r/falloutlore • • Nov 16 '20

But seriously, the Brotherhood's vertibirds in Fallout 4 would have been the most dangerous force in the Wasteland.

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The Brotherhood in Fallout 4 are extremely fond and proud of their aerial prowess, judging from their remarks about it in game, such as Danse's dialogue on the Vertibird during the flight from Cambridge to the Boston airport. He makes it seem as if having Vertibirds on their side is some grand boon that will assure them victory. The thing is, judging from the lore surrounding Vertibirds, and the real life metrics of similar war helicopters, Paladin Danse would be totally right. Vertibirds would be the thing everything in the Wasteland fears more than anything else, Lancer-Knights being the top-guns of the Commonwealth.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case in game, due to game balance issue. Everyone is familiar with paper mache Vertibird tropes and the spitballs it seems to shoot at NPC's from it's frontal cannons. But it's ridiculous. Vertibird cannons would be chambered in something like 30mm rounds, bullets so big they'd make a .50 Cal cry, packing 202 kilojoules with each shot, that's 202,000 Joules, in comparison with the 17,000-20,000 Joules a .50 Cal round is capable of producing. It would kill almost everything it hits in almost one hit, save for some really large and powerful mutated creatures, and this is not factoring in that some of these bullets are high explosive or incendiary. People would run like hell if a Vertibird swooped down on them. In my damage scaling formula for the mod I'm working on, the Vertibirds frontal cannons would deal around 20,200 points of damage if I was being 100% with the damage.

In conjunction with this, Vertibirds in the lore are heavily armored craft. I didn't see any direct rating for what it can withstand, but an Apache helicopter today that is similarly armored is said to be able to withstand 12.7 rounds on every single part of the airship. 12.7 rounds are capable of producing joule outputs in similar range of .50 Cal rounds. That means, Vertibirds would be flying tanks, and most of the weapons in the game wouldn't be capable of damaging the Vertibird's body the way it's done in the game. Players or NPC's would need Anti-Material Rifles, Gauss Rifles, armor piercing rounds, missiles launchers, naval cannons or other specialty weapons to take them down, and especially target weakness on the craft or the pilot if possible.

The danger is, if you've got a clean shot at the Lancer, the Lancer would probably have a clean shot at you too, and obliterate you in one shot with a shower sponsored by Bloody Mess. And even on the occasions when the Vertibird turns to the side, theres a chance it could be manned by a Knight armed with a minigun that's supposed to be chambered in 7.62x51mmNATO rounds, which would deliver over 300 points of damage or 3,000 Joules per bullet in the mod I'm working on, which would also lay NPC's out to pasture. You wouldn't know if its carrying troops in T-60 power armor until it's too late, either, who would be wearing armor just as protective if not more so than the T-51b.

They would really sweep the Commonwealth. They'd barely go down, let alone for a pipe pistol. If you had one on your side, you could really mow down droves of enemies. Throwing a signal grenade would really be just as dangerous as throwing an artillery flare. Fighting the Brotherhood would really be a nightmare without specialized equipment or resources. Maybe the Railroad could produce some type of scrambler technology that decreases the accuracy of vertibirds within a certain radius of the player or something, or give the player access to T-51 Power Armor + Bulletproof clothing, stealth technology, and high explosives. Otherwise, playing against them would be a bloodbath.


r/falloutlore • • Jan 23 '21

FO4 No, Codsworth did not develop self awareness over two centuries. He was sentient out of the box and it is proven in his first positive affinity dialogue.

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There seems to be a very common misconception among Fallout fans that Codsworth was an anomaly who gained sentience after two years of unrestricted programming and having to figure out what to do about the postwar world.

This is blatantly false, and all the proof literally lies in the first ever positive affinity dialogue Codsworth has with the Sole Survivor.

People claim Codsworth wasn't sentient because he kept trying to maintain the house after the bombs fell. Yet, he makes it clear as day that he only busied himself with work because he couldn't bear the thought of the world having been destroyed.

He also says that the only thing that kept him sane throughout the two centuries was memories of Nate, Nora, Shaun, and the love and kindness they had shown him. Literally his words.

Then this concept was explored a bit further in Fallout 76. Where there is a building where you find terminal entries about the Mr. Handy workers there repeatedly having their memories wiped because they kept developing unique personalities and kept getting attached to the employees working there, which was detrimental to productive work according to management. The employees even thought this was akin to murder, but didn't protest too much to keep their jobs.

People also bring up the countless robots we encounter that try to attack us unprovoked. However, this was also clearly explained in Fallout 4. Mr. Handy robots either go insane over two hundred years, just like many humans would from the loneliness and depression, or had their parameters tinkered by their prewar owners to such devastating degrees that they lost the capability to think for themselves.

This is shown in dialogue between Codsworth and Deezer in Covenant; where Codsworth sadly remarks that Deezer's programming had been altered too strictly to allow him to engage in proper conversation. And, if you have automatrons in your settlement, Codsworth sometimes says that it's sad not all robots can think for themselves.

And finally, no; Curie did not develop sentience because her programming was tinkered to allow her greater thought capacity. The terminal entries blatantly make it clear that the only tinkering they did with Curie's programming was to make her more like some people they had known prewar, which merely includes what Curie might or might not be interested in and her mannerisms.

Edit: Why are there so many removed comments.


r/falloutlore • • Mar 15 '21

Discussion Cazadores may be even more terrifying than people realize.

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So most people who have played FNV know how powerful Cazadores are. Prior to Big MT implants, they rival Deathclaws in terms of danger, and can kill even the strongest Courier in seconds.

So I was reading the wiki page on them recently and I noticed that Joshua Sawyer said that they were based off the “Tarantula Hawk Wasp”.

These Wasps are, to put it mildly, completely horrifying. They have a specific breeding method which involves paralyzing tarantulas with their venom, and laying a single egg in its abdomen. When the larvae hatches, it then proceeds to feed on the spider, while intentionally keeping it alive as long as possible. Their sting is also the second most painful sting on the planet, second only to a Bullet Ant.

Based off that, there’s a possibility Cazadores don’t just sting their victims to death and fly away. Rather, they sting rather large prey (such as Deathclaws or Radscorpions), paralyzing them in tremendous pain, and letting them slowly be eaten alive by a larvae.

Now, in terms of evidence, I have two possible pieces. 1) Cazador eggs are pretty much exclusively found on the bodies of cazadores. There’s some Eggs in the Sliver Peak mine, but those seem to be an exception, we only find them once in a specific quest. We don’t find eggs in the Z-14, or any other Cazador area, just on their bodies. 2) In the Z-14 DNA lab, there are many mutilated bodies behind locked doors, yet when we open them, we only find 1 adult cazadore in each room.

It may be a stretch, but it was just an interesting thought that I had.


r/falloutlore • • Jul 12 '20

FO4 The Prydwen is actually ridiculously massive, and I have the math to prove it

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I just came across this post, and the comment by the OP that the Prydwen seems too small to carry a large number of people. It's something I read often here, but as also often noted, in-game distance and sizes of objects and settlements are often severly downscaled to what they are in-lore, but I was interested in how much exactly for the Prydwen, so I did the math from the one bit of info we get about the size of it (other than looking at it, which as often established here, is not always accurate): Maxson's irritated comments when the Sole Survivor questions Proctor Ingram's abilities before going through with teleporting into the Institute:

Proctor Ingram's managed to keep a 40,000 ton airship aloft for the past five years. I'd say that earns her the benefit of the doubt.

That's 80 million lbs. That's about 300 times the weight of the famous Hindenburg. It's also explicitly stated as filled with Hydrogen (though I can't find the source again in the terrible new meger of both wikis as stated during Airship Down, thanks u/AtticusOG), which has a Gross lift of 68lbs per 10.000 cubic feet, or 1,2kg/m3, meaning you need around 30 million m3 or around 1 billion cubic feet of Hydrogen to lift that weight. Following the formula for the volume of a prolate ellipsoid (which an airship approximately is), Pi/6 * A * B2, where A is the length and B is the height and width, and assuming that at least the scale to itself is correct, A being about 4 times B, puts the room allocated for the Gas alone at around 200m (~660ft) in height and width, and ~800m (~2500ft) in length.

Those estimates are assuming Maxson number is the Prydwen's max carrying capacity. If it is just it's empty weight, you'd have to add the weight of all crew and equipment, increasing the need for more lift and Hydrogen and therefore it'd be even bigger. Looking at that, it makes sense why according to Kells it took two whole years just to gather the materials


r/falloutlore • • Apr 28 '19

A brief goodbye to you all.

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Hi, everybody. This will be brief as I don't want to make too much of a scene - I just want to explain as I'm the most "visible" moderator here and don't want to leave you in the dark.

I'm stepping down from this subreddit and all other (public and active) that I moderate as I dive into the last six months of my PhD - the end of my 9th year of study. I've thoroughly enjoyed my time here, and this subreddit still retains elite status as one of the three "favourite" subs I have on my phone.

I hope to see you all around, and thanks for the good times.


This post is temporarily replacing this sticky post, which one of the others can freely put back in place of this one in due course.


r/falloutlore • • Aug 09 '20

Question So, why is everyone involved in getting you to the Vault 111 (army, operators of the vault door etc etc) just totally cool with the fact that the nukes are coming and they’re gonna die in seconds?

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I’m replaying FO4 and it bugs me. Basically you have soldiers all around Sanctuary, you have Vault-Tec workers, and folks who clearly had to be working around the Vault (with all the trailers present), and despite the fact that annihilation is imminent, they go on as if it was a regular work day.

With the army I can understand that they’re trained to lie down their lives if needed but other folks? And hell, even if they’re trained soldiers, I’d imagine that this kind of situation would impose some panic if at least not a regular, human, fear for your life... which would prompt you to protect your hide first.

The only people who are panicking are Sanctuary inhabitants who are already going into the Vault and Vault-Tec rep.


r/falloutlore • • May 25 '20

Discussion The complete lore all power armor (as of now)

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Power Armor, the quintessential piece of hardware that any wanderer would be caught dead without. Throughout the Fallout lore, the story of Power Armor has been through many hands and many different situations. Here is my complete lore of all power armor models.

Pre-War Power Armor

Power armor created for combat use before the events of October 23, 2077.

T-45

Created in 2067 as a direct response to the Chinese invasion of Alaska, the T-45 was the first-ever set of power armor used by the United States. Operators of the armor were given enhanced strength, durability, and endurance against most types of damage commonly found on the battlefield. Along with its abilities, the T-45 also required a power armor frame in order to operate fully prevented theft of individual parts. Pilots of T-45 were also given the option to scuttle their armor in the event of capture which would render the suit inoperable and unmoveable. This power armor turned the tide in the war against China and allowed the United States to be reclaiming their fallen state.

T-51

In 2074, years following the successful invasion of Alaska, the demand for more advanced models of power armor came as more American soldiers were sent to the Chinese mainland. As a result, the T-51 power armor system was developed and represented the pinnacle of mass-produced power armor used overseas. Using the same frame utilized by the T-45, the T-51 did not require a new frame saving on both cost and resources. With boosted servos and a laser reflective alloy the T-51 was more agile and protected against more different types of damage.

T-60

As the American military started to gain a footing in China and celebrated the complete liberation of Alaska, the concern of a second invasion against the American people became a paramount concern of both citizens and the Government. In response, the T-60 series power armor was developed and given to domestic peacekeeping forces like the National Guard to act as the first line of defense against hostile forces. Serving as a combination of the T-45 and T-51 armor designs, the T-60 was an agile and hearty system that made it well equipped for dealing with all forms of damage including radiation.

T-65 (AKA Secret Service Power Armor)

In the years before the Great War, civil unrest was at an absolute high. Riots were erupting in city centers across the country and miners from Appalachia were striking stopping the production of needed materials. It became apparent that the fabric of the American dream was falling apart at its seams. As a result of the growing riots, the mission of the Secret Service to protect the President became more difficult as insurgent groups like the Free States Movement started to root themselves in the population. A solution to this growing risk to the President, the Secret Service commissioned the creation of the T-65 series of power armor. Using the framework of the T-60 armor which was already regularly used by the National Guard with some improvements the T-65 armor was statically the most protective power armor. Donning this armor as protection detail for the President or other high-value assets the T-65 represented the last completed power armor produced by the United States before the Great War.

X-01

Days before the Great War development of a new set of power armor was put into effect. Due to a multitude of reasons like the growing threat of nuclear war, the X-01's production was rushed in order to get a working product out in the field before atomic fire rained down. Given to research organizations like Nuka Cola and the Commonwealth Institute of Technology to improve upon the design very few working models could be found while the rest remained as concepts. Shortly before the Great War the shadow government entity called the Enclave took the plans and preserved them for future use by sending blueprints to the Whitesprings Bunker Facility in Appalachia.

Post-War Power Armor

Combat power armor produced after the events of October 23, 2077.

Ultracite Power Armor

Conceived after the Great War through a collaboration between Lost Hills and the Appalachia Chapter of the Brotherhood of Steel, the Ultracite Power Armor was build based off of a heavily modified T-51 chassis. Using the newly found material known as Ultracite, this set of power armor was able to increase its radiation resistance and its armor. Due to the impromptu nature of the Applahcia BoS, no suits were fully constructed and currently live as schematics within the fallen BoS fort Defiance.

Advanced Power Armor Mk I (APA Mk I)

An evolution of the X-01 power armor design, the Advanced Power Armor Mk I was the result of decades of testing and technological advancement. Sealing the user against high radiation and damage, the APA Mk I was commonly used by Enclave soldiers operating in the American Wasteland. Feared by wastelanders and organized groups alike, the APA Mk I broadcasted the Enclave's superiority across the Wasteland until the destruction of the Enclave Oil Rig in 2241.

APA Mk II

Constructed under the orders of Enclave President John Henry Eden, the Advanced Power Armor Mk II became the official field uniform of Enclave soldiers in the Captial Wasteland. A significant upgrade from the APA Mk I armor used by the West Coast Enclave with design aspects similar to the pre-war power armor made the APA Mk II the last nonspecialized power armor produced in Fallout history.

Hell Fire Power Armor

First prototyped by Enclave engineers shortly after the Great War, the Hell Fire armor previously only existed as a single prototype in the possession of the ZAX Supercomputer Overseer of Vault 51. Decades later the plans were recovered by the resurgent East Coast Enclave under the direction of John Henry Eden and were put into production. The Hell Fire armor represented the second phase of the Enclave's plan for the wasteland which was to purify it of all radiation and mutation. Using the increased heat resistance, the Enclave paired Hell Fire operators with flamers to burn the wasteland into purity. As the successor to the APA Mk II, the Hell Fire armor was the last known Enclave produced power armor and is the bookend to the power armor legacy.

Nontraditional Power Armor designs

Power Armor that fulfills other purposes or was not created in an official capacity.

Raider Power Armor

After the Great War and the destruction of the United States multiple power armor frames and incomplete sets of power armor were left behind either abandoned by their operators or damaged beyond repair. What was the hight of personal protection was reduced down to fancy scrap metal to some but not all. Multiple crafty scavengers and raiders saw the rusting machinery as a chance to protect themselves from the horrors of the Wasteland. Using scrap metal and other makeshift materials, raiders were able to get the suits of armor back in working condition. Although powerful in comparison to what remained in the Wasteland, users of raider curated power armor became nothing more than giant walking hunks of scrap.

NCR "Power" Armor

Centuries after the bombs fell, a collection of settlements calling themselves the New California Republic waged war against the Brotherhood of Steel. After pushing the BoS back to their bunkers, the NCR scavenged the surviving power armor frames and made some modifications. By removing the damaged servos that would be commonly destroyed through wear or scuttling, the NCR could create a new form of "power" armor without the power aspect. Operators of this armor would often complain about the weight of the armor itself stating that "it's like carrying a Brahmin on your back". Used by NCR heavy troopers, these suits of power armor were only used in combat situations or to reinforce important NCR assets like Hoover Dam.

EX-17 Excavator Armor

Created by Gallihan Mining Company before the Great War, the EX-17 Excavator armor was to be used by miners working in the Appalachia region. Equipped with enhanced servos allowing for higher strength, the Excavator armor could carry more materials than any other official power armor design. Modifications prototyped by Gallihan also improved the perception of the suit allowing it to detect various ores to give miners better visibility while in the often dark mines.

EDIT: Added Ultracite PA info

Thanks for reading my lore guide to power armors in the Fallout Universe. If you got thoughts or if I missed something please let me know below!


r/falloutlore • • Jun 21 '24

Discussion People who say that the NCR is destined to fail because it’s “mimicking Prewar America” or that “democracy didn’t prevent the Great War so the wasteland needs a new system” need to brush up on their Fallout lore.

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Prewar America was light years from a free and open democracy, it had long devolved into an authoritarian nightmare. Just look at the enclave. If anything, authoritarianism contributed to the Great War, since both China and the US had such governments.

And what other political system would you have for the wasteland? Caesar’s legion style despotism? As if that wasn’t ALSO a much tried form of government prewar?

The NCR is literally nothing like the prewar USA and if anything, is a substantial improvement. The mistake for the NCR to avoid should be letting it’s democracy crumble like America’s did, not practicing democracy at all.


r/falloutlore • • May 31 '24

Fallout 2 Is it true that the Chosen One only beat Frank Horrigan because of plot reasons?

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I've heard some people throw around that the devs of Fallout 2 said the only reason you can kill Frank Horrigan is because you need to be able to finish the game, and that in lore the Chosen One would stand no chance against him. I've even heard that he should have survived the oil rig exploding in lore. So is any of this true or is it just rumors? Does anyone have a source where the devs say this?


r/falloutlore • • Jun 21 '20

Fallout 4: how many people know of the Institute's plan to repair and take control of a Giant Liberty Prime Sized Mr Handy?

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This isn't a meme, joke or anything like that; this is canon from what I can tell.

Its not much, but there is a line in X6's dialogue that shows up when you travel to the General Atomics Galleria with him as a companion that states and indicates that the Institute set up a project in order to commandeer and repair the Giant Mr Handy Statue, them thinking it was a genuine giant robot, and to take control of it. They called off the plan once their teams that were dispatched to actually repair the "robot" found out it was just a giant statue.

This naturally raises a lot of questions ranging from how badly they bungled recon with this since they only found out it was a statue when they went to actually "fix" it, who the hell thought this was a good idea, and what the hell was the Institute going to do with a Giant Mr Handy?

I just thought it was a hilarious bit of lore, but not many people I've talked to about this know of this little funfact. How many people have heard of this?


r/falloutlore • • Jan 21 '20

Bloatflies are a lot more horrifying than I thought they were.

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I was browsing the wiki earlier and came across the bloatfly page when I came across this little nugget of terror.

“Bloatflies attack at long range by peppering their prey with spine-bedecked larva launched from its abdomen.“

Gross right?

But no that’s not what gave me the shivers, no it’s when I thought about what happens after the larva hits, that has that particular honor. Botflies which the Bloatflies are presumably a mutant cousin of, lay eggs on other insects, called vector hosts, which in turn carry the eggs to other locations. When the vector bites a bigger host, like a cow, the eggs sense the new host's body heat and burrow beneath its skin.

Bloatflies however seem to have skipped the middleman and instead have whatever attacks them carry their babies for them. After launching their dart-shaped larva, the baby bloatfly presumably burrows into whatever it hit (creature or wastelander) and locks itself into place using the spines that cover the rest of their body, making any attempts to remove them a bloody affair that would require extensive surgery if you don’t want to die after the fact.

Tldr: Bloatflies are the ranged version of xenomorph chest-burster


r/falloutlore • • Jan 03 '25

Discussion Unlike what many wrongly believed, the fallout show proves power armor is supposed to make the user akin to a walking tank

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Old I know but I wanted to bring this up.

It has been commonly argued by many- against the obvious intention of the game creators and the lore and presentation of the armor- that power armors main purpose was simply to allow individual soldiers to carry heavy weaponry. The only piece of “evidence” people used to support this is a throwaway line about the t51 b being able to withstand “1500j of kinetic energy”, which was likely either a typo or written by someone who has no idea what this actually meant. Thus, it was commonly held that power armor quite literally couldn’t stand up to something as powerful as your average hunting rifle round.

Well the fallout show pretty easily disproves this. Maximus is shown to be able to walk directly into oncoming gun fire without suffering any noticeable damage whatsoever. In fact, we see the ghoul needed to use a high caliber armor piercing round aimed explicitly at a weak point in order to kill a user.

It should also be noted that the armor in the show is t-60, commonly believed to be an upgraded version of the T-45d. If we take fallout 76 to be canon, then it is physically inferior to the t51B, and certainly the advanced power armors, which bodes well for the protective capabilities of later models


r/falloutlore • • Jul 01 '24

Fallout 3 Why does Operation: Anchorage show an American soldier executing surrendering Chinese soldiers?

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Isn't this simulation supposed to be American propaganda that shows the U.S. as the good guys? Or is General Chase so fucked his idea of "good" is executing the surrendered?


r/falloutlore • • Feb 01 '21

In fallout new Vegas mr house says that cats are extinct. There are cats in fallout 4.

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Explain.


r/falloutlore • • Apr 19 '20

Discussion Why the Liberator robots from Fallout 76 are a genius move by the Chinese

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Liberator robots are small artillery shell-shaped robots that roam Appalachia both before and after the great war. Although typically seen as a nuisance in-game with their weak lasers and slow attack speed their lore paints a different picture.

In the years before the war, Liberator robots would be given to Chinese espionage operations across the United States. Cheap and easy to assemble, these robots would deploy in swarms and begin terrorizing the American people. To the United States Army, they were a joke as they were incredibly weak and were easily dispatched.

So this is why they are genius. Their purpose is to start civil unrest not fight.

Their armament was not inherently dangerous to average Americans. At the start of Fallout 76 as a level 1, they are literally the first foe you fight. A vault dweller could quite literally pummel one to death with their bare hands before a Liberator kills them. Their slow laser blast does minimal damage and their rotors are meant to slash when they ram into their target. Looking at the damage a Liberator could cause to a person would be injuries that would definitely leave scars. Something that will farther fuel the fear of the Chinese.

With that in mind, imagine this:

You're watching the late-night news before bed. Reports about Chinese robots attacking Americans causing laser burns and decently large gashes tell like horror stories. As you turn off your TV for the night you can hear a faint Chinese voice outside. Looking outside you find nothing but then the color red washes over you as a Liberator begins to hover right outside of your window. You call the police. They arrive and easily destroy the Liberator that has been stalking you. While you answer the questions the police ask you, you overhear another report of a Liberator attack from an officer's radio. This Liberator used its laser and killed an elderly man. The police respond to the call leaving you alone in your now-empty house. You try to go to bed but you can't know that swarms of Liberators are in your area.

In this way, Liberator robots functioned as walking and talking propaganda machines. A single Liberator was not a threat, but the idea of swarms of them was a major threat to American life. The idea of an enemy who is vast and is literally hiding in the shadows to terrorize you perfectly embodies the boogyman the Chinese wanted Americans to see them as. Along with this, most liberators contained propaganda pamphlets and other communist memorabilia inside for use by sympathizers.

This strategy also falls in line with what the Chinese have done up to this point in the Fallout Universe. The most common image of the Chinese is a espionage driven fighting force that takes every chance it can to sabotage the Americans. The Liberators represent asymmetrical ideological warfare as they appear to terrorize and disappear just as quickly. On their own, they were nothing more than a joke or a pest to anyone who could not protect themselves. But in a group, they constantly remind the Americans that the Chinese are everywhere.


r/falloutlore • • Apr 15 '21

Question Where do the boomers fuck?

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They have like two quarters for men and women individually so where are they supposed to have sex? Is it like a Spartan type practice where you're supposed to sneak your partner in or what?


r/falloutlore • • Jul 09 '24

Question When did the human ghouls realize, "hey, I'm not dying!"?

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Context: I've only played 4.


r/falloutlore • • Jun 18 '24

Why did Vault Tec order overseers to ignore "all clear" calls from the government and military?

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"Following a nuclear event, Vault-Tec will monitor hazards such as radiation levels, enemy invasion, subsequent attacks, and other factors. Once conditions are deemed safe, this terminal will receive an all-clear notice.

Upon receiving the all-clear notice, Vault-Tec personnel may be evacuated at Overseer discretion. Disregard any notices from organizations or individuals not associated with Vault-Tec, including government and military. Residents are not to be disrupted or evacuated. Vault-Tec will attend to their needs remotely once Vault 111 staff has been evacuated."

Why are they telling the overseers to ignore non vault tec all clears?


r/falloutlore • • Jul 06 '20

FO4 Why is Sanctuary in Fallout 4 deserted?

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I mean it doesn't make sense that Sanctuary is completely untouched from Raiders, Settlers or other Factions except from the Nuclear Bomb. I mean only Codsworth, Cockroaches, Bloatflies and Pre War Skeletons are there, and not a single thing like barricades, Armor, Weapons or object from other Factions are in Sanctuary.

(English is not my first Language so correct me if I said something wrong)

Edit: Thanks for the responses


r/falloutlore • • Jul 16 '21

Discussion There is no question about who dropped the bombs first, it was already explicitly stated what happened in Fallout 2. It was China.

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Now, there has been a lot of lore from Fallout 2 that has been retconned so you might take this with a grain of salt, but for the most part we actually do know exactly who dropped the bombs first. It was the Chinese.

In San Francisco it is possible to interact with the Shi Emperor, a supercomputer created by the CCP intended to run their nuclear submarine. On that computer you can access the captain's logs and read each and every one of his entries leading up to the war and then its aftermath.

He states in no uncertain terms that the Chinese had a fallback plan that, in the case of an American invasion, they would launch their nukes rather than surrender. The Americans were reaching Beijing and so the plan was set out nearly a week before the beginning of the war, with more than six days of knowing they were about to destroy the world before actually launching their nukes.

There is no mystery, we already know what it was- it was the Chinese refusing to accept that they had been defeated and deciding to destroy the world rather than let their dictatorship fall.


r/falloutlore • • Dec 05 '20

Discussion The iconic "railway rifle", A gun that according to established lore, Shouldn't even exist in Fallout 76.

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If I've confused anyone, Allow me to explain.

The lore of this weapon is odd, and causes a some minor lore problems with FO76.

In fallout 3, There's a terminal on who came up with the concept of this choo choo gun and it's creation, - Seagrave Holmes, A Merchant\inventor, Who lives in rivet city.

The terminal states the following -

"Had an idea for a survival weapon. There are all these railroad spikes laying around the wasteland. I ought to be able to build some sort of slingshot to fire them like bullets. I tried some really big rubber bands, but that didn't work. I wonder if I could use steam as a power source?"

Then Ta-Da, He came up with the design and basic concept of the weapon, It spread to other parts of the wasteland from there.

Now enter fallout 76, 145 years, before Holmes is even born...

So...Someone in WV came up with this weapon, Not Holmes...They even have ultracite railway spikes just for this weapon.

But how? Fallout 3 established Holmes is the sole, the only and original creator of the railway rifle...

I'd love to hear what you all think about this.


r/falloutlore • • Aug 02 '19

The Residents of Vault 112 are most likely unaware the Great War occured.

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When you enter Vault 112, the Robobrain tells you that you are 202 years behind schedule. That means Vault 112 closed in 2075, making it the first Vault to close. Since the Residents are kept alive in the Tranquillity Loungers and have no memories of past simulations, except Braun, they have no clue the Great War had happened.


r/falloutlore • • Dec 26 '20

FNV Mr. New Vegas is a moral weapon from House

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So I booted up my Xbox360 to play FNV for the first time in a LONG time since it's the 10 year anniversary.

I love to study media and one thing that hit me immediately is "Why is Mr. New Vegas talking and basically insinuating how easily it would be to destroy the Camp McCarran monorail?"

And then, at least where I'm at in the game (early) he is incessantly going on about how strong the Legion is, and how attritioned the NCR is.

When it hit me.

House is playing the Legion further against the NCR, and with cut content hindsight in mind, Mr. New Vegas supposedly being an AI from House.

So it would make sense that House is doing the famous Korean War and Vietnam War tactic, targeting soldier moral.

I forget the name of the supposed Korean woman who did this during the War but there would be this one radio station, played good music, but the woman would come on and talk about how many soldiers died, how spread out U.S. forces are. How the battles are stalemates. Even going so far as to insinuate GI Wives are cheating on their soldier husbands.

It's an effective and insidious tactic and seems right up House' alley.


r/falloutlore • • Feb 04 '26

Fallout on Prime Why what Caesar wrote on the letter and it's reveal was so perfect(Spoilers of course) Spoiler

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What was on the on letters was, "I am the Caesar. I am the Legion. It dies with me." and that just sums up his character right there. An egotistical man who thought there was in no way shape or form that a person could follow him.

We also get a perfect true introduction to Lacerta Legate, he betrays the only person who knows the truth, and tells nobody. For those who don't know Latin Lacerta Legate means Lizard Commander, Lizard can also mean to move in a sneakily way.