Genuine question. I’ve been inactive since I was a teen & just recently had my records removed after learning more about what the church really believes (and because I was getting sick of them tracking me down no matter where I moved), but I fell down the whole influencer Mormon culture rabbit hole and was confused by the crazy soda culture (morning Diet Coke, swig, et al) in Utah. I asked my mom “since when are Mormons allowed to drink caffeine?”and she said “there is no rule about not drinking caffeine” when I pressed her about why we grew up not being allowed Barqs root beer/Pepsi or her specifically buying caffeine-free Diet Pepsi (and driving all over town to find it) she was like I don’t know what you’re talking about. I asked a few other member and they played the same game. Tried to ask my bro, same thing… then I tried to say so coffee is fine now then? “Nope.” I asked why and he told me “because it can be addicting” - “because of the?” And he changed the subject. What is going on? And was there a secret memo to deny this? Like they can’t even cop to this change, how would they ever admit to the racism, misogyny, homophobia, etc?!

Cross posting from /r/fundiesnarkuncensored. I was told you guys might appreciate it :)

I just had three mormons come to my door and ask for a woman by name who doesn't live here. Then went on:

Man 1: we are from the church of Jesu-

Me: -sus Christ of latter-day Saints

Man 1: you've heard of us?

Me: Yes, not a fan.

Man 3: ahh, what have you heard, have you seen the movie?

Me: No. Just not a fan at all of religion.

Man 2: Do you not believe in God?

Me: No, I think structured religion enables sexual abuse and is extremely misogynistic.

Man 3: Takes a step back AND LOOKS UP AT THE SKY

Man 2: Well.. thank you for being polite about it.

Me: no worries, make sure you drink water, it's a very hot day.

I am so proud of myself for keeping cool and voicing my specific issues and not at all being aggressive. I think they were sent out on New Year's eve afternoon to see the "drunk non-believers" and hopefully they will remember what I said and how I said it.

Edit: I just told my BIL about this and he said Man 3 was probably looking at the sky waiting for me to be smote (I hope that's the wording) 😂😂

Anyone read this book? Being made into a tv show on Hulu. My non LDS I follow on Twitter were horrified and speak of nightmares. I read some of the reviews on Amazon and sorta shrug thinking ‘yeah, it’s not great but what else is new?’

Thinking of reading it. My guess is it won’t read as a horror novel (which I don’t do well with), and doesn’t even focus much on the murder itself. Reviews say it’s mostly LDS history (Joe’s wives, Brigham’s wives, that sorta thing)

Up until 4 years ago I was a faithful believer, born in the covenant. I’m Mom to four adult kids. Naturally I raised them steeped in Mormonism with the ultimate goal of marrying in the temple. In my home I have a staircase with plenty of wall space alongside it for pictures. The first picture on the wall was a “Families are Forever” pic. Then, one by one my four children married, in the temple. My picture wall grew to include 4 wedding pictures alongside each of the 4 different temples they were married in. This year, I also added a family picture that includes all my kids, spouses, 8 grandchildren, myself and their step-Dad. Both my husband and I were sealed in the temple, but have transitioned out of the church. I took a good look at the wall a week ago and felt deeply conflicted. The wall reflects the “glory and honor” of temple marriage. But I don’t like the message it sends. I don’t want my grandkids or kids to think I expect and/or am pressuring them to blindly adhere to the church’s requirements. I want them to decide for themselves the paths (church or no church) that bring them happiness and peace. Does anyone else have or did you have “the Picture Wall”? As an exmo, how do you display your kid(s)’ temple marriage pictures?

I sent a text to my parents this afternoon saying that we have decided to leave the church. Before I get these comments: Yes I am a grown adult, no I didn’t need to send a text but I felt it would make the transition easier. I posted a picture of someone drinking coffee on an Instagram business account of mine and in the caption asked how people liked their cup. My mother comments “😲😲 in someone else’s cup!” I promptly receive a message from my dad saying “so how is it that you like your cup of coffee, I would prefer mine to be in someone else’s cup!” I just gave a thumbs up back and said thanks for the views and interaction with my post, maybe it’ll get me more business. And left it at that. I’ve had the conversation with my parents before about my family not going to church. They were pestering us about where we were on Sunday’s and I would get texts like “how’s church at Costco” after sending a picture of something to them or my dad would see my location. (It’s a whole thing for another time, I don’t share location with them anymore.) But after they decided to make comments on my business I just decided to send the text so they would hopefully stop. This is what I said: “So I know we have semi talked about the fact that my husband and I have made the decision to stop going to church. It’s been a long time coming, we haven’t been to church in a little over two years. This ward out here is really bad. And so we have made the decision for our family to step away temporarily. I don’t know if we will go back when we get to (place we are moving to). We aren’t opposed to the idea but it’s not our top priority right now. We want to put our focus on being good humans and doing what’s best for our family. I know this is not the direction you wanted for our family but I hope we can still treat each other with respect and love even if some of our actions don’t align with what you believe they should. My love (our love) for you and dad and dallin is not conditional. Love you.” And this was my dad response: “Mom read me your text. We will always love you guys. We must say that it saddens us that you have chosen the ways of men rather than Christ and his Gospel as a way to temporarily live your life. We are always here for you and Christ will always come first in our lives. One thing to remember is that life will always have more joy when Christ and his Church are at the center of it. Remember, Christ never pulls away from us and he’s always waiting when we repent and return to him. We love you and will always be here for you.”

The outcome was better than I expected but hopefully the passive aggressive comments will stop now. What did bother me was the comment “Christ will always come first in our lives”. Shouldn’t it be family first? Eh at least I didn’t get lectured.

The YW in the local ward have started visiting more regularly. They stopped by to invite her to Wednesday activities, and then again to give her a birthday gift. She was blessed but never baptized.

Am I going to have to go through quitmormon.com to get them to leave her alone? Even though she isn't even a member?

If my husband and I use quitmormon.com, will the church leave our daughter alone? We were waiting for a grandparent to die before leaving, but I think it's time to just bite the bullet and do it.

I remember when I was struggling with my faith. Hearing "A Child's Prayer" I would just lose it and start crying because I never felt "the spirit."

I'm glad that's over, and I wish I wasn't born into the church and forced to experience that.

Has anyone else had a similar experience with hymns?

New Exmo Merch

Decided to try my hand at selling swag for us apostates. More fun designs coming! Hope this at least makes someone giggle.

https://www.etsy.com/shop/WheatfromtheChaff?ref=simple-shop-header-name&listing_id=1301107221

I was reflecting this morning about my god damn morning temple run tramas. Smh my mom forced me to go to the temple when I was 12 to do baptisms, under the notion that if I didn't go someone was going to be stuck in prison because of me. Looking back at that I should have thought.... Hmmm idk if God works that way and oh btw wtf!!!!???? Idk what's some weird shit your parents would say about the temple?