My buddy went and bought a new “truck.” I’m biased and I’ll stick with old school, but I think my 4R is more truck than his Mystery Science Aztek 3000 ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Thoughts?

I believe I am finish with all the customization/ mods! 🤔

Holds my SIG MCX 300blk out just fine

Just ranting as I look for a new SUV. I love Toyota. I’m on my second and learned to drive stick on a 1979 Corolla Lift Back, but I digress. I love the 4Runner and have been debating a used 5th Gen or new 6th Gen. One thing I can’t get over is the lack of dual zone climate control on the mid grade trims. It’s 2026, Toyota. What gives? The new TRD ORP is nearly perfect and packed with features (memory seats, SofTex, heated/cooled seats, JBL…), but a single zone climate system. If you want an offroad focused 4Runner and dual zone climate, you have to get either the Trailhunter or the TRD Pro — both outside most people’s price range. Also, many of us don’t want the hybrid. If you do want dual zone climate and the non-hybrid, your only option is the Limited.

I guess I just don’t get the packaging decisions. It seems intentional to either push buyers into the higher 4Runner trims or to protect the Land Cruiser and GX550. — maybe even the sequoia.

I’ll leave with this: My friend’s wife got a 2025 TRD ORP last year. It’s become their family trip car. I asked him the other day if his wife regrets not having dual zone climate. His response — “she loves it and I hate it. She likes it hot, I like it cold, she controls the temp and I’m miserable for several hours when we go to the beach”. Again, it’s 2026. For $58k, dual zone climate should be standard and you should offer tri zone climate on the upper trims.

Just my two cents. I may end up with a 4Runner but then again I may not. It I don’t, this is why. I know that may sound silly to some, but this is a lot of money to have a compromise like this.

background about me not to toot my own horn but i have a huge collection of cars… 992 and 991 gt3rs , 488 pista, STO, urus, model X plaid, GTR , have had countless MB and BMW, G63, many porsche , subaru STI, many civics and JDMs, r32 GTR… , jeep TJ, f150 raptor… classic cars too… the list is ridiculous I have been very very fortunate to say the least. My daily before this my 5th gen limited was an e450 fully loaded wagon that would give me massages as it drove itself… however one day it just couldnt turn on after dinner at a restaurant and i had to uber home. the next day i started the car with my app at home and uber’d back to pick it up. The forums told me it happens once a month, and the dealer said if i cant repeat it they cant fix it. This was a brand new benz with under 5000 km on it FYI.

Long story short I didnt want to play roulette if my car was gonna start or not so I said fk this and I traded in my benz for a 2021 4runner limited that had 20k kms on it at the MB dealer cuz it was the only used car with low mileage and wasnt a benz on their lot… I never did any homework on the 4runner i just thought toyota is a reliable brand, and i hadn’t driven one since my very first car which was a 90s corolla with roll up windows.

The more I drove this car the more I fell in love with it, the peace of mind and the comfort of the limited trim was everything I needed for long trips. I own a fishing cabin about 600k km away and the last 100 km or so is logging road and this thing shit kicked the icy winter pothole conditions better than a range rover sport (rebound on range suspension was trash) better than f150 raptor (would slide laterally) the only truck that was comfier on this road was the g wagon, but my friend was driving it and after about 200kms into the trip the truck started misfiring… that benz ended up in the shop for over 6months and they tried to deny the warranty too!

Anyways recently I have been looking at the new tundra and new 4runner and the new land cruiser. I really feel like toyota is trying hard to be like some of these fake luxury shitty cars like MB and BMW with a lot of creature comforts but not as rugged as my 5th gen (LIMITED) which is the softest vanilla 4runner . I ripped this limited to some fishing lakes in the mountains, and i was the only stock car. Everybody else had jacked up huge lifts , big tires, and I made it no sweat with just the oem 20” and yokohama geolandars !

Another reason why this 5th gen is so good is the maintenance cost is crazy low. I just did all brakes and rotors for $660 canadian, at the shop, not by myself. When I did brakes on my range rover it was around 7K … biggest scam ever and they were too small for the weight of that truck so designed to wear out faster, after changing the brakes I just downshifted to slow down cuz everytime stepping on the brakes it costed money… Also 4runner oil change is like $120 canadian

I honestly feel after driving the newer toyota trucks that I will keep mine forever. The newer trucks have more power and smoother transmissions for sure but I feel it really makes it feel like any other car, all plastic and all flashy screens. The design looks nice but the new trucks definetly feel not as big inside, and although it has more creature comforts, overall it feels cheaply made. I can see the 6th gen 4runner is an upgrade visually and it has better performance on paper, but I think at the new car prices and what it has, it totally undermines the whole purpose why people would want to buy a 4runner. I am sure once more people buy them and modify them, the demand will be greater but I am not sure the people buying a 6th gen would be coming from 5th gen.

Anyways after thinking and searching for something new, I really cannot find a better car/truck in this market used or new. I honeslty drive this car with a bigger smile on that in a ferrari or lamborghini, not saying those aren’t sick cars but I just look forward to driving the 4runner more.

If you are thinking about buying a 6th gen, i would seriously SERIOUSLY consider getting a used 5th or new 2024 5th if you can, or at least test drive it. If you are worried about gas mileage I got a yotatune and the fuel economy is about the same as 6th gen and no turbos to worry about. So ya thats my 2 cents.

I have a 1997 4cyl 4Runner which I believe is the last of the 4cyl 4Runners. It had 70,000 on it in 2011 and I bought it for $5200. Anyway I needed a car for work that could haul a bit but needed to be covered. I removed all seats except the driver’s seat and used it for hauls from CA to AZ. I told someone I bet could drive this thing for 100,000 miles without needing an oil change. I didn’t mind putting it to the test because I only needed if for 2 years of constant driving. Like Ivan Drago said, if it died it died. Long story short it made it no problem. Like literally no check engine and nothing I could see wrong. I should have check MPG at the beginning and end. The only thing I saw was the MA sensor looked like I burnt match. I cleaned it and it runs perfectly fine. I gave it an oil change at 170,000 and decided to hold onto it since it was a warrior. It now has 215,000 with just the one oil change since 70,000.

Just an interesting 4Runner story I figured I’d share. 4Runners are just too good. I’ve spent a grand total of $150 on it other than tires. I replaced the cracked serpentine belt and replaced the rear lift gate struts since mine gave up and the door would just slam shut. That’s it. Cheers to 4Runners and their owners.

I have a 2016 4Runner that I need to get updated. I’m wondering if it’s worth changing out the display altogether, or just updating the maps, etc. Im not really a fan of the display, and the information is outdated. Taking it to Toyota is stupid expensive, I know there’s cheaper ways to update this bitch.

Any advice is welcome!

Just got an OTT tune and it's a game changer. Wish I'd done it long ago. If you have the means, I highly recommend it. It's so choice.

Amidst all the hoopla and the general public backlash about the looks and pricing of the 6th gen, the embargo’s finally lifted and generally most reviewers are coming out RAVING about it Doug et al. Obviously it’s yet to be seen about longevity but it seems like reviews are overly positive.

So who ordered one?? How much mark up did you pay and which trim level?? Please don’t respond with trolling and the occasional “have fun going to the supermarket with your hulk hogan mustache trail hunter”.

Serious posts only please!

2WD SR5 7” Lift 3.0 Fox F 2.5 Fox R 37s 17x9 -38 Wheel Spacers: 1.5” F 2” R

Why do I say this?

Welp, 4th Taco dominated 2024 and 2023 sales in the midsize segment. There was a little drop in sales in 2024 compared to 2023, but makes sense since most people are getting squeezed by inflation and high interest rates.

The clickbait YouTubers that walk around dealers SWEAR the Tacos are selling bad... but nah it's the opposite bro lol. These guys are worse than Scotty Kilmer with the clickbaits. They need to stfu frankly.

With that said, despite inflation and high interest rates, the Taco is doing well. I expect the 6th gen 4R to do just as well. I'm not a fan of the 6th gen and I stand by saying the 5th gen is the best gen, but saying the 6th gen will be screwed is just disingenuous.

Not mine, found online

Decided to put the carbon fiber overlay where my dogs have scratched up the top of my glove box 🙄 surprisingly really liking this.

After some procrastinating, I finally got my ORT Forged wheels onto my 4runner. I really wanted to try something different by having them made in magnesium blue, and I'm pretty damn please with how this turned out. Definitely not for everyone, but the blue on blue works pretty well in person.

Hey all. I think I know the right answer here but wanted your opinions.

Right now I own a 2020 nightshade Limited in Black with 40,000 km. It’s in perfect condition. I ordered a 25 Pro before it was even announced in Black. Been waiting two years and they tell me will probably see it this summer. Here in Canada they are on short supply.

Now last summer my wife got me driver training / racing lessons at the local race track and I fell in love. The instructor had a car I really liked which was a 24 Type R. So fast forward to two weeks ago my buddy calls me from the Honda store to tell me he has the last allocation on a Type R in Champ White. I bought it and love it dearly.

Now o have a two car garage with my wives 24 Prius prime and the Type R as it will on be used in warm months and 4runner on driveway. My dilemma is when the new one comes there’s no way I’m parking it outside on driveway. So I’m wondering I may just keep my Nightshade as it’s still basically new.

Let me know your thoughts.