1 hour and yet:

Almost 600 comments, A ton of Karma, bunch of awards.

And it isn't available yet in Crunchyroll and other sites. The 20k barrier is looking thin

[u/bombdropperxx]

"I just keep moving forward, until my enemies are destroyed."

It's the same line, but the same Eren just isn't there anymore.

Remember when Eren was a hot-headed idiot who can only scream and shout? Boy do we miss those days.

[u/[deleted]]

I don't know if anyone saw it, but at the slow mo of everyone gaping at eren's transformation someone got straight up smacked by a piece of debris.

Not important but still.

[u/Left-Chance-4564]

Ah yes, one of the most hyped episodes of final season is finally here. Really curious to know how anime onlies feel about reiner-eren after this one.Especially after the "hero" of the story basically killed the innocent civilians in the building while reiner rushed to save falco.

As for the episode itself, absolutely brilliant.I have waited 3 years for this and I wasn't disappointed.Thank you Mappa!

[u/theleebert]

This is my first time commenting here.

I can't remember the last time I was shaking while watching something, be it western live action or anime.

This episode absolutely knocked it out the park. Flawless execution.

[u/_alua_]

Isn‘t it great that the most hyped (so far) episode of AoT is an episode that consists mostly of dialogue? Really shows how well-written this story is.

[u/ragequitx]

Dam theres so many Pieck simps that they're even in the anime itself

[u/Taurus24Silver]

Absolutely Fckin Perfect

AOT has declared war on every single GOAT anime out there.

I got fckin chills at the last scene

Looking forward to next week

[u/[deleted]]

Everyone gangsta until the hobo shakes the hand of his old friend.

[u/flyingelephante]

"Across the ocean, inside the walls... they’re all the same." Eren realizes that all humans, even mass killers like Reiner who he'd hated so much, suffer the same. Living among the Marleyans, he experiences how his enemies are not monsters, but just ordinary people. He no longer holds a black and white view of the world, but can recognize and sympathize with the multi-layered forces compelling Reiner to have destroyed Eren's home and family all those years ago. In a more simple, optimistic story, this sympathy might have convinced Eren to reject continuing the cycle of war and violence, especially that which makes victims out of ordinary civilians like he and his mother had been.

But Eren's affirmation of people's shared humanity does nothing to weaken his resolve to fight for his right to live in this world when Willy Tybur and the world declare war on Paradis. Eren understands precisely what he's doing: becoming the "bad guy" to all the innocent and ignorant people who will now suffer the same way he did as a child.

In fact, his understanding that people are all the same isn’t the usual idealized view of the positive aspects of human nature and the politics that arises from it; Eren recognizes his enemy’s humanity, but as solidified by Willy’s speech against the devils of the island, his enemy doesn’t recognize Eren’s humanity. Making enemies out of one another and fighting each other to live is, too, an impulse that people share. So when pushed into a corner as Paradis now has been with the world’s forces turned against them, he deliberately moves forward to become an embodiment of hell itself for those who wouldn't hesitate to bring hell to Paradis.

[u/[deleted]]

All of the dialogue in this episode was phenomenal...perhaps the best I've come across in an anime...the voice acting to match it too. The storytelling is amazing.

I love the action of S3P2, but this episode had me more hyped than any of that...Reiner admitting his guilt to Eren, Eren lifting him up only to activate his titan powers...this next week is gonna be an even harder wait than the 2 week one we just experienced.

"I keep moving forward...until I destroy my enemies." Chills man...

I really hope Reiner gets to redeem himself to Eldia when all of this is said and done. I've come to really love his character.

Edit: I've watched the final 5 minutes like...7 times now and can't get enough

[u/ezeymoney]

At this point I just feel bad for every other show that has to exist in the same reality as AOT. It ain't fair.

[u/MilkToastKing]

Hold on can someone clarify: Why did Marley initially instigate an attack on Paradis if the Tybur's secretly knew that the King would never attack them?

Edit: So basically

1. The Tyburs knew and were possibly keeping it secret since they were hands-off

2. Marely was behind in the technology race and could have easily decided that grabbing the founding titan and other resources would boost its military prowess

3. We'll continue to see this plot point develop

[u/Voi69]

Today is the day that we manga readers lost the exclusivity to say "You are not ready for Episode 5". This is a day to rejoice!

[u/VeryNiceKapusta]

Ladies and gentleman, I don't use the word "greatest" often. However, I can say, that this was one of the GREATEST anime moments ever animated. The tension in the air, the bulidup towards an tragedy, and the declaration of war. Holy shit, we made it. And it keeps getting after this.

[u/anarchist158]

All those people rn that said Eren has no character development: 🤡🤡🤡

[u/MAQS357]

You all wanna know what makes this episode more impressive?

Specially for a AOT episode and action series in general?

Not only is the fact that it was mostly dialogue, but that the animation itself was not much to speak off.

Usually these episodes that make a huge splash, are action heavy ones, or ones with a lot of sakuga moments, and this episode was completely sakugaless.

Storytelling, art style, acting, direction, these are the things that carried the episode and made it such a great one.

You dont need high quality animation for a great series, what you do need though is everything this episode had.

[u/aniviasrevenge]

Reiner: "Eren... How? Why did you come here [to Marley]?"

Eren: "Same reason you [came to Paradis]"

This episode was directed so masterfully to foreshadow bloody symmetry between what happened in Shiganshina and what is about to happen in Liberio.

We see Falco process dawning dread then anguished betrayal as he slowly realizes this fellow soldier he developed a friendship with is not only no friend of Reiner's, but a foe of Marley-- an echo of the disbelief we saw on Eren's face when Reiner outed himself and Bertholdt as the Armored and Colossal Titans.

Reiner: Annie and Bertholdt tried to turn back and end the mission... but I.. I talked them into it and made them go on! It's my fault! I'm sick of this... of myself! Just kill me!

Eren: offers a hand "Like I thought, I'm the same as you. I think we were born this way. I keep moving forward..."

Look of disbelieving hope on Reiner's face as he confronts the guilt that has tortured him for years-- will Eren be the bigger man here and break the cycle of vengeance?

Eren: "...until I destroy my enemies"

I am... still processing how incredible this was. Masterful.

[u/meeblin]

People keep saying Willy declared a war and then instantly became its first casualty, and while that's funny, Eren transformed in the basement of a heavily populated apartment building. Dozens of people died in the last 30 seconds of this episode, Willy one of the last among them.

[u/[deleted]]

Just a little fucked up detail about this episode is that when Falco was talking about feeling betrayed and lamented that he looked up to “Kruger,” Falco’s specific wording is EXACTLY how Eren felt about Reiner during his time in Paradis when Eren realized he was betrayed by the big brother figure in the 104th - Reiner.

So as an extra little dose of torture for Reiner during all this, he also watched the same horror he inflicted on Eren to be repeated on someone he cares a lot about, Falco, BY the same person he hurt in the first place, which set this shit-show all in motion and adding even more to his guilt and suffering.

Oh, Reiner!

[u/Illuminastrid]

Re:Zero Season 2 Part 2:

Attack on Titan: The Final Season: THIS IS THE DECLARATION OF WAR ON KARMA!

[u/Medeses]

„AND SO I PROCLAIM ON THIS DAY!! TO THE ENEMY FORCES OF PARADIS ISLAND!! THIS IS A DECLARATION OF WAR!!“

„I think we were born this way. I‘ll just keep moving forward... until my enemies are destroyed“

I have waited so long to finally hear this.

This was the most important moment of season 4 in my opinion. If they get this scene right, we can expect the absolute best. If they fail this scene, the entire season could be doomed.

And they nailed it!

[u/calmbeep]

they even animate one of the audience got hit by the debris https://imgur.com/a/LAx7MTL

[u/toutoune134]

Glad to see that animated Eren growing another foot is as disgusting as in the manga! Music was nutty and I'm glad they didn't go with YSBG as some wanted, it wouldn't have fit the scene at all. This episode was one of the fastest one I've ever watched, it felt like it only lasted 10 minutes. Great job from the director, you could fell the tension rise throughout the episode. This episode was bit on the conservative side animation-wise but it didn't reduce the impact of the events. And now the war beginning, looking forward to some good action next episode!

[u/[deleted]]

Reiner’s VA was fucking amazing.

[u/MaouPS]

RIP that dude

[u/thesagenibba]

300 comments already. Yea, this is going to break records ladies & gentlemen.

ARE YOU READY?

FOR DECLARATION OF WAR!

[u/G1596872]

Did Crunchyroll servers crash again?

[u/gold-bandit]

Eren's smile here is so heartbreaking.

[u/iReddat420]

First we thought Falco was gonna inherit Reiner's Armor, but little did we know he was actually supposed to inherit Reiner's crippling depression and self-guilt!

[u/kSIBIGforeheaddebt]

Reiner- Please, just kill me

Eren- No

Willy Tybur- But I don't want to die

Eren- LMFAO ok

[u/[deleted]]

Pieck’s panzer unit: Seal Team Simps

[u/DogmaErgosphere]

Sofia yelping and covering her ears when the trumpets started playing was so adorable.

[u/steven4869]

20K in less than 14 hours. Now let's hit it to 25K.

[u/OtakuKing613]

Ayy, this episode is officially the most upvoted in r/anime history!!!!!! Let's keep moving forward until we hit 30K+ on the 16th episode!!!

And to top it off, AoT has now dethroned Steins;Gate and claimed the number 2 spot on MAL.

[u/[deleted]]

Wait what in the actual fuck, this might be the greatest thing I've ever watched

[u/FakeDaVinci]

To me this is one of the biggest parallels in the story. The will and right to life are two very present conflicts in the world. From the oppression of the titans, to the oppression by other humans, wanting to live is such a simple yet hard thing to accomplish in their world (and ours as well). And the same can be said about the Marleyans and countless other cultures before the end of Eldian supremacy. In the end they all fight their wars for their freedoms, justified or unjustified, there are two sides to every story. No one is truly evil or good.

Also holy shit, I don't think you can find a better rallying cry for unity than this!

Eren is such a fascinating character. He learned and endured so much. He definitely understands the horrible hypocrisy and the depths of cruelty in the world. Understanding that even a sea across, he will find people just like in Paradis. He is able to sympathize with Reiner, who was responsible for the single most defining day in Eren's life. Yet he understands and forgives/understands him. But he chose to move forward, to fight for "his" people at home. Right or wrong he must push forward.

[u/greyviewing]

WE'RE BACK

I'm almost glad for that two week wait, it'll make the wait until next week seem like nothing. Anyway:

The control Eren exerted over the situation with Reiner was amazing. Eren is now perfectly okay with both thinking Falco is a good person, and also being totally ready to hold his life hostage just to talk to Reiner.

so Bertolt's dad is dead. Really drives in that gritty despair for his character. He had one of the most unglamorous deaths ever, and now his family seems to be basically gone. Annie's father is really interesting - can't see him not showing up later given how he correctly believes Annie to be alive.

Pieck and Zofia are cute :)

God, it's insane how much Eren just... understands. He literally has Reiner's entire initial motivation and current breakdown down pat, and understands the nuances of his world likely better than anyone else living in it. Yet he still finds that he has to exterminate the Marleyans. It's both terrifying and amazing to see a character who's so simultaneously motivated towards one goal and yet informed of how singular his own vision is.

Uh, who is that soldier? I assume a Paradisian, but I can't figure it out. I at first thought they were female, but they get referred to as "he". They're blond, but they look too tall to be Armin. Honestly stumped on this one. Pieck has apparently seen him before, so unless it's Armin with a growth spurt i'm clueless.

YES. PIECK FANBOYS CLUB. DON'T DIE. PLEASE

The way Willy's performance slowly turns into more and more of a sincere speech is amazing. I also love the constant cross-cutting between his speech and Eren and Reiner - the tension-building is masterful.

Eren forgetting how edgy he was, lol. Really shows his growth, though.

There's our first big moment, and it was incredible. Can't help but think about how insane this is in-universe - Eren attacks literally seconds after his existence is revealed to the world, and he presumably kills Willy, although I think that he may survive since it was cut off right as he was falling.

A Titan fight next time. It's been four years a while.

[u/[deleted]]

So... what the actual hell just happened? and why is my pp harder than when Reiner and Berthold showed their true colours or when Eren fought Annie in titan form? In fact, why is Attack on Titan so good? I don't want to sound fanboy, but this episode deserves it. And something tells me that next episode is gonna be even wilder

[u/assessmentdeterred]

It's at this point in the story where AOT is confirmed as probably the most well-written and nuanced anime/manga I'm familiar with. It's deeply compelling and directly applicable to the real world international system.

[u/Lewis_Parker]

The episode has broken the karma and awards records, and is awfully close to the comment record all in less than 24 hours. The season has gone up to the second place in top anime of all time in MAL.

Wild times

[u/viece]

has surpassed FMA brotherhood for me

[u/kSIBIGforeheaddebt]

Never thought I'd see something giving me as much chills as "that day" but here we are,

10/10 episode.

[u/Ugowy]

I just rewatched it and and totally speechless...

[u/BetaBoy777]

Can we talk about Eren’s character development? This guy went from your typical shonen protagonist to this...idk even know what to call him. Eren is so cold and calculating but so understanding of other’s pain at the same time. I don’t see how people could possibly say he’s not a top 10 anime character of all time.

[u/HyperSonic6325]

Willy speedrunning losing the war Any% WR.

[u/DieHardGamer_1]

Every episode makes me go, "BEST EPISODE EVER!!". Sorry that is so unprofessional of me

[u/Dawyken]

It seems to me that Eren broke a world record, faster assassination of enemy leader since a war is declared.

[u/[deleted]]

Eren waited until the declaration of war to attack. Wouldn't want to commit a war crime now would'ya?

[u/nobabtheweeb]

Alright where is Eren now in your top mc list?

Mine: Eren Fuking Yeager Lelouch Light Luffy Asta( timeskip)

Eren used to be nowhere near the top 5 but now he's in the absolute top looking down on everyone else. I can't comprehend how much he has grown from that angry teenager we knew. Definitely peak character growth I've seen. I still can't believe how a single episode turned me around so much lmao.

[u/Joker8471]

Masterpiece

[u/XoNtheHAWK]

I just keep voting upwards until all karma records are destroyed

[u/bhupeshpr25]

Week 5 of saving my free award for an AoT episode...

[u/Damarugaki]

Phenomenal episode.

The tension was built up really well during Willy's speech and then it was followed by Eren coming out of the basement which had my blood pumping really fast.

Can't wait for enxt weeks episode

[u/LordKaelan]

Every week we watch anime history be made.

[u/tiour]

I guess it broke the internet again. Multiple sites are inaccessible atm.

[u/[deleted]]

I guess it's 20k again. Holy shit AoT

[u/arcimillio]

1000 Awards reached AOT is back from a break breaking every record left. It crushed its own record of upvotes and awards.

[u/kgold535]

I've never read the manga so I don't know how many differences there are, but, I absolutely love how the final season starts like the very first season, but everyone's roles are essentially reversed. It's such a clever and vengeful way to tell the story. I honestly had no clue that was Eren until they showed him after the credits in episode 3. I can't imagine how hard shit is going to hit the fan.

[u/MozartN]

damn 7hrs in and already at 15k upvotes, wouldn't be surprised if this breaks its premier karma count

[u/PortoGuy18]

Almost 20k in 13 hours. Holy fuck!!

[u/94Temimi]

shocking provide cats support one hungry nail shaggy ink carpenter

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

[u/DadAsFuck]

the face of a man who has experienced euphoria

[u/Xehanz]

This episode is now almost 2 hours ahead of the premiere in the karma race. Absolutely insane.

I now have full confidence in the last 3 episodes reaching at least the range of 20k-25k+. The finale might reach even 28k if done properly.

[u/gridemann]

21k+ Upvotes in less than 24h, damn Reddit, keep it coming. The hype is REAL !

[u/H-K_47]

Seems the 48 hours are all done now. Didn't hit 24K, but was still one hell of a show. Records smashed, which were previously set by the same show anyway.

I am proud to have fought alongside you. Here's to more to come!

[u/Tsubasa_sama]

On course for ~23.5k if it gets the same karma episode 1 did in between hours 14-48. Gonna need a big push to hit 25k but even if it doesn't I'm pretty sure later episodes will break it instead.

[u/arnav1311]

"Eren is judged by the hammer of war". Goosebumps in the preview.

[u/Koolaidkid13]

We broke the record for most commented, most upvoted, and most awarded sheesh. We just keep moving forward

[u/KorraLover123]

I loved the part where Eren burst through the building, and while everyone stared in shock that one person was getting hit in the face with debris.

[u/prashanth_03]

Damn Eren is trending now with over 250k tweets

[u/Fhaarkas]

I've been tracking the karma progress of this episode, and it seems to be on course to end with 23.5k-24k. If the post hasn't fallen off the front page by tomorrow's prime time there's a small chance that it reaches 25k but karma progress rarely deviates from its curve unless something unnatural happens (like that bump at 6k mark, that was when the episode was officially released, probably).

I'm gonna put the high estimate at somewhere around 24.3k, if the post manages to stay on the frontpage by tomorrow morning. In any case the episode will certainly end up in the top 10 posts of all time after the 6 months voting period is over.

[u/Neverx_13]

Where were you when anime was saved?

AOT just keeps moving forward

[u/[deleted]]

So refreshing seeing anime-only reactions to this ep. The manga/meme sub has become an echo chamber of over analysing and seemingly hating on the series, so I’m glad to see people experience this episode, with such enthusiasm and passion.

[u/[deleted]]

Now I know what people meant when they talked about Eren being the best character in AOT, a certified goat

[u/dickyeah1985]

I got home from working a 16 hour overnight shift and put this on. I was exhausted but as soon as the episode started it felt like I was wired. I can’t remember the last time I watched an episode of television with that much tension. Truly awesome.

[u/IJustMadeThis]

This whole episode had me guessing everyone’s intentions until the end. When Willy’s speech took the first turn I thought maybe he somehow got on Paradis’ side in the last 4 years, but...nope.

Madam Azumabito (Easterner, where Mikasa is from) made a point to say hi to Willy before his speech but then left immediately after...she had to have known what was coming.

[u/BlazerionX]

Damn! Not even a day past and already 20k karma? Everyone really wants to destroy that record

[u/SoulTea]

I've never been so hyped for a show in my entire life! Eren has matured so much he's the greatest shounen MC I've ever seen. He actually develops so astoundingly as a character. Likewise you cannot hate Reiner as we all know he was just a kid when he was sent on his mission and just didn't know any better. I truly do feel bad for him. However his suffering isn't over yet!

I've been rewatching it for the 3rd time now while it was on break and just got to S2 Eren battling Reiner. The first time I rewatched it S3 part 1 had just finished. The first few episodes of S4 expanded on foreshadowing from the first few EPs of S1. Isayama is GOAT status in writing. I've heard that he had learned storyboarding over drawing first which is why the art of the manga is rather poor in the earlier parts, but also why the story, foreshadowing, and all is out of this world. Sasuga Isayama. I'm not a manga reader either, I couldn't handle the wait it's already hard enough waiting for episodes! I've definitely joined the Pieck fanclub.

Also, the soldier than Pieck was suspicious of...is that one of our original team? I was thinking Armin but he seems way too tall. Although with his newfound Titan ability...can he alter his height? Hmmm.

[u/uncen5ored]

I’m very glad they didn’t cut Bert’s message in the beginning of thinking that the man just wanted to be judged. It’s a small touch, but it connects with how Reiner pretty much rejected Eren’s excuses and wanted to be judged and even killed. It’s a theme of guilt that I don’t see tackled often.

Actually; the fact that Mappa adapted almost 2 chapters worth of pure dialogue with almost no cuts is amazing. They did cut one thing, but it was probably moved and makes more sense to do so.

[u/[deleted]]

Wow the upvotes 👑

[u/steven4869]

HOLY SHIT, we have reached 1K awards. Thanks to everyone who gave their free awards and paid awards.

[u/kSIBIGforeheaddebt]

We just keep moving forward, until all karma and comment records are destroyed.

[u/Abysswatcherbel]

Record for both Karma and awards officially broken, another historical day for the sub, congratulations to everyone involved!

[u/Xenosys83]

Wow, I had an inclination that this episode would have easily topped 19k, but had no idea it would reach almost 22k in less than 20 hours. Insane karma count.

[u/RazorStrider_Hugo]

More than the talk, the eyes spoke louder words. Who would've thought someone across the ocean had the same pov about not wishing to die for they were born into this world? Willy just struck a chord in Eren then he just had to declare war on his ass.

Reiner though, I'd like to think that Eren gave him enough time to react and protect Falco right before he transformed. His pleas and desire to vanish were a nice callback to Historia choosing to be an enemy of humanity by freeing the crybaby Eren in season 3. Eren truly felt for Reiner and wanted him freed from the guilt that has consumed his sanity. Isayama's such a masterful storyteller.

[u/cxxper01]

Eren being calm is actually somewhat more intimidating

[u/antelope591]

Who would dream that the Eren we saw in S1 would be the Eren we see today. I have an insane amount of respect for Isayama and where he took this story. He could've easily have had just as much success just keeping it vanilla like most mainstream anime. But these last 2 seasons have just been on some next level shit. Amazing stuff.

[u/No_Understanding1247]

Eren really is smart . I gotta say for all the spoilers I heard and some unwanted things I know 'cause of social media . I thought maybe that eren has become someone who doesn't think about anybody else let alone care . But the way he said to Reiner that they're both the same . It just made him one of my favourite protagonists , btw he was already in the list. But he does know that nobody is right or wrong here , except ofcourse those marley higher up in the past and in the present . Both the sides just see the situation from a different angles and perspectives . All the warriors had no choice .But when Willy announced that war he knew he also don't have a choice here , he just have to move forward no matter what. It's sad how he knows the gravity of what he is doing and how many innocent will suffer but nonetheless he has to do it... But I think we still need more time to understand how this eren after this much time thinks and reacts.

[u/PhantomXxZ]

iT wOnT bReAk 2oK!

[u/kSIBIGforeheaddebt]

This will beat every single record, until there is none left.

We just keep moving forward, now that Eren Yeager is here!

[u/MadeOfGoat]

You the absolute evil...

Giving this episode a wholesome award :)

[u/dimchoff]

I am confident now to say that Anime has surpassed TV and film. The tension and juxtaposition between Rainer-Eren/Willy was masterfully done! So much feelings in a single episode, it felt like I was watching a blockbuster in an IMAX cinema. What a show! Thank you Isayama and thank you Mappa!

[u/YagDhuL]

Holy shit this episode had enough tension to snap a person in half. What a masterpiece!

I'm really enjoying the "new" Eren! So calm and collected! He actually empathises with Reiner. Masterfully done character development. Add Falco having a front seat to see both sides of the incoming war talking to mutual understanding, which will only further his internal conflict and wow... I can feel his innocence being stripped away. I just hope he hasn't been squished.

I can't help to feel bad for Reiner, and see Eren as a sort of villain now. At least Eren knows both sides of the story while Reiner was brainwashed before he committed genocide and only learnt the truth after... Even though it's clear that Eren was hoping he wouldn't need to use violence, as he hesitated a bit during Willy's speech when he mentioned he didn't want to die and only attacked after war was declared.

I honestly could just list all the moments on the episode... everything was so meaningful, so important to adding to the overall tension. And yet another huge cliffhanger!! The world's enemy is right in front of the whole world. In spotlight! Surrounded by the world's strongest military!

[u/imreallybored00]

Eren's development is insane

[u/[deleted]]

Eren wasn’t Reiner’s judge. Eren put a mirror in front of Reiner so he could be his own judge.

“I’m the same as you”

[u/Xehanz]

Wait wait wait. This thread is actually GAINING momentum. Most 12k+ episode discussions start dropping on karma per minute after 2 or 3 hours, but this thread is actually accelerating, even though it was alredy growing faster than all threads except AoT S4 ep 1. Lol.

[u/Tsubasa_sama]

The Bunny Girl Senpai clip has been dethroned from the #1 spot - this discussion thread just keeps moving forward

[u/Karl_the_stingray]

Hey, is it just me or did the opening change slightly?? I swear there were a few extra frames of titan transforming

Also, damn. I was just praying for this episode to not end.

[u/AbysmolAngel]

Seen a lot of posts about Eren, but how about a round of applause for our blonde tactician who successfully rounded up the other two warriors.

[u/TheEnergizer1985]

Just watched it for the 4th time lmao

[u/The_Great_Creator]

10/10 Holy crap really intense episode. And the reveals, plot twists, tension, drama, everything was really incredible to see. (The ost choice for the last scene was great, and fit the scene well. idk why the hate). Extremely hyped for the future episodes!

[u/rajendraac_13]

Aot is not just an anime show, ITS A WAY OF LIFE

[u/TeixeiraJRT]

I'm writing this comment jaw-dropped 2 minutes after THE CREDITS ended.

AOT BEST ANIME OR WHAT!?

[u/FeistyKnight]

Just found out some manga readers are hating on the OST used. Wtf? I've never had a scene of a guy talking on stage captivate me as much as it did

[u/HotestGrillNA]

Willy:"I declare war on paradise."

Eren: "Bet."

But all jokes asides, I’ve been waiting on this chapter to finally get animated and holy shit MAPPA you did not miss. I feel like a lot of the comments will talk about how hype the transformation was, but I just wanted to take some time to talk one of my favorite conversations in the series, the conversation between Eren and Reiner during willy’s speech.

Reiner has a lot of trauma due to the events that happened on paradise island. He feels incredibly guilty for what he has done and as we have seen last episode, it’s to the point that he wants to take his own life away. The last thing that Eren told Reiner was:

I gotta make sure to do my best… to make sure you guys suffer and die in the worst way possible.

Those words still haunt him to this day and after finally facing Eren 4 years later, he thinks Eren has come to finally judge him. But he’s wrong, Eren tells him to forget about what he said that day and he starts to sympathize with Reiner. He tells Reiner:

you were still ignorant children... you were taught that the people living on the island are devils. What could you have done to fight that? Your environment, your history... all of that was beaten into you by ignorant adults. You’ve suffered, haven’t you, Reiner? I think now... I understand that.

This conversation shows incredible character growth from Eren. He isn’t the same naïve child that thinks he’s always right.

EDIT:

Also forgot to mention how eren basically had reiner in a hostage situation by showing him his cut hand and that theres a residential area right on top of them. Holy shit eren is ruthless.

[u/R3pN1xC]

Poor Willy only survived 2 episodes lmao. Good old attack on titan killing characters 1 episode after their introduction.

[u/[deleted]]

"We are the same, Reiner."

Eren and Reiner hands down have the best dynamic in the entirety of AoT.

[u/kiddfrommars]

ATTACK ON TITAN GOATED

[u/-yato_gami-]

That end music was so lit , perfectly fit for that part .

[u/Devilo94]

The next 2-3 episode going to be a fantastic battle. You guys are gonna love it

[u/Bromeek]

I really wish to know what is a "good" episode for people that voted this episode is "Bad".

[u/harisaashraf7]

This deserves my free wholesome award

[u/DJ_AW03]

23k barrier now broken 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[u/okbuddybutbruh]

Reiner and Eren are the most well developed characters in AoT.

[u/TSmasher1000]

I think we were all born this way. I just keep moving forward until all my enemies are destroyed. CHILLS!

It’s ironic how Reiner is getting the worst, most painful death possible by Eren refusing to kill him right then and there. Living in itself is painful for our sufferboi. Eren really knows how to tear down a psyche like his granddad and Reiner now and make them have psychotic breakdowns. Falco’s even frightened of him. Now that he’s public enemy number one, he’s literally the most dangerous man in the world still hot though.

I’ve been waiting for that moment to be animated for something like 3 years now and now that it’s finally animated it’s glorious. When it came out it literally felt like a festival where everything was about to implode. All of the thing’s going on in the background and all the enigmatic actions of Eren made it felt as though I was witnessing a huge moment in history unfolding. Damn it was such a treat to read but now that it’s here to watch I can only rejoice.

[u/[deleted]]

Anyone else spam watching all the reaction videos on youtube? Haha. What an episode.

[u/[deleted]]

I binge-rewatched all 63 episodes over the last two days, and man, when Eren said “I don’t stop until my enemies are destroyed” I got the biggest shit-eating grin and cackled

I’ve never smiled that intensely before. ErenDidNothingWrong

[u/comandoram]

EREN DID NOTHING WRONG

[u/Hochseeflotte]

Absolutely amazing. The tension was so thick you could have cut it with a knife. One of the best episodes in the shows history. Only the best of S3 P2 can stand toe to toe with this episode.

[u/VegetoSF]

I cannot remember I was ever so hyped about an Anime. I thought it could not get better than season 3 and now I am sitting here week after week and calling each episode the pinnacle of anime. Holy shit, this is going to be easily my favourite anime of all time.

[u/VariousMeet]

This show is a masterpiece. The look of deep regret by Reiner as he hears about the trauma titans have done on the world, while simultaneously having Eren tell him 'we are here to do the same as you did to us' gives me the biggest boner. Truly the roles have been reversed, and Reiner is now seeing what it feels like to be in the Paradis people's shoes.

[u/JonzieJones]

Neat little detail I noticed during Willy's history lesson is that all of the titans are represented.

[u/solscend]

The writing in this story is the best bar none. The reveals, the symmetry, the consistency. AoT is my all time favorite 10/10.

[u/GoldenDude]

Omg Eren just killed all those people

[u/Fullbryte]

This is one of the most chilling encounters in any story I've experienced. The parallels, reversals and culmination of the narrative setup from Season 1 to this moment is masterfully done. The script, direction, lighting and shadow, vocal performance and sound design were in perfect harmony. The tension was palpable and I was literally on the edge of my seat.

11/10

[u/cashmerefox]

I just realized how badly Eren saying “forget I said that” rattled Reiner. It shows Eren isn’t a hot headed little shit anymore... he’s completely in control and what he’s about to do is completely cold and calculated. I could visually see the chill run up Reiners spine.

[u/aryvd_0103]

Its at 18.7k already.

[u/No_Understanding1247]

Damn... Mappa did it. The last scene which eren transformed , I was so excited. I was about to scream 😂 Man that scene was fantastic . I'm so excited for the next episode . I wonder if they're going to show some action or it'll be about the war hammer Titan only . I'm not a big fan of CGI so if they're going for some action I would like to see how are they going to execute it . But damn I love this show . From story perspective I have to give the crown to Isayama ,this guy's a genius .

[u/Sauike01]

damn 20k as of now?! this isn't even the last😆 i can't wait for episode 16.

[u/space_cowboy27]

We've waited over a year for this to be animated. It didn't disappoint.

[u/Nano201102]

Bruh this ep was so good that it shot this season to top 3 highest rated anime on MAL lmao

[u/CaptainPikmin]

Oh my... 22k! I can't believe it. Is 25k actually a possibility?

[u/kk_213]

This episode was sooo good on so many different levels!!...i don't think i can even explain how psyched i am

[u/alisonburgersm8]

Who tf awarded the auto moderator lmao

[u/jamesnahhh]

Literally perfect.

[u/deproxyacct]

Don't mind me, I'm just reading all these comments while listening to "Attack on Titan Final Season Opening [ My War ] (1 Hour Version). "

[u/[deleted]]

The amount of karma a whole episode discussion has for other anime on this sub, is less than the amount of karma that some of the replies to comments in this discussion have. Truly, the King is back.

[u/thesagenibba]

That confirms it. This is the single greatest anime ever created. Clap it up for Isayama.

HOW IS EVERY SINGLE EPISODE BETTER THAN THE LAST? SERIOUSLY?

[u/flyingelephante]

"This is just a feeling, but I think that man might have wanted someone to judge him."

Reiner had wanted Eren to judge him for his actions, but instead Eren offers forgiveness and understanding. For Reiner who is consumed by guilt and self-loathing, Eren refusing to judge him even while he begs for it is actually the greater punishment that Reiner causes more mental torture than any blame or condemnation would have.

[u/xjustwaitx]

And with this episode, the holocaust parallels abruptly ended. I'm pretty sure Hitler wasn't eaten a second after announcing the final solution.

[u/MundoTundo]

The end of this episode had me questioning who really is the bad guy? What makes Eren (and his comrades) any different from the people on the other side? And I guess Eren answered the question when talking to Reiner: “I’m the same as you”.

10/10

[u/vegetable_offender]

Nearly 15k votes and over 3.5k comments in six hours is insane, but also completely understandable lol I love this show

[u/FeistyKnight]

I took eren saying to reiner that they're "under a building filled with ordinary people" as a warning that he shouldn't transform. Dude then proceeds to do it himself anyway lmao.

[u/Chinbie]

Im just about to watch the current episode but we already have 19k karma upvotes in just 12 hours... lets go...

[u/rhyrhygogo]

That trending got me scared for a bit

[u/XylanyX]

"I am the same as you, i keep moving forward until i destroy my enemies" this is probably my favorite line in the whole series