like I dont mean cold hard proof but like kinda substantial stuff yk. also i fully agree with the ship i just don’t remember any evidence tbh :P.

Look… I’m not saying that Wenclair can never happen. But let’s all be realistic for a quick second.

Netflix is a billion dollar corporation. They do not care what WE as the viewers think. If they could release AI slop and still make money from it, they would do it in a heartbeat.

And judging from our current political climate (remember that Netflix is an American company), something tells me that we’re all just being baited by Netflix.

I could totally be wrong and maybe Netflix has the balls to actually do it. But I highly doubt they will… Which is a shame.

I've been thinking about this for a while, and do we really believe there's even a chance for Wenclair to come true?

Unlike the other ship, we have nothing romantic about it, no tension, no kisses, just friendship.

Emma doesn't seem to care (she's rightly changed her mind since that joke a few years ago), Jenna is only in favor of a single Wednesday, and Gough and Millar have put the nail in the coffin by stating that Wednesday and Enid will remain just friends and nothing more.

(If they had other plans for Wednesday and Enid, the two showrunners would have said something completely different, in fact a few years ago they said they were open to everything and now they have changed their minds.)

On the other hand, the couple with Tyler seems much more appealing on a mainstream level, given that there are magazines that actually talk about a Weyler return.

(Wenclair is only in favor in the queer fandom, because outside of that, many people see Wednesday and Enid only as friends.)

I hope not, but once again, the straight couple is always the most popular because, simply put, there was a canonical element that proves their authenticity.

I think that between the novelization (approved by Netflix) and the episodes directed by Angela Robinson, I have the impression that we'll just get massive queerbaiting.

Doing worse than Supercorp was impossible, and yet maybe it will happen.

I didn't want to doompost or anything, but I'm someone who clings to real data when I want to get attached to a ship and currently we really only have a huge headcanon supporting us.

I'll still love this ship, but I've given up hope for a while now.

If enid isnt in season 3 i will cry because she is my favorite character

There is no room for queer themes in the series, so perhaps it is better to give up now.

Jenna would have already changed the script if she cared, but instead she seems to approve of what Gough and Millar have written.
The second season just a few weeks away and my mood is already completely ruined... yeah

I've seen Enid trans fanart and wanted to address it. She would want to be a man because her parents would only want her to be straight, plus Enid wouldn't know if Wednesday is into girls and worries she isn't because Wednesdays only dated men in the past. Thats my headcanon. What do you guys think?

Possible endgame scenario:

• Wenclair happens in the novels.

• Wyler happens in the show.

Thoughts?

I dont know if anyone noticed this but there is not gacha reaction in youtube with the Wenclair and it just about Bruno x Enid ship (not even Ajax) and Tyler x Wednesday. And in AO3 there is not many new fanfics nad its like anyone want to writte Wenclair anymore, in season one we had like 8000 fanfics and now we just get like 100 and the half of it is very bad shit so im very dissapointed.

Pd. Sorry for any mistake, english is not my first language.

Quick disclaimer: this fic is not about Wednesday and Enid falling in love. This is about Wednesday healing after she and Enid broke up with the help of yoko and divina. In the second part they do all start dating. I know this is not everyone’s cup of tea, but it is one of mine. I will continue to spotlight poly fics in the future only if they contain Wednesday and Enid until there is a better space to spotlight these fics.

Now on to the fic!!! Today’s is Growing Up by ClearlyLost
136k words
3 works
Incomplete

This was another reread for me, so you know I enjoyed it. Basic early plot is that Wednesday get into a big fight and brake up. This leads to the nightshades freezing her out until yoko discovers Wednesday and helps her.

There are non con elements to this because Xavier is a piece of crap, so beware of the tags. But it does have a happy ending.

I loved how Wednesdays and yokos relationship grew in this fic. And I loved how they made Wednesday very thoughtful but still keeping her with all her knifes. The writing was also very good!

I think I found this fic when I was looking through the yoko/divina tag, but I stayed for the mental health stuff that they cover. I believe that what is shown in this fic is a very real thing that happens and while I don’t wish it upon anyone I really liked reading it again.

Also I love a poly Wednesday and how those relationships work. I love seeing these characters put effort into there relationship and how they work together.

Please let me know if there is a space on Reddit for poly Wednesday. Other wise I will post spotlights of them in here. 🖤🖤🖤

I get the whole "Addams" darker story and I do love horror movies as well, and some murder or blood wouldn't hurt, but like I just can't watch it, if I know they won't give me wenclair for even like 5 mins. like idk a hug will do, please Tim???🙏🙏 Not to sound crazy but the actors have talked about the "shipping" so much that them not doing it would be wrong. i feel betrayed. Even jenna said "we have such incredible female leads in the show, goes on to talk abt only Gwen. Like she didn't even mention Emma like she does in every interview or Joy or anyone. like please. I'm selling my soul to make it happen.

p.s I prolly went over the line a bit. Sorry.

Listen, I KNOW it's the season ending cliffhanger. I know it's directly tied into the ship. I get it. I understand why you guys wanna write it. But I'm already getting sick of these types of fic.

It's not you guy's fault Wenclair authors. I want to be clear, I'm not saying these fics are bad; I think most are pretty well written. I'm specifically saying that, if your goal is to write a story about Wenclair, the Hunt is an especially difficult thing to write, which has resulted in me tiring of them quickly. The rest of this post just explains why I think that.

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The plot is: Wednesday tracks Enid; eventually finds her; doesn't quite get maimed; turns her back... somehow.

That's always the plot.

Maybe you can add in some antagonists to spice it up? Werewolves hunters, hunters who are werewolves, etc. But, they won't have much depth, they're just kind of goons. I haven't read a fic yet where there being others also hunting Enid made me more interested in the story. I mean, what are the other hunters gonna do? Kill Enid? In a Wenclair fic?

On the face of it, most of the plot should be wilderness tracking. But that's hard to write if you weren't a scout as a kid, and harder still to make interesting and compelling to a reader, especially a reader that has shown up for romance. In practice, most of these fics I've read have ended up being a lot of angsty internal monologue from Wednesday, and not a lot else. Which is fine, I vibe with that, but when I've already read 20 different versions of that same monologue...

There's some interesting worldbuilding and/or thematic stuff to be done with how you choose to change Enid back, so that's something. But that's about all the room for creativity that this premise has, at least in it's most basic form. So most of these fics are pretty samey.

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The other, bigger problem, in my opinion, is that this premise inherently means Enid and Wednesday are not, you know... interacting. I feel like there's been a lot of like 4-10 thousands word stories where Enid and Wednesday are only in the same scene (aka Wednesday finally finds Enid) for the last quarter of the story, and only able to talk (Enid finally changes back) for the last like 200 words. So, Wenclair stories... that don't have much Wenclair in them.

All of the best fics with this premise, that I've read, just use the hunt as the beginning of their actual story, which is longer and more complicated, and doesn't really start until the Enid is already turned back. But I've also read a few that just skip straight past the hunt, and start with Enid already turned back, and honestly? Those have been better stories... at least, for me.

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I don't know... I don't wanna tell you guys to not write a Hunt story. If you feel inspired, go for it. And if you want to write a non-Wenclair and/or non-romance with this premise? Hell yeah. But if you really do want to write a Wenclair romance using this premise... I guess I'd just like to request you put a little more thought into than you think you need to, because I really do think it's deceptively difficult.

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In an effort to make this post more constructive, I'm adding this bit.

If you're gonna write one of these stories, I'd suggest trying to make sure you have at least one character arc. That is, one of the characters has to change in order for the plot to resolve.

Instead of the plot just resolving when Wednesday does simple ritual to change Enid back, make it so that the magic will only change Enid back if Wednesday can admit to herself that she loves Enid. That ties the plot into Wednesday's character, and turns this into a more compelling plot, instead of just a series of events.

Or maybe you want to give Enid an arc? Maybe Enid, as an Alpha Werewolf, is so good at running that Wednesday just actually cannot catch her, and so Enid will only be caught if she chooses to be. Now the story isn't about Wednesday tracking a wolf through the wilderness, it's about Wednesday tracking a wolf through the wilderness and an internal struggle in Enid.

These are just examples. The point is, ideally, your plot will not just be the same series of events repeated again, but a character-driven story, where one of them has to change in order for the happy ending to happen. Is this 100% required? No, of course not. But if you're writing one of these stories, and it just doesn't feel right, adding an arc like this is a relatively simple way to ensure the story has some depth.

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Just to be clear, I do not think author's owe me anything, or that I'm entitled to a certain sort of story. This is just me, as a reader in this fandom who also happens to be an author in others, trying to provide information and thoughts on my experience as a reader, in a way that I know I would find helpful as an author.

This is what Hunter and the showrunners said about Wednesday and Tyler in a recent interview.

It's like Wenclair, but extra!

What if Wenclair doesn't happen not because the writers don't see the potential or are homophobic but because Enid doesn't survive the season and season 3 is something of a revenge quest for Wednesday.

I'm so, so tired of the body swap trope, and If I have to see it again I'm going to go insane.

Enid isnt a werewolf. werewolves only transform during full moons. She transforms with any moonlight.. meaning shes a wolfman not a werewolf. Wolfman are more man than wolf and can transform at will

"Wednesday Addams, did you put your name into the Goblet of Fire?" Principal Weems asked calmly.

"No," Wednesday said, which technically wasn't a lie...

Weems glared at her, a clear storm brewing behind those shrewd calculating eyes. "Did you ask one of the older students to do it for you?"

"No." This technically wasn't a lie either. Diggory had no clue he'd submitted her name instead of his own.

She took a step closer, her eyes narrowing as they searched Wednesday through, giving the impression she already knew the answer to the question she was about to ask next.

"Do you have any idea at all how your name ended up in the Goblet of Fire?"

Wednesday clenched her jaw to suppress a smirk as she stared back at her, unblinking.

"Yes..."

Anyone interested in rp Wenclair??

I mostly do Rp’s in either Amino or Discord! My amino name is @JasmineAlfaro and my discord name is @samantha3037! We can discuss everything over there!

This is a long text. I enjoyed writing it, and I hope you enjoy reading it ☺️.

I believe Tyler will have a redemption arc in season 3. I’m about 99% sure. His story has always been heading in that direction. He has been controlled by others his entire life, and by the end of season 2, he clearly seemed like he had had enough. He didn’t care about revenge or anything like that anymore—he felt genuinely lost. So I think the beginning of season 3 will focus on the Hyde camp and his identity crisis. Also, most of the cast and writers have implied that he was forced into what he did. I think we can all agree on that point.

Now let’s talk about his relationship with Enid.

They obviously hate each other. Tyler told Wednesday that he was going to kill her, and even if he hadn’t said it out loud, we could still assume he wanted a rematch and revenge. And when Enid learned that he was after Wednesday, her immediate reaction was to make a plan to kill him. And we all know Enid is usually a bubbly person. She’s now stuck in her wolf form, so we can assume she’ll become more protective and more aggressive.

So we can say they both have an obsession with each other. They are enemies, but they also have many parallels. They both suffer from a beast that consumes them. They both have bad parents. They are both going through major identity crises. They both feel like outcasts in society because of what’s inside them. And, of course, they both have strong ties to Wednesday.

If they ever actually talked, they could understand each other and deeply empathize with one another.

Up to this point, I’ve just been analyzing. What comes next is pure speculation.

I think Capri has an evil plan, and I believe she is a hybrid. She is probably the first of her kind, which makes her one of the most powerful characters in the series. Because of that, neither Enid nor Tyler could defeat her alone. She is a mentor to both of them (another parallel, lol), so from a storytelling perspective, it would make sense for them to team up to defeat her. Wednesday will probably be dealing with Ophelia, so Capri becomes their problem.

Of course, they won’t become friends that quickly. The show has been hyping up the Rovani storyline, and personally, I’m expecting two major confrontations—one in the middle of season 3 and one before the final episode. We also have a Hyde pack and a wolf pack, and I don’t think those were created for nothing. We’ll probably see Hyde vs. wolf at some point.

But like I said, Tyler will become a good person again, and Wednesday will likely be the first one to realize that. That’s how they eventually become a team.

I don’t know what happens after that. Maybe Tyler becomes a new student at Nevermore (which would be very optimistic), or maybe he gets controlled by another villain. Either way, his arc will be about redemption, and Enid’s will be about healing. I’m really excited to see where their stories go.

They are very close friends and playing a couple might make things akward.

this is like a really niche thing for wenclair ans taylor swift fans but since tloasg in season two came out right next to each other there was like so many edits to the newer songs when I wanted to see to the older songs cause it wasn't my favorite album and I just wanted to rant about this

Like and dislike meaning if you rooted for it.

just saw a copypasta im sorry for anyone who's about to throw hands

see this happens when im bored.

This is just a random question for people that enjoy character/OC ships. (or generally anyone)

Tbh I have thought about this a few times, just wanted to see if you guys have like any OC's you've designed especially for like intetesting pairings.

Feel free to share them :)