is that he's a senile old racist who has a hard time remembering why he's pretending not to agree with everything the other senile old racist is saying

I am sick to death of hearing about Hillary fucking Clinton. She is a centrist TERF, and her and her disgusting, rapey husband are largely responsible for dragging the entire DNC to the right. They are traitors and are 100% complicit in what's happening today.

I am a trans woman with autism and will be one of the first slain by the fascists if they overrun us, however I will not every shame myself by submitting to the rotting blue neoliberal bullshit guilt story again. They can fall into ruin and flames for all I care. They are cowards who have sold us out again and again and now they think we're to run to them and hug their legs out of fear of fascists.

How much are you all enjoying that student debt? HRC's husband helped that to happen - they both did. Biden's never ever going to forgive it, because he thinks he can control people through the terror of the right. They do not care about you. They care about money and power and that is all they care about.

The blue are not your friends. They are loathsome capitalists who would chew your bone marrow for profit. Fuck the blue, and if anyone tries to sell HRC to you like she would have been "good", please see them as privileged cowards who would abandon others to save their own worthless skin for that is all that they are.

I should probably preface this by saying I am not a American. I am a Turk living in the UK, but the results of elections in America, with it being such a hegemon impacts much of the world. Hence, I feel the need to make this post.

The sole argument that American liberals have been using to justify voting for Kamala Harris in 2024 has been "harm reduction". Originally it was that Harris/Biden would do less harm to the Palestinians than Trump. At some point this point was mostly abandoned, since it was quite clearly bs as the DNC wholeheartedly rejects ANY attempt to not send 92109102282738238298326561278182898291782912192012901 dollar to Israel.

Now, it has pivoted towards arguing that harm reduction is good because less Americans would be persecuted. Yes, under the Democrats and Republicans, hudreds of thousands of Palestinians would still be killed. But under Trump, project 2025 would happen and then there would be 10 trillion dead Americans.

This argumentation is horribly, horribly flawed.

To see why, let's go back to 2008.

In 2008, America was in crisis. The Cold War had been won almost 20 years prior and capitalism was seen as the only way forward by many. But the complete catastrophe that was the 2007-8 recession shook the faith of millions of people. People were angry as countless financial institutions spasmed and died. Millions lost jobs, countless sums of money, etc...

In that phase, America was ready for change. And as always, the election was described by parts of the press and particularly rabid DNC supporters as "the most important election of our lifetime" (sound familiar?)

The Democrats saw that in 2008, the Republicans stood no chance. But they also saw that there was a very real rising current of discontent (one that would only multiply by 2012). What did they do? They delivered Obama as America's saviour. The bringer of change. A man who would solve the economy and change he country for good.

Obama did after all, promise an end to American forever wars, universal healthcare, and a green America. Perhaps most of all, he came with an implicit ideal to change American inequality. To punish the banks and the corporations and NOT bail them out. Progressive movements were hijacked in return for change that was never to come.

Obama did not end American forever wars. Iraq raged on until 2011, and American forces actually returned a few years later to deal with isis (which 2003's invasion had created). Afghanistan of course continued long after Obama. And then as if that was not enough, he then chose to bomb and destroy Libya. He did so in the name of preventing a bloodbath for which no evidence could be found. In actuality, it arguably caused a real bloodbath. Not only by plunging the country into a 2nd civil war, but also by paving the way for Libyan rebels to descend on the Black townships in the countries south to lynch and kill any African they could find (hell, some even had battalions called "battalion for the annihilation of the Dark-skinned. some humanitarian intervention that was!). And then is the bombing of Yemen, and the beginning of the sale of weaponry to the Saudis to kill even more Yemenis (which Biden pledged to stop and then didn't...!)

Obama did not turn America green, obviously. If you are an American, I think you can see how this is not true. But, I would be wrong to say no positive change occurred in this regard (Kyoto, some regulations were passed, etc...).

Finally, the response to the recession. The moment he came to office, $800,000,000,000 was spent in handouts to Wall street. There is a lot more to say about Obama and his relationship with Wall street as laid out here. That article does a better job than me than laying it all out. I would strongly reccomend you give it a read.

Now, all of this seems well and good. But the reason I think voting Blue does not do harm reduction goes deeper than just "They are toothless people who will renegade on every promise they make and fuck you over." Well that's a big part of it, but there's more to it as well.

The reason why voting blue is not harm reduction is because, in the case of 2008, the anger to the innate failings of capitalism led to many people placing their faith in Obama.

When Obama didn't deliver, that directly led to the rise of people like Donald Trump. It directly led to the rise of the American Far-Right. People became alienated. some turned to the Left. But sadly, many others turned to the far-right. Perhaps this would not have happened if there was an actual American alternative. A left-winged one that people could put their faith in. But in the absence of any powerful left-winged party, very few will swing that way. Because they have no voice to listen to from the left.

A similar thing occured in the UK in this time period. Now due to how the UK's electoral system works it wasn't reflected on the map. But in 2015, almost 4,000,000 voted for the far-right UKIP party (making them the 3rd largest party in terms of numbers of votes).

Then in 2024, Reform UK (aka: UKIP 2.0) returned. Winning 4,117,221 votes. Again making them the 3rd biggest party. I do not believe it to be a coincidence that the British never had such a strong showing when Corbyn was in charge of the Labour.

This may seem unrelated, but the point it shows us is that the presence of a real, socialist alternative, does a hell of a lot more harm reduction than voting for an ineffectual liberal ever could! Because it nips the far-right in the bud. Liberals support the establishment and leave the masses behind. The far-right follows not far behind.

so what will a Harris victory accomplish? Kicking the can down the road mostly. It won't "reduce harm". It will do nothing and set the stage for another, bigger beast. Its not harm reduction. It does the opposite. The complete opposite.

And hey, liberal rule resulting in a resurgent right, while the left is suppressed is hardly unique to America. It is happening right now in France with Macron. Who would rather pander to the fascist National Rally than ever give the socialist-Communist coalition of the New Popular Front a shot at power. But while everyone was saying that the far-right would win and that the French left would be irrelevant. The French Left won.

When what is being deemed as irrelevant is the entirety of the Left wing of politics, it is generally anything but! Now am i saying if you go and vote for Jill stein or psl or Cornel West or whatever that you will win the presidency? No. But you may very well establish an alternative to ineffectual liberalism which sets the stage for fascism. And with that do actual harm reduction.

There are so many people saying you have to vote for Biden because Trump is going to destroy the country. I refuse to support Joe Biden for how he handled Israel/Palestine alone.

I know I’m not the only one. I’m voting for Jill Stein. Who’s the candidate ya’ll are voting for?

Particularly on the front page of Reddit. They really screwed the pooch on this one, can't wait to vote for them in the midterms

A future where there are no political consequences for arming a genocide and telling lies in order to prolong it, is far scarier to me than 4 years of Trump. This behavior cannot be rewarded if we are ever to live in a just world.

Time to really show them that this is what they wanted all along. No sex not if your married not if you are with a partner. No sex on dates, none period. If you are a sex worker try to do the best you can, maybe double or triple your rates. You have the power time to flex it.

We'd still have smartphone technology from solar chargers. We'd get food from begging. Think about the last time someone begged on the street for food. Also we'd all initially have a stock of money we could use to buy oatmeal and nuts, trail food, and even transport or emergency solutions. I just need a group so we can defend ourselves more easily. I thought other people might be sick of this sisyphean life. I certainly don't get the point anymore. Just build up a couple grand from menial labor and leave.