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PGL Major Kraków 2017
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Streams
PGL | Metuz | SL TV | IzakOOO | BiDa | 99Damage | O'G TV | Hitpoint | Hitpoint (b) | Spíler TV | Fragbite | Moreira | fischix | Imba TV (Panda)
Timezones
| PDT | EDT | BRT | BST | CEST | CST | AEST |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Los Angeles | Atlanta | São Paulo | London | Kraków | Beijing | Canberra |
| UTC-7 | UTC-4 | UTC-3 | UTC+1 | UTC+2 | UTC+8 | UTC+10 |
Schedule
| ID | Team 1 | vs | Team 2 | Result | PDT | EDT | BRT | BST | CEST | CST | AEST |
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| B1 | PENTA | vs | North | 9-16 | 02:00 | 05:00 | 06:00 | 10:00 | 11:00 | 17:00 | 19:00 |
| B2 | mouz | vs | FaZe | 19-15 | 03:20 | 06:20 | 07:20 | 11:20 | 12:20 | 18:20 | 20:20 |
| B3 | F3 | vs | Na'Vi | 9-16 | 05:30 | 08:30 | 09:30 | 13:30 | 14:30 | 20:30 | 22:30 |
| B4 | Vega | vs | IMT | 6-16 | 07:45 | 10:45 | 11:45 | 15:45 | 16:45 | 22:45 | 00:45 |
| B5 | BIG | vs | C9 | 16-11 | 09:10 | 12:10 | 13:10 | 17:10 | 18:10 | 00:10 | 02:10 |
| B6 | GMB | vs | G2 | 16-6 | 11:30 | 14:30 | 15:30 | 19:30 | 20:30 | 02:30 | 04:30 |
| B7 | SK | vs | Ast | 16-8 | 12:45 | 15:45 | 17:45 | 20:45 | 21:45 | 03:45 | 05:45 |
| B8 | VP | vs | FNC | 16-11 | 14:20 | 17:20 | 18:20 | 22:20 | 23:20 | 05:20 | 07:20 |
Standings
| Place | Team Name | W&L | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 |
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| 1. | BIG | 2-0 | 16-8 | 16-11 | |||
| 1. | Gambit Esports | 2-0 | 16-10 | 16-6 | |||
| 1. | SK Gaming | 2-0 | 16-13 | 16-8 | |||
| 1. | Virtus.pro | 2-0 | 16-2 | 16-11 | |||
| 5. | North | 1-1 | 12-16 | 16-9 | |||
| 5. | mousesports | 1-1 | 10-16 | 19-15 | |||
| 5. | Natus Vincere | 1-1 | 14-16 | 16-9 | |||
| 5. | Immortals | 1-1 | 17-19 | 16-6 | |||
| Cloud9 | 1-1 | 16-12 | 11-16 | ||||
| G2 Esports | 1-1 | 16-14 | 6-16 | ||||
| Astralis | 1-1 | 19-17 | 8-16 | ||||
| Fnatic | 1-1 | 16-12 | 11-16 | ||||
| PENTA Sports | 0-2 | 13-16 | 9-16 | ||||
| FaZe Clan | 0-2 | 8-16 | 15-19 | ||||
| FlipSid3 Tactics | 0-2 | 12-16 | 9-16 | ||||
| Vega Squadron | 0-2 | 2-16 | 6-16 |
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Jul 17 '17
PGL's motto "You've never seen CSGO like this."
Technically they're not wrong.
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u/AlwaysWannaDie Jul 17 '17
Hyped for Fnatic vs Virtus.Pro, hoping mah boys will show champion-quality today
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jul 17 '17
This should be an interesting match, since we dont know what to expect from either of these teams...
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u/Denotsyek Jul 17 '17
The tournament would run better if they just sent everyone back to their hotels and created a custom match with spectating.
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Jul 17 '17
Let's hope all our games run on time today, nothing kills the hype like too much downtime. First game is starting bang on time though so early signs are good!
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u/CALL_ME_ISHMAEBY cs_italy Jul 17 '17
You've never seen CS:GO like this.
You're right. The stream crashed.
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Jul 17 '17
Me: Oh c9 are making a comeback! Let me see it!
PGL: No
Me: Understandable, have a nice day.
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u/ze_gamer2 Jul 17 '17
ELEAGUE major was great - all the matches started on time, on after another.
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u/TheToeTag Virtus.pro Jul 17 '17
"Lets just keep peeking the best player in the world. Whats he gonna do, One deag us all?"
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u/RoguishStranger 1 Million Celebration Jul 17 '17
Awesome, don't even get to watch my favorite team lose.
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u/finnishfagut Jul 17 '17
I wonder if I graduate before I get to see Fnatic vs VP
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u/see_nine Liquid Jul 17 '17
LOL APEX IS LITERALLY PLAYING THE NO INTERNET T-REX GAME ON CHROME
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u/futurehope88 Jul 17 '17
I'm going to see the match live in Krakow on friday, any tips?
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u/BlameAdderall Jul 17 '17
so we only get two majors a year and we're supposed to accept this as one of them?
lol
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u/ShAd_1337 Jul 17 '17
what is this? where is the game. so many pauses, holy shit. i thought PGL would be good
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u/tf2isbad Jul 17 '17
the stream has been live for almost 4 1/2 hours how is the third game not even started yet?
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u/zrk23 FURIA Jul 17 '17
poor redeye, spent 16 hours on the studio yesterday and things already looking bad for today
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u/aquilaPUR ar_baggage Jul 17 '17
6 hours into the game day and we seen 3 games so far. what the fuck is this shit
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u/carlosmagnocwb de_train Jul 17 '17
So many pauses and breaks, it's so annoying holy shit. I woke up 6am here in Brazil in order to watch at least 4 matches before I go to work 13pm. Only 3 matches broadcasted and i don't even know if I could see the next game AND go to work in time
Usually i don't complain about delays and production/technical problems but c'mon pgl pls fix it
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u/gonnj FaZe Jul 17 '17
This is bad, like REALLY bad
and I play fighting games, Im used to poverty in my tournaments, but this shit is on another level
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u/tgsan Jul 17 '17
https://twitter.com/Stewie/status/886999553806917632 LUL I assume he means drivers? his comment is vague as fuck.
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u/HushedCOD Jul 17 '17
Seeing a player dying to the bomb once is bad, seeing it again a couple of rounds later is mindblowing
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jul 17 '17
Do we watch CS with tech issues or tech issues with a bit of cs in between?
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Jul 17 '17
This is really starting to piss me off. The 2nd time today that this has happened, I just want to watch some csgo. BUT NO PGL messes up again for the 50th time. First in the Astralis match in overtime, then in the NaVi game, and now this. Not to mention the other 99 times they delayed for 2-3 minutes. PGL really dropped the ball on this major.
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u/Automaticmann MOUZ Jul 17 '17
"pgl are asses and we'll never work with them again"
-Gaben
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u/Soledo Jul 17 '17
Due to technical difficulties the @BIGCLANgg vs @Cloud9 match will be finished off stream. #pglmajor
LOL
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u/Shun_ Jul 17 '17
It's past ridiculous and it's now funny. lmao what an event.
Maybe it's not PGL's issue, maybe its the local infrastructure/internet, but things like this should have been factored in waaaaay before the event was scheduled.
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u/-Albertone- Jul 17 '17
PGL knew they had this major for months now and couldn't get an agreement with the local ISP to have redundant internet circuits. very poor planning on their end but hey at-least we got a new fancy spectator UI and 60 FPS streams....
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u/Paenarra 500k Celebration Jul 17 '17
It's 8 pm in Kraków, the next match doesn't start for another hour, and there are 3 more matches to go. At the rate this has been going, it's an hour between each match. They are going to finish at 2 am. Damn I feel bad for the crew and players.
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u/metrize Jul 17 '17
Apparently there's a CSGO update and they're updating thats why theyre showing so much of this
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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Jul 17 '17
tfw $100k DH Valencia had far better production than $1M PGL Major
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jul 17 '17
Damn, this is rough. We've been hyped about all this new tech and viewer experience and PGL put so much work into it... now huge tech issues.
Notlikethis PGL
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u/epicfishboy G2 Jul 17 '17
Remember when we were all excited for PGL's next-level production?
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Jul 17 '17
Lol the russian stream is commentating on the live footage from the G2 facebook page. Don't even understand a single word but I know it's some good shit.
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u/Escapererer Jul 17 '17
Gotta feel for shroud, 70 fps as a pro has to be brutal, especially if they are using 144hz monitors
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u/aquilaPUR ar_baggage Jul 17 '17
never forgetti that they took ESL ONE COLOGNE away from us for this mothafucking piece of shit
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u/metrize Jul 17 '17
The want for drops makes me wake up at 8am now instead of 2pm like I usually do in the holidays, guess that's somewhat a good thing
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Jul 17 '17
Yeah.... no.
When the time between games becomes longer than the games themself the event no longer is enjoyable.
I will just watch VOD's later on Youtube, glhf all of u.
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u/MilleniaAzure cs_italy Jul 17 '17 edited Oct 22 '17
deleted 0.9390 What is ^^^this?
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u/RavenousPonies de_cobble Jul 17 '17
Remeber all those people saying: "ESL sucks, PGL will have way better production value!"?
The best part is they all cited ESL One 2016 as the example but PGL is the one that ran that tournament.
I'm excited for the professionals to host the next major.
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u/RoguishStranger 1 Million Celebration Jul 17 '17
BIG cheating! BabyRage /s
I'm thoroughly impressed with Big so far. A lot of people were sleeping on them this major.
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u/rza_csgo Jul 17 '17
Ok i've been defending PGL this far because i like their production, but these technical issues are really getting out of hand :/
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u/LogicalRationingGuy Jul 17 '17
"You've never seen CS:GO like this"
yep i've never seen so much disconnections and stream down before.
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u/TheBestMaN98 G2 Jul 17 '17 edited Jul 17 '17
After a few months: ESL One Cologne regains its major title in 2018
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u/tobes231 Renegades Jul 17 '17
This shit has happened all day, and they'll still have the nerve to have a 30 minute gap between each match. Fucking ridiculous. Surely it doesn't take that long for them to set up the playing area for each new team...
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u/gonnj FaZe Jul 17 '17
Well....no more stream
Guess I'll have to do something productive at work, fucking PGL
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u/Moon_over_homewood de_nuke Jul 17 '17
We're watching history boys: this is going to be one of the most infamous majors of all time. We truly have never seen csgo
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u/RivenMainOCE NiP Jul 17 '17
From G2 live stream: Theyre about to resume the game offline, score is 12-6, BIG is winning.
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u/Moon_over_homewood de_nuke Jul 17 '17
Valve could do a better job in a Seattle high school gym. PGL should be disgraced by this.
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u/Moon_over_homewood de_nuke Jul 17 '17
I really wish thoorin was there only so he would slip up and say something extra spicy
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u/aftrunner NiP Jul 17 '17
Jesus fuck Coldzera. :O
He should either be banned or let other teams use aimbots or wallhax. Just not fair otherwise.
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jul 17 '17
Normal Player: "I have an AWP and they are about to push me, I better fall back."
Snax: "Perfect, let me just go close and use the AWP like a shotgun."
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Jul 17 '17
Virtus Pro is trash
They've been shit for the last few months
They're gonna go out 0-3
Virtus Pro always shows up at Majors
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u/L0ksen Jul 17 '17
Tuned it to watch C9 vs BIG, got immediately cancer from seeing C9 playing like its a ESEA pug once more. Im not watching that shit
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Jul 17 '17
You can't really whine too much about the jump bug when C9 are playing like this. Right?
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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Jul 17 '17
BIG's T-side is hella clean, but that jump-bug is disgusting
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Jul 17 '17
C9 has such a shit tier Inferno CT side, why do they even try to play this map?
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u/Moon_over_homewood de_nuke Jul 17 '17
Thoorin couldn't rant long enough to fill the gap between matches for gods sake. Fuck this major
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u/ze_gamer2 Jul 17 '17
"PGL. We've had issues with PGL at previous events. Some Valve people lobbied to bring them back for Krakow, feeling that they deserved another chance. That was a mistake. PGL is an ass, and we won't be working with them again."
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Jul 17 '17
Since its "off stream" wont all drops go to players and observers?
Its a fcking inside job to get all the drops.
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u/Moon_over_homewood de_nuke Jul 17 '17
This is just embarrassing. The Shanghai dota2 major couldn't have been worse than this, right?
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u/RavenousPonies de_cobble Jul 17 '17
According to the stream on G2's facebook they are NOT actually playing the match offline.
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u/Roohd FURIA Jul 17 '17
The major of PGL is currently one of the worst major i ever see. Plox volvo bring back the MLG to make it a decent major.
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u/SoerenMoeren NiP Jul 17 '17
Sapphire is streaming the game on twitter https://twitter.com/sapphiReCSGO/status/887005130494664708
score is 15-7 rn
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u/VHD_ Complexity Jul 17 '17
LIVE (somehow!) http://imgur.com/a/SNzRi
Glad there is a sense of humor here :)
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Jul 17 '17
Feels like this tournament is rewarding teams that use teamwork a lot. BIG and Gambit have two play-styles that are extremely teamworky. SK as well, can't wait to see how they fare later on.
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Jul 17 '17
Cold: 35 kills in 24 rounds versus the second best team in the world. Not that bad i guess.
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u/dgentz Jul 17 '17
I know a lot of people will dismiss this as an excuse but, this is totally fucked: https://twitter.com/Stewie/status/886999553806917632
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u/gonnj FaZe Jul 17 '17
DONT LET THE TECHNICAL ISSUES DISTRACT YOU FROM THE FACT THAT SHROUD IS 1-16
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u/nossdivar Jul 17 '17
From PGL's twitter: "Due to technical difficulties the @BIGCLANgg vs @Cloud9 match will be finished off stream. #pglmajor"
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u/Znaszlisiora Jul 17 '17
It's a curse. Whenever the servers start lagging, the entire stream goes down soon after. What a miserable major so far. Imagine if this shit happens in the stadium.
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u/Thera_sq Jul 17 '17
i think both teams are unhappy with the server they're saying they're experiencing lags
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u/Marieyah Jul 17 '17
The gaps between the games is kinda painful. I'm probably going to watch vods now, although I might tune in for SK Astralis.
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Jul 17 '17
I didn't really understand how horrible that jump bug was until the T in pit used it on the retake. So much worse late round than it is early.
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u/aN1mosity_ 5 years coin Jul 17 '17
Cloud9 Map Veto
Cloud9: Hey, didn't BIG completely wreck a favorite to win the major on Inferno yesterday? If we want to get out of groups, let's play them on that.
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u/theRobertOppenheimer CS2 HYPE Jul 17 '17
What the fuck is going on with tabsen.. this guy is just insane
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u/Lilfai Natus Vincere Jul 17 '17
PGL giving ESL run for their money as the standard of the industry LUL
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u/TheBestMaN98 G2 Jul 17 '17
There goes PGL's chances for another major, they had a good (debatable) run
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u/n1ckst4r02 400k Celebration Jul 17 '17
Shroud said the fps is awful ( Gotv chat ). I hope to god PGL never gets another Major Spot ever again. Absolutely awful production and preparation.
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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Jul 17 '17
Hopefully MLG, DH or even ESL gets the next Major, such awful production for a Major. Every match there's a goddamn tech issue.
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u/NoNamesAvaiIable FURIA Jul 17 '17
And here i was worried that i wouldnt make it in time from work to watch SK vs Astralis, i'm gonna get home and they wont even have started lol
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u/sniparsdogg 5 years coin Jul 17 '17
https://clips.twitch.tv/ZanySleepyCamelArgieB8 this major in a nutshell
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u/dasbrot1337 Natus Vincere Jul 17 '17
I bet FNC vs VP has to be delayed because at that point it will be like 1:00 A.M. in CEST
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u/srjnp de_dust2 Jul 17 '17
Due to technical difficulties the @BIGCLANgg vs @Cloud9 match will be finished off stream. #pglmajor
LMAO
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u/RavenousPonies de_cobble Jul 17 '17
From G2's Facebook stream: The match is NOT going on(as of now), Admins said it will be back "shortly".
They are NOT being DDOS'd, the internet is still online.
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Jul 17 '17
this has been going on for 8 and a half hours++ and theres still 3 and a half games left wtf
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u/psych4191 Jul 17 '17
Shroud's comp didn't even have video drivers, according to Stew's twitter. What the fuck, PGL.
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u/sderttreds Jul 17 '17
brings me back memories when gaben fired the entire production crew (keytv) at shanghai major
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u/MrBananaStorm Renegades Jul 17 '17
C9 is making a comeback so happy I can watch this happen live by spamming f5 on the HLTV page.
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u/lamp4321 valeria Jul 17 '17
Did PGL admin just really ask for the only source feed of the game to stop getting access to viewing the game??? HAHAH ARE YOU KIDDING ME
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u/WickedFM 10 years coin Jul 17 '17
Can someone make a meme ' cracking a cold site with the boys' featuring fallen with sk?
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u/XiaoRCT CS2 HYPE Jul 17 '17
I mean, sure, dupreeh could've planted right there, but like the casters said at that point you either plant and die to a peek or fake and prepare to kill the dude before the round ends.
They just didn't know fer was still B, which only worked because cold got 2 kills on a 3x1
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u/Fucc-cloud9 Jul 17 '17
35 kills from cold in only a 24 round game vs. one of the best teams in the world...it's indisputable, cold is the best player in the world
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u/intecknicolour NiP Jul 17 '17
the feel when VP say they be lucky to make it to playoffs.
GLOBAL ELITE LEVEL SANDBAGGING.
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Jul 17 '17
lmfao worst major production in like 3 years.
honestly just give all the majors to ELeague
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u/AemonDK Jul 17 '17
i love the fact none of the coaches are using the multi screens pgl offers. feel vindicated after arguing with idiots who thought it was a big change
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u/mdyox Virtus.pro Jul 17 '17
FaZe 0-2, and i can't believe they go 0-3. It is impossible
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u/onenight1234 Jul 17 '17
Hopefully this means there won't be 30 min gaps between games at least.
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u/metrize Jul 17 '17
If you roll 10 m4a1 knights in a trade up is it guaranteed dlore?
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Jul 17 '17
last game was delayed by tech pause for 30 minutes
now we still gotta wait 20 minutes to start this one
kek
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u/gonnj FaZe Jul 17 '17
Vega using 3 HE, 3 Molotovs and 1 flash JUST TO CLEAR LADDER ROOM, really really bad utility management
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u/metrize Jul 17 '17
please just play the games... even the host was complaining yesterday about how long this is...
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u/nylan1 Astralis Jul 17 '17
the hell is stewie doing in banana trying to pick up that awp? He literally won the round and then threw it away
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u/ibuycheats Jul 17 '17
20 minute postgame
10 minute break
20 minute pregame
20 minutes staring at players faces