r/webdev • u/Proud-Confidence7290 • Nov 26 '23

Question Will AI decrease demand and salaries?

Hello everyone.

I am new to web development and it goes well so far.

I'm bit scared of AI development. Let's say you needed 10 developers for a project before ChatGPT and now you need 8.

With the development of AI, we will need even less.

Why do people think AI won't decrease demand and salaries of web developers? It's logic for me, what am I missing?

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u/CheapChallenge Nov 26 '23

No. It will increase expectations about velocity though, as it should when new tools become available.

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u/ImportantDoubt6434 Nov 26 '23

The pay expectations increase as well then

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u/kbder Nov 26 '23

Oh, you must be new here

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u/Ariakkas10 Nov 26 '23

Yeah! You tell em!

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u/ImportantDoubt6434 Nov 26 '23

Literally any worker: “You should get paid more”

Devs: 😡no I’m a capitalist billionaire I need a pay-cut

Like, what the hell?

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '23

Then they all come out of the wood to cry like little snowflakes "boohoo the market is hard I cannot find a job since the layoff, I couldn't do shit because I didn't unionised boohoo "

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u/ImportantDoubt6434 Nov 26 '23

Unionize, don’t train scabs, and don’t expect corporate bastards to play nice.

Put their ass on grass when they fuck around, let everyone know the dirty corporate laundry.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '23

You're not wrong, but I think how you came at em made em want you t be wrong.

Productivity influences salary somewhat, but boy, what a trip it is to audit a company and see how owners divide up the loot. If the company is making a profit, the owner is trying to keep as much as he can get away with, and salaries are definitely NOT affected by productivity increase

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u/Ariakkas10 Nov 26 '23

Literally no one hires 1 dev over another because they are faster.

Literally no one rewards(promotion/pay raise) faster devs. You’ll get punished for being slow, but going faster doesn’t get you anything, and can be detrimental to your team.

All you’re talking about is being able to keep pace. Not exceeding pace. If you’re as productive as everyone else, that’s good enough.

And guess what, if everyone goes faster, everyone is NOT going to get a pay raise. Take a look at aggregate salaries over the last couple of decades compared to productivity gains over the same period.

Lastly, labor is most definitely not a measure of productivity. That’s absurd. For one thing, it’s not a measure of anything. It’s an exchange. Second, a measure of productivity would be unique to the field in discussion, in ours it would be something like tickets closed or features deployed.

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u/ImportantDoubt6434 Nov 26 '23

I get paid per contract and am self employed with employees so I guess that makes you an infant