The movie is soo good Im not gonna watch it ever again after watching that ending, wtf was that lmaooo

Ollie my boy you the MVP

David learned a lesson: Patience is a virtue 😭😭

The show only ran for one season (1991), but it was really underrated, IMO. An X-Files type premise, but instead of two government agents, its a kid living in a small town where everyone is strange as hell. He uncovers crazy sci-fi/horror conspiracies around every corner 😀

chilling rn and was wondering if anybody had any movie recs that have made you just feel completely horrible.

I loved movies like Hereditary and The Coffee Table because of how much hopelessness and dread I felt throughout almost the entire film/s

Hello, fellow sick puppies 👋🏻 A friend and I, having both read and enjoyed some Cormac McCarthy, were discussing his novels. One thing we touched on was the more horrific imagery in The Road book, versus the film adaption, which, although of high quality, also feels a little less horrific.

Inevitably, the topic of Blood Meridian arose and how any screen adaption would likely have to choose between faithfully depicting the page or widespread appeal.

This got me thinking: which written works are arguably more horrific than their screen adaptions? Bonus to works that haven't been adapted yet but whose rougher edges might need some "sanding down" to reach the screen?

If there are any DARKNESS FALLS fans here, I’d like to hear your thoughts about these. Mainly because, while I do personally like the film, I think that some of these deleted scenes would have improved the film.

For those of you who don’t know about what happened to the film, I’ll try to keep this basic and to the point;

The movie was originally filmed between late 2001 and early 2002. It went through several different title changes during this initial production; TOOTH FAIRY, THE GHOST OF MATILDA DIXON, THE TOOTH FAIRY: THE GHOST OF MATILDA DIXON (yes, at one point they mixed both titles together), DON’T PEEK… Apparently another title was THE TOOTH FAIRY: EVERY LEGEND HAS ITS DARK SIDE, but I couldn’t find anything to confirm this.

The original cut was said to have had negative test screenings, both with the studio and the test audiences. Expert horror movie editor Patrick Lussier, who would usually come in to help and “rescue and fix” the horror films which had similar problems, was brought in to do the same with this one, several months after the original filming. According to Lussier, the original cut had a score of 25% with the test audiences, but the new (final) version, after re-shoots and re-editing, scored at 75% in new test screenings.

No deleted scenes were ever officially released, however there was an extended TV version which had quite a few of those put back in, reportedly because the already heavily cut final version would have been too short even for a TV. The novelization by Keith R.A. DeCandido also has a lot of the scenes and other parts that were cut from the film, including the entire original background for Matilda Dixon/Tooth Fairy.

NOTE – All the following info is available in other places, and I can confirm it is true, based on the interviews and commentaries with the director and others who worked on the film, and also since I did watch the extended TV version, and read DeCandido’s novelization.

Early Scripts Differences

In earlier drafts, Michael was actually Caitlin's son, but in later drafts he was changed to be her brother.

Originally, Larry was Kyle's cousin, but in the film he is his old friend.

The death scenes of Tooth Fairy's victims were originally going to be much more gruesome. For example, Ray's dead body was originally going to be found with his jaw ripped off and teeth pulled out, however this was also changed when it was decided that the film is going to be rated PG-13.

In the script, the sensory deprivation tank was in fact MRI, just like it is in the final film, although for some reason the characters still refer to it as the sensory deprivation tank.

The scene where Kyle and Larry are attacked by Tooth Fairy after crashing their car in the woods at night was longer, and it was also going to be the first scene where she would be shown, and which would confirm how Kyle was right, and was not actually the murderer. In this scene, after she kills Larry, Kyle gets back into the car, and Tooth Fairy starts trying to break in from above, and Kyle shoots at her from the same gun he stole earlier, and when that doesn't work, he grabs a flashlight and scares her away.

In the next scene, when Kyle shows up in hospital and tells everyone to get Michael out of the MRI machine, he would also point that same gun at the doctors.

Earlier drafts also had different versions of what would cause the blackout in the third act of the film. In one version, there was a scheduled blackout since it was a resort town, and in the second version Tooth Fairy throws something into the power plant and causes the blackout.

There was also at one point a different, more bittersweet ending, back when characters would have to look at Tooth Fairy so that she can kill them. After they finally destroy her at the lighthouse, Kyle tells Caitlin how it's over, and he knows this because he has gone blind from the bright light.

Deleted Scenes and Original Cut

The film was originally rated R, and even some early promotional materials still mention this, however it was later cut down to PG-13.

Matilda Dixon/The Tooth Fairy originally had a different background. She was a young widow whose husband was lost at sea, instead of being an older woman.

The Tooth Fairy’s design was completely changed. Originally she was “a winged and toothy creature,” designed by Steve Wang, and with Doug Jones playing the creature, which was only going to show up in the ending, while in rest of the film it would be off-screen. Patrick Lussier had a hand in changing the original background for the character, along with Stan Winston who Lussier helped bring in to design a new look for her, and in the final film (after the re-shoots) The Tooth Fairy shows up a lot more times.

The town where the film takes place was originally called Point Ferry. Once it was decided to change the name into Darkness Falls, some of the scenes where the original name was mentioned or shown had to be changed. That's why, in the first scenes of the film, Kyle's room has flags with Point Ferry written on them. Some other scenes were also dubbed for the same reasons, like for example in the later scene where Kyle and Larry are driving in a car at night, it is obvious how their dialogue was changed.

Original opening with Kyle and other kids in the school classroom, talking about Matilda Dixon as part of their school project. After some girl finishes talking about her, Kyle corrects her and others, and tells the full story. Then he gets into a fight with Ray, the school bully, and stabs him in the back with a compass. This was meant to show how Kyle is maybe already mentally disturbed, and therefore an actual murderer. The opening scene in the final film, showing pictures of Matilda and with voiceover explaining who she was, was added later during re-shoots and re-edits. The extended TV version of the film includes both the new opening, and the original classroom opening scene, but only the first half (the fight and stabbing was not included), and this does cause a strange continuity mistake since this version now has two different backgrounds for Matilda/Tooth Fairy. Trailers for the film also show parts of this original opening scene.

Original version of the scene where Kyle's mom is killed. In this version, it's not shown what happens to her, and instead her death is left ambiguous, and the film cuts to the next morning where Kyle is taken away. This was meant to be a fake implication that Kyle killed her, which is why later when he's an adult he even says how Tooth Fairy is not real. Also, the reason why young Kyle is crouching over during this scene when he talks to his mom, is because actor Joshua Anderson grew taller between nine months since the original filming and the re-shoots.

The studio asked the filmmakers to write and add a scene which would explain where Caitlin and Michael's parents are. But then, when the film was being re-edited during post production, the studio asked for that scene to be cut out because it was slowing the film down.

The scene where Larry is introduced was also cut, and in the film he just shows up out of nowhere.

In the bar scene where now adult Ray confronts Kyle, there was originally a dialogue where Ray mentioned how Kyle stabbed him in the back when they were kids, referencing the original deleted opening scene. Their fight in the woods was also cut down for PG-13 rating, originally Kyle punched Ray more times.

After Kyle is brought into the police station for interrogation, there was a scene where Ray's wife attacks and tries to fight him. This is the same woman who in the final film can be seen crying in another scene at the station. This short deleted scene was also added back in the extended TV version.

There was a short extended scene, after Michael gets attacked by Tooth Fairy and locks himself in the bathroom, where Caitlin is walking through the hospital hallways next morning and talking to a doctor, who says how Michael will be alright and that they just gave him some stitches, but because they think he has started to self-mutilate himself, doctor says how Michael will need some other help, which leads into the scene in the final film where she talks to another doctor who tells her about sensory deprivation tank. This scene was also included in the extended TV version of the film.

Larry comes to the police station and demands for them to release Kyle, or else he will go to the judge and file harassment charges. This scene was also included in the extended TV version of the film.

Michael is strapped in his room and being prepared for an MRI machine, while Caitlin is watching over him. This scene was also included in the extended TV version of the film.

Short scene where Kyle arrives at the hospital and stops the car in front of it, as Michael is going inside the MRI machine. This scene was also included in the extended TV version of the film.

The scene where Henry goes to the records room inside the police station during blackout was originally longer, and Henry actually reads the files about unsolved murders, and realizes Kyle was telling the truth. This scene was also included in the extended TV version.

All of the close ups and wide shots with Tooth Fairy, like in the scene where she attacks the police station, were all added later during re-shoots, after the original version of her was changed.

An additional character was completely cut out of the film, another nurse at the hospital who was taking care of all the street cats. It's one of those cats that also jump scares Caitlin in the scene which is still in the film. The later scene, during Tooth Fairy's attack on the hospital in the third act, where others find this nurse's body covered with her cats was also cut out.

Before the scene where Kyle and others have to carefully move through the dark hallway in the hospital, there was an extended part where the doctor doesn't believe what's happening at first, so he goes back to his office, but when he sees it is dark and how something might be inside, he decides to go back with others. This scene was also included in the extended TV version of the film.

The hallway scene was also longer, and a lot more tense, with all the lights behind Kyle and others slowly starting to turn off as they keep moving. When Kyle gets to the end and sees how it's too dark to continue, he throws his keys at one of the windows which breaks the glass and lets the light shine though the rest of the hallway, and they all start to move faster. After Tooth Fairy attacks and kills the first nurse, Kyle and Caitlin hug, and then the scene continues like in the film with them running. This scene was also included in the extended TV version of the film.

A kiss between Kyle and Caitlin was cut from the ending of the film, after they defeat the Tooth Fairy at the lighthouse. After they kiss, Kyle also says "first time shouldn't taste like blood", the same line which she told him in the opening of the film, when they first kissed.

In the final scene of the film, when another young boy loses his tooth and he and his dad put it under his pillow, Tooth Fairy's creepy moans were going to be heard, however it was decided not to include sequel bait ending, so the film ends with boy's mother putting the coin under the pillow.

The ending credits had to be extended during re-editing, because after all the other cuts the film went through, it would have been too short to release in theaters.

That’s all about Darkness Falls, but as a small bonus, here’s the link for another thread I posted couple weeks ago, about an unproduced World War 2 action horror THE WATCH, which director of Darkness Falls, Jonathan Liebesman, was going to direct as his follow up to this film;

https://www.reddit.com/r/horror/comments/1xjg517/the_watch_unproduced_world_war_2_action_horror_in/

Footage of her attached to wires/harness. This shot of her hanging off the staircase is one of the highlights of the scene, and knowing it's actually her hanging there high above the ground just makes it even better.

This was one of the most original, tense, and thrilling movies I've seen in the past few years. I went in blind not knowing anything and, wow, this one threw me for a loop. Justin Long was also great. His personality just gelled with this film. He seems to appear in lots of horrors (e.g. Drag Me to Hell, Jeepers Creepers, Tusk,etc).

What are others opinions of this film?

Are there any other really weird and freaky films like this? I've seen things like Green Inferno, Cabin Fever, Midsommer, Weapons as well, all good "unsettling" horrors.

Watched this movie for the 2nd time last night with my surround sound. Truly feel like this movie did not get the credit it deserved. So well done. The build is perfect and the climax at the end is just insane to see.

Milk & Serial / Surprise can't reveal threat / Medium to Gast Pacing /

A group of friends chilling and hanging out until slowly one by one they go missing. As they frantically try to figure out what is going on time is running out and they struggle to figure out who or what is responsible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbzGQ1lszv4

Grave Encounters / Paranormal / medium pacing /

A group of ghost hunters find out ghosts are actually real. They make fun of local legends about a haunted asylum only to find out the legends are real ? Or is it in thier heads ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVB2V4gNClA

A Cold Dark Knight / no label because its a surprise/medium pacing .

Friends hanging out until some strange things happen and they don't know why. They start to explore the surrounding areas but they start fo feel like something is hunting them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyyZDcijD1c

NightBound / Paranormal , Monsters / Fast Pacing /

A man is trapped inside a house that has multiple ghosts and demons after his soul. Shorter movie than the rest here but extremely fast paced.

https://youtu.be/6ICiE4Soz9g

There Are Monsters / Suprise theme cant reveal / medium for 30 , then fast pacing the rest of the way /

A group of friends notice people a ting strange around town . Slowly they start to realize whats going on and its more sinister than you can imagine.

This movie has a super creepy factor to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2bNmIaoKpA

Vengeance X / Paranormal, Monsters , Superhero / Medium Pacing for most part , last 20 minutes real fast pacing /

A vlogger named William Floss is investigating a haunted house where a lady disappeared. The movie starts off horror for the most of the film , 30 minutes adds a little Sci-Fi , then towards the end its like Superhero vs Horror .

https://youtu.be/CNiTJIDOVJA

MallBound / Suprise can't label to preserve secret / Medium Pacing /

Parker Shaw a vlogger goes on to investigate an abandoned mall near his hometown. What he doesn't know is that it hides a secret , one that could be dangerous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jjDL3wbDA

Outbreak / Zombie / Medium to Fast Pacing /

At a medical school some student contract a virus that makes them develop a taste for flesh. Shorter than normal film but the intensity more than makes up for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeUQGzkXqK4

I think this horror movie that came out is so underrated and so ahead of time as one of the first independent films to feature a female serial killer who has a tragic backstory but was always the villain from the beginning.

Anyone else really enjoying this show about Baba Yaga. Smart, funny and great folklore. Hope it picks up steam for another season. It’s rare to find a show about folk horror that isn’t super corny.

I saw it in some kind of compilation thing but cannot find that comp any more. I dont believe it was in the Shudder top 100 but maybe I missed it upon re-watch. It was likely on YouTube but Im having no luck there either. All I remember from the scene is there is a terrified woman like sitting with her back against a wall, she either screams or gasps and simply dies. It was a bit silly looking, as she sort of hunches over sideways and is just dead. I feel like it was a foreign film, maybe in Spanish but im not sure.

I know it's pretty vague, but if anyone thinks they know, it would be greatly appreciated.

If you haven't watched it, turn back now, my question will spoil the entire movie.

Do we know how many times Justify and Cecile have swapped bodies with people prior to Luke and Caroline? As servants of the Thorpe family, were those supposed to be their original bodies, or were there body swaps before that? Were the bodies of Violet and Ben supposed to be the Thorpe children's bodies all grown up, or is it implied there was one body swap from the Thorpes to Ben and Violet?

Assuming their bodies as the servants were their original bodies, and Ben and Violet were the Thorpe kids, that's just one body swap before Caroline and Luke.

I remember going to see Jurassic Park 3 when I was 7. I still remember seeing the trailer for The Others. The last shot with Nicole Kidman asking the old woman where is her daughter, only for her to say “I am your daughter” to this day is seared into my head.

ok so if you've seen VHS Halloween, you already KNOW how disturbing Kidprint is. the sheer terror in the childrens eyes really affected me and i love found footage, and i love how the twist wasnt really a twist its just seeing what happens and wandering if you really ever know someone. Anyways, what are some similar movies? Like full length movies with that same gritty, disturbing, and hopeless horrible vibe, found footage is best. Also ones like Home Haunt, which i loved how it went from wholesome dad trying to make a haunted house to oh these children are being murdered by the decorations, or Coochie Coochie Coo which was basically a life of luxury video.

I just watched one of my favorite movies May, directed by Lucky McKee. The Woman, is also a favorite. I am also a fan of Jug Head, where he is a producer. Any other fans out there?

Recently rewatched When Evil Lurks and it fit this bill to me. The protagonist chooses poorly every step of the way and caused the downfall of his entire family. What other films qualify?

Edit: PROtagonist

Surprise to see no thread. What did you guys think? Technically horror I believe, I'd rather campy and comedic. In my opinion it was sadly neither campy nor scary enough and didn't do a great job at walking the line but Maika Monroe is deliciously unhinged in it and the little gore we get was fun!

So I’m looking for podcasts framed around haunting but it’s like they’re real. Like the ghost hunters have actually found something and now it’s hunting them.

Zombies are ok as well.