r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Nov 18 '25

Dating advice The INTP lovestyle

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I’ve seen a lot of people wondering how to tell if an INTP loves you, and honestly, many INTPs themselves don’t even realize it or aren’t aware of their own feelings. So I’m taking the plunge and trying to help

As an INFJ girl who’s been in a relationship with an INTP for seven years now, I’d say you can recognize their affection much more through actions than words. An INTP who cares about you wants to be around you, even without talking nonstop they simply enjoy your presence. They can stay by your side while doing their own thing. For example, mine often plays with his friends, but he always lets me know he’s there if I need anything.

When he gets goofy, teasing, or playfully “bully-ish” (mine does this constantly), it’s his way of showing he’s comfortable and attached. He asks questions, includes you in what he does, seeks your opinion, and genuinely values it. He also tends to show love through actions: paying for things, investing time, doing acts of service, or seeking physical touch. He’s not the type to say “I love you” every day, so if you rely only on words to measure affection, you’ll miss the signs. For an INTP, it’s their actions, their investment, and the relaxed, childlike side they show around you that reveal their feelings.

You also need to accept that they’re not “romantic” in the traditional sense. Forget the usual couple standards their approach is much more friendship-based. To them, you’re like their best buddy… with attraction added on top. That’s their way of loving.

Another thing about INTPs: they’re extremely detail-focused, and they notice imperfections easily. When they love you, they often try to “correct” you or convince you to change certain habits. It’s honestly one of their biggest flaws. They don’t always express it kindly, but in their mind, you’re doing something “wrong” and they think it’s obvious. They’ll invest energy into trying to help you “improve,” and they can also get disappointed quickly, become irritated, and be very critical at times. It can even feel a bit traumatizing, because sometimes it seems like they only see your mistakes or failures like they’re annoyed by everything you do.And paradoxically, since they’re not the type to "compliment" the good things you do, your mind ends up noticing only the moments when they react to your mistakes, which can make you feel like they actually hate you…

But strangely, that’s also a sign that they value you. They let themselves be impacted by your behavior. They care enough to react, to try to guide you, to push you even if the delivery is far from ideal. I struggled with this a lot, but I learned to understand it. And the important part is: despite all that criticism, they stay. They remain there, invested, committed. And that says more than anything they could ever put into words.

I’d say I’ve been through a lot with him, and it has drastically changed my view of love and all the preconceived ideas I used to have So, if I were to give you one piece of advice: don’t set any expectations for them. Expect nothing. Take them as they are and let go of all your preconceived notions about love and relationships. They are and will always be rational. They love you, but they’ll show it in a completely different way than what you might expect. The more you try to force them or beg for certain things, the more you’ll push them away they literally need to be approached like cats. Over the years, you’ll come to realize this. So before getting involved with an INTP, keep what I’ve just shared in mind.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Jul 08 '25

Relationship Strife INTPs be like: “I’m easygoing, I just want authenticity.”

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But in reality… it’s a whole philosophical paradox wrapped in emotional avoidance.

What you say: “I just want a simple, honest relationship with no drama.”

What you actually do:

You ask for things that sound simple space, honesty, peace, emotional maturity. But the people who actually give you that? You either ignore them, emotionally withdraw, or assume they’ll always be there.

Meanwhile, the ones who ignore you, contradict you, or emotionally destabilize you? They somehow end up living rent-free in your head for weeks.

You claim to want harmony and no drama, but your mind becomes a battlefield over someone who literally couldn’t care less about you.

You are, at this point, the most illogical type I’ve ever seen.

You pride yourselves on logic and clarity but when it comes to love, your actions are objectively irrational. You overlook emotionally healthy people, and obsess over the ones who treat you poorly. You chase inner peace but run straight toward emotional chaos because it stimulates you intellectually.

You say you don’t like “games”, but then ghost people just to test if they’ll chase you. You hate emotional demands, but spiral if someone doesn’t intuitively understand your unspoken feelings.

These “simple” needs… come with hidden emotional terms & conditions.

You’ll say:

“I just want someone who lets me be myself and doesn’t overcomplicate things.”

But when someone actually does that:

  • You get bored.

  • You start overthinking the relationship.

  • You detach emotionally because there’s no mental puzzle left to solve.

Instead, you get magnetically drawn to people who:

  • frustrate you,

  • challenge your beliefs in the most chaotic way,

  • or make you feel like you constantly need to prove your worth.

What it actually looks like:

You idolize complexity. You subconsciously crave people who destabilize you intellectually, emotionally, even spiritually. But the kind, grounded person? The one who truly sees you, listens, accepts your weird brain and respects your space?

You push them aside. Or worse you act like they’re replaceable.

You say you're “easy to love,” but you test people’s patience like it’s a form of intimacy. You say you want honesty and comfort, but then reject it the second it shows up.

A gentle but honest reminder:

INTPs are brilliant, deep, and rich in inner life. But if you really want authentic love, you need to learn how to recognize when someone is actually good for you even if they’re not causing internal chaos.

Sometimes, the “boring” person is the one who’s loving you in the most real, consistent, and valuable way.

So, dear INTPs: You pride yourselves on being the rational type... But when it comes to love? You're the most emotionally illogical of us all even at the cost of your own mental well-being. And as Fe-doms as friends, as lovers it genuinely breaks us to watch you do that to yourselves.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Apr 27 '25

Why does my INTP do this? When an INTP starts chasing sunsets with you...

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I'm an INFP and my husband is an INTP. We've been together for almost a decade, starting as best friends. I’ve always known he wasn’t someone easily impressed, while I find beauty in little things.

It began after we moved to his hometown - a peaceful island, where the sky stretches wide and clear, and the sea is always just a glance away. It’s different from the crowded, polluted city we used to live in.

He would just laugh whenever I got excited over a rainbow or a pretty sunset, teasing me in that quiet, affectionate way of his.

But lately, I’ve noticed little changes.
Now he’s the one pointing at the sky, telling me how blue it looks, or nudging me to look at a cloud he finds funny or beautiful. He sits quietly by the sea with me, just listening.

One evening, I mentioned how bright the full moon was, but it was hidden by buildings. He didn’t say much, just told me to get in the car and drove me to a bridge where we could see it clearly, its reflection shimmering on the water. We stayed there for a long time, just watching.

He knows how much I love sunsets too. After days of bad weather, he started driving me to the beach every evening, hoping I’d finally catch one. And when we did, he smirked and said, "Still round", not because he didn’t care, but because he knew it would make me smile.

It’s in the smallest moments that he shows me the biggest love, and I don’t think he even realizes it.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Jun 29 '25

Questions about ❤️❤️ My INTP girlfriend is confused by affection… and it just makes me love her more

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She sometimes pauses when I give her genuine affection, like she's trying to run a system diagnostic on whether she deserves it or what the appropriate protocol is. It's not that she doesn't appreciate it, I think she just doesn't know what to do with it sometimes.

And weirdly, that makes me love her even more.

The fact that affection baffles her a little, but she still tries to engage with it in her own way, through thoughtful questions, deep conversations, or the occasional shy gesture, feels incredibly endearing.

To the INTPs here: Do you often feel uncertain about how to receive or express affection? What helps make it feel more natural or comfortable?


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Aug 15 '25

ENFP with a crush I have a crush on my INTP BF. 🥺

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So the thing is I'm an ENFP ( F 22). I was totally unaware of this MBTI thingy 2 years ago. Then i read about it. It's interesting. And after a lot of research and all, i finally concluded that I'm in love with INTPs. From real life crush to Fictional crush most of them are INTPs. After knowing other MBTIs specifically INFJs (i don't know why they say my MBTI is compatible with them ) and other MBTIs too. I'm telling you YOU GUYS ARE THE BEST TO DATE. First of all you guys are not liars. Rarely any INTP would cheat on their partner. I love discussing memes to philosophy with you guys. You people don't judge. You guys listen to me. You guys are logical. Some of my INTPs friends say that they're boring but no guys you're the best. So 2 months back I'm found my INTP ( M 21) he's an adorable OTAKU and a nerd. I love him. We're in a relationship. This is just an appreciation post for all the INTPs out there. And guys what do you think about ENFPs? 😅


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Mar 22 '25

I just don't get it Guys I'm Happy

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So they say that INTP and INFJ are the "golden pair." I've been talking to this girl at school that I've been friends with for awhile, and we recently caught hella feelings for each other. I mean oh my goodness, I've never met a girl like her before and our personalities compliment each other perfectly on levels I didn't even know were possible. Were both weird, silly, similar interests, likes to yap and listen to me yap, actually can respond to my random deep thoughts, we hold fairly similar values, and it's just amazing. Like literally by being myself and being kind and treating her right I pulled an absolute 10/10 INFJ girl.

Don't lose hope guys. She's out there. I'll probably give an update in a few months or something. Wish me luck.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Jul 23 '26

Why does my INTP do this? INTPs who prefer strict 50/50 relationships, what does it represent to you?

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I’m an ENTJ woman dating an INTP man who feels very strongly that bills, groceries and shared costs should always be split 50/50.

I’m not attacking that belief. I’m genuinely trying to understand what sits behind it.

For me, fairness does not always mean financial symmetry. I would happily carry more financially if my partner brought love, care, effort, support, fun and appreciation into my life. I look at the whole relationship, not each individual transaction.

So when you insist on 50/50 financially, what does that represent to you? Fairness, independence, protection from being used, or something else?

Do non-financial contributions count when you decide whether a relationship is equal?


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Sep 27 '26

INTP Care & Feeding Deep intense pure emotions

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I genuinely have come to believe that INTPs have the capacity to have the deepest most intense emotions and very pure ones out of every type.

It’s just that INTPs just don’t act on their emotions or rely on them to make decisions but absolutely can and do feel it deeply if they let it.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • May 15 '25

Dating advice Someone tell my INTP crush I’m not trying to eat him, just date him!!

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My lovely INTPs, why are you such complicated creatures? (That was a rhetorical question-I know the answer haha.) So, I’m an ENTJ-A (yes, the A matters-because you can imagine the kind of insecurities I go through), and I have a major crush on an INTP. The problem? I can’t figure out if he feels the same. One moment he’s super affectionate, and the next he disappears. And honestly, that drives me crazy!! We have talked about it. He told me there’s chemistry but that he needs time(totally understandable). Buttt…the thing is-can’t stand this uncertainty!! (To be clear: I’m not looking for anything serious right now either, because I’ve got major responsibilities to take care of first. I just want to be sure that something could develop in the future... I don’t want to waste my time on a “friendship” that, for me, will never be just a friendship) I keep looking for signs, but I’m not sure they’re real. Like-sometimes he says he wants us to go on trips together, go out to eat, play video games etc. We have deep conversations about philosophy, business ideas, daily life etc…and thennnn poof-he turns into Harry Houdini!!! Vanishes completely!! Doesn’t talk about anything. Shuts down like a clam. And I’m just sitting there like, “What the hell is going on??” I’m anxious to ask him directly-don’t want him to think I’m pressuring him. I just like things to be simple and clear, you know? Just some confirmation…like:”Are we heading the same direction???” Again, I’m not asking for labels-i just want to know that he feels the same, and let things unfold naturally without fear and doubt. What the hell am I supposed to do??

✨crying in ENTJ✨


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Aug 08 '26

I'm an INFJ with questions about love Update: we got together!

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it's been almost 3 months since I posted https://www.reddit.com/r/INTPrelationshipLab/s/jiZFrNCSQn trying to get advice on how I (INFJ) should eventually confess to my INTP

So I thought I'd give a short update if anyone remembered my post, to say that I confessed to him!

We have been together for almost 2 months now. Our relationship is going a thousand times better than I would have ever expected.

We are both very happy, so thanks for the comments! it encouraged me to confess even though it seemed like rejection was coming my way the night I expressed my feelings lol

I really treasure our deep conversations and small moments together. Either it being laughter, acknowledging our weaknesses or faults, or pouring your heart out, showing your true self to another human being who understands you in ways others just cannot. Even if they try to. It is really healing :')


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Mar 02 '26

Dating advice Finding a partner as an INTP

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How even do INTPs find their partner

I can't imagine myself ever approaching someone and I don't even spend a lot of time outside my room so not a lot of people know me so almost no chances for someone to approach me either

Additionally, I want someone who can engage with me in random topics related to philosophy or any abstract ideas, someone who can truly understand me and put up with my absurd personality. And I've never seen any woman and actually felt like she could do this


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • May 06 '25

Questions about ❤️❤️ Has any other INTP ever felt an intense connection with someone just by talking about ideas like two antennas tuned to the same frequency?

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Sometimes I catch myself thinking about certain conversations not because the topics were especially deep, but because of the sync. Like, for a moment, two minds met in the same abstract space. No social masks, just raw thought being shaped in real time.

I’m not talking about intellectual show-offs, but that kind of exchange where time disappears, and every reply feels like a natural extension of the last. Like two antennas picking up the same signal, even in the silences.

It’s strange how that can leave more of a mark than any physical encounter.
Has this ever happened to you?
And more importantly is ti truly rare*, or do we just live in a world that overlooks these micro-connections?*


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Oct 15 '26

Why do INTPs do XYZ? Do INTPs analyze people they’re interested in on a friendly level with a similar intensity/curiosity as a romantic interest?

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I’ve realized that INTPs tend to analyze people very deeply when they meet someone they’re interested in, even if it’s only a potential or ongoing friendship. They ask a lot of questions, want to know your opinion on everything, check up on what you do, read, learn, your habits etc. I’ve NEVER experienced this level of attention from any other type before. But their level of curiosity seems like what other people do with their romantic interests (I’ve misread the signs before and thought an INTP was interested in me in a more-than-friendly way). How do I know when their curiosity means more than friendship? And do you actually analyze friends/aquaintances this deeply, is this normal?


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Mar 15 '26

Questions about ❤️❤️ I am an INTP married to an INFP

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We have been together for 10 years and its been the best 10 years of my life. I mostly am just curious what other INTPs think it would be like to be with an INFP but also can answer questions if anyone wants to know what its actually like.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Jan 05 '26

Dating advice Do INTPs actually like ENTJs?

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I am an entj woman. I can immediately tell when i meet an intp and find them extremely attractive. I got close with two intps in the past and we immediately hit it off. The problem is, I can never tell if they like me back. Talking about weird hypothetical situations and abstract ideas is flirting to me, and since the two intps I knew were great listeners, I could yap for hours and felt actually understood. Also, they reminded every little detail, even the things I don't remember saying. It is easy for me to tell when i am flirting with an infp for example, but intps are just chill so i worry about coming off too strong. I know this is streotypically a good match, but does anyone actually prefer entjs irl romantically?


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Oct 23 '25

I'm an INFJ with questions about love Do INTPS run away when it gets too real?

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Do INTPS...

  1. ...like sending subtle messages to the person they like by:

  • saying suggestive things (within plausible deniability)

  • hinting that they want to spend time together

  • touching with an excuse

  • giving (personally made) gifts

  • acts of service

  • writing daily long emails/texting

...but when it comes to confessing, or talking about a relationship, they disappear?

2. ...like studying the person they like, and analyzing them, but once they figure them out or the "guessing games" are over, they lose interest?

3. ...love to stare boldly into the person's eyes for long periods while in person, but then when talking through text or email, they forget the chemistry they felt and just focus on facts? (out of sight, out of mind)

4. ...remember people they were close to/had feelings for years ago, or just compartmentalize the relationship and easily move on?

5. ...decide not to pursue someone they pursued for months/years once they realize that it is a possibility, but it would have too many complications and require too much work (be "too real")?

*or specifically YOU, as an INTP (please specify gender)

* Other MBTI types, please chime in with your experiences with INTPs around this subject.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • May 11 '25

Relationship Strife INTP & INFJ: learnings from + & - experiences

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I've had the pleasure of being close with a number of INTPs and generally find, as is typical with many INFJs I believe, a special connection with them. I truely enjoy your logic, honesty, inquiring mind and sense of humour.

However, I had an unfortunate missunderstanding with an INTP that was a painful experience because it marked the end of an otherwise rewarding relationship. It forced me to self-reflect and work on the parts of myself that were under developed.

I wanted to share a few things I've learnt from my experiences with INTPs as an INFJ:

  1. It is possible to be accepted exactly as you are and for your quirks to be enjoyed and vulnerabilities to be protected

  2. It's ok to make mistakes...just own them

  3. You have to speak up for your feelings otherwise people will fill in the gaps

  4. Ask instead of making assumptions or accept what you don't know

  5. Take time to work out how you feel rather than worrying about what the other person might feel. Try to express yourself directly...it's ok to be honest and say 'I find it hard to explain what's on my mind' if you are stuck

  6. Trust your intuition but take your time to decide what to do with it, considering different approaches

  7. Don't lose sight of what's important to you and don't minimise your feelings to cater for what you 'imagine' another person needs

  8. Missunderstandings are shared experiences and you need to work through them together

  9. Actions can of course be sincere and valid even if they don't conform to your expectations or your way of doing things

  10. You can't know what another person is thinking

  11. You have to let go of a relationship if there is no way forward but you can learn from it and take the lessons as you prioritise yourself

  12. The missunderstanding also clarified my value of trying to work together with people and promote harmony

I hope to reconnect through this post with the common humanity so often found between the two types.

INTPs: I'm curious to know what, if anything, you have learnt from experiences, both positive and negative, with INFJs.

Any INFJs - or other types for that matter - reading, happy for your input too!

Any sharing is appreciated and thanks in advance.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Nov 24 '25

Questions about ❤️❤️ INFJ woman + INTP guy — is this normal for our pairing or is he actually into me?

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Hi! I (INFJ 5w4 F) would love perspectives from INTPs or people who have been in INFJ–INTP dynamics.

There’s this guy (INTP M) I’ve known for a long time (talk about 15+years; we're both in our early 30s). We were not friends per se; just probably acquaintances in the same community. But after reconnecting recently through volunteering, it quickly started feeling… different. What’s strange is that it feels like we’re bonding before even properly talking, and I’m trying to understand if this is typical for our pairing or if I’m imagining it. For the longest time, he was very reserved — polite, quiet, hard to read. Then slowly, the dynamic started shifting in ways I didn’t expect.

Some context without oversharing (this is the NOW - I've seen the shift):

• We don’t chat constantly, and he used to take hours to respond with very technical replies. As an INFJ, this confused me a lot because he isn't DM-ing me as I would expect someone with interest would. But now when we do, he’s surprisingly warm, immediate with replies, and remembers tiny things about me. I find he replies fast when I initiate the conversation. He even double-texts now. lol

• But he mirrors my jokes, uses our small inside jokes again later, and quietly checks on how I’m doing. If not talking to me, he would repost reels or posts tailored to our "inside jokes"

• Also I've seen the shift where he calms down as if he replies to me whenever I post something calming. Like for instance he is stressed about work, I would post something calming, then he would explain to the void? Not to me - but through his posts.

• He shows up even when he’s exhausted (as in, literally no sleep + long travel), and somehow still chooses to be where I’ll be. He literally hovers in the same room where I am.

• He recognizes me instantly even when he isn’t looking up. This is crazy - I just entered a room and he straight up talked to me without even looking up.

• When we talk, his whole energy shifts — softer eyes, small smiles, lots of “hahaha” (which surprised me because INTPs are usually more dry).

• And as an INFJ who sees miniscule actions, I am surprised he does double-takes when he looks at me, the delayed reactions, the way he suddenly gets flustered and looks away.

Nothing explicitly romantic has been said. No DMs declaring anything.

But the effort, the presence, the thoughtful follow-up questions, and the way he pays attention…it feels intentional.

Honestly, this is the most emotionally stable “non-relationship” I’ve ever been in I almost feel like crying. LOL.

I guess my questions are:

  1. Is this how INTP men show interest? (Quiet consistency + showing up + small but meaningful effort?)

  2. Do INTPs attach early even without constant messaging? Because the connection feels real even if we’re only beginning to talk more regularly.

  3. What should an INFJ avoid doing so we don’t overwhelm an INTP during this early stage? I’m careful not to push or flood him with emotions.

  4. What helps INTPs feel safe enough to pursue openly? I want to give space but also show that I appreciate the effort he gives.

Not trying to force anything — just trying to understand this dynamic.

Any real-life experience or advice would mean a lot. ❤️


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Sep 23 '26

I just don't get it Giving up on relationships (F)

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I just feel like ive accepted im often happier alone than when im with someone. Sometimes the emotional burden from being in a relationship feels too much.

Men all seem to be either super clingy or super avoidant. When I try to balance out myself by finding an Feeler type, the emotional weight is too much to handle . Questions like "do u love me" pop up a lot and men tell me im cold and emotionless or they try to 'unlock' my heart too fast.

On the other hand , the thinkers are too cold and distant for me and it feels like Im always on guard too because rhe way they approach things can be too mechanical. At this point I think ive dated

Intp, istp, enfj, entj, intj, istj. I find the 'e' types more suited for me but the 'f' are too clingy and the 't' too cold.

Am stuck. So i think its better to be alone forever and go freeze my eggs just in case i ever wanna have a child.

Does anybody else feel the same way ?

Would love to hear your thoughts about it.

Im 29F hitting 30 soon


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Nov 10 '25

Why do INTPs do XYZ? The INTP and INFJ Relationship

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Initially, I wrote this as a response to the following post, but I made it a separate post since it got way too long: (“Anyone with an INFJ?”)

My whole life, I have been a very textbook INTP, and sometime, I was with a very textbook INFJ. On paper… I frankly don’t think that pair works very well because the number one pitfall in relationships is the ability to navigate its storms—and the way our functions are set up means that when you are harmonious, it is lovely and indisputably real, and strong.

However, when you are in disharmony, our cognitive functions are in such an order that it’s easy to start the relationship spiral and fail from there. In theory, it can be saved from dissolution, and I’m of the strong belief it can be prevented entirely, but it requires prior knowledge and understanding of this from both parts.

And I’ll be real with you—as much as I wish we could go without it, INTPs are frankly too naturally stupid with these matters (that Ti-Si library and its Ne-Fe offshoots cannot always save you) to be able to do this reliably without that prior knowledge. And while I also wish this sort of thing could be mended on our side alone, the INFJ also needs to be in a place to be willing to understand why any of this matters.

Both the knowledge and understanding is needed. Otherwise, both of you will be blindsided if anything happens, and to navigate without these will either take an immense amount of experience or maturity (typical of people past middle age) or a miracle in and of itself.

Let me just try to explain.

———

INTP Cognitive Functions

Most Conscious, AKA The Ego (“Self” or “Identity”)

Ti (Hero/Dominant) | Ne (Parent/Auxiliary) | Si (Child/Tertiary) | Fe (Inferior/Aspirational)

Most Unconscious, AKA The Shadow

Te (Nemesis) | Ni (Critical Parent) | Si (Blind Spot/Trickster) | Fi (Demon)

———

INFJ Cognitive Functions

Most Conscious, AKA The Ego (“Self” or “Identity”)

Ni (Hero/Dominant) | Fe (Parent/Auxiliary) | Ti (Child/Tertiary) | Se (Inferior/Aspirational)

Most Unconscious, AKA The Shadow

Ne (Nemesis) | Fi (Critical Parent) | Te (Blind Spot/Trickster) | Si (Demon)

———

I’ll use different terms for the functions depending on which aspect of them I’d like to emphasize, for example, Hero vs Dominant, or Inferior vs Aspirational.

———

The Meaning of INFJ’s Ni Hero

The prophetic aspect of Ni hero, truly is strange and observable by outsiders. There are too many times it works to deny it—the INFJ I knew did not use Ni to throw possibilities out and see which one sticks. They literally just say it once like magic, and it plays out like that:

INFJ: “(Last night) I dreamt that I couldn’t speak and you were looking for me. I kept trying to mouth it out and while I was passing by people, they couldn’t hear me. When you saw me, you asked me who I am.” (Ni dominant)

This was said at essentially, the very start of the relationship. It ended much later, over matters of identity and unfairness, aka inequality. “Who are you?” was absolutely the correct question at the root of the matter that’s been mentioned since the start.

INTP: “I don’t really know you.” I know too little, and if I look at other people I know, then there’s a clear difference in the amount of data… (Observation and comparison, Ti dominant, Si tertiary)

INFJ: “You know me better than anyone else.” (Fe auxiliary, Ti tertiary)

I didn’t even know their favorite food. Just favorite drinks and comfort foods. For the favorite, it’s a variety, but I’m still not sure… I have straight-up asked though.

I’m not sure how they do it, but INFJs seem to have this (well-documented online) ability to avoid answering questions related to them while continuing the conversation with a focus on the other person. I think that, maybe they feel like they’ve answered it… but I’m not entirely certain. Sometimes, Fe inferior can stop me from asking again, but other times, I also don’t even realize it hasn’t been answered when the answer to that question comes up because it’s needed (“I’ll cook his favorite food”) and the data is just entirely missing (“… I don’t know what that is”).

At that point, it’s easy to adapt (“Well, I know he likes this and that, so I’ll just make this…”) but we often ask straight, to get straight answers. In the cases of relationships, it’s likely and especially done to be able to adapt to the other person better. There is a slight discomfort in knowing that some things are never answered, as knowledge is somewhat tied to our inner security.

Judging functions are about reasoning and control, and ours is the very first one—Ti hero. So, INTPs can often come across as more laid-back outwardly, but we are more judgmental on the inside. It is the reverse for INFJs—they may not say much and look very serious, but their dominant function is Ni, which is perceiving and observational.

Regardless, when an INFJ says that you know them best, they meant it as you do “know” them. However, you shouldn’t take it as that. When INTPs trust someone, it’s easy to trip into the pitfall that someone’s words are always fact—we value their words and opinions a lot, and there is purity in that trust. However, people (including us) can be very often wrong and INFJs enjoy riding their feelings.

In the objective world, it meant “I am so happy and safe! You will know me completely (over time).” The INFJ did not know that their words were literally a mismatch for the premise—because they’re not wrong, just inaccurate. What they said is “true”, they just didn’t describe it well. Feelings are also a reasoning function, after all.

Don’t take it as fact, rather just adjust your approach. You will need to read into the root of their words. They literally just feel like you know them because they are immensely reserved and don’t share themselves like that with people. They genuinely think that the minimal amount of information they’ve given you (which is more than they’ve given anyone else in their entire lives) is enough for you to accurately AI generate the entire meaning of themselves as a person.

Well… I mean, if any type can do that, it can be us. But this magic “woo-woo” (as one commenter so perfectly put it) honestly needs a true depth of understanding and comprehension because it’s in every aspect of their lives, and they don’t Te auxiliary it out like INTJs. They have Fe auxiliary, they don’t want—they need, to be seen and understood. They will say “want” because they’re nice, but it’s a need. You should be able to give that.

I’ve found that it’s entirely possible for us to connect to their Ni, although we have Ni critical parent (which can actually be positive or negative). It doesn’t often manifest well without understanding it, because again, by nature of its role, it tends to come unconsciously for us, in stress. I would imagine we are absolutely terrible at explaining it because the only way I could figure out how is, “It feels wrong,” “It looks distorted,” or “I know it’s not right.”

“Vibes” have a tendency to sound absolutely dumb and irrational, instead of beautiful, when they’re described by those who do not know how to use them.

It’s truly hard to describe, but in dark times, the world literally becomes dark. Ni is very visually-tied. For me, there was a vignette, a faint distortion of everything in the mental-visual field of view. Initially, I only realized it was there when I was out of it, like, “What? Was my vision always this clear?” The more it’s stress-tested with a bit of awareness, the more identifiable it is when it comes on. You can take that Ni distortion as your warning to start moving towards your conscious functions again.

When I think of how INFJs can see the world this way in every aspect, not just in pain but in beauty, it is extremely profound and expanded what felt to be my literal brain, in such a massive way. The INFJ gave me a playlist once, and I thought I understood it. When I truly tapped into Ni while listening to it, through my want to connect with Fe, well. I’ve never tripped on shrooms, but I imagine that’s how it would feel like—everything is in everything. Never has the world been more beautiful.

I understand that Ni is both an observational process and a lens (the “subjective” intuition), but you can tell the difference when they’re hurt and the Si demon comes in to color everything. It doesn’t mean you should push them to change that, but rather just draw the distinction and use it to understand their troubles better.

The INFJ does not need to know, to know. At the same time, sometimes, there are things they really do not know. On top of that, there are times they don’t know that they don’t know and are using Ni hero to forge ahead anyway.

The best way is to take an editor’s approach—why did they feel this way? What did they want to reach? They usually just mean well (unhealthy ones to be taken into consideration, of course) so trust their voice, then trust your ability to distinguish, and gently lead them into another direction that will more easily get them the outcome they want. Don’t doubt them, but also don’t doubt yourself. You are also coming from somewhere with Ti hero, and to throw that out is to throw your tools to handle most situations away.

I’ve also come to understand that Ni is an INFJ’s “gut feeling”. It can apparently be very discernible and manifest as an instinctual, physical, bodily reaction.

INFJ: “I know it’s strange, but (…) every now and then, I get a distinct, visceral gut reaction when something happens.” (Ni dominant)

Ni is the function closest to the unconscious, and for it to be harnessed in the conscious mind is something genuinely incredible. It means a lot to INFJs, because they do strongly trust it, since it has helped them navigate through their entire life much like our Ti.

Now… Ni is very future-oriented. When an INFJ tells you that they see you in their future—even moreso if they have put aside a place for you in the literal rest of their lives, that is the biggest deal. It doesn’t matter how fast it happens, when they feel it, they trust it, and that is everything to them.

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INFJ’s Fe Parent vs INTP’s Fe Inferior

There is a great opportunity to learn a lot and flourish the relationship from here if both of you are aware it’s best at a teacher-student dynamic, where the INFJ will teach and the INTP can learn.

I’ve seen it in action while both of us were unaware of it, like this:

INFJ: “(She) is very generous, I don’t like it sometimes.”

INTP: “I see, what’s wrong with that?”

INFJ: “She can’t say no to (other people). I just don’t like that sometimes it comes at the cost of (those that should come first).” (Responsibility, Fe parent)

INTP: “But, I kind of understand that… (After all, I also find it hard to say no to people.)” (Unsaid, Fe aspirational)

Because of their roles, you need to remember that at our best (so when the INTP doesn’t hate the world), our Fe is aspirational. As in, we admire it and want to do better, but have a difficult time doing so because of the way we process everything. In this case, the INFJ’s Fe parent is amazing and admirable. They use it very responsibly. That’s exactly how we want to learn to use it.

You will not typically see clashes here for a somewhat developed pair, because INTP and INFJ typically share the same altruism for the world and for people, it’s just that all types have a love/hate relationship with their inferior function because of various reasons related to our ability to use it. For INTPs, that reason is about incompetency (“I wish that I could say this better…”) while for INFJ Se inferior, it’s about falling short of their ability to materialize ideas and ideals (“I want to be able to make this…”)

Another thing with the love/hate relationship with the inferior—for INTP, although we appreciate the human side, it’s also easy to fear people and develop paranoia, because Fe is so entwined with social dynamics. It has a very strong impact on lives, because, well, we are surrounded by people. Objectively, people are important and they have the ability to powerfully influence the outer world in a way that touches beyond anything that can be controlled.

I don’t think the INFJ will really understand what it truly means to us unless they have the knowledge equipped of why we find it important in this way, and an INTP may not know how to explain it in a way that’s understandable either. So while this can be a strength where the INFJ can lead and strong-arm in place of the INTP, like so:

INTP: “I feel so ashamed. I can’t go outside. I can’t talk to them about this.” (Crippling shame, Fe inferior)

INFJ: “I also feel shame, but the difference is that it doesn’t cripple me. I’ll take care of this for you.” (Responsibility, Fe parent)

… It can also give way to a dislike of how things are handled and a disconnection in understanding:

INTP: “Someone just messaged me out of nowhere after (bad thing happened), they’re trying to dig something up…” (Paranoia, Fe inferior)

INFJ: “(Silence)… It’s probably just a coincidence.” (Slightly bothered, reassurance, Fe parent)

In this case, turning back to Ti hero can be difficult. We do feel things and trust certain others’ opinions, and because of that, concrete reassurance is important. (“It’s a coincidence, because… here is the concrete data.”) In places where it’s difficult to get, just do your best to remove yourself from the situation for a bit. It’s usually not that urgent where a few hours will change things. In the case that it is, our Se trickster can come in, but I’ll get to that later.

If you can, disengage with Ti hero here, and Ni critical parent, because otherwise in that time you spend taking yourself away, there’s a possibility to just ruminate and feel even worse. Ideally, just feed your Ne auxiliary with something (Look, there’s a YouTube video on music theory with a clickbait title. Or, what if you did try to learn Latin? Yes, now. Open that webpage.) or alternatively, comfort yourself with Si child (a book you like to read, your favorite comfort food or drink, etc).

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INTP’s Ne Parent vs INFJ’s Ne Nemesis

The “responsible” function for INTP is Ne, and INFJs have it in themselves to have a distaste for this, as they have Ne nemesis. Aside from the definitions we already have of the nemesis function, I’d like to emphasize that the reason it is the “nemesis” (“the rival that cannot be overcome”) for any type is because it is the reversed nature of our dominant function.

After all, Ti and Te are both Thinking. In order to use that, you have to step away from the Feeling functions, and vice versa. It’s the reason why the inferior function is so difficult to grapple with for most people. I’ve noticed from the INFJ that it’s basically the same with Intuition and Sensing—the impression or synthesis, vs the concrete or here-and-now, and the reason the disconnect is so pronounced is because it’s our Dominant vs Inferior (or Demon, which I’ll get into later).

Out of everything, we first naturally prefer to use our dominant function. Since we use it so much, we understand why it’s useful—well, why don’t we use the nemesis then? If we use thinking so much, fellow INTPs, wouldn’t it be easy to use Te?

You know very well how easy it is to use, we’re not averse to looking at outside data. The reason it’s our nemesis is because we have a distaste for using it and are pointedly aware of its flaws in comparison to our dominant function. For us, I like to believe there is value in the subjective experience, in both thinking (Ti hero) and feeling (Fe aspirational). We don’t like seeing it in others because it’s a little bit wrong to sling it around—Te can be truly brutal and blind in its objectivity. Don’t worry, I’m sure we look just as ridiculous to Te doms.

I have a feeling it is the same for INFJs. They have a distaste for Ne, and the flaws are likely that it seems a bit flighty and unfocused when they want to focus on the heart of the matter and understand properly:

INTP: “(Talks, feeling like it’s about a singular topic, but actually bringing other offshoots into it. This may have taken two minutes.)” (Ne auxiliary)

INFJ: “Hang on a second, I didn’t follow that.” (Ni hero, Ne nemesis)

It’s actually possible to see this from our side with a Ne dominant, because we use Ne more “responsibly”:

ENTP: “(Bringing in several offshoots of a topic to the point it changes the subject entirely. This may also have taken at least two minutes.)” (Ne hero)

INTP: “I get (the connection), but what was the point of bringing that in?” (Ne parent)

However, our Ne auxiliary can connect with the INFJ’s Ni hero. We don’t do it the same way, but with enough data or understanding of them (manifesting the Ti-Si in combination with Ne), we can make the jump of what was in their head compared to what they said out loud. In this way, they can always be seen despite their few words.

Another way Ne parent can manifest is like this:

INTP: “You have two piggy-banks (choices). I will lay all my coins on the table, and answer all of your questions, then you can decide (on your own) where to put them.” (Ne parent)

To lay out all of the options and provide the necessary knowledge, then give the freedom of choice. We value the freedom of choice a lot for ourselves, and for others, can give the ability to make them without external pressure, as a true freedom and genuine way of love.

However, I’ve gotten the impression that INFJs don’t particularly enjoy that in a lot of situations. Of course, anyone probably wants to be free to make choices, but I believe they like having a direction to move in. In the case of our Ne parent vs their Ne nemesis, it’s just best to focus more conversationally and adapt to them. After all, we can make it a solely pleasant experience on our side by fully enjoying the challenge and flexibility of adaptation.

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INFJ’s Se Aspirational vs INTP’s Se Blind Spot

Se loves aesthetics, appreciates beauty, and physical activities like good food, or a nice workout. If they say something is pretty—that matters to them. It doesn’t matter how frequent it is, perhaps it’s just frequent because so many things are beautiful to them.

When Se is in the aspirational or inferior spot, it can also manifest as worrying about appearance (including self-image) or an unhappiness with one’s own work—perfectionism. This is more understandable when you also see that compared to INTJs, INFJs have Te blind spot. It doesn’t matter if they put their art out there and receive thousands of accolades (although they do truly appreciate them). If there’s something they’re unhappy about with it, then they wish they could have done better.

To them, with Se inferior (the unhappiness with how their own work manifests imperfectly) and Fi critical parent (the distrust of people), the act of perfection may seem like an impossible dream and an act of futility. To us, it can be a challenge that is entirely possible to portray, because we like doing new things with Ti hero and Ne auxiliary—and INFJs are normally more forgiving towards “perfection” in others until their gavel is swung. They see the beauty, until they don’t, due to Si demon.

I have reason to believe that Se can manifest as the tangibility of time. I don’t really get it either, but the INFJ would mention it as a tangible feeling. If I look at it in reverse—I can understand, because I absolutely cannot tell the time, no matter if I looked at the clock five minutes ago, or five hours ago.

I’m also of the understanding that Se can also materialize ideas into reality. In this case, I understand why the INTP gets a reputation for being a procrastination machine—always thinking, never doing. In all honesty, we can just use our other functions to “force” it. It may sound laughable, but just Ti and Fe hard enough until you realize it’s dumb to not be doing anything right now.

Again, INTP has Se blind spot. The way this can work (or the lack of it) actually crazy, although I’m sure it can manifest differently for anyone:

Even though I am an artist, my hand-eye coordination is terrible with instruments and sports. With a past partner, I’ve opened the sink to clean out all the muck while he freaked out because it smelled terrible all throughout the room, I could tell, and I mean, I didn’t really enjoy it, but I tuned out of it. Another example I’ve seen is that INTPs sometimes need to tune into a conversation happening right next to them to eavesdrop. For me, that is completely true.

If a loudspeaker starts blaring next to me for the next few minutes, I can be shocked but tune it out after a few seconds. I can also tell myself to stop feeling hungry, and I just tune that feeling out (although these may be more of a result of the Si / Se dynamic). Since I enjoy sour foods, I can happily eat a lemon straight as it burns my tongue and throat or chug half a bottle straight of its extract. (I’ve never chugged it like that again because it is bad.) Se blind spot is really unhinged, but it’s definitely still there, because strangely enough, I cannot put away my fear of bugs.

This dynamic can be a bit dangerous because once again, Se is the INFJ’s aspirational. If it can’t be felt, as long as it’s valued through the Ti hero framework you’ve built, that should be more than enough.

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The Difficulties with the Shadow

Coming off of the last section, the blind spot or trickster is named that way because we hardly have a sense for it, but it’s real and exists. So when it comes up, it can make us feel “tricked.” INTPs can feel tricked when they realize, there’s not that much time left for anything.

INFJs can feel tricked when a buttload of external data pulls up and tells them, they’re wrong. They don’t really care about that, and that’s why it can be a very sweet thing. They don’t need you to give evidence of how you feel or think, they just need your word and to feel your belief. However, like the rest of the shadow, it’s a double-edged sword. Where Se blind spot can discard the five senses, Te blind spot can discard evidence on the other side when used against you.

From my understanding, they don’t typically try to do this as they try to see where the other person is coming from. When the INFJ’s shadow functions manifest, I’ve seen that they tend to all come out together, hand-in-hand, all or nothing. This begins to make more sense when you remember that the “shadow” comes out together to protect the “ego” or “identity”, and the INFJ’s ego is often misunderstood.

In our unconscious, the trickster function typically comes out to “defend” the ego, while the demon function is what we use to “attack.” This is the last resort, instinctual, “brute-force” tactic of the types, when our other functions don’t work to solve things, and our Se-Fi combination can be exceptionally callous.

As I’ve heard, they call it the “demon” because to use it, feels so unnatural that you are selling your “soul” (or ego / identity). This description has felt true to me in both outward observation towards others, and inward reflection of my own experiences. There is a severe disconnection when I’ve engaged with Fi demon, and it is a hugely out-of-body experience. Out of control, out of reason, thoughtless, childish, and brutal. This is the nature of the 8th function, even to the INFJ’s Si demon—it’s been said that they can feel like they are “floating” and have difficulty purely engaging with Ni again.

For INTPs, even when Fi is used in a more neutral state—the disconnection is palpable and awkward, and the reversion to Ti dominant tends to happen quickly.

Ti is very important to us, but again, to use Thinking is to step away from Feeling. Both can be harnessed, but the difficulty depends on the place in the stack. INFJs double-reason: their auxiliary and tertiary is Fe and then Ti, so the switch is more natural for them.

Meanwhile, INTPs double-observe. Switching between Ne (generating possibilities) and Si (what worked in the past) is much easier than Ti and Fe. In fact, it’s more common to manifest Fe through Ti:

INFJ: “(Says something of great significance to themselves.)”

INTP: “(Oh, this means a lot because of something else INFJ mentioned in the past)… It means a lot that you told me this. I understand.” (Ti dominant, Si tertiary)

Because I’m stepping in Ti, my emotions feel so numb and weak when they occur this way. My Fe aspirational tells me that it’s horrible I don’t feel anything and need to tell my brain to give me an emotion. So great, just stop there—because when Ni critical parent comes in, it may bring in Fi demon. (“Am I not a person?”)

Then, to immerse in Fi is often to disconnect Ti. Fi can be practiced through love and continuing to try to pick out and understand your own feelings when they come up. But when you are too unsteady and unsure, you should divert to your conscious stack. Even if Ti is not often understandable to feeling types, it is not wrong, because we can more easily harness it for the best path forward for everyone involved. Also, Ti dominant means Fe aspirational—if not neutral, the reasoning is often in good faith. It blew my mind when I was a child and learned that people can just lie or say things just because.

To clarify—we do have feelings. They are just not easily picked out or sensed at all, that’s why they often come out “delayed”, with Fi last in our stack.

For Fi demon—it feels like a wall when I’m looking for it. It’s difficult to touch it, as it’s the last in the stack. I’ve often seen it described by IxTPs as “One day it just shows up and announces it’s there.” That description is so laughable. How can that be possible when everyone has feelings? But it’s true—most of the time, it genuinely feels like nothing until your insides just explode with emotion.

It’s not always anger (but that one is definitely the most destructive), it can also be good things like, happiness, love, or appreciation. One time, I got off a call from work, pulled off my headphones, and I just sat down and ugly cried for an hour, so hard I puked. The only reason I knew it was an hour is because anyone would know when their shift ends. While I was crying, I didn’t feel anything nor know why I was crying, but I couldn’t stop—it would just keep coming. After that hour I realized I was feeling gratitude for the people in my life.

That aside, Fi isn’t just inner emotions—it’s also related to self-worth. “What am I worth, what do I value?” The INTP’s values aren’t necessarily based on attachment or the Fi self, they are built over time through all four ego functions because it was logical to go there through observation. (“Being hurt feels bad -> Other people feel this too -> I don’t want to do that to other people -> It’s terrible for people to hurt others.”)

It’s easy for an INFJ to kick an INTP’s Fi (unknowingly) and Fe (knowingly). Fi can be touched on through issues of inequality (“How come when it happened to them, people thought it mattered more?”) which then touches on worth, which when repeated over time, can eventually lead to a harsh and cruel reaction—which in turn opens up your Fe to be stomped on by INFJ’s Fi critical parent, typically because they do value that a lot and don’t understand why it happens. (“Do you enjoy hurting others?”)

INFJs somewhat understand their feelings because their Feeling functions tend to be developed, and their principles are strong (but sometimes, they don’t understand how to put them into words). They do usually have developed Fi somewhat, but you need to be able to make the distinction when they’re using it over Ti, otherwise, it will really hurt Fe inferior when you take them at every word (and your functions may shift to begin defending your “ego”).

In theory, the INFJ and INTP can always connect deeply together through Fe. It loves mirroring emotions for harmony. With Fe inferior, the mirroring seems shallow and awkward (because, usually it is). Usually, it’s cute, until Ni starts saying that you may be doing it on purpose.

I’m sure that INFJs don’t typically enjoy Si demon or get gratification out of remembering things that hurt them. In that exact same manner, Fi demon is not enjoyable. It can be very thoughtless and hard to control—as it happens, you smack your hands against the wall but can’t reach Ti.

Well, should it be controlled? Yes, obviously. It’s not that INTPs should never use Fi, but they don’t typically have it properly refined. It should be practiced through better avenues, and while that is being done, the best thing is prevention in most situations. Luckily, Ti hero makes it really easy to prevent. As long as you are equipped with the adequate amount of knowledge of cause and effect, Ti-Si will usually chime in. Just listen to them.

Really, seventh and eighth Se and Fi is definitely something… to be numb to both external sensation and the feelings inside ourselves. With the demon for any type, I’ve seen that the soul can stay “sold” and the person remains unrecognizable and unhealthy for essentially the rest of time. I think that it’s best to just prevent that, as Jung believed in, by understanding yourself.

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The Meaning of the INFJ’s Door-Slam

When the door-slam happens, I’ve come to understand exactly why it is specific to INFJs. It is because of their exact function stack, and they might pull on different ones in different combinations each time, for different reasons.

Ni (Dominant) or Ne (Nemesis)

  • Ni puts them on a track for the worst possibility, while Ne can be used instead to explain why so many things can make sure the path forward will continue to be weary.

Fe (Parent) or Fi (Critical Parent)

  • From my understanding, Fe is used more for situations where others are hurt, and Fi is used for themselves being hurt.

Ti (Child) or Te (Trickster)

  • Ti can be used to reason why it’s just better to cut things off, while Te discards any possibility why it could get better in a reasonable and sustainable way.

Se (Aspirational) or Si (Demon)

  • Se laments the loss of a beautiful and perfect experience, while Si stays in the worst of times.

Anyway, I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all. Betrayal is an especially huge deal to INFJs because of Si demon, and it may hurt a lot for a long while. They might not say that much, but the INFJ’s hyper-empathy is real. To protect oneself from further pain is only natural—they give a lot and feel a lot.

In their own way, the INFJ is easily swayed (because they allow you to), but when they bring down a judgment, that may change for good reason. They can be more generous in sharing their love, and at the same time, they can be more selfish. I say this because, I don’t believe that selfishness is a bad trait in conjunction to preservation—and also because I don’t believe that INTPs can door-slam.

I understand the skepticism. After all, can’t anyone cut people off their lives? I surely think that it’s possible for other types especially when they harness specific functions, but it is not specifically that “door-slam” phenomenon.

How can I know? I cannot be really, truly certain, but as a textbook INTP my whole life, I found that I cannot truly “door-slam” for the same reasons an INFJ can do theirs—because of the exact function stack we have, and the roles they play. My concrete evidence is a little gruesome but it cannot possibly be more concretely tested over a length of time (at least an isolated period of five years).

It is something intolerable except to those who struggle to sense it (lack of Se and Fi). I am avoiding description, so please take my word for its validity. Our Se is so weak, and our Fi is so very, extremely delayed. It’s easier for INTPs to be hurt over and over, then have that hurt discarded both by us (Fe aspirational) and those who have difficulty comprehending Ti dominant.

This includes having trust broken over and over again, by words that cannot be kept. Walking it off can be easier for us compared to others. By nature of the function stack, INTPs do not typically have a “sense of self” like that: I was once asked how I wanted to be loved, and the truth is that I still don’t know. “Anything is fine,” but it was true until my relationship with an INFJ, where I’ve found that I do have things that are important to me, because I did not really need to test my Fi before.

Another contributor is that our Ne can be quite strong combined with Ti. Each way forward has a different probability whether it be 99% or 1%, and despite that difference, each possibility has the same weight in our mind. It could happen. It is possible, so it means that it can be done. People can change, and so can many circumstances. Yes, this can be to our detriment. That is why the door-slam is more than sensible. On our side, I’ve found that the door is always open—our love is for you to always have the freedom to close it when you wish, without any trouble.

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These Other Links Might Be Helpful

Carl Jung’s writing on the INTP (Introverted Thinking) type is very descriptive and on-the-nose about how the unconscious destructive spiral manifests.

This is a very good writeup on Reddit about the INTP’s functions, that includes the shadow. I’ve used it many times to expand my understanding on myself, and every time I reread it, I only learn more.

This comment was extremely helpful to me, on how INTPs and INFJs have difficulty seeing things the same way because we process things very differently.

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If anyone would like to correct anything, I would be happy to hear it.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Oct 05 '25

I'm an INFJ with questions about love How to tell INTP bf to be aware of his hygiene without it being weird?

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Hi INTPs, I’m (INFJ, F) in a relationship with a male INTP. We’re both 25 y.o. Even though I was hesitant about his type because I couldn’t understand whether he’s an extrovert or an introvert, but he fits the introvert type more.

Anyways, I love him so much, I just have things to say about his awareness for his outside. He doesn’t care if he comes to the dates with a shirt that has a small hole in it, or not brushing his teeth.. He’s very tall but also fat, but because of the height it somehow looks cute on him. I talked to him about brushing his teeth and he does it before coming to dates.. but still I don’t like the smell of his mouth when we kiss and I keep giving him my cheeks instead.

I told him also I liked his beard to be shaved.. but he’s lazy to go to the barber.

I don’t know how to not embarrass him about these stuff. He’s absolutely perfect if I didn’t look at these things, but they bother me. Advice?


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Sep 07 '26

Dating advice INFP trying to understand INTP brain 🥹

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A meet-cute
INTP (24M) approached me, an INFP (27F) in public one day and asked me out. We hit it off really quickly since our first date and quickly settled into a routine. I was noticeably impressed by how his mind worked, he seemed curious about the world and the mechanics behind things. Is a full-time civil engineer but would have his own side projects, hobbies and all the while maintain a rather fulsome social life. We would spent lunchtime together once a week given that he worked in the building across from mine and i’d see him when he was in the office, he’s WFH rest of the days. He’d pick me up Friday evening and then we’d pretty much spend the rest of Friday through to Saturday together. He was quickly becoming a really prominent figure in my life. It’s been a long while since I felt this intensely about someone, the stability that INTP provided definitely helped with that. From the get-go he told me he was looking for something long-term and meaningful and because our dating goals aligned, the moment I felt like our beliefs and values were also similar I started to fall really hard really fast.

Things INTP would do that made me feel like he wanted to be with me

INTP was always intentional in how we would spend our time together, he’d look up places for dinner and pre-book them without any prompting (a responsibility that i’ve had to shoulder in previous relationships). I appreciated that he stepped in and reduced the emotional labour. He would always volunteer to drive us to places, and over time he even said he set up a little AI prompt to generate date ideas for Friday & Sat / provide him with ideas on what fun things that were on in our region. It touched me deeply. He said he told all his close friends and family about me. On hindsight I wonder if it was just a periodic update about his life and less so like an announcement of sorts. Conversely when I share about new people in my life especially if it’s someone i’m dating it tends to carry a lot more weight. INTP is also very affectionate, always reaching for my hand in public. It allowed me to be extra comfortable being very touchy because I felt like he would reciprocate.

The issue
Ive had the most blissful, easy, non-dramatic 2.5 months of my life dating this beautiful INTP. One day, on a day we are out to hiking, I notice he starts putting distance between us, he doesn’t initiate physical contact, seems closed off. It’s not a major difference but a perceptible one for sure. When we returned back to his home he asked if we could talk. He told me he was unsure of a relationship. He told me he felt an “emotional block” towards me. he couldn’t articulate what this block was, heck it seemed so nebulous in nature he didn’t even know what it was. He started explaining that the block could be caused by one of two things 1) incompatibility 2) a harrowing past relationship that ended 3 months before we met.

He explained that he thinks his mental psyche is damaged by the past relationship. this is the first time i’ve heard of issues in his past relationship. but from what he described it seemed very turbulent. he declined to provide more information. i didn’t prod further. As to 1) he couldn’t explain what the incompatibility was. He started listing all these wonderful traits I had and said I could be good for him and he said in his own words that he felt that he was self-sabotaging.

I was shattered. I had developed such an attachment I felt like my world was crumbling about me. He seemed surprised and taken aback by my shocked reaction or how drastic my reaction was. I was instantly crying and pulling away. He seemed confused but I know he was probably just wanted to update me and give me an honest opinion of where he is at.

He asked if we could keep the status quo and date each other whilst he figures out the emotional block. When asked why he didn’t tell me earlier, he said he tried to ignore it at first and when it slowly started to crystallise into something more concrete he felt it was time to share it with me. As an INFP I simply don’t understand it. If it was a lack of a spark, that would’ve been plainly obvious from the first couple of dates to me, and not after copious amounts of time spent together. We’ve spent easily 30h each weekend together for 10 weeks. I started to want to temperature audit each new interaction we had by checking in on him, and I started to unravel and become insecure in the connection. I felt the more I reached out the more he withdrew. I tried to keep my wits about myself whilst giving him space and distance. Within the week I told him we should go separate ways because the anxiety was affecting my daily functioning and I simply couldn’t live like this anymore. He agreed. He agreed that it wasn’t fair to keep me in limbo.

It’s painful because I feel like there were absolutely no issues in this connection. From my POV it was the best relationship i’ve ever had and my brain can’t reconcile all the intimate moments shared w the internal distance he felt. It makes me feel like some of it wasn’t genuine or maybe was performative on his end. Also I can’t understand how he isn’t able to express how he feels. He’s always abit emotionally constipated and I find that he’s prone to shutting down when emotionally overwhelmed. He’s opened up emotionally to me before but it’s never very coherent. He’s told me he’s got a fear of abandonment but didn’t explain context. He told me he’s going to therapy but declined to give further details.

I feel like this could’ve been a beautiful thing if not for me freaking out when he told me how he felt. I’d like for this to work out truly, I want to tell him I’d hold him steady if he’s willing to be emotionally vulnerable with me.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Sep 08 '25

I just don't get it Someone told me that my views on dating are redactive and i would like to talk about in case they are.

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So i was talking about how temporary most relationships are and despite how evident their inevitable failure is people still enter them and get hurt. Like people get into relationship after relationship and i am like did you think they were all going to workout? You didn't and still got into them?

The point the other person made was that even though a relationship isn't forever that doesn't mean it doesn't have value.

I don't really understand why i would do something that will lead to failure but then again if the other person knows it too it's like an agreement. But it doesn't seem to be that way most people just get into relationships without thinking how they will not workout long term. I don't understand casual dating at all it seems like an oxymoron to me.

Like people will say they love someone but then they break up in less than a year, why would i get in a situation like that, one where any day now my time will be up. I don't get it, i am generally very confused about how people act around dating and relationships, always have been. Like when i was in 4th-5th grade and kids would say they have a crush on each other which like how, you don't even have teen hormones which ok they might have but still. When as teens people get into relationships even though almost non will lead to marriage, it makes no sense to me. It's all so temporary and feels performative.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Apr 01 '25

Irrational Behaviors Is it just me or is the answer to every "I want to get together with an INTP what do I do" post just "be direct and confess"?

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I don't mean this just in the sense of that's what a lot of answers to those posts tend to say. I mean it more so in the sense of it being universally true that the best way to confess to an INTP is just to be very direct.

Personally, I tend to find most of these question posts bizarre for that reason: why are you asking what to do on reddit instead of just telling them how you feel? I can say I certainly wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of having to decode cryptic love confessions.


r/INTPrelationshipLab • • Jul 06 '26

I'm an INFJ with questions about love It's not a question it's an appreciation

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Hi. I don't actually have a question about love, I just wanted to say how much I like my partner ☝️

I love little things, like when I see him trying to figure out the most efficient solution to a problem. The fact that he does that just strikes me as really intelligent, and I love it.

I also really like that he isn't a pretentious INTP. He's actually very level-headed. I can tell he has a tinny ego, but not in a way that puts other people down. It's more like he'll say things such as, "I know I could do that better." I like that he channels it that way.

Even the fact that he's so calm makes me happy.

Something else I find really adorable is that, around other people, he comes across one way, but when he's with me, he suddenly becomes super cute and all soft. I absolutely love that.

I also love that I can laugh with him about so many things (especially his dark sense of humor).

I also really like that he genuinely tries to take care of me by coming up with practical solutions to problems I might have. The fact that he isn't idealistic in that sense is actually really helpful because he's quick to figure out how to solve things. He naturally looks for the most efficient approach, and I really appreciate that. On the other hand, it's not like he tries to solve everything on his own. He actually listens to what I have to say, genuinely pays attention to my needs, and then we work together to find a solution.

At the same time, since we both enjoy analyzing things, we often reflect on our relationship together and think about how to make sure everything keeps going well. In that sense, I honestly feel like I've found an incredibly healthy INTP, and I'm really happy.

I don't know. I think that just by meeting this guy, I've ended up idealizing all INTPs. They all seem so cute to me now hahah

P.S. It's not like I just started dating him. I've actually known him for three years, and the more I get to know him, the more I like him. I just felt like I needed to say it.

Yipii