These furry ERP servers have taken way too fucking far, I wish Exadv1 finally banned all erotica off of the hub already, it's ruining all of our good codebases! They want to remove combat cause it bothers them while they are doing their BarRP, cause they cannot getting swiftgrabbed. I wish we could go back to 2022...

Best Station. Actual Background lore that people care about. Most admins are chill. Sec wont put you in prison for +30 minutes. Entering a different Department wont get you killed (apart from kitchen). HAL-9000 AI's in terms of annoyance. Imaginative members that are not held back by ademes. No 2h rounds on a shattered station.

Keep it up guys!!

The tittle sums it all up.

This did happen to me and it was in one of the most popular servers.

It is quite frustrating being "prevented from playing a videogame" because one, or a small handful of immature people decided they don't want you to.

I've also dealt with ludicrous admin behavior in Discord, recently being blocked from the criticism channel for using it. Of course it wasn't literally "just for using it", but there isn't even a proper reason... I was caring to elaborate points of discontent, respectfully, with the intent of providing feedback for the betterment of the server, and this person decides they don't like me saying things they disagree with, makes up preposterous reasons to block me from there and then does so.

Another admin mocked me saying "sorry I'll make sure to refund you right away", despite the very channel's description saying: " Let us hear your critiques. This channel is not for attacking or targeting other players".

There's also always the rudeness in any engagement with most of them. These people seem to be volatile, have no control over their feelings and are constantly just looking for people to bash left and right so they can feel better about themselves...

I'm starting to feel like the SS13 community is mostly made up of lunatics...

People only. Want to experience a station with just men and women. Anything like that on BYOND still kicking around?

Shut the fuck up.

I don’t like half of this servers rules. I just want to complain about it. I don’t care that they technically violated rule 1.57b subsection C part 6, I just want to salt about it a little bit and move on with my life.

The system encourages admins to overlook rule breaks by popular (either among server population, among admins, or to the particular admin) players, to harshly punish unpopular players as a means of both scapegoating and demonstrating an orderly atmosphere, and also encourages them to be biased toward finding rule violations in otherwise neutral situations.

Instead, investigating rule breaking should be its own role with its own oversight, and the results of investigation should be brought to admins to then determine proper action.

Immediate action by administrators should be relegated to egregious cases, like a non-antagonist who is currently causing mass disruption in-game.

Let's face it guys... SS13 is a rotten shell of its former self. I know most of you will disagree since you found it in 2020 so modern SS13 is all you know but.. There was a time where SS13 was a game about paranoia and surviving in a dog eat dog space station. Now..? The fun of the game has been replaced by janky ADHD-paced combat, the players are all terrible cringeworthy static characters, the sprites look like glossy dogshit with glitter on it. Let's be real here, SS13 is going nowhere fast and on the fastest downward spiral I've ever seen a game head down.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SS13/comments/krecnp/fulp_admins_are_fucking_trash/

I was officially perma banned from Fulp after making this post to reddit.

It's unfortunate, because I did enjoy the playerbase for the server, but I just couldn't just stand by and let the Shitmin's of Fulp go unnoticed for their behavior and how they treat players.

Sliggist, if you're reading, I understand that it's not that consequential that a single person like me gets out of your hair by perma banning, but it's not a coincidence that Fulp admins get shit on the daily. There's already been two separate threads on the past 4-5 days shitting on Fulp admins for incompetency and other shit.

The fact that you decided to perma ban me for that post already showcases your egocentric incompetency of having complete control over a server and not willing to collaborate with player comments if it challenges your authority.

I understand that I'll be like "swatting away a bothersome fly" to you, but this is me giving an official statement that you're a weak, self absolved person who can't handle criticism in any form, even when the person is correct in their argument. "I'm right and you're wrong, don't challenge my authority" is the markings of a petulant self-absorbed child. I can only imagine the misfortune that your personality brings to other people in the real world.

It's unfortunate that Fulp is a server run by such shitmins, because the playerbase is legitimately fun to play with it. Oh well.

Oh, by the way, the ban message given by Sliggist was "Hi reddit :)". Give a round of a applause for this wonderful human being. ( Ban ID 15881)

What happened to the days you could freely call out for Greytiders on common to aid you on your crusade even if all of you were non antag and just cause chaos (obviously not antag level chaos JUST IC chaos).

I'm talking convincing the xenobiologist to give you guys gold slimes and unleashing loads of hostile mobs at evac so that you and the gang could go space the armory and some sec lockers because they arrested you for shoving one of the officers and running away with their baton.

Or stealing caps ID while they were getting healed by the CMO and pda'ing the whole of sec and command staff to pay you so that you could release the caps id and pda only for you to sell the id to an antag .

Or better yet Thrashing botany because they took TOO FUCKING LONG doing their part to finish the fucking DNA VAULT objective, like come on botany its just 10 FUCKING plants youre telling me YOU HAVENT PLANTED 10 FUCKING PLANTS FOR 2 FUCKING HOURS!!!!! ENOUGH WITH THE WEED AND THE SPIKY NETTLE PLANT, PLANT SOMETHING ELSE SO THAT THE CAP CAN CALL THE FUCKING STATION I WANT TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

Now people think simple shoving a person into the wall is the new greytide...pfft

ERP servers are completely destroying ss13. All of the cool new non erp servers just get overshadowed by the shitty furry erp servers. The games player base is slowly fading away and getting replaced by erp gooners and I’m sick of it. I can’t even play a normal server anymore without it losing pop and shutting down, and then some new erp server opens and gets 100x the pop. I just hope ss14 continues development and the gooners stay on ss13

Yeah you're all sick of drama, especially coming from SPLURT, I know. But, sometimes you gotta air some dirty laundry as a reminder.

Codebase-wise, SPLURT is a fork of Sandstorm, which is a fork of Citadel. Citadel's codebase has included a good handful of LGBT holidays, which Bonga/Mosley has removed. See the commits involved below.

https://github.com/SPLURT-Station/S.P.L.U.R.T-Station-13/commit/87bff42dac32433d3ae1c4368d6033dfc05cf776 (archive)

https://github.com/SPLURT-Station/S.P.L.U.R.T-Station-13/commit/e43c166cdd321d2450a17ffd7f9a842776d44d8d (archive)

They even tried to make a PR to remove them from Sandstorm's codebase, but SandPoot rejected it thankfully.

https://github.com/Sandstorm-Station/Sandstorm-Station-13/pull/193 (archive)

This otherwise makes them less LGBT friendly code-wise than a majority of SS13 codebases out there, on top of the fact that Mosley is pretty much a nazifur anyways (link leads to a comment he made on Reddit before he got banned). To some of you that probably isn't anything new, but for those who are playing on SPLURT, you should seriously consider going to another ERP-accepted server. But otherwise, tgstation has a pride week and has these pride pins, Goonstation has pride outfits and pride flags (and pretty much banishes all slurs anyways), Skyrat - while separate from Citadel's codebase has mirrored Citadel's inclusion of a lot of LGBT holidays, and chances are I haven't listed everything that those three codebases have, and there's likely more codebases out there that have some semblance of LGBT related content, or a lot.

This is coming from a server that more than likely has a lot of gay & lesbian character interactions from players too in terms of ERP. For all I know, it's treated as fetishization by Mosley more than an actual LGBT thing to him, which is likely why it's not outright tossed out from the server. That probably wouldn't go well with his playerbase either if he did do that. But it should be reminded that the owner of SPLURT is very anti-LGBT nonetheless.

With that all said, happy Pride month ya'll. Sometimes you just gotta refrain from joining a server because it has pop.

I find it that imaginary species shouldn't be offensive to discriminate against, if you disagree maybe prove me wrong?

Call me crazy but this idea of admins and coders being viewed as something you should respect at all times is bad just because they contribute to the community. I've always believed in questioning authority, especially in a game that requires heavy admin intervention at times that can change the course of a round.

We've all heard stories and experienced metafriending, (or in worse cases metagrudging) admins, some incompetent ones and some pure bad ones. There is too many times where an admin goes out of their way to enforce a rule that effects no one in a round or worse actively disrupts a round because they don't like certain players in particular.

Rules should be the gold standard of what players should follow. Not the admins that enforce it. A player that is punished for something not even in the rules are going to have a terrible time since they can't effectively act as the server wants them to act (IE, the rules preventing you from EORG) because the admins decided to screw over certain players.

From speaking from ex-admins and current admins, I've heard horror stories of specific admins haunting players they don't like (and/or baiting them to break the rules) to just ban them out of dislike.

Respect is a two way street and admins sometimes do not respect the players they are in ahelp with. Of course players break that too but they can be instantly banned for it.

This even occurs with the hub that I will briefly mention that dehubbed EE controversy (honestly, it's very messy) where some servers got caught in the cross fire for just using the EE as an engine for their server which may or may not be valid. What I find extremely fucking confusing for Goob to make a NRP no rules 18+ server (as in literally anything goes like 2b2t) which is infamously majority the youngest players of all of SS14 and then advertised onto the goobstation discord and wizden doesn't do a single thing to deal with that. I feel at least hub rules 1.5 is skirting that line heavily and theoretically 1.2 since it's a no rules server where anything goes.

I got a strong feeling I will have strong contenders to this post but I stand by it. It should be obvious to say that contributes that don't abuse their power or what they do is fine and should be respected. I just do not like how some folks think that admins (or any other authority role) are completely immune from criticism.

The term adminbus didn't come from no where after all.

PS this was made on r/SS14 first but this applies here and I actually want to see how different these two communities are with this opinion.

I have played many servers for many a year, reaching 6 years now.

I can't be the only one who's fed up with the absolute tyranny that most servers are forced to put up with.

Remember, there is no fair trial, there is only the staff member, you, and the logs they check. Bias runs rampant.

An admin that prevents someone from griefing and murder boning is one thing, but one that actively seeks out players doing nothing wrong, or even better players actively seeking and achieving some sort of goal is what we actually have.

I will list some examples that I myself have had, my friends, and any instances I've seen recently that I can remember.

For example: -Restricting job roles from individuals for little to no reason -Restricting antagonist roles from individuals for little to no reason -Enforcing temporary bans for little to no reason -Enforcing permanent bans for little to no reason -Enforcing IP ban on players who have been Perma banned so even after appealing on the forums you can't join -Enforcing permanent bans for "arguing over a ticket" -Enforcing permanent bans for "inappropriate character customization" -Enforcing job bans for a player not knowing how to work said job -Enforcing temporary and permanent bans over players not knowing how to work their job

-Deciding to intervene when security could obviously and easily take care of the threat. This includes self antags, I don't see a reason for an admin to get involved unless someone is trying to actually ruin the round instead of "adding character flavor". There isn't a serial killer role, or a murderer one for that, just traitor. So anyone who wants to actually pain stakingly go through with murdering someone and hiding the body cannot actually achieve that without the admins intervening.

-Extended rounds that last at least 3-4 hours long with no conflict, no end goal, nothing to do at all, no reason to even have Sec on shift. -Picking favorites, letting the same 5 people be antag over and over again, round after round, or taking the role for themselves +Ignoring any rules that their "buddies" break while playing as antag, such as murder boning the whole server +Threats to ban, and banning players both temporarily and permanently over fighting back against the antagonist

-Generally being annoying, the admins have set up situations before in order to frame and ban people from their own servers just because they are board.

SS13's current state is pretty dire, I won't waste time pouring over it more than most have already. So,

What's left to play? (minus ERP servers)

TG and Monke I'm banned from.
Paradise is a ghost town, and even the devs/staff moved on to a different project on 14.
HRP whitelist servers are.. not my thing but if I have to play them just to squeeze a bit more life out of this game I will.
Goonstation hurts my head to look at. Seriously. No offense.

Part of me hopes there's some hidden MRP heaven that will make me feel like its 2021 again. I miss this game.

Hello, I've recently began working to make a second Ratwood themed server. It's only been up for a day, but I've seen lots of mixed opinions on the current state of Ratwood and the direction it's going into. With this server, I intend to take things in the direction of a more relaxed environment for roleplay, where people are able to more freely communicate in-game, with features such as LOOC and allowing an opt-in/opt-out for non-con scenarios.

I know a lot of people from smaller communities have voiced their unwillingness to join ratwood because of this reason, while other's only see Ratwood as their ONLY option for medieval RP that allows ERP and more Character customization. I intend to allow a more in-depth customization of your characters, while also providing added layers of safety to those who wish to opt in/out of ERP/Non-con. I understand the need for basic ooc communication, and with a background in ERP communities, I intend to steer things in the direction where they don't need to fear being shamed, judged, or put-down by others. I do not intend to offer excessive ERP protection, but there should definitely be a little bit more tailoring towards roleplay in general.

Overall, I intend to take the server in a more roleplay-driven direction where players are able to more easily express themselves. I also think there needs to be some policing of fragging and RDM, to minimize pointless round-ending. Just imagine the roleplay that can come about, if that rebel/vampire/werewolf didn't just chop off your head.

If anything, with two servers, you can now have another chance at that role you didn't get on Ratwood.

Come check us out!
https://discord.gg/WGy2K8deAc