This is the reply I got from code of conduct report. I am shocked that basically they are saying it's fine to scream abuse and swear words at people.. why on earth do they think this kind of behavior is acceptable?

Dear rain1,

We have reviewed this incident previously, at the request of another reporter, and have determined that the incident does not represent a material violation of the Code of Conduct. Both parties in the interaction had a long history in the Open Source world together; the outbursts, although certainly not ideal, were not really out-of-step with communication norms in that setting, and between those individuals. The event organizers further do not feel that it violated the norms of the community there gathered, and I am not aware of any complaints from bystanders who were in the room, nor from either of the parties involved.

There is therefore no action that we intend to take, although we have noted to the FreeBSD developer involved that the outburst was less than ideal, and not an appropriate way to represent the FreeBSD Project in a public discussion. They have been encouraged to speak to Theo directly, but the Conduct Review Team's involvement for the moment ends there.

If there are any more particulars you wish to share in terms of perceived injury, reasons why this should be treated as a material violation of the Code of Conduct, or of what you think an appropriate remedy would be, please do feel free to share it; but understand that all interactions are evaluated within a context, and swearing and loud disagreement are not necessarily material violations of the FreeBSD Code of Conduct, even if they may be representative of behaviour that falls short of our ideals.

Thanks, Juli.

On 11 June 2018 at 11:15 someone from freebsd project (I don't know who) is shouting abusive and swear words at the speaker at this time in a BSD talk https://youtu.be/UaQpvXSa4X8?t=1132

please deal with this code of conduct violation

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Hello /r/BSD,

Well its my first post in here, but I thought I'd make it a good one.

Today I am going to tell (rant) why I left Linux for the BSDs.

So this all started around 9 months ago. For years I'd been an Applefag, meaning I embraced OS X and was a bit of an asshole about it. Well OS X had been pissing me off as I have been trying to learn C and as part of that I had installed the build utilities for OS X so I could build some programs and see what did what with a compiler. One program would not compile however. After looking at the compiler error, which told me it was missing XFree86 libraries, I installed the libraries that XQuartz shipped with. Different error now, this time due to differences in the libraries. I'd been back and forth on an Apple forum trying to get help, and finally it came down to that they thought I was a moron, the developer who made program was a moron, and that OS X was impeccable.

So I got tired of that, sold my laptop off and got a cheap one and moved to Ubuntu, which I had used previously. I compiled the program, and lo and behold it runs. But, the sound is stuttering. After looking into it, its related to this program using OSS and ALSA's OSS compatibility being broken. I did everything I could to get OSS to run, but in the end I left Ubuntu unbootable. So I tried Arch. Got the program working by switching Arch to OSS, and I was in love with Arch for a while. I loved the stark simplicity of the OS and its overall uncomplicated features. But, then I started having instability issues due to none other than systemd. So in the end I was unable to get help from the Arch community to remove systemd. I joined ArchBang, and I was able to work with them to get OpenRC working instead, but overall I tired of upgrading Arch breaking stuff and fighting a losing battle with bugs and segfaults.

So I moved to FreeBSD, and I have to say I was impressed. I use it as a desktop OS now, and I have most of my servers running either FreeBSD or OpenBSD, and I am working on NetBSD on my Raspberry Pi. Overall extremely happy with the friendliness of the BSD communities. Hell, even the OpenBSD fellas have been patient with my questions about PF and ksh (I use zsh mostly)

I hope I continue to enjoy the BSDs as much as I do.

perciva, the person responsible for bringing the abusive and serial harasser Randi Harper to the BSD community is moderating stories about her abusive behavior.

This has to be a joke...

I first came here to just learn more about a Desktop platform I haven't used (used Unix a few times for work) but instead of having the pros of a platform listed with technical details I find a community thats barely better than the one for ReactOS.

The biggest issue I has is nobody will give any meaningful details on BSD. Instead I get vague statements and non committal language as if to mislead while dodging some perceived liability.

Examples:

I've asked what makes hammer2 different than BTRFS on a functional level and was told that this users desktop running BSD and hammer2 seemed to have a better compression ratio compared to their EXT4 based Linux server.

Not only is that apples to apples but doesn't even contain any useful technical details.

I've also asked why people chose BSD over its closest alternative Linux and am always told its "more secure, has sane defaults, and isn't bloated" but no one seems to be able to articulate any of that in technical details.

People say its not a blob of different projects like Linux but instead is a single operating system which is a weird thing to say considering all of the Linux/separate projects required to get a BSD desktop running. Last time I checked Gnome, KDE, and MATE aren't BSD projects.

One of the worst habits of this community is people simply disappearing from threads especially when asked what BSD has to offer over Linux for desktop user.

Shit guys if the very users of the platform can't make it sound good or useful why would I bother installing it?

Its as if this this sub is more anti Linux rather than pro BSD.

Case in point when those anime fans come in not knowing what BSD is instead of making a plug for your OS some of you told them to post that content in /Linux.

Then there's the fact that this sub is dead. Theres posts over a month old on the front page. Do events, have Desktop screenshot/setup pic day or something. I see people complaining that Valve and other software teams don't support "real operating systems" from people who aren't even promoting BSD them selves.

To many user here getting mad that software they want doesn't come to BSD forgetting the fact that almost nobody uses BSD and they aren't doing anything to change that.

Edit: Well its now 4 hours in and this zero upvoted post has now hit the number one spot on the front page with the most of the commenting being done by the very toxic kind of person discussed. Literally outed himself and focused mostly on ad homs, name calling, talking trash about Linux all while refusing to even answer a simple question or say he didn't have an answer which either would have been fine.

If that doesn't prove my point nothing will.

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Oh man. Than you to all the nicer people but sadly you are the minority here. I have had so much toxicity flung at me from people saying I'm the problem doesn't exist while being the exact problem including some one who called me a "libshit" or some such in this very thread for trying to stay on topic when they wanted to instead attack me, I've had someone make awkward poetry for me which is weird to say the least. My DMs have been hit by people spewing much the same and even a guy claiming he doxxed me and showing me a bunch of other account and posts that means god knows what.

I'm more confused than ever. Like after reading the post you'd think the last thing someone who disagrees with it would want to do is prove it right.

Greetings.. all fellow BSD lovers! Over the recent years, I have simply come to love BSD over any other OS that I have come across. Whether its the lean code or the ports system, jails etc, BSDs have become my preferred OS.

But please let me pour my heart to say, that I'm sad at the apparent lack of active discussion circles on newer platforms. (I know about the IRC groups, but thats why I said newer platforms).

Once such platform is Discord.

As many know, discord started as a platform for gamers, but has in recent years expanded to other parts ranging from game development itself .. all the way down to traditional programming discussions.

Some prominent groups are the Python, Java discussion serverhttps://discord.gg/pythonhttps://discord.gg/ypCZGN

Or the various Linux Servers:

Gentoo: https://discord.gg/gentoo

Fedora: https://discord.gg/fedora

OpenSuse: https://discord.gg/opensuse

Ubuntu, Void, Mint, Manjaro, also have active communities.

Or Microsoft, Apple:

https://discord.gg/microsoft
https://discord.gg/apple

And since upto my knowledge, there are no active discord groups dedicated to BSDs itself, I feel that it is high time to have a one such group.

This is not a ambitious project or anything. I just feel that it would be cool to have a active groups on discord as well (for those who wish to use it, specially beginners), in order to spread the knowledge of everything that is good about BSD to EVEN MORE people.

Thus I have named it 'JUST BSD'.

So if you are interested, please join or suggest the channel to others (who might be interested). Its still a new server, so nothing fancy, but there would be no @all @everyone pings in this server, so rest assured.

Server Link: https://discord.gg/9tZjdxM

Peace

is OpenBSD really that secure when taking into account it's apparent faults?
There are numerous criticisms I've found online regarding OpenBSD, and the main thing is this: OpenBSD lacks TrustedBSD MAC (Mandatory Access Control), as well as jails and ACL's. OpenBSD's chroot mechanism for isolating services is more secure than on at least most other *nix, but it's still not as secure as a FreeBSD jail. The main argument against OpenBSD is that it provides very limited access controls.
So is all of this true? Would FreeBSD with some possible additional configuration be a better choice in light of these critiques?

I've been a Linux user for 5+ years now and I've been wondering about BSD for some time now too. But the problem is that with everything other than ZFS, DTrace, and Jails, which are only limited to FreeBSD, I find no other reason to use BSD. And the fact that it doesn't respect the users freedom indirectly, discourages me even more from trying to use it as a daily driver. No offense, but the BSD community is not very concerned about proprietary software, which surprises me because usually BSD people are usually much more informed about their system and I would think that they would want to know what's running on it and not be controlled by their software.

Choose your favorite BSD

Hi reddit.

Without beating around the bush, a question: would there be any interest in a BSD-based Open Source Desktop OS? Not anything like PC-BSD, more like OSX (except completely based on BSD).

Title basically says it all, but I still cannot understand why BSD people are so insistent in trying to appease corporations. Where the hell has it gotten you? Market share just keeps dropping and barely anyone contributes back to the BSD projects. Corporations like Apple and Sony just abuse you to get what they need out of you and don't care at all what happens to the BSD projects.

Even free software developers are hesitant to work on BSD related stuff because they know some corporation is just going to steal it. If BSD was licensed under GPL I do believe it would have been a hell of a lot better off.

I want to like BSD, I don't want to see it die ever either, but the anti GPL stance and favouring proprietary over GPL just is not right.

As you can probably tell I'm not impartial or unbiased, I do agree with a lot of what RMS says and I do prefer GPL over other licenses, but I'm willing to hear any reason for why GPL is so vehemently disliked.

So I got my parents off the Windows XP train with Xubuntu 14.04 but don't like the direction Ubuntu is headed nowadays (They are both on Xubuntu 20.04 right now). Was wondering the feasibility of putting them on Free/Open/NetBSD? Any success stories or should I stick to Xubuntu for them or maybe Linux Mint?

Edit: solved, going to keep them on Xubuntu for now! Thanks for all the helpful insight everyone, much appreciated!

I assumed the command would be something along the lines of ' doas mport install firefox' which it very well could be, but the package is not in the index. Do I need to update the index or add it in manually if so how?

Using a popular os as a desktop thats mainstream makes you less cool gives you more malware bsd has alot of malware made for it its a huge target thats why i use Solaris now

ive been using Solaris since the day it came out 1972 febuary 5th and with my 50+ years of expiernce its alot better then bsd it has alot more avalible programs and is better for everything

It doesn't have to against all the members of the hunting dogs.It can be one on one and even the weakest member. But I just curious what you guys think

I was planning to get Lubuntu for my grandma's virus-loaded PC, wiping Windows entirely. However I've been interested in BSD lately, and was considering giving her GhostBSD instead to see how she likes it.

So in short, is GhostBSD good enough for an old person who uses a lagged out, malware-ridden Windows laptop everyday?

I'm using it and i'm very pleasantly impressed. It's light, it's fast, it's slow-changing, it's written in c, it's very configurable, it's mostly BSD-licensed (a couple of libs are lgpl) and the "everything" module is such a nice, nice treat.

http://www.bodhilinux.com/e17guide/e17guideEN/everything.html

Why might this be? I set the number of CPU cores up to 2 for both of them, they both have the same amount of memory assigned to them as well. I've got a GUI going for the FreeBSD and I notice slight delays with searching, scrolling, opening/closing, etc. I thought that an OS which is like Linux would be more efficient than Windows, but I'm only going by what I see so far in VirtualBox.
By the way, does anyone know if there is a way to use VirtualBox to install an OS right onto a usb stick, and then just boot it up that way (outside of Virtualbox, just booting up the PC the normal way)

Hello everyone. I'm a long term linux user and have dabbled with FreeBSD a few times. Today I want to install some BSD as my main operating system. The things I need from my new OS:

• Good documentation (community wikis, online handbooks, forums etc.).

• Possibility to install multiple cross toolchains. The absolutely necessary toolchains are:

  • arm-none-eabi{,hf}

  • arm-linux-gnueabi

  • avr

  • So far I've only used gcc based cross compilers, though I wouldn't mind using clang.

Things I can do without, but would be nice:

• Ability to install latest vim from source through the system's package manager.

• DWM available in the ports

• Latest versions of gcc and clang for x86.

To avoid derailing this thread and inviting any controversy, don't ask for the reasons why I am switching to BSD. Also, for similar reasons, I do not want FreeBSD.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Almost forgot. I have a SandyBridge laptop, without usb 3.0 and dedicated GPU. I'm guessing that won't cause any problems with the drivers. The only concern about drivers is with the WiFi card (not sure which one it is), but I can always find a replacement that works.