r/webdev • u/Click_Clack_Clay • Sep 15 '16
Angular 2 Final Released
http://angularjs.blogspot.com/2016/09/angular2-final.html11
u/Wishmaster90 Sep 15 '16
Never thought I would see it release this year. Congratz to the team and contributors.
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u/ArguingEnginerd Sep 15 '16
The angular team said a while back that their target date for releasing angular 2 was fall of 2016.
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u/rk06 v-dev Sep 15 '16
Great, now all we need is an updated angular vs react vs aurelia vs vue vs inferno vs polymer vs next-js-framework article
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u/t4t5 Sep 16 '16
And the conclusion in the end will again be: "It depends. Choose whichever suits you best!"
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u/rk06 v-dev Sep 16 '16
A good comparison article would stress pros and cons of each and will tell which is best js framework for which situation.
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u/JaniRockz Sep 15 '16
Im only used to JS and jQuery. Should I learn A2 or React?
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u/__Warden Sep 15 '16
I think both are nice to learn, just to see how different things can be made. It depends on how much time you have, and if you want to use it.
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Sep 15 '16
Plus, I mean, they don't really take that long to learn. There are a few major conceptual differences to wrap your head around, but they're nothing that a couple of hours of research and fiddling around can't clear up.
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Sep 15 '16
I think it largely depends on what you're coding. If you're not doing anything that leads to a ton of JS and/or jQuery, then there's not much to gain from switching to either.
On the other hand, if your goal is to write SPAs, then one of those or the alternatives should be a priority.
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u/RichSniper Sep 15 '16
That's interesting, I'm almost the complete opposite. Every time I try to look at React, I immediately lose context of how the gears are turning.
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u/TheHelgeSverre Sep 15 '16
is blogger/blogspot still a thing...
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u/_wsgeorge Sep 15 '16
It is. But, it looks like a neglected product that Google might kill in the near future.
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Sep 15 '16
I pulled down the last RC and played with their CLI. The generated hello work app had like a 2+MB js bundle, WTF.
typescript is pretty cool, but ng2 still looks way too complicated to me. I prefer how react sticks closer to js.
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u/2uneek javascript Sep 15 '16
If it was 2mb you weren't doing it right, at ng-conf they built a hello world that was sub 50k...
You should learn the tool, or atleast how it works before you judge it... unless you always just push up unminified, unuglified, dev builds to your servers.. then maybe angular 2 is not for you...
Here's a pretty good blog post on how to get a more optimized build with angular 2 http://blog.mgechev.com/2016/06/26/tree-shaking-angular2-production-build-rollup-javascript/
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u/NYKHouston43 Sep 15 '16
I am a little curious as to why the gzipped default project made from the angular-cli production build is 189 kB. I thought it was supposed to be 50kB unless I'm missing something.
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u/2uneek javascript Sep 15 '16
Are you using rollup + tree shaking?
Here is Rob Wormald going over the ~49kb build at ng-conf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSssb9AmiJU&t=26m45s
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u/CodeEverywhere Sep 15 '16
Yeah... angular seems to be getting bulkier and bulkier. I'm sure angular 2 is ok and even helpful for larger-scale sites, but it's starting to seem like a more inappropriate tool for small/medium scale sites...
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u/2uneek javascript Sep 15 '16
the guy is just wrong though, hes talking about the size of a dev build that has zero optimization - which you would never ever want to push to production. The Angular team was able to build a sub 50k Hello World at ng-conf and said they were pushing to get that even lower...
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u/CYRIAQU3 Sep 15 '16
So... A1 depreciation date when ?
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u/_xiphiaz Sep 15 '16
From the Angular team, when usage of Angular 2 exceeds usage of 1. How they will measure that is unknown
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u/Ani10 Sep 15 '16
Building a new project just to improve my AngularJS "skills" after work. I'm working as a full stack developer freshly out of college and struggle with AngularJS frequently so want to do something at home to improve for work so this brings me to my question. Should I build my next project in Angular 1.x.x or should I start with Angular 2?
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u/ArguingEnginerd Sep 15 '16
I would just use angular 2 unless you're trying to make a production ready application.
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Sep 15 '16
Free 2.1 hour video course on Scotch: https://school.scotch.io/getting-started-with-angular-2
Hope this helps at least someone!
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u/Maxtream Sep 16 '16
I'll wait for it to mature a bit and have more stable browser support without dozens of additional stuff that must be included in the process by 3rd party libraries. This is just a clusterfuck of libraries, dependencies, scripts that need to be added in order to build app.
I don't doubt that Angular2 is good and should be used. But it's way ahead of what browsers allow us to do yet and this can be changed in the future... basically really unstable.
Even google themselves will sit on ng1 for now.
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u/solidad29 Sep 15 '16
Time to learn then.