Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Episode 62 discussion

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Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season, episode 62

Alternative names: Attack on Titan Final Season, Shingeki no Kyojin Season 4

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Episode	Link	Score	Episode	Link	Score
60	Link	4.65	73	Link	4.67
61	Link	4.57	74	Link	-
62	Link	4.71
63	Link	4.77
64	Link	4.9
65	Link	4.73
66	Link	4.92
67	Link	4.81
68	Link	4.67
69	Link	4.53
70	Link	4.64
71	Link	4.52
72	Link	4.79

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[u/bombdropperxx]

This episode has one of my favorite callbacks in AoT. Back in season 1 when Eren first meets Reiner and Bertholdt, this conversation happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzBMcvYP8Tw&t=50

Upon re-watch you'd initially thought they made the story up and Reiner was asking why Bertholdt would bs, but in reality Reinier was confused why Bertholdt would choose to retell the old man's story. The level of attention to detail is insane in this series.

[u/CommandoDude → u/bombdropperxx]

Three Titan shifters were on that hill and we didn't even fucking know back then.

The Founding Titan is right next to Reiner and he doesn't even know.

Holy shit the rewatch potential from this show is so big.

[u/DadAsFuck]

everybody gangsta till bertolt starts sleeping vertically

[u/Garlicbread10 → u/DadAsFuck]

Bertolt’s sleeping positions are something else

[u/TSmasher1000 → u/DadAsFuck]

There's speculation that the reason why he sleeps vertically is because he's haunted by his dreams. The old man that committed suicide by hanging himself looks like what Bertholdt's imitating in his sleeping pose.

[u/GMFan8 → u/DadAsFuck]

His sleeping position is actually a reference to the "Hanged Man" Tarot card. With the old man hanging himself in this episode as well, it's a really meaningful detail.

[u/Voi69 → u/DadAsFuck]

Posting that here for those who didn't remember

https://youtu.be/zdgyTim9sMo?t=45

[u/Medeses]

I really liked how uncensored this episode was. Reiners suicide attempt was completely shown without cutting away and Annie and Reiners fight was even more disturbing than in the manga.

[u/yaserafriend → u/Medeses]

I was worried and holding my breath for Reiner to trigger his titan transformation from the injuries.

[u/nakulane]

The cut across the wall of Eren and Reiner's POV was really well done.

[u/LeonKevlar → u/nakulane]

"I wish something interesting would happen..."

Poor young Eren doesn't know how interesting things were about to become.

[u/alisonburgersm8]

Keith: Why are you here?

Reiner: To save humanity!

No lies detected

[u/mohamez → u/alisonburgersm8]

How innocent we were back then.

Each one has his version of humanity he wanted to save.

[u/CrazyK2222]

Marcel really fucked reiner over to save his brother only to die and have his brother be the same titan as him later. Reiner is peak suffering but Marcel got fucked over by life too. Jussayin

[u/Damarugaki]

"We were only kids... We didn't know anything"

[u/sharmarahulkohli → u/Damarugaki]

Every line of Reiner during the reveal makes so much sense

[u/Silent_Shadow05 → u/Damarugaki]

Everything's coming full circle. All his actions and his quotes in the early seasons makes so much sense now.

Also remember what Bertholdt said before he transformed in S3Pt2:

"That's right. Nobody's in the wrong. There's nothing we could do....Because this world is just that cruel"

This is so much meaningful now after what we saw today and from the last few episodes.

[u/NoDespair]

We are also left to wonder how Marcel would have handled the invasion

[u/eepicprimee]

It’s hard not to feel bad for Reiner at this point. The suicide attempt scene was done very well and heartbreaking. If Falco wasn't there at that moment...

[u/realrimurutempest → u/eepicprimee]

To me, it sucks that Reiner doesn’t even have anyone he can talk to about his pain and trauma. If he tried to be open they’d probably say he is betraying marley.

[u/DadAsFuck → u/eepicprimee]

falco came in clutch

[u/14MySterY-]

Marcel: Stamina

Pieck: Intelligence

Bardlot: Marksmanship

Annie: Martial Arts

Reiner: Depression

[u/Speisefisch]

I really liked how they gave that titan showcase at the beginning a bit of a redacted, top secret kinda feel. It made the warriors look like some kind of secret weapons, which they basically are (also, that colossal titan explosion tho).

[u/Eurofighter97]

I‘ve been rewatching the old seasons for the last few days and you can really see how Reiner started liking the people of Paradis to the point he even risked his life to save Conny for example.

Seeing him down this bad hurts ngl.

[u/PRIME2332 → u/Eurofighter97]

Eren mentions it in passing in season 2 how Reiner was basically everyone's big brother and last episode Porco confirms it too when he states how Reiner was trying so hard to be reliable. Big sad for the guy, it seems he really wanted to belong.

[u/Zjgoku]

So the flashback has episode 1 season 1, but from the perpetrators' side...

[u/Garlicbread10 → u/Zjgoku]

That was really cool to see

[u/hoochiex21]

Poor grasshopper. It felt the wrath of the Female Titan's foot (much like Petra).

[u/Damarugaki → u/hoochiex21]

Petra...

[u/Silent_Shadow05 → u/hoochiex21]

Her kick was also so strong that she damaged the wall when she was confronted by Kenny.

I wonder how Reiner withstood several of those kicks to the head lol.

[u/Kizz3r]

Damn that episode was 2 minutes long

[u/Damarugaki → u/Kizz3r]

Time just flies when I watch these new episodes

[u/Medeses]

In case you guys didnt remember: The story of the hanged man is what Bertholt uses as his cover story back in season one.

Crazy how far Isayama has planned ahead.

[u/MOMdad60]

3 things that are certain in life

Taxes

Death

Reiner having depression

[u/Garlicbread10 → u/MOMdad60]

Reiner can’t catch a break

[u/xPlasma10]

The plot armor is so strong that it even protected him from his own suicide attempt

[u/BosuW → u/xPlasma10]

Isayama: Not so fast Rainer

[u/tiour]

This episode was one of the darkest we’ve had so far. Reiner’s characterization is nothing short of amazing. One of the best depictions of guilt i’ve seen. The episode itself was also structured so well. Reiner hitting rock bottom gave me chills. The piano fit perfectly. Despite the cuts, a great episode. Thank you MAPPA!

[u/yaserafriend → u/tiour]

Reiner’s split personality makes so much more sense now - considering he took over Marcel’s role as leader of the warriors, for which he wasn’t trained for and became the de facto “big brother” of 104th South Division cadet corps.

[u/Aileos]

Good timing Falco, your buddy Reiner was enjoying too much that riffle.

[u/Mehulex]

Fuck, that was Eren at the end right ? I mean who else could it be ? He had the same hair and I'm pretty sure the same voice actor.

Edit: he also qouted Reiner and had the same eye color

[u/_Ozilus_ → u/Mehulex]

It is and he's goddamn beautiful

[u/[deleted]]

Eren dropping truths on Falco like "Some of you are alright, don't come to school tomorrow"

[u/Lightning_Laxus]

Hey, here are some fun facts!

1. Reiner is Isayama's favourite character in the series!

2. Isayama likes Reiner so much that he hangs a picture of Reiner in his office!

3. Isayama even gave Reiner an official theme song! It is "Romance" by Shinsei Kamattechan.

[u/[deleted] → u/Lightning_Laxus]

WTF the photo in his office lmao

[u/comandoram]

"I have been thinking everyday since coming here, how did things turn out this way, ruined minds and bodies, people with no freedom left. People who even lost themselves. What kind of person would want to go to war if they knew they will end up like this?

But there was something there all along, pushing us through hell. For most of us that something is not our free will, we were forced by others, or by our environment.

That's why the people who push themselves into this hell see a different hell from rest us. They see something beyond this hell, may be it is hope, maby it an another hell. I don't know which it is. The only people who do know are the ones who keep moving forward."

This little speech from eren, perfectly describes themes and world of aot.

All of the important characters and even minor characters in this series started out simple innocent kids who just desired to live a simple peaceful life.

But all of them fell victim to the cruel world of aot, and ended up forced to destroy there lives and other's lives in this never ending war.

However none of them wanted to take part In this war. All of them were victim of there circumstances. Reiner, annie and berthold were victim of Marley's propaganda, which turned them from innocents kids to mass murderers, however by the time they realized what they have done, it was already too late.

On other hand eren, armin and mikasa only wanted live in a free world where they won't be trapped inside those walls. However to achieve something as simple as this, they had to go against hordes of man eating giants and even have to kill other humans. And the most tragic thing is, just when they thought they are free from walls and war as a whole, they came to know that war is far from over, beyond the walls and ocean, there is a far more stronger enemy preparing to kill them.

But things have gone so bad no one from both side can quit fighting. Because in cruel world of aot if you quit fighting, that will mean instant death sentence not only for you but also for your loved ones.

So as eren said the only thing you can do is push through this hell and keep moving forward.

[u/[deleted]]

Man I busted a nut over that last scene.

So Annie was a psycho from the beginning. I can't wait to see her flashback.

Every scene that featured Reiner was heartbreaking. Maybe it is recency bais but he might be my new favorite character.

iirc Reiner and Bert said that they came from a place in southern east of wall Maria. The same place that the man who committed suicide came from or am I bullshitting?

Edit: After reading your comments and thinking about it yes Annie isn’t a psycho and it’s very likely that a very sad backstory is the reason for her actions. I just wrote the first thing that came to my mind while watching and it was wrong.

[u/Damarugaki → u/[deleted]]

I've replayed the final part multiple times, it was executed perfectly.

[u/reddadz → u/[deleted]]

Reiner and Bert said that they came from a place in southern east of wall Maria. The same place that the man who committed suicide came from or am I bullshitting?

They straight up stole his backstory as an alibi. Bert in S1E3 vs. the man's story in S4E3

[u/woancue]

some of the shots this episode were simply beautiful–amazing art by MAPPA.

damn

[u/MilkToastKing]

POV you are Marcel:

• You talk up your friend Reiner so that he becomes a tool of war instead of your brother

• Get filled with guilt that you selfishly threw your friend's life under the bus

• You tell him and he doesn't take it well, and you do so just before a pure titan attacks

• Push him out of the way and die in his place

• Your entire mission is a massive failure without your leadership, and you lose two of your teammates

• Your brother ends up getting your exact same power and becoming a tool of war anyways

Can't have shit in AOT

[u/axl625]

Press F to pay respects for Reiner's mental health.

[u/mohamez]

Reiner's dad is on the worst dads list for sure.

[u/clorox_baratheon → u/mohamez]

bad parenting is the real villain of this series

[u/Sane-Ni-Wa-To-Ri]

End card for this episode!

(from official twitter)

MAPPA illustration:

Reiner

(from MAPPA twitter)

[u/XoNtheHAWK]

This episode makes me want to keep moving forward

[u/thesagenibba]

LMAOOOOOO. Young Eren "I wish something interesting would happen". I always forget RBA was like 10 when they invaded & killed thousands. It's such an interesting parallel between them & Eren.

[u/SrCannon]

Wow... Annie always good with her legs. LOL Poor Reiner, tried so hard to fit and now he's so mad about living.

Eren starts his plan!!!

[u/thesagenibba]

How does every single episode just continue to top the last? I seriously don't get it. This is the greatest show of all time

[u/NeoElohssa]

Reiner can shrug physical attacks as the Armored Titan but his armor does not protect him from mental pain and trauma. Reiner x Suffering otp

[u/SrCannon]

That's was so sad how Reiner tried so hard to fit. No wonder that now he's so pissed about living. It was nice to see Annie and her nice kicks lol

So that long hair dude was really our guy. I need to see him in action again. Amazing animation MAPPA

[u/Timelymanner]

Annie told the wrong lie to Kenny. All it did was trigger him by reminding him of his sister. I’m reasonably sure visiting brothel is the last thing he’d ever do.

[u/nksoori]

Cutting your own leg to go undercover. That's committment. I guess his leg will come back as soon as he transforms once.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Younger Zeke!

Younger all of the warrior candidates! I see Pieck still looks lovely.

Yeah, this episode is basically just Reiner suffering. All of the Reiner suffering.

Eyecatch info~

Hi Kenny!

It was so cool to see parts of S1 through the "antagonist" perspective in this episode.

[u/orangeapple24]

Wow, so Reiner cannot even kill himself to end his endless suffering. That is probably the price he paid in exchange for the ultimate plot armor. Truly the devil Isayama

[u/Garlicbread10]

Everyone gangsta until bertholdt has a weird sleeping position

[u/Ljime]

Gaining more respect for Reiner every episode

[u/realrimurutempest]

The real ship of this series was Reiner X Clinical Depression/Split Personality all along 😔

Eren looks amazing post time skip bruh.

[u/greyviewing]

oh my GOD can I go into a coma until next week? Thoughts time:

Well so the 6 warriors wiped an entire country off the map before going to paradis? Great backstory for how ready they are to kill others and also makes the Marleyans sending 4 children to reclaim the founding titan make a bit more sense - after winning a war against a developed country, why wouldn't they be able to do it to a primitive, isolated one?

Seeing the 4 kids together really puts it into perspective that Reiner is the only one of them to return - from the Marleyan's perspective the mission was probably a colossal failure and they had to send in Zeke and Pieck to even have a chance at winning the battle in S3P2.

Crazy how a single decision by Reiner caused the warriors to spend 5 years of their lives in Paradis, especially after how him and Annie beat the shit out of each other beforehand.

Can someone explain Annie and Kenny's conversation to me a little bit? Seemed weirdly cryptic and I don't really get what Annie was even doing there anyway.

Reiner's suicide attempt...god. It was executed so perfectly I almost thought he actually did it. Seeing it almost end right there really reminds you of the fragility of every character, despite how much Reiner seems to survive through (lol)

EREN?????? I absolutely did not think we would see him this early, and certainly not in this position - He's spying, but unlike Jean not as a Marleyan civilian, but a disabled Eldian soldier. Presumably this has allowed him to befriend Falco, so it's definitely strategically useful. I'm very interested how he even got here - did he literally spend years of his life getting into the army, just to get a disabling wound from war so he could stay in a hospital near to where all the warriors live? Seeing him here makes me feel like the war may break out quicker than we expect - it's likely that Eren and co. are actually entirely ready to attack, and the "reunion" mentioned at the end will probably be the starting point.

Eren's speech is also pretty interesting, as he's pretty clearly talking about himself and his own motivations, as it's a lot more complex than "kill the titans" now. It's essentially a more fleshed out speech of the feeling he expressed upon seeing the ocean.

Christmas be damned, I just want next Sunday

[u/R3pN1xC → u/greyviewing]

Can someone explain Annie and Kenny's conversation to me a little bit? Seemed weirdly cryptic and I don't really get what Annie was even doing there anyway.

Annie was trying to get information about the founding titan, Kenny aks her why she was following him, to not look suspicious she makes up a story and then she runs away.

[u/flyingelephante]

“Own up to your mistakes and die.”

“I should’ve died today.”

...and he was really ready to accept the death that he must've thought was long overdue, the only way to deal with all the guilt that's been haunting him all this time.

Presumably these flashbacks are the last things running through Reiner's mind as he decides to die, and yet we have no idea that that's what we've been watching until it's finally made explicit. Suicide is not necessarily the expected conclusion that we’d automatically make when we see the first frames of him loading the rifle with bullets ^{(at least if it weren't for the spoilers in the trailer..}). But then all the flashbacks suddenly click together as we realize they’re each links leading up to this final moment when he decides he simply cannot live with himself any longer.

That sequence that switches between Reiner & Eren in the past, to Reiner in the present is one my favourites in the entire series. The ironic contrast between hope and despair, the will to move forward vs having found that "forward" is only more hell...

[u/KelloPudgerro]

BANGER SOUNDTRACK IS BACK, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[u/comandoram]

Am I the only one who have watched last 2 minutes of this episode multiple times?

Eren's little pep talk with falco was literally one of my favorite moments of this arc, and I gotta say mappa did this scene completely justice.

The cinematography, the atmosphere, the voice acting everything about that scene was perfect.

[u/Ultra85GOAT]

10/10 Episode imo it was done really really well man props to mappa What you guys think?

[u/fayezabdd]

IS THAT EREN HELLO?? THAT'S KAJI'S VOICE AND EREN'S EYES JEEEEEEEEEEZZ HOLY FUC K

ALSO ANNIE BEST EREN BEST RIENER BEST FALCO BEST ALL BEST MAPPA DOES IT AGAIN

[u/theregretmeter → u/fayezabdd]

I have been wanting a glimpse of the main trio and what they were doing, and the moment he called out to Falco, I was like "Wait, he looks very similar to Eren. Wait, he sounds similar to Eren. WAIT, THAT IS EREN!".

Madlad just chilling behind enemy lines with 2 Titans in tow, or are they still in him? He is missing a leg, how did that happen?

[u/rin_da]

Everyone talks about Reiner (understandably), but what about Eren?? Is he just chilling in Marley? Probably not, because of Jeans Cameo in ep. 1... I think we'll see a (not so heartwarming) reunion next week

But I'm also really curious about the guy who committed suicide. Did he know that those three were Eldians from Marley? And how?

[u/notthehulk03 → u/rin_da]

Nah the suicided man kinda anguished his pain by suiciding since he left those kids at the village. He happened to had Reiner and co to talk.
And no, he didnt know any of the eldian marley thing.

[u/JoeSantoasty]

(Anime Only)
I KNOW THAT VOICE. I'm so happy. On a rewatch of the episodes through someone's reaction series I realized that there was more to that person. They're seen watching Reiner and the kids through the window on the pier, they had their armband on the wrong side (not knowing customs), and I feel like I'd seen a picture of this character before. I told my friend my theory that it was him and he didn't believe me. Sweet vindication.

Now, I wanna theorize about the how and the why. Him being here makes me fully believe that everyone is here already. It's a mirror of how the young Warriors attacked Paradis by surprise. I fully believe that the original squad is going to pull off a sneak attack on Marley on their home turf.

Regarding the flashback, it's simply cool to see the other side and more of Reiner's psychology. Not a lot of this was super new information persay, but I liked the different perspective. Not to mention, Reiner was less than a second away from killing himself at the thought of going back to Paradis. He is in so much pain and has so much trauma.

Also a question to anyone whose able to clarify, what was that scene with Annie and Kenny? I recall Annie's drive being for her father but is it actually Kenny? I thought he was just Levi's uncle? If this is revealed in a future episode then don't say anything please.

I love this show.

[u/Raknel]

Cmon people, why do I see so many believing that Kenny unironically is Annie's dad?

Like we've seen Annie enter the walls for the first time when she was ~12. How could her father be Kenny, who never left the walls? Unless Annie popped out of existence then was reborn and artificially aged up while they were infiltrating.

[u/TheAlmightyLoaf]

Yuki Kaji speaks

"hEy GuYs, Is ThAt ErEn??"

C'mon y'all...

[u/locusqq]

I wish Annie kicked me in the face like that.

[u/comandoram]

An interesting detail about eren's eyes in this episode.

In reiner's flash back you can see light in eren's eyes. Which shows how eren during survey cop training days was still hopeful about a peaceful future. He was hopeful about finding light at the end of tunnel.

However while talking to falco In current day, his eyes look completely lifeless. The light In his eyes which we saw during survey cop training days is completely gone, indicating that he has lost that hope about a peaceful and happy future. He doesn't even know what even awaits for him at the end of the road.

However as he said to falco, it looks eren is still determined to keep moving forward In order to see what awaits for him at the end of the road.

[u/Izen023]

Breaking news: Eren Jeager takes Kirigaya Kazuto's spot as anime Jesus.

[u/Kance10]

Reiner almost committing suicide after reminiscing on his childhood trauma and all of his descisions that led to the hell he lived through in seasons 1-3 really messed me up...

And it's really touching that he didn't go through with it after being reminded that he still be there for the other kids

[u/Foxus67]

My man Eren looking like some random hobo to infiltrate in Marley, I like it

[u/markosinjo]

Brooo, Eren cut off his leg to blend in, thats metal as fuck

[u/KK-Hunter]

Shout-out to Marcel. He was chosen as the Jaw Titan for being the most quick-witted, and that was shown by him being the only one mature enough to notice that being a Warrior and dying in 13 years was shitty. This episode also made him dying to Ymir without anyone transforming to stop it much more believable too since you can tell it happened really quickly, before they were even over the shock of what was going on.

Still fucking love Annie, she's just such an interesting character to me and I really hope she gets more to do in Season 4. I doubt she'll get anything close to what Reiner's getting at this point but I can dream.

Also this scene, jeez.

The scene with Annie tailing Kenny is just her following him cos she found out he's with the Interior Police and wants to get information I'm pretty sure. The daughter excuse was really smart though, especially if she thought that up on the spot. Probably had it ready as a backup though. Too bad it didn't work cos Kenny's Kenny but oh well.

Man. Fucking love/hate everyone having their own interpretations of humanity and the split between the Eldians because of everyone being lied to and brainwashed and lacking information etc. etc. It's the basis for this entire season and it's perfectly written but so bittersweet to watch because of that.

Fuck. Of course Reiner relates here what with the "5 years and accomplished nothing". Worse than nothing since they lost the Jaw Titan.

This scene was fucked man. We got the exact same thing in S1 and the guy actually went through with it, but never would have expected it from Reiner. Man's not doing too hot, though it's hard to blame him. The whole "I'm not good enough" shit is enough on its own, then he's got the conflict over knowing the Paradisians aren't bad but he can't do anything or it'll screw over his Eldians, plus knowing that he's essentially also dooming whoever he passes the Armoured Titan onto, plus a load of other shit.

This reveal was obvious if you hyper-analysed last episode but fuckkk that transition to the ending was so good. I was worried pre-Season 4 that we wouldn't get stuff like that with Mappa but it's all good.

Eren using the lost memory excuse from daddy. Though I guess Grisha actually might have lost his memory temporarily from transforming for the first time.

Lol. Yeah it's fine guys, Eren doesn't have emotional trauma, nope.

I'm so hyped for when the Paradisians make their move. But at the same time I have no idea how they're gonna attack. I thought Eren might still be in his "kill everyone there" mode from the beach scene, but it seems he still wants to save the Marley Eldians from this scene. Or at least some of them like Falco who seem like good people to him. Which makes sense given the scene with him not killing the fat Titan at the end of S3 since it was a "fellow patriot".

Also yeah, the "something" forcing people into hell. Pretty much just reinforcing the theme of this season that there's no "evil" people, just people who are fighting because they don't know the truth/have no choice/etc. Well, other than some of the Marleyans who are just evil pieces of shit lmao. Though I guess that's fair since there's totally piece of shit Eldians too, we've seen plenty of them within the walls. So the lesson is that humanity just has pieces of shit :)

[u/bombingrun19]

Damn dude, Reiner's existence is pain. One of the best characters in this show

[u/Kyubeu]

Ah yeah. Reiner's backstory. Hardships of growing up in Marley. Marcel's loss on the mission (BTW THAT was Pieck. After last week's enthusiasm of manga readers about her I need to look at her carefully). And then he changes. He is the most realistic despite being a ultra patriot before. And then my brain started seeing the parallels

Oh no. He's like Eren. Exactly like him. And he's seen that and encouraged him. Because he's a good person deep down

Oh cool, some guy's trying to kill himself. Wait... JESUS FUCKING CHRIST REINER!!! I. Am. Shocked

Fortunately Falco was there. But unfortunately he continues the cycle and he will soon realise that

All this dramatic stuff aside, scene with Eren asking Reiner for advice was the closest SnK was to make me cry

Ok, we've seen the old gang and heh Impostors' perspective so that's great. And Reiner is beyond beoken. As all smart Eldians in Marley probably are. We'll see, as well as what Zeke is planning because I'm sensing something (dodging rhetorical questions as manga readers are here to spoil the fun)

Edit: I've just noticed MAL has it listed as 16 episodes. Is it confirmed? It would make sense as a one cour with earlier start

[u/thesagenibba]

Damn Reiners mom is really trying her hardest to cope. More copium Mama Reiner!

[u/fridge_freezer]

HOLY SHIT IT'S EREN!!!

Yet another episode that felt like 5 minutes, even with so much going on. I love how they showed the warrior selections, and seeing the early parts of S1 from their perspective is really cool.

It's so fucking good to finally have new Annie scenes, she's still as violent as ever. Her stomping on Reiner reminds me a lot of her kicking her dad when he pushed her too far (i think from Lost Girls?). She even met Kenny! I've missed him so much since S3P1.

Nice to see Burrito again too, and his sleeping positions for telling the weather. The story they're told by that man on the farm is the same one he used as his cover when telling Eren and Armin about his first encounter with titans back in training. I wonder if that was a particular point of guilt for him, in the same way that Marco was for Reiner.

Someone please give Reiner a hug and tell him it'll be okay. I always liked him as a character before the big S2 reveal but he's steadily climbed to be one of my favorites over the past 3 weeks. Poor guy just wanted his family to be together, and he wasn't even supposed to be chosen.

Eren seems to be deep undercover but I get the feeling there's some truth to his words about not wanting to go home or face his family.

[u/_Ozilus_]

Well he's here... Finally animated, the best protagonist of all time!

This has been said many times, but now more than ever... WE ARE NOT READY

[u/Ukey]

That was a really good episode, and HOLY SHIT at the end I was just "wtf that really sounds like Eren. Wait, is this Eren? Those fuckers are hiding his eyes it has to be Eren." They've snuck in this is very excitiiiing (pls clean up soon Eren ><)

[u/ry7xsfo]

Paradis is literally tutorial mode country comfyness to live in until GR of course

Reiner grew up in a concentration camp

[u/Kirikoh]

Who would have ever thought back then that Reiner would be the narrative foil to Eren. Phenomenal storytelling with a plot and characterisation that has clearly been carefully thought out and constructed as a whole rather than as the story strung along on the fly.

[u/PussyLunch]

Holy shit did Eren just play a reverse uno card lol. Now he’s in their country and I don’t think he’s there to sight see. What goes around comes around eh.

[u/MechaMat91]

so, if in season one the special Titans looked like they're just making shit up as they went without a clear plan...it's because that's exactly what happened.

[u/arafatnabi]

Reiner was never happy, he was never respected. The only happiness in his life came when he was playing soldiers with 104. They respected him and he had something worth living for. But then he had to betray and kill them because of his duties. And now he lives knowing that he did bad to the only people who cared for him and took motivation from him. He just cant stand this anymore, thats why was about to end his miserable life. But then Falco saved him indirectly making him realise that he still have those kids, and they are worth living.

[u/Bios1023]

Cmon guys give some appreciation to the episode title as well.

In episode 1, when Armored and Collosal Titan broke down the wall, it was a door of hell.

In this episode, when Reiner and Bertholdt broke down the wall, it was a door of hope

[u/donteatpancakes]

Ok so so far we got Jean and Eren showing up, I'm so looking forward for next week's episode! (because of the name, it seems they will find each other)

[u/[deleted]]

What an exquisite examination of PTSD and societal influence on impressionable youth. How history is written by the victors and twisted to oppress.

I loved it in the manga but this adaptation from MAAPA made it hit even harder. Exceptional direction, beautiful animation, wonderful voice acting. Isayama's writing goes without saying.

This is truly a masterful piece of art.

[u/gridemann]

The Reiner suffering scenes from 4 different manga chapters condensed into one episode of endless pain and suffering.

[u/echykr4]

That guy speaking to Falcao at the end of the episode, that's totally Eren, isn't he?

Kaji Yuki's voice isn't that hard to recognize.

As a Shifter, he can easily pretend to be an amputee without anyone suspecting.

So Annie attempted to do some spying within Wall Sina before she graduated from the academy. But as Kenny kept getting in the way, she had no choice but to complete her training and then had herself assigned to the Military Police division stationed inside Wall Sina, which would give her better access for spying.

(No replies from source readers please, you're not as subtle as you think you are. )

[u/MichaelZZ01]

Ymir almost saved Reiner from 13 years of endless depression until Marcel decided to ruin it.

[u/Reemys]

Just wanted to outline how fundamental this episode is for the series, and how many layers the author put efforts in. It started as a gruesome survival, transcended into a search-for-truth coming-of-age and culminated into an anti-war epic.

The parallels that everyone is drawing is the same - they were used, they were corrupted and did mistakes. And yet they are still there, because the mistakes keep on being done. Generations after generations, they were forced into tragedy of an anti-utopian society and when they realized it, they have already become a part of the overbearing problem. Just to highlight how important Reiner's testimony is:

Reiner became fixated as a child, to him Marley and Eldians were just words - what he truly wanted is to make his mother happy. He adopted the ideology and kept telling himself it is righteous just to get his parents back together. But the mother herself unwillingly instilled the false image into Reiner, as his father never wanted to be a part of the family. Both him and his mother were deceiving themselves to find a meaning in their life inside the walls. The revelation of his father wanting nothing to do with the Eldians made things worse - having lost raison d'etre, Reiner was left only with the ideology and mother's love. He HAD to keep being a warriour because otherwise he would have no identity, no self, all he believed in mattered nothing.

One can draw a parallel between Reiner and Erwin - both had been chasing after something they could not understand, risking their life just to eventually reach there. For Erwin it was the truth of why his father had to perish, what secrets costed him his life, while for Reiner this truth was hidden behind the words of Marcel. He never wanted to go to war, but he knew that some will have to, and tried to protect the closest to him person. Reiner became a tool, which Marcel kept regretting until his final moment (a sad tie-in with Ymir... quite sad). Marcel's kindness and lack of desire must have been driving mad Reiner until that moment he took the rifle. Marcel knew Reiner always wanted to become a Titan, but STILL he apologizes to Reiner - and Reiner cannot realize why, could not for long years he had to be psychologically tortured, his id conflicting between being a Titan, and a friend.

Annie always was a troubled child with sadistic tendencies. But apparently she also wanted to live and was not as deeply into brainwashing as Reiner was. That Annie - always strict with everyone and angry - she never wanted to be on that island. For years, she wanted to leave, but Reiner held her back because she was needed for the plan. She herself became a victim of circumstances. Through fear and anxiety, she still endured living there, having a mission she did not want to carry out.

Berthold is another case as well. He was always hesitant and only did what he did because he cared for Reiner and Annie, he shared neither their sadism nor ideology. And his whole "resignation" throughout the series is well-highlighted by his encounter with the farmer - the last thing the farmer did was tell Berthold how he destroyed all he had. Living through a nightmare, supposedly every night seeing that farmer on the tree, this property also went into the next Colossal titan - the first thing Armin saw after he inherited the power was a nightmare. A tragic titan for those who do not wish to wield it.

And their backstory signifies the most tragic nature of the whole Shingeki no Kyojin universe - a cycle of violence and sacrifices, which people realize only in retrospective, well past the point of no-return... if they had one. How Reiner remembers it all and has no more power to go through with this life where he is the last one, until he is reminded that the cycle is still ongoing.

The author has seemingly become my pick for "the most genius tragedy writer" I know of, for the better or the worse. The mastery with which the psychology of self, the anti-utopian society and the cycles of war and oppression are intertwined into a single, wholesome saga - it requires a vision, and a talent. Exactly the kind of people I appreciate the most when it comes to art.

On a final note, I will remind everyone of maybe the most tragic single story-line in the whole series - Grisha Jaeger's first wife that turned into a Titan. Titans are mindless and lacking self, acting as animals and consuming on instinct. The are supposed to attack on sight... and yet that one Titan went past Berthold. Weakened and powerless, Berthold was a perfect prey for her, but willingly or not there was something else she had her sight on - she went into the town, found her husband's new family, and out of hatred, despair, sorrow, vengeance, envy just name any negative quality - she targeted the new wife of her former husband. This inexplicable, unjustifiable in-story act of willfulness adds a distinct, mysterious to all of us but the author, shade of personal tragedy transcending even the clearly defined generational tragedy of war.

[u/AdventurousLaw4]

Never thought I'd think this but Reiner might be one of my favorite characters in AoT now.

I need to rewatch the entire show now that I have more context as I think Season 2 will make WAY more sense with his breakdown and the discussions he and Bert had with Ymir. The whole soldier/warrior dichotomy, his betrayal eating him inside, trying to be a hero yet having his entire indoctrinated worldview challenged when he lives with the Eldians.

I can see why he has a bit of a personal connection with Falco too. He sees his younger self in him.

[u/thesagenibba]

Annie literally has 0 chill. I never understood why people liked her as we knew so little about her but I get it now. I was shocked at the sympathy she's showing. Really interested in her dynamic with Kenny.

[u/asian_hans]

Yes fuck censorship, they did the reiner shotgun scene justice!

[u/ry7xsfo]

I saw this comment on youtube thought to share it here:

There was symbolism in this episode that is easily missed and overlooked: Annie killing the grasshopper. When Reiner and Bertholdt look over to see what Annie was kicking they see a mangled grasshopper. Grasshoppers in various cultures and religions represent different things, but most commonly are associated with "good luck" and fortune for the world. They either go through complete metamorphosis or incomplete metamorphosis and hatch from larvae, which is like an egg pod or cocoon. In religions such as the Bible, Grasshoppers are metaphors that symbolize the puniness of man when viewed from above. They also never jump backwards or sideways and are always moving/jumping forward, which some interpret as meaning to take a "leap of faith." How ironic is it that titans are huge creatures while humanity are puny in comparison when viewed above by Titans. In this case when Annie, Reiner, and Bert attack the walls the Eldians in the walls are like the grasshoppers who symbolize the puniness of man when viewed from above. Also how ironic is it that grasshoppers are meant as "good luck" but in this case, the Paradis Island Operation was a massive fail. How ironic is it that Annie, the one who killed and mangled the grasshopper is in a larvae type cocoon just like grasshoppers when they hatch. I doubt this scene was included trivially and I think Annie killing the grasshopper symbolized how terribly everything went from the start.

[u/Momo--Sama]

Never forget that Bertholdt watched Annie beat the shit out of Reiner while telling him to kill himself and Bertholdt was like “I’d simp”

[u/cornpenguin01]

I want to give Reiner a hug

[u/-yeseen-]

Damn Eren looks so good

[u/mhc122333]

Hold on, I swear that was eren that falco was talking to just at the end or am I bugging out?

[u/Sharebear42019]

Man can’t reiner just die already

[u/Demolosse001]

Reiner had it rough from the start. I am surprised he even waited that long before attempting suicide but I guess the prospects of going back to the island made it worse. Also was Annie some kind of psychopath or something ? I mean she was randomly killing insects.

I pretty much realized that the injured soldier was Eren as his face kept being hidden while talking. Never thought he would be that good at infiltration knowing his personality. I guess he has grown.

I guess it is now Reiner's turn to protect his loved ones from inside threats (Eren and others). The tables have turned.

[u/Rambo_sonn]

So Reiner was never meant to inherit the armored? He was seen as the weakest and yet was the only one to come back home.

[u/arafatnabi]

Reiner made all the wrong decisions at every point. He shouldnot have run away and shouldve transformed to save Marcel but he was too shook from the information that Marcel told him. He shouldnt have continued the mission after they lost Marcel. He shouldnot have joined the Military, shouldnot have made friends. He couldve returned at many points but he chose to move forwards and each time his friends paid the price. Annie got captured because of him. Berthold, Marcel, Ymir, his comrades died because of him. And worst thing is that nothing happened to him on his return. He was still allowed to continue as warrior. He now has PTSD, survivors guilt, depression, anxiety and is suicidal.

[u/[deleted]]

There's something really satisfying in seeing Kenny the Ripper again. Annie going "I cannot get any further into the underground if THAT GUY is there" really puts into perspective how ridiculous an experienced Ackerman is.

The most competent member of the Titan trio forced to run cause he had her dead to rights.

[u/glitter-k]

As someone who has reiner as their fav character this whole episode was just pain I mean I waited for his backstory since 2017 but holy shit

[u/LeonKevlar]

Stitches!

• Depression

• Eldian Hobo

Female Titan and Jaw Titan looking good! Good to see not all Titans are CG but I'm sure people will still complain.

Poor Reiner. Brainwashed by his own zealous mother and rejected by his real father. And now he learns that him becoming the Armored Titan was a lie so Marcel can save Porco from becoming a Titan. Being Reiner is suffering.

Not gonna lie though, seeing him scared and squeal like a coward after Annie and Bert caught up to him was hilarious xD

Look at Dina just casually strolling past Bert on her way to eat Carla. I don't know why but I found that really amusing.

Well technically Reiner wasn't lying when he said he wanted to save humanity.

MEGANE ANNIE WITH PIGTAILS! MEGANE ANNIE WITH PIGTAILS!

Jesus that suicide scene still hits hard even though I've seen it in the manga already. Despite all the jokes, I still do feel bad about Reiner. Thankfully Falco was there to interrupt the moment.

[u/VegetoSF]

Man this show is just unbelievable good. This episode was basically telling us a lot of things, we already know, but here and there new details due to a different perspective and still it was so exciting to watch. Of course, I did not like Reiner because of his "betrayal", but those last episodes did such an amazing job to characterize him, that I almost like him and feel very sorry for him!

The pay-off for watching this show for the last years is just enormous, and it will be great to rewatch the show!

[u/IdesOfCaesar7]

I went in the final season absolutely hating Reiner, but by the second episode I think he's a fascinating character and by the third even more so and I just can't find it within me to hate him. If there's a three dimensional character in the entire show it's definitely Reiner, although the show is defintely not lacking in the characters department. My two favorites are Armin and Erwin (yes in that order lmao) but Reiner is probably going to come out on top.

I also think the young one (Edit: Falco) who wants to inherit the Armored Titan instead of Gabi is one of my favorite characters.

And that Eren reveal at the end had my jaw dropped on the floor for 2 minutes straight. I had to rewind before the ending because I just could not believe it!!! I'm so excited to finally see what their plans finally are.

I thought the very first episode was alright, it was a war without any context and new characters were getting introduced, it's unfair to expect so much out of it. The second episode I found to be the perfect pace for me with enough characters interactions to make it meaningful and Reiner is an incredible character and it set up some events that I hope are going to be fucking amazing. And now slowly with Eren's inclusion I can just sense that this is going to be something special and a climax for the ages. I can't believe how privileged I am that I get to experience this masterpiece in real time. Holy shit I'm so excited.

I don't know how the story in the manga is, but I think Studio MAPPA (incredible studio by the way, it's probably my favorite right now) has shown incredible restraint in not showing the original characters right away just to please fans or whatever.

These two final episodes might have been objectively super slow but they were perfect for me, Reiner's character study is just fascinating to sit through.

I don't know whether or not theories are allowed in this thread, so I won't go into it and I mean who cares since the manga story is almost over, but I just want to say tremendous fucking balls by Hajime Isayama to just switch up the main cast like that at such a deciding point in the story. The man is a genius, hands FUCKING down.

I can already sense that this season is going to end up being my favorite.

So yeah thanks if you decided to read through this rant of mine.

Ps: The opening and ending are such a joy to listen.

[u/thesagenibba]

"Reiner is dead". Jesus Christ those were deep words

[u/toutoune134]

Being Reiner is suffering.
Last scene stich. Damn son!

[u/iReddat420]

Reiner's depression was so well portrayed that no one's even talking about the fact Eren and co have already managed to infiltrate the Marleyan military and get into the walls of Liberio, Reiner's hometown. The parallelism is fucking great and Eren's speech and reveal knocked my fucking socks off.

[u/AchariPickle22]

OH MY GOD I'M SO HYPED FOR EREN!!

that speech was awesome

[u/toshiaki_noda]

every week repeats the same feeling of "i can't wait till next week"

[u/comandoram]

Did anyone noticed? that suicide man's story in this episode is similar to the berthold's story which he told to everyone in survey cops back in season 1.

So basically berthold stole suicide's man story and used that story for himself to hide his identity and to blend in other refugees.

[u/Kang_Cheol]

**“**I've been thinking everyday since I came here. How did things turn out this way? Ruined minds and bodies, people with no freedom left, people who have even lost themselves...What kind of person would want to go to war if they knew they were going to end up like this? But...There was something there, all along...Pushing us right into hell.

For most of us, that something is not of our own free will. We're forced to by others, or by our environment. That's why the people who push themselves into hell see a different hell from the rest of us. They also see something beyond that hell. Maybe it's hope. Maybe it's another hell. I don't know which it is. The only people who do know...Are the ones who keep moving forward.

Our MC is back

[u/[deleted]]

The OST really grew on me, found it weird at first but now I can’t stop listening to it

[u/hapibanana]

I'm only gonna speak for the animation but I like this episode much more than the last one. Still dialogue heavy but there's no over the top animation for scenes that don't need it. The simple animation and the OST (or the lack of) keeps you focused on the deep dialogue.

[u/randomness7345]

Depressed Reiner really gets to you

[u/perfectbluu]

If they had listened to Annie after Marcel was eaten, they probably could've found Ymir and returned to Marley with all their titans.

Instead, Marley lost the colossal titan, lost the female titan, and had to fight in a 4 year war. Because of Reiner's choice, hundreds of his friends on both sides of the walls died.

He's probably the most tortured character in the series so far.

[u/TurbidusQuaerenti]

Man, this series is amazing. It's crazy how much they've changed how I look at all the characters and the world, multiple times. I really just feel sorry for Reiner now. And all of the Eldian soldiers, really.

That moment when I realized it was Eren talking to Falco was something. I bet he has something absolutely insane planned. Both hyped and worried.

[u/Animegamingnerd]

Friendly reminder everyone, Reiner is Isayama's favorite character.

Also this is a photo taken from Isayama's office lol.

[u/DirkDasterLurkMaster]

There's been evidence before that aspects of a previous shifter can influence the current holder, even if they haven't unlocked the memories yet (such as Eren defaulting to biting his hand just like Frieda did). Makes you wonder if Marcel's influence was what gave Ymir the idea to tank her own grades to prop up Historia to the top 10.

[u/martin14ilianov]

If you notice the story of the man that hung himself is the same as the one that Reiner and Bert told Eren and Armin in ep 3

[u/CCSlim]

The eren reveal was spoiled in last week thread so it didn’t hit as hard

[u/fullofregrets2009]

I don't see anybody talking about the man at the end talking to Falco? That could only be Eren! I'd recognize that voice anywhere, plus his hair and eye color? They've been there the entire time? What were they doing, biding their time? If Eren has his leg still lost, that means he hasn't turned into a Titan all these years? Because then it would've grown back.

[u/thesagenibba]

IS THAT WHO I THINK IT IS? AHHHHHHHH I CANT TAKE THIS SHIT ANYM,ORE

[u/FeebleBacon]

*Reiner before going to Paradis: "Those devils are evil & need to die!"

*Reiner after going to Paradis: "Are...Are we the Baddies?"

[u/cocaine_enthusiast1]

The callbacks, foreshadowing and the attention to detail just keeps getting better and better,this is bonkers.

[u/Zatak37]

This anime is so well connected. Most of the anime just keeps on making story whithout looking what happened in the first or second seasons. But attack on titan is so well connected. As more of the plot reveals we can relate it to the previous seasons. This is one of the best anime NGL

[u/CarioGod]

I heard the voice at the end and was like no fucking way, eren grew his hair out more.

It's going to cause trouble when training, he should cut it.

[u/000TragicSolitude]

I think it only truly hit me in this episode how much Reiner in the present just looks so damn tired and drained. It's no wonder he wanted to just end it all after all he's been through and that we now understand the full extent of.

[u/getintheVandell]

..wait.

..is that guy in the PTSD hospital..

..?!?!?!

[u/damhaniddu123]

Man, that exposition scene about the Titan shifters gave me COD Black Ops flashbacks.

[u/The_Great_Creator]

Really good episode by MAPPA. Manga readers are saying this is the worst episode but I still liked it a lot from an anime standpoint.

[u/TSmasher1000]

Ereh: I'll make sure you have the most painful and worst death imaginable.

The plot-armored, suffered titan Reiner: YES PLEASE!

Bertholdt and Ereh: Eh?

The plot-armored, suffered titan Reiner: ...Sorry that was a strange thing to say.

So we now know that being Reiner is suffering. Our sufferboi has gone through quite a bit of hell and back with horrible brainwashing, a broken family, learning about and growing up with the only people who treated him well who he has to kill, and having the only people who can understand him either dead or captured (at least) on Paradis. No wonder why he's Isayama's favorite character, because he can make him sufferboi while giving him BEEG plot armor so he has to suffer more. Also EREH HYPE.

Sadly there are quite a few cut manga scenes in this episode which fleshes the characters out more and gives more context on the actions of our warriors and why they did (or didn't) do certain actions - if anyone wants to read this episode adapts up to the middle of chapter 97, chapters 95-97.5 to be exact (go past that and you enter into slight spoiler territory).

[u/haechsuns]

Just wanna drop in and say that Annie faced the 3 Ackermans in her life

[u/jfThirty30]

While I love the high octane fight scenes, these episodes that really go deeper into the story really make this a GOAT anime.

[u/Yamireddit]

Man, that ending for fucks sake. This is the best series ever.

[u/r3n4m0n]

Watching a great adaption makes me wish I had not read the manga first but I probably would have spoiled myself accidentally anyways.

Anime onlies have a great time with this adaption and I hope you survive from the spoilers!

[u/GonTheDinosaur]

The introduction of titan shifters was shortly amused back when the chapter was released:

• Female titan goes to Annie, for her versatility

• Armor titan goes to Reiner, for his perseverance

• Jaw titan goes to quick-witted Marcel

• Cart titan goes to Pieck, for her quick-thinking

• Colossal titan goes to Bertholdt, the god of destruction (or demon child, as some scanlation puts it)

[u/greeninator]

Baby Eren: I wish something would happen.

Hobo Eren: Things happened and it was Hell.

[u/New_Age2469]

Not only did Boruto steal the old man's story, but Berthold's transformation theme from Return to Shiganshina, Apple Seed, has the following lyrics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgli1xUKX5s

" Apple drop beside the tree

Old man, please, remember me "

Just another detail that makes this manga/anime/story so good.

[u/bhupeshpr25]

Damn, Annie beating the shit out of Reiner was terrifying.

And, his look a few moments later was even more terrifying.

[u/macalebh]

Bruh is that Eren talking to falco at the end of the episode??!???!

[u/LorenzoApophis]

All I can say is, if you're enjoying this as an anime-only you really owe it to yourself to go back and read the manga. This episode covered maybe half at most of what's actually in Reiner's backstory.

[u/MazPA]

So I'm guessing Eren is there on some kind of undercover mission..or maybe be genuinely defected? Or maybe it's something else altogether.

[u/mohamez]

The silence in the 1st part of Eren's speech with Falco was the best soundtrack ever.

[u/[deleted]]

Isayama sensei GOAT
The greatest writer

and

"apple drop beside the tree, old man please remember me"
that old man is the man who hung himself on that tree in this episode and that affected Bertolt a lot.

Damn even the music has foreshadowing in it.

AoT is the greatest work of fiction and the best show. I dont care if you agree or not.

[u/propinquity26]

HOLYYFUCK MANN this ep might be my favorite episode yet.

[u/lucciolaa]

how is Reiner the most complex, developed, and sympathetic character of this series

[u/[deleted]]

So that was who I thought it was at the end right? I'm not just hallucinating right?

[u/[deleted]]

i could watch the back stories from their perspective for hours. this so well done. this is shaping up to be my favourite season so far. i love how they slowed down after that hype ending of the last season. this feels slow but extremely bleak.

[u/thismise4u]

Is anyone going to bring up how great the Titans actually looked this episode? I'm unsure what they did differently, but holy shit they looked great.

[u/MahirSenpai]

Reiner x Depression is the best ship

[u/Tchlurpy]

Reiner really loaded an entire stripper clip to commit suicide...

[u/[deleted]]

The ending of this ep got me to hype for next week.

[u/SSB_GoGeta]

The Plot Armor Titan works even against attempted suicide

/s

[u/benjadolf]

I feel like this is a great time to remember a certain part of the lyrics from the previous season of Apple seed.

Apples drop beside the tree Old man please, remember me and All of us still chase our dream Underneath the canopy.

So, the old man in the lyrics was this old man who committed suicide, at first I thought they might be talking about Annie's old man, but this song is entirely for Big Bert. In a lot of ways Sawano's music is a great part of the story we usually miss out.

[u/mapoztofu]

So Reiner wanted to make his mum and family happy by becoming a high ranking official?

Asian family confirmed?

[u/Deathpunch21]

So Reiner, Berthold and Annie never were the bad guys, but just confused and brainwashed kid soldiers... Damn, the second season hits different now.

I really liked the shift from "Titans are evil, humans are good" to "Humans are evil and good and titans are victims". I hope this continues to evolve, because so far the Mareyans seem to be just evil and not morally grey.

[u/thesagenibba]

IM SO HYPED! why is it that i feel as if im going to faint every time a new episode releases. i dont think ive ever loved a show this much

[u/tklfillerz]

Being Reiner is suffering

[u/sharmarahulkohli]

Fun Fact:The story of that Bertholdt told Eren and Armin(of the titans attacking their "home town") in Episode 3 is the same story which the old man told Bertholdt and Reiner in this episode

[u/Brugink]

Eren: "I wish something would happen" Episode cuts to OP filled with war imagery and such
Something happened alright

[u/Rusik_94]

Also Annie being kinda psycho from the beginning?

[u/Vegeta-IV]

This episode is Emmy worthy

[u/AR507]

Reiner is such a well written character, he was always one of my favorites from when he was introduced but these last couple of episodes has taken his character development to another level. Also I love the parallel between Reiner and Eren's stroy now also being reflected in Falco's current arc as well. The writing of this series is the literal embodiment of what it means to be a masterpiece.

[u/[deleted]]

Isayama's attention to detail is just insane. This man is an absolute genius!!

[u/tramquangpho]

Now you guys understand Isayama writing, evey dialogue has a point

[u/tjhance]

i feel really stupid i couldn't figure out who that guy at the end was until i read the comments here omg >_>

[u/Rosenwinkel92]

Man I had my doubts about this season transitioning to a new productions staff, but I gotta say I'm glad those doubts were unfounded. You know, it's really timely that I'm currently teaching the novel Native Son to my high school AP Lit class. Lots of overlapping themes, especially this question of how to break free from the environments that condition us.

[u/Weedlereed]

I feel like the suicide soldier from ep 2 foreshadows Reiner's suicidal mentality.

[u/not_a_killjoy]

What's amazing is that by looking at the last part of this episode, it seems that Eren and the others are going undercover inside Marley. They're doing what Reiner and the others did before, when they infiltrated Paradis.

[u/UsedUniversity2180]

I see some manga people hating on the pacing but I kinda loved how ”quick” everything was done,it was as if everything was spiral down for reiner as he was preparing to shoot himself.