I was watching a video about the Mojave Outpost in New Vegas and the person spoke to Major Knight. The YouTuber said that there’s different interactions if your Courier is a male because Major Knight is gay. But Knight then goes on to say that that kind of thing is frowned upon but it’s accepted back West. So does he mean homosexuality is frowned upon in the NCR generally or New Vegas?

It seems weird that New Vegas area would be homophobic considering it’s kind of an “anything goes” area and things that are actually bad are allowed to go ahead. Also seems weird that the NCR would be homophobic since it’s a large, diverse, evolved population.

I know that the culture of Fallout universe is inspired by 1950s America when homosexuality was still illegal but there’s other examples of queer characters who don’t seem to face discrimination.

It seems odd to me that homosexuality would still be so prevalent in the Fallout universe. Even if the culture is 50s inspired, surely social attitudes towards sexuality would have evolved over the 100+ years (pre-War) and certainly the 200+ years (post-War).

There are far too many goddamned raiders in F4. To the point where it makes sense a faction like Caesar's Legion rose out of the chaos and conquered Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, etc.

All of them savage and violent, with only a few inbetween that show some sort of remorse through looping dialogue you can sometimes here. Some even form a sort of toll system where they extort travelers on designated checkpoints, showing some are capable of higher-order thinking. But most in F4 and fiend territory in F:NV, don't even attempt to parlay with or intimidate the Sole Survivor. They resort to aggression immediately. And there's sticks full of human corpses everywhere.

Say what you want about the main story being subpar and maybe I'm a bit biased given I play a lot of F4 on Survival Mode, but the Commonwealth is brutal. Aesthetically and gameplay-wise. Heads in fridges, hospitals with large sinkholes into a hellish firepit, hooked corpses, corpse piles under the hardware store, etc.

If the Commonwealth is any indicator of what Arizona used to be, then no wonder those tribals who were scoured and absorbed into the Legion saw Caesar as a God. Compared to settlers being violated and murdered, Legion territory is a paradise. Am I the only one who came to that conclusion by the end of Fallout 4?

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(For context) I've only played 3, NV, 4 & 76.

How the fuck did moldaver survive all this time untouched by age & radiation in the wasteland?

I was never the type to DEEP dive the lore in the games but I've traversed a fair bit of the rabbit hole in the games that I played and I can't remember anything about synths existing pre-war. Yet, the "lee is a synth" theory is the only one that makes sense to me right now.

On diamond city radio, there is a song called uranium fever by Elton Britt, in the song there are lyrics “sold my cad bought me a jeep” Cadillac and jeep aren’t canon though, so what’s the deal? I know it’s just the song Bethesda decided to add this is just an observation I made.

In 3 we find Andale. The people within, despite their unusual nature, seem to strictly mimic the 50s with the fathers going to work and the mothers being housewives. Meanwhile in 76 I could have sworn I came across a holotape where a woman was drafted for war. This is more progressive than I imagined.

the codex is making me think they are.

When you go through Kellogg's memories you see 10 year old Shaun and Kellogg but when you fight Kellogg he hasn't changed but when you see Shaun he is an old man

I'm not sure if this was explained in the game I isn't pay attention but I was always confused about this

I see this about everyday on the fallout subreddit and the fallout lore subreddit when someone mentions power armor changes.

Fallout 3 and new Vegas is much closer to how power armor has always been depicted.

Evidence 1: in fallout 1 and 2 power armor doesn’t make your character any bigger, which they could’ve easily done by scaling you up to super mutant height. Sure it would take some extra hours of art and animations but my point is that it could be done relatively easily if that is how they chose to show it.

Evidence 2: WE SEE FOOTAGE OF A POWER ARMOR SOLDIER EXECUTING A CANADIAN CIVILIAN. And it looks exactly how power armor looks in fallout 3 and new Vegas. It isn’t a giant mech suit like it is in 4, but it is a suit of Powered Combat Armor. Not a literal “walking Tank”

Evidence 3: we find enclave advanced power armor in a locker, a giant mech suit wouldn’t fit in a weapons locker .

Evidence 4: we see a few power armored talking heads, and again they are the same size as a regular Person and look exactly how power armor looked in 3 and NV not 4

So yeah can we stop spreading this around? It is literally not true at all. You can easily learn this by playing the classics that power armor, called powered combat armor is the size of normal armor just a little bulkier and a lot more durable. It was never ever shown or said to be a giant 7 foot tall 10 foot wide mech suit.

Based off all the lore I’ve seen and playing every fallout game, I believe with the utmost certainty that power armor is depicted as it was meant to be and always visioned the original devs to be in in 1,2,3 and nv. And it is simply a suit of powered combat armor as numerous people call it in game.

It is just us army combat with more protection and running on fusion cells in order to enhance the users strength and provide radiation resistance etc.

Fallout 4 power armor was a retcon do go gameplay mechanics and new artistic vision y’all. No way around it. It’s not how “it’s always been” or how “it was meant to be in fallout 1 and 2”

I've always wondered this if Sean is the father and we meet him when he's 60 how is Kellogg still alive cuz Kellogg appears to be in his mid twenties or 30s when he captures Sean so how 60 years later is Kellogg still alive and kicking and able to find us he would at least be 80 to 90 years old how is he still alive is it because of his cybernetic enhancements?

In such a small system, resources would practically have to be distributed equally just for survival. Food extruders, water, and sewage are all public things rather than capitalist services

Ok, fine, that is an ok way to organize things. But aren't the Americans in pre war fallout supposed to be rigorously against communism? Everyone eats, has a bed, gets an equal share in exchange for contributing what they can to the survival of the vault... It sounds way too communist to be allowed! How did they justify this? There needs to be wealth inequality for capitalism to survive!

Edit: I don't think you guys know what communism means

Were there any other companies that built shelters that actually worked or did Vault-Tec have no competition?

As confirmed by multiple sources, visible in the show itself, and stated in the Fallout wiki - I've been completely right all along: It's the Prydwen, operating under its codename.

We definitely do see discrimination towards Ghouls, Mutants, or Synths, but other than that, did other forms of discrimination exist?

What we see in games and find about pre-war mostly indicates infighting on political orientation/wealth grounds and, of course, hatred towards the Chinese with none or few mentions of anything related to gender/skin color/orientation.

I realise this was a conscious choice of writers to highlight other issues and forms of discrimination that are specific to this very universe.

That being said, the only example of real world discrimination I can recall is your ‘old 50s lifestyle of housewives and working men, but even that is mostly for decoration, with characters like female Sole Survivor having been a lawyer, not a housewife.

Are there any other examples of discrimination in universe?

EDIT: I have a feeling some people here can’t read or can’t comprehend what they are reading. I’m asking about examples of discrimination based on GENDER, RACE, or ORIENTATION. Chinese or communists are neither of this and I did mention them in my post.

In the games we have 0 info about this question but, in the show’s first episode in the birthday radio news say that the US president is missing, does that mean that he knew about the nuclear apocalypse that was going to happen or was him who shot the first nuke bomb to the communists?

In the Fallout TV show, we are clearly shown the Prydwen on the west coast in the 2290s. Despite having looked into this, and people having claimed that the show does not canonize any of the endings from the games - They seem to overlook the fact that in any ending that is not the Brotherhood of Steel ending in Fallout 4 - The Prydwen is destroyed. Therefore, canonically the Brotherhood of Steel has to win and take control of the Commonwealth.

Beyond that, I think it clearly shows that the NCR do not win the second battle of Hoover Dam, otherwise they would not have been in decline before Shady Sands was nuked. Further off of that when you see New Vegas at the very end of the first season - It does not at all look like what you might expect. Freeside doesn't even look like it exists, and while I understand the games mess with the scale of things (usually making them smaller) why does New Vegas just look like a few buildings in the middle of a the Mojave desert? The Lucky 38 really even seems to be the only building that's still standing. The only one that even remotely makes sense is the legion winning as then they will say they sack the city of New Vegas but then where's the Legion? The legion was pretty much the faction that controlled all of Middle America during the time of New Vegas. If Mr house is still around then where is his robot army? If we go with the independent Vegas ending - Then where is the Courier/Yes Man's robot Army?

EDIT : I'd also just like to add the lack of really any NCR presence in California makes no sense. I don't care if their Capital City was nuked. The NCR was a nation of nearly a million people with a shared cultural identity. That doesn't just go away because you blow up a city.

Conventional thinking goes that the pre-war US government was at least fascistic, if not fully fascist in nature.

There is evidence for this, namely the ultramilitarism/expansion (annexing Canada and Mexico), concentration camps for Asian-Americans and political prisoners, presence of a simultaneously incompetent yet existential enemy (The Walls Have Eyes...) that requires overwhelming force to vanquish (I really, REALLY want to meet the General that planned a land war in Asia against a nuclear superpower).

However: American Liberals also put their own countrymen in camps in WW2. Pre-war America despised organized labor, yes, but the strikebreaking robots in FO76 seem more of a callback to the Gilded Age/1920s than overt fascism. The TV show outs it more plainly, "the ranchers outnumber the sheriffs." I've recently begun reading pre-war America not as an INGSOC-type totalitarian superpower, but more of a farce that everyone knew was falling apart, and endeavored to carve out as many valuables for themselves as possible before the whole train derailed.

Frankly, that sounds more like the late USSR to me than Nazi Germany. Am I wrong or misreading anything? Is it meant to be open to interpretation?

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Love fallout and it's rich lore but personally I have no interest in tv adaptations of games it's just not my cup of tea.

But its been implied that China launched first through the games. I just saw a post talking about a conspiracy to control the world in the show I guess through nukes. Is it still canon (albeit implied canon) that China launched first and started it all? Or was it some corporate scheme?

Something that always confused me about fallout was the, to a degree, lack of devastation and detonations. In real life, if something like the Cuban Missile Crisis had gone into all out nuclear war it would have been every single US city hit multiple times over. For instance Boston during the cold war had a minimum of three nuclear missiles pointing towards it, with all the salvos within them as well, as seen by the Soviet Nuclear target map. That would've been at least 9 targeting the city alone, yet only one, small yield bomb hits it in 4. Further more while I understand that the bombs in the games weren't fusion ones like we use today instead the older fission bombs I'm mainly talking about the lack of quantity, or at least not many that hit.

Now as explained by House in New Vegas, 77 targeted the Mohave Desert alone, so it shows there was scale. However, considering the fact that the ones shot down were thanks to the effort of House alone it would be reasonable to assume that the US anti-air defence against these nukes is almost non existent so what stopped these nukes? I find it difficult to think that 77 targeted the Mohave and what, 50 more was all that was left for the rest of the United States, it'd put the reasonable number into the thousands considering just what total nuclear war would entail paired with the number of nukes hitting Nevada, spreading this across the map and taking into account all the important areas that a nation like China would target in these strikes. So where are the rest of these bombs?

I don't believe the idea that China was aiming for limited and tactical strikes either, they clearly already targetted every major US city which would do nothing but warrant a full US respond as what happened anyway. The Chinese Government while rash and in a critical state weren't idiots, and I'm sure that if this idea were true, once they saw the thousands of bombs headed their way from the US response they'd fire the rest of their bombs.

So yeah, The war was clearly an all out war. Considering our timeline and just how many bombs had been stockpiled it's valid to assume there were thousands (possibly tens of thousands) of bombs. It's valid to assume the incapability of the US air defence judging by how House dealt with 77 nukes himself, so there'd be thousands of bombs that got through to everywhere else. And it's also correct to assume that the Chinese strike was it's entire arsenal, as we see through the games that the US strike was certainly that too.

So I ask you, where are the other bombs? Why did so few detonations happen. While the world of fallout is well and truly a devastated landscape, it seriously isn't anywhere near what the reality of destruction would be.

I've heard about this alot, where the hell can i find any dialogue or peice of info on this topic? If its true then Nate is my goddamn hero and favourite protagonist EVER.

Like genuinely I'm so confused and I've never heard a good justification for it

I'm mainly talking about in control vaults. Would they tolerate it or would it be socially shunned? I imagine they would rather have everyone be procreating as much as possible. Would they have the right to marry or would it just be like a 'don't ask, don't tell' sort of thing.

Aircraft carriers

So making a fallout fanfiction in Washington so it got me thinking about aircraft carriers and the best way to utilize them in a post apocalyptic world. Should I have them as a mobile city? They run on nuclear power so the lack of oil shouldn't affect them. Or should I have just the entire Bremerton fleet be beached.

An unpopular opinion I know, but it needs to be said; the Vault-Tec plot to start the war is stupid.

I think Irl politics has muddied the waters for this debate and people seem to get unreasonably defensive over this twist. All I will say is capitalists, for all their flaws, are rational and profit oriented people. Ending the World is neither rational nor profitable, despite what House said. Also I think it’s funny some people praise the twist for showing the “evils of capitalism” despite the show being produced by Amazon.

The motive behind this scheme apparently is to wipe the slate clean so the Corporations/US government can emerge to dominate and shape the world in their image. But why wouldn’t they leave the pre-war status quo undisturbed? The US government had practically became a puppet for corporate interests and the state itself had became very authoritarian, with civil rights heavily restricted. Why then not simply consolidate your grip over America?

Well the overseer for Vault 31 said “It would be insane to keep a failed nation alive, so we kept Vault-Tec alive instead.”. The domestic situation in America was terrible yes, but no where near a “failed nation”.

Food shortages were being remedied by Robotic farms and they could use the GECK. The New Plague certainly didn’t help, but considering it had been around since the 2050’s it doesn’t seem apocalyptic and it’s scarcely mentioned in prewar records. The cut Van Buren content stated the plague killed 200,000 people in its initial outbreak in 2053 only to be contained then remerge a decade later. For reference during COVID an estimated 350,000 Americans died in 2020, so bad yes but not crippling. Then there were the oil shortages. But in the long-term it doesn’t matter, at least for America, because months before the Great War Mass Fusion had developed a Cold Fusion reactor, providing limitless renewable energy.

The International situation was going phenomenally well for America: Mexico and Canada were annexed, the European Commonwealth was in turmoil, the USSR had been sidelined by China and the Chinese were losing the war decisively. Not to mention America enjoyed the privilege of sitting on one of the last oil reserves in the World in Alaska and could easily use it for leverage.

Even ignoring all of this there is one glaring question. Why were the Enclaves preparations for the war so shit? All they had was an offshore oil rig and a handful of air bases. For the literal apocalypse and the prospect of reclaiming the wasteland and even colonising space, you would think they would have meticulously planned this and have some cutting edge bunker or even a moon base. Instead they spent decades trying to develop a virus to wipe out dirt farmers on the mainland. Furthermore, why has it taken over 200 years for the Executives to become active. Why nuke Shady Sands when you could have emerged centuries before it was even settled. After 50 years most radiation from WMD dissipates and is localised to a few pockets. So why?

Some people theorise that Vault-Tec didn’t enact their plan in time before the Chinese struck first. That would make more sense, after all House was a day late with his chip, The Ghoul’s wife, a senior Vault-Tec manager, didn’t know they were dropping that day and it would explain why the Enclave is so shit. However, it would wreck the plot (more) if that were the case. It would make the twist pointless and our villains would be less villainous if the Chinese beat them to it.

In concept I don’t hate the twist of the US starting the war. But given the context of prewar fallout and what is established in the show, it doesn’t make any sense and is poorly justified. They could answer a lot of these questions in season 2 but I doubt it. They seem to be angling House as the big bad, which on one hand who doesn’t love to see more of House. But on the other hand it makes zero sense House is involved in any of this. He made his own preparations with his own tech, but most of all is the fact the Platinum chip arrived a day late. So one of two things is possible:

1. Mr House, genius visionary that worked his way from almost nothing to one of the largest corporations in America, forgot the date or overestimated how fast he could prepare. This makes no sense given House’s character. Arrogant? Certainly. But careless House is not, there’s a reason why he always (mostly) wins

2. Vault-Tec betrayed him. They gave him the wrong date after they saw he was making his own preparations and didn’t want the competition. Hoping he would die in the war. It would make a lot of sense and could set up an alliance between The Ghoul, Lucy and House as they set out to take revenge on Vault-Tec, which would be epic. Unfortunately given that MacLean is looking for him and House’s dialogue in the trailer with the Ghoul it seems he’ll just be a regular villain.

IMO revealing who dropped the bombs first makes Fallout lose a lot of its mystique. I liked how it was left ambiguous and the series was always focused on the aftermath rather than actual war. A testament to how far humanity has fallen; too busy struggling, surviving, warring to ask why the Great War started in the first place. Because war…. war never changes

Just wondering if the Amazon series will be canon in the story and how they interpret and show the weapons and armor?

The new trailer shows the Prydwen still around, which indicates the BoS survive FO4. Also T-60 surviving significant small arms fire with no damage and fist fighting Yao Guai.