...may be the best-placing D12 tribute to never win a Hunger Games? Since it has been mentioned multiple times iirc that D12 tributes are used to doing not too well usually.

Lemme know if the final twist still involves red gumdrops. I've read the book and I'm expecting to watch it with my aunt in two weeks. She doesn't read the books, so I figured I could so something diabolical, busting out red gumdrops for us to eat in the theater near the end, but if the twist doesn't work that way, what's the point?

Don't spoil any other movie-specific details; just answer the question, or if it's a different color, tell me.

Lemme know, thx!

For anyone who uses Twitter, just a heads up: people are posting shots from the SOTR film and not tagging spoilers. Just saw a pic from the epilogue and I’m so so sad about it.

Be careful over the next few days!!!

Like, how did the war happen? How were the HG created? What's outside of Panem, did anyone else survive? How did Lucy Gray manage to escape from the war and why did she end up losing her family and joining the Coveys?

I think a prequel would explain most of the unanswered questions

While I do agree that the deaths are no spoilers (I haven't read SOTR but Haymich wins, DUH), there's something I disagree with you about.

You people brag. You brag about having read the book, knowing everything about the lore, even the little details, and this is something most readers do. I'm gonna get so downvoted for it but I don't care.

The point of reading is culture and intelligence, you show lack of it.

So what if I just watch movies? Do you have to correct me on every theory because "oh the book said this and that" or do you really have to say my opinion doesn't matger cause I didn't read the books?

And now don't pretend like you don't say those things because I dare you to find one reader here on Reddit who didn't brag about reading the book as if it's something you don't learn in first grade.

Yes, I think the old lady who gives Katniss the pin is Lucy Gray. The books prove me wrong? Guess how much I care. That's my theory and the more you talk about the books, the more I believe I'm right, just because I hate smartass people.

Don't read if you haven't read the book.

I just re-read SOTR and the still felt the ick, when after his family was burned alive, he met lenore dove and hugged her kissed her, fed her gummies and not even once mentioned his family's brutal murder.

It's just so rushed, would'nt haymitch want solace from Lenore, wouldn't be want comfort from her.

It's like suzzane was just rushing to kill her off in the end

How can he act like his family wasnt just barbequed alive

I recently did a reread of SOTR and of course had to watch all the movies to prepare for the new movie and thought it would be interesting to see if I could spot any intentional, unintentional or just other connections between SOTR and the movies with all the new knowledge the genius Aunty Suzy (yeah I call her that cause this awesome woman raised me with her books - we love you Suzanne!!!!! <3 <3 ) has introduced in the new book. Some of them were obvious, but some I saw in a new light after SOTR. Feel free to add more or agree/disagree in the comments! <3 Of course some of them are possible interpretations and/or speculation.

Caution: Book and movie spoilers ahead. Also, these are notes, I wrote down, so I might paraprase some of the quotes.

The Hunger Games

- Before Katniss is sent into the arena, the last time Haymitch sees her, he tells her to not chase the bow and arrows in the arena, run from the bloodbath + water is your new best friend. Reminded me of Wiress arena song. First avoid the slaughter, find shelter, get water etc. Also he tells her to not to step off the pod before the time is up. Don't remember if Wiress also told him this, but I remember clearly someone gave him this piece of advice before he went into the arena.

- In the gamemakers room before they decide to start the forest fire to get Katniss closer to the other tributes, one of them comments something along the lines of "She is 2 kilometers from the edge" (of the arena). 99 percent sure this wasn't in the book, but coincedentally I just thought this line was interesting considering how much trouble Haymitch finding the edge of the arena caused.

- In the train, when they are all talking about sponsorship, I caught Haymitch commenting something along of "odds are", when talking about sponsorships for Peeta and Katniss I think. Reminded me of Wyatt the oddsmaker and how he possibly influenced Hay.

- Haymitch sending a card of "You call that a kiss?" to Katniss when sending soup. First time I saw it, it was just a funny, ironic comment. This time after SOTR, it hit different knowing Haymitch, being madly in love with Lenore Dove, knows ALL about love. In Haymitch style, it was of course still ironic with a hint of truth. Also obvious, but Haymitch callings Katniss sweetheart because she reminds him of Louella.

- In the cave, Peeta mentions the first time he saw Katniss and comments how she had two braids in stead of one at that time. *Inhales dramatically*. *Screams at lungs full capacity* : LOUELLA!!!! Aunty Suzy is a genius for connecting so many dots, we at that time don't necessarily see as important!!!!

- This one was pretty obvious and many has referenced this exact one - but Haymitch has obvious disgust seeing two Capitol kids playing with a sword as if they were in the HG. Also Haymitch being visibly upset, when all the tributes are riding the chariot rides. One thing is of course his trauma because of the accident, but another interpretation could be Haymitch being extra upset because Katniss riding the chariots reminds him extra of Louella this year.

The Hunger Games: Catching Fire

- When Snow visits Katniss, threatens her and tells her the plan (to convince him and everyone she only acted out of love and loves Peeta), he mentions her (in his POV) "indifference" towards Peeta before showing Katniss the clips of her kissing Gale. Snow of course might not know Katniss descends from Covey lineage, but I just think it's interesting how it kinda relates to Haymitch and Snows convo, where Snow describes Covey girls and basically sees them as being indifferent/dangerous/illoyal to their partners, but also very charming and also seducing. Also I think Aunty Suzy in an interview commented on Snows neverending beef with Covey girls and included Katniss in this and how they always disrupts his plans and him "keeping humankind in check" by doing the HG.

- Obvious one, but the tower in District 11, where Plutarch had a convo with Hay because it wasn't bugged. Haymitch took Peeta and Katniss up to the same tower after the man from District 11 was executed on stage. The book mentions how Katniss felt as if Hay was familiar with this tower if I remember correctly. Also in the tower, Hay hugs a crying Katniss and says "It's gonna be okay, I promise". I don't remember with certainty, but something in me says Mags said this to Haymitch or something like that? Am I remembering wrong?

- Plutarch and Katniss dance at Snows mansion. Plutarch says "Maybe you inspired me to come back". SOTR confirms Plutarch has done Capitol sabotage before and tried to find a Mockingjay forever.

- The Plutarch and Snow scene after the whipping of Gale. Plutarch mentions a 5 second delay in the live streaming. This (in movie universe only) confirms SOTR is not the only time, the Capitol uses delays strategically in their live streams.

- In the same scene, Snow says "Her entire species must be eliminated" (the Victors), then scrolls the stream to a pause of Haymitch negotiating with the Commander. Snow then says "they all pose a threat". Had a pretty obvious meaning before SOTR, but after SOTR, Snow is CLEARLY aware of Hay's past acts and thus because of Katniss and Hay especially is extra aware how dangerous the victors can be. Especially if the other victors begin rebelling too.

- When Snow is doing a speech on the speciality of and praises the Quarter Quells before announcing this years Quells rules, Hay is already visibly upset. Snow kinda takes him back to his own trauma seeing that Hay was the participant of, the winner of, and very traumatized by a quarter quell.

The Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1+ 2

- Surprisingly did not catch anything specific, but Haymitch is of course a lot less in these movies. An obvious one is Haymitch and Effies interaction, when he comments how he likes her better without all the make up and stuff, and she says I like you better sober. At that time it was a romantic subplot. Now we know they have history and could be a callback to them in SOTR.

In relation to the point mentioned above: The following is a spoiler regarding Elle Fanning and Joseph Zada commenting on her Effie portrayal in the upcoming movie: Elle has commented she has done hints of Effie flirting with Haymitch, but then Joseph commented Haymitch is very loyal to his woman in this movie.

The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes

- When Snows greets his classmates, the classmates make fun of Felix Ravinstill for eating with his fingers. I think they even said a word describing the "bestiality" (in their POV) of this act. Brought me back to Maysilee and her direct refusal of eating without cutlery to make the Capitol see, she is a human, so Maysilee clearly had a point.

- Reaper and Lucy Gray painting posters - Reaper collecting all the fallen tributes and putting the Panem Flag on them and then talking directly to the Capitol (direct rebelling). Lucy Gray singing with Snakes.

Just wondering if there's any mentions of the 25th games/first quarter in the movie like there was in the book?

Wyatt feels like a major part of the pre games chapters and I’m wondering how that’ll translate in the movie bc he dies so quickly? Obviously a chunk of it will be showing all the pre arena stuff but it’s feeling like with how involved Ben Wang is in press and how passionate he seems about this project and character that his role might be beefed up in the movie.
I’m kinda feeling like he’ll get more screen time in the arena and hopefully it’ll show more of his connection with Lou Lou. In my head it’s sort of a Rue/Katniss dynamic but he had to work harder to protect her. It’s Haymitch’s story so it’ll be mainly his POV but I hope we’ll get to spend some time with Maysilee and Wyatt in the arena to see what they’re doing separate from Haymitch.

in chronological order:
The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes: 6 words
Sunrise on the Reaping: 4 words
The Hunger Games: 3 words
Catching Fire: 2 words
Mockingjay: 1 word

We're missing a book that has a five word title. Does this imply this will be the last book we're getting and that it'll take place between TBOSAS and SOTR 🤔? So possibly a book about the 1st QQ or maybe Mags's games?

Haymitch also mentions having cake every year at new years meanwhile Katniss remembers the only treat she's had in her life as an orange her father brought home ONCE

I'm curious if you have any suggestions besides his iconic theme song !

As i understand it from quick googling, Sunrise is being set a decade or two BEFORE Katniss' movies (Which are the only ones i even loosely know about)

One of my best friends is a huugggee movie guy, but has somehow (to my shock and chagrin) never seen any of The Hunger Games. Anyway, last night he told me to show him one scene from the movies that I thought would win him over and convince him to finally watch them. I decided to show him the end of Catching Fire, starting with Beetee telling Katniss to go with Johanna with the wire down to the water — the end of the movie.

Do we think I chose right?! What would you show him?

I was re-reading SoTR recently ahead of the movie release and particularly the chapter where Wiress is introduced and Haymitch admits frustration that she is one of his mentors. He's frustrated, at least initially, that he is being mentored by someone who won their games without fighting and essentially hid for the entirety. It's revealed that in finding a blind spot in the arena, and outsmarting it, she hid until it was just her and another tribute, where he lunged for her reflection and ultimately drowned in the lake below.

Once this was explored in the book and the subsequent discussion online, Wiress tended to have the reputation that she is perhaps one of the only few victors who won without directly killing anyone, however it got me thinking... whilst she may have not physically overpowered the last remaining tribute in direct physical combat to emerge victor, did she truly never kill anyone to survive?

I know it's open to interpretation but to me, it seems as though she purposely orchestrated the death of the final tribute to ensure her own victory. Her blind spot wasn't just her personal safety net but was also her strategic advantage. She figured something out that no other tribute, not even the gamemakers, had figured out and worked it to her advantage. She is known in the series as being a bona fied genius; figuring out the Nest of Mirrors arena before anyone else, and during the 3rd Quarter Quell (Tick Tok). It's reasonable to assume that given she is smart enough to figure out the arena before anyone else, she is smart enough to understand the implications of leaving the blind spot which had ensured her safety for so long.

There is nothing to assume that the gamemakers, once it was down to Wiress and the final tribute, orchestrated it so she HAD to emerge, because once she won they flew around for an hour trying to find her. So to me, it seems like she emerged knowing she had an advantage over the other tribute and tricked him into lunging at her appearance.

If she knew that arena and how the light beams worked, she would have known he would lunge for her reflection. Why would she give up such a tactical advantage of leaving the blind spot if she wasn't so sure she would out-smart the final tribute and ensure her victory.

To me, it seems more like a tactically orchestrated sequence as opposed to a lucky coincidence. She would be smart enough to know she couldn't win in a physical fight against the other tribute, so she had to emerge knowing she had the tactical advantage and exploit his confusion and her understanding of the arena.

I know this brings into question a debate whether physically harming someone or orchestrating harm still constitutes as such, however I find the theory fascinating and have been thinking about it since.

What are your thoughts?

Aside of District 13, which holds the weaponry and ammunition power of Panem (do they include also nuclear weapons as well?), and was left alone because the Capitol didn't want to mess with them (The Capitol can overpower District 13, but at great cost), is District 3 a powerful threat to The Capitol? It's basically the nerdy district and although they are not known for their strength, they are for their intelligence, since most engineers of Panem are from there. They supply the Capitol with powerful technology (surveillance systems, security systems, tech devices used for war, etc.), but just because of that, they know the weaknesses of that technology and can be used in their favor against the Capitol.

Beetee himself was one of the engineers that designed the security systems that protects The Capitol, and probably like Beetee, most of District 3's engineers know their designs. Do you think The Capitol tried to avoid messing around with District 3 and were more respected, because The Capitol relied so much of their work?

Hi yall! Here’s a collection of playlists I’ve made that fit more in the genre of music people in District 12 would listen to than other themed playlists I’ve found

Lore accurate Haydove: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/00bJkTYTwMKM21QHjCnoC0 This playlist is from both Haymitch and Lenore Dove’s perspectives and I’m honestly really happy with some of the songs I found and how they fit into little things they said throughout the book. I’m still on the hunt for more songs to add so there will be updates!

Louella/ Lou Lou: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7rXWUdNOpqCrUwCIl3xHHf This is a short playlist since the subject matter is really niche lol but i’ll be adding to it as i find new songs (the song Oak Tree in this playlist is SOOOOO Rue it’s crazy but my Rue playlist only has two songs right now so i’m using it for Lou Lou and Haymitch instead)

Covey Core: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4ZtaPgdy6CU7qxKjmi8tY7 I’ve shared this one before but I’ve added a lot more songs including ones from SOTR- All songs up till Ola Belle Reed are songs either specifically sung in the books or mentioned to be sung by the Covey, then it’s just general folk songs I think they’d sing

hope you guys enjoy and lmk what yall think!!

Start them young. My four-year-old wishes you all an amazing Hunger Games week leading up to the movie premiere.

May the odds be ever in your favor. 🏹🔥

Hey everyone! I’m new to Reddit, but I’ve been loving this community’s posts. I’m a huge Hunger Games fan, so I made a BuzzFeed quiz that gives you a training score based on your daily habits. I’ve had friends and family take it to see who’d be most likely to win. The highest we can get is a 10!! Can anyone beat that?

(1) How Will You Score On "The Hunger Games" Training Test?

My pick is Favor by Gigi Perez. Beautiful composition and lyricism. H+LD <3

What’s your favourite song?

Just finished reading the entire series for the millionth time ahead of SOTR later this month, and I have no clue what to read next. This series was my favorite in high school and it still holds up.
Now I’m 30 so if it’s YA it needs to be good lol.
What other books/series do you love?
some of my recent 5 stars are

Shield of Sparrows
Book Lovers
None of this is True
The Midnight Library

Read Throne of Glass and honestly it was like 3-4 stars for me.

I often see mixed opinions, many fans insist that a series like hunger games shouldnt have overpriced merch etc cuz it literally goes against the premise. Others say its just how the world runs.

For me it depends. Like movies are fine esp to get the msg across like books. And most marketing for movies is alright too, though I dont like extravagant premiere looks or very over the top costumes (i do enjoy the fashion yes, but idk i dont like that display and resource usage in that regard, cuz, yk, Capitol).

I do dislike overpriced or just expensive merch in general ngl, like, some stuff to show support kept light? Fine. But idk, if it feels too much I really dislike it.

His actions perfectly set up rebellion, especially with rewarding katniss for her rebellious behaviour before the games (scoring her 11 for shooting the apple).

I can’t recall any reference to it but just can’t get over him genuinely giving Katniss and Peeta every possible opportunity to succeed.