r/harmalas • • Sep 02 '21

Psychoactive Dose Range for Harmala Alkaloids (Oral + Inhalation)

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Disclaimer edit: There could be inaccurate information presented, and if there is please notify me. Please do your own research outside of Reddit!

These doses are for a roughly equal mixture of harmaline/harmine. If you have harmine by itself, increase the doses by 5-10%. Use the same doses listed, if not a little less, for harmaline by itself. THH is a weaker MAOI than harmaline/harmine. Start with 1.5x the inhalation doses for sublingual use, and incrementally increase up to the oral dose range for later experiences if needed.

—Oral ROA Doses—

•Light: 15-60mg (adequate MAO inhibition for low dose tryptamine combinations starts around 40mg)

•Medium: 60-120mg

•Strong: 120-240mg

•Heavy: 240mg+ [CAUTION/UNADVISABLE]

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—Inhalation ROA Doses—

(Use freebase, not HCl)

•Light: 5-20mg (adequate MAO inhibition for tryptamine combinations starts around 10mg)

•Medium: 20-40mg

•Strong: 40-65mg

•Heavy: 65mg+ [CAUTION/UNADVISABLE]

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SYRIAN RUE SEEDS: contain 3-4% harmala alkaloids by dry weight. (1 gram contains ~30-40mg). Crushed syrian rue can be used to make tea, but a quantifiable amount of the alkaloids will be lost during the process (amount lost varies depending on how the tea is brewed).

PHARMAHUASCA: Take a capsule filled with your harmala alkaloids, wait ~45 minutes, and then take your capsule filled with DMT. I recommend that you DO NOT exceed ~240mg of harmalas, or ~125mg of DMT. An average (full effect) dose for a person of average bodyweight is 100mg of harmalas to 50mg of DMT. The effects can last anywhere from 3-8 hours.

CHANGA is a blend of harmala containing plants such as b. caapi with DMT infused herbs. Changa is smoked, and dosing is inconsistent because it’s highly dependent on how someone’s changa is made and what materials are used. A little bit can pack a punch! The effects can last up to an hour.

Changa preparation guides:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Changa

https://m.psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Changa_preparation_guide

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Expect some level of physical discomfort (including but not limited to dizziness and vomiting) with higher doses.

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[CAUTION] DO NOT combine these substances with antidepressants or other mood-regulating medications unless you’ve found an exception through in-depth research. DO NOT combine these substances with alcohol, 5MeO-DMT, MDMA, cocaine, DXM, tramadol, or amphetamines either! This is not a light warning. These combinations are physically dangerous.

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Stay safe out there!


r/harmalas • • Jun 15 '23

Harmalas precipitating out 🫶🏼

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r/harmalas • • Nov 29 '24

easy to read syrian rue tea recipe poster I made

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ingredients: 2-6g unground syrian rue seeds half a lemon juice (or more depending on your taste) raw ginger, I say 2-5g but you could put more 300-400ml water (it’ll be boiled down to about 200ml) optional ingredients: hibiscus vanilla tea leaves turmeric steps: add the main ingredients to a metal pot optional add the extra ingredients boil for 30-40 minutes strain the tea and enjoy! other: waiting until it’s cold makes it easier to down


r/harmalas • • Dec 04 '22

Refer to this when mixing other substances with MAOIs/RIMAs

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r/harmalas • • Oct 12 '22

Extraction Harmala Freebase Precipitation

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r/harmalas • • Feb 09 '24

Swim made an lil vid

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r/harmalas • • Sep 29 '20

What food and medication should be avoided with MAOi?

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More info @:http://www.ayahuasca.com/science/foods-and-meds-to-avoid-with-maois/

The following foods are recommended to be avoided with MAOIs:

– Meat that is not fresh, especially unfresh liver (fresh meat and fresh liver are safe)
– Bologna, pepperoni, salami, corned beef, sausage, hot dogs, any cured meats
– Smoked, fermented, pickled (herring) and otherwise aged or dried fish, lox; any fish that is not fresh
– Fermented tofu, fermented bean curd, fermented soybean paste, miso soup (contains fermented bean curd)
– Soy sauce (soy sauce even in very small quantities has been implicated in a number of anecdotal reports on this forum)
– Teriyaki sauce
– Cheeses, especially aged cheeses (ricotta cheese, mozzarella cheese, cottage cheese and cream cheese are safe)
– Protein extracts
– Liquid or powdered protein dietary supplements
– Canned soups, or soups made with protein extracts or bouillon
– Gravies and foods made with meat extracts
– Dried egg whites
– Defatted peanut flour
– Brewer’s yeast, yeast vitamin supplements, yeast extracts, foods with yeast in ingredients
– Sourdough bread
– Shrimp paste
– Sauerkraut
– Pickled foods
– Olives (unless you can get fresh ones)
– Fruits that are bruised or overripe
– Avocados that are very soft, mushy, overripe or starting to turn grey (slightly underripe avocados are fine in moderation). Guacamole should be avoided.
– Banana peels (as though you’d eat them anyway) and bananas that are overripe (turning brown or black). Bananas that are not overripe or bruised are totally fine, and are often eaten around Ayahuasca ceremonies in the Amazon.
– Dried fruits, such as raisins and prunes
– Fruit cake and candied fruits
– Cranberries, canned
– Red wine, especially Chianti; sherry, vermouth, champagne, brandy; beers and ales, including nonalcoholic; whiskey and liqueurs such as Drambuie and Chartreuse
– Dairy products that are close to the expiration date or that have been unrefrigerated (fresh yogurt is safe)
– Any food that has the word “hydrolyzed” or “autolyzed” in the ingredient list

In addition to the preceding foods (which are aged, fermented, preserved, overripe, etc) avoid the following in large quantities:

– Broad beans (fava and lima beans) – in large quantities
– Navy beans – in large quantities
– Peanuts – in large quantities
– Brazil nuts – in large quantities
– Coconut and coconut oil – in large quantities (coconut juice or coconut milk is safe)
– Raspberries – in large quantities
– New Zealand or Hot Weather Spinach (Tetragonia tetragonioides, a different plant from regular spinach, Spinacia oleracea, which is safe) – in large quantities
– Parsley – in large quantities
– Dill weed – in large quantities
– Dried seaweed – in large quantities
– Nutmeg – in large quantities
– Kombucha – in large quantities
– Dark chocolate – in large quantities (the theobromine in it may be potentiated, causing fast heartbeat)
– Caffeine in large quantities (in a few rare individuals, there may be a severe interaction with even small amounts of caffeine)

Also avoid:
– Aspartame (Nutrasweet)
– Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) (or anything with the word “hydrolyzed,” code for MSG)

These drugs and meds can be dangerous with MAOIs:

– other MAOIs
– SSRI’s (any selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor)
– antihypertensives (high blood pressure medicine)
– appetite suppressants (diet pills)
– medicine for asthma, bronchitis, or other breathing problems; antihistamines, medicines for colds, sinus problems, hay fever, or allergies (Actifed DM, Benadryl, Benylin, Chlor-Trimeton, Compoz, Bromarest DM or DX, Dimetane DX cough syrup, Dristan Cold & Flu, Phenergan with Dextromethorphan, Robitussin-DM, Vicks Formula 44-D, several Tylenol cold, cough, and flu preparations, and many others) — anything containing dextromethorphan/ DXM or with DM, DX or Tuss in its name, or anything containing pseudoephedrine.
– CNS (central nervous system) depressants
– vasodilators
– antipsychotics
– barbiturates
– alcohol

Illegal or recreational drugs that are VERY dangerous to combine with MAOIs:

– cocaine
– amphetamines (meth-, dex-, amphetamine), ephedrine, MDMA (Ecstasy), MDA, MDEA, PMA
– opiates (heroin, morphine, codeine, and especially opium)
– dextromethorphan (DXM)
– nutmeg
– 5-Meo-DMT

There are recorded fatalities from the combination of cocaine with MAOIs and 5-Meo-DMT with MAOIs.

Illegal or recreational drugs that can potentially be dangerous to combine with MAOIs:

– mescaline (any phenethylamine)
– barbiturates
– alcohol
– kratom
– kava

Some specific pharmaceutical drugs that should not be combined with MAOIs (some are mild risks, others serious):
– Adderall
– Alaproclate
– Albuterol (Proventil, Ventolin)
– Amantadine hydrochloride (Symmetrel)
– Amiflamine
– Amineptine
– Amitriptaline
– Amoxapine (Asendin)
– Atomoxedine
– Bazinaprine
– Befloxetone’
– Befol
– Benadryl
– Benmoxinb (Nerusil, Neuralex)
– Benylin
– Benzedrine
– Benzphetamine (Didrex)
– Bicifadine
– Brasofensine
– Brofaromine (Consonar)
– Buprenorphine
– Bupropion (Wellbutrin)
– Buspirone (BuSpar)
– Butriptyline
– Carbamazepine (Tegretol, Epitol)
– Chlorpheniramine
– Chlor-Trimeton
– Cimoxetone
– Citalopram (Celexa)
– Clomipramine (Anafranil)
– Clorgyline
– Codeine
– Cyclobenzaprine (Flexeril)
– Cyclizine (Marezine)
– D-deprenyl
– Dapoxotine
– Desipramine (Pertofrane, Norpramin)
– Desvenlafaxine
– Dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine)
– Dextromethorphan (DXM)
– Dibenzepin
– Dienolide kavapyrone desmethoxyyangonin
– Diethylpropion
– Disopyramide (Norpace)
– Disulfiram (Antabuse)
– Dobutamine
– Dopamine (Intropin)
– Dosulepin
– Doxepin (Sinequan)
– Duloxetine (Cymbalta)
– Emsam
– Entacapone
– Ephedrine
– Epinephrine (Adrenalin)
– Escitalopram (Lexapro)
– Esuprone
– Etorphine
– Femoxitine
– Fenfluramine (Pondimin)
– Flavoxate Hydrochloride (Urispas)
– Fluoxetine (Prozac)
– Fluvoxamine
– Furazolidone (Furoxone)
– Gabapentin
– Guanethedine
– Guanadrel (Hylorel)
– Guanethidine (Ismelin)
– Hydralazine (Apresoline)
– Hydrazine
– 5-Hydroxytryptophan
– Imipramine (Tofranil)
– Iprindole
– Iproniazid (Marsilid, Iprozid, Ipronid, Rivivol, Propilniazida)
– Iproclozide (Sursum)
– Isocarboxazid (Marplan)
– Isoniazid (Laniazid, Nydrazid)
– Isoniazid rifampin (Rifamate, Rimactane)
– Isoproterenol (Isuprel)
– L-dopa (Sinemet)
– Ladostigil
– Lazabemide (Pakio, Tempium)
– Levodopa (Dopar, Larodopa)
– Linezolid (Zyvox, Zyvoxid)
– Lithium (Eskalith)
– Lofepramine
– Loratadine (Claritin)
– Maprotiline (Ludiomil)
– Mebanazine (Actomol)
– Medifoxamine
– Melitracen
– Meperidine (Demerol)
– Metaproterenol (Alupent, Metaprel)
– Metaraminol (Aramine)
– Metfendrazine (Inkazan)
– Methamphetamine (Desoxyn)
– Methyldopa (Aidomet)
– Methylphenidate (Ritalin)
– Metralindole
– Mianserin
– Milacimide
– Milnacipran
– Minaprine (Cantor)
– Mirtazapine (Remeron)
– Mofegeline
– Moclobemide (Aurorix, Manerix)
– Monomethylhydrazine
– Montelukast (Singulair)
– Nalbufrine
– Naloxone
– Naltrexone
– Nefazodone
– Nialamide (Niamid)
– Nisoxetine
– Nomifensine
– Norepinephrine (Levophed)
– Nortriptyline (Aventyl)
– Octamoxin (Ximaol, Nimaol)
– Oxybutynin chloride (Ditropan)
– Oxycodone
– Oxymetazoline (Afrin, Dimetapp)
– Oxymorphone
– Orphenadrine (Norflex)
– Pargyline (Eutonyl)
– Parnate
– Paroxetine (Paxil)
– Pemoline (Cylert)
– Percocet
– Pethedine (Demerol)
– Phendimetrazine (Plegiline)
– Phenelzine (Nardil)
– Phenergen
– Phenelzine (Nardil, Nardelzine)
– Pheniprazine (Catron)
– Phenmetrazine
– Phenoxypropazine (Drazine)
– Phentermine
– Phenylephrine (Dimetane, Dristan decongestant, Neo-Synephrine)
– Phenylhydrazine
– Phenylpropanolamine (found in many cold medicines)
– Phenelzine (Nardil)
– Pirlindole (Pirazidol)
– Procarbazine (Matulane)
– Procainamide (Pronestyl)
– Protriptyline (Vivactil)
– Pseudoephedrine
– Oxymetazoline (Afrin)
– Quinidine (Quinidex)
– Rasagiline (Azilect)
– Reboxetine
– Reserpine (Serpasil)
– Risperidone
– Salbutemol
– Salmeterol
– Selegiline (Eldepryl, Emsam, Zelapar)
– Sercloramine
– Sertraline (Zoloft)
– Sibutramine
– Sumatriptan (Imitrex)
– Terfenadine (Seldane-D)
– Tegretol
– Temaril
– Tesofensine
– Tetrindole
– Theophylline (Theo-Dur)
– Thesbutiaint
– Thioridazine (Mellaril)
– Tianeptine
– Tolcapone
– Toloxatone (Humoryl)
– Tramadol
– Tranylcypromine (Parnate)
– Trazodone
– Tricyclic antidepressants (Amitriptyline, Elavil)
– Trimipramine (Surmontil)
– Triptans
– Tyrima
– Vanoxerine
– Venlafaxine (Effexor)
– Viloxezine
– Yohimbine
– Zimelidine
– Ziprasidone (Geodon)

Also avoid the following herbs for at least 48 hours before and after:

St. Johns Wort (if it has been taken regularly, needs two weeks to clear the system)
Betel
Boswellia
Carrot seed
Chamomile
Cowhage
Curcumin
Dill seed
Ephedra
Fennel seed
Fo-Ti
Ginseng
Horny Goat Weed
Kanna
Kava
Kratom
Licorice Root
Nutmeg
Parsley seed
Rhodiola Rosea
Scotch Broom
Siberian Ginseng
Sinicuichi
Turmeric
Yerba Mate
Yohimbe

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r/harmalas • • Nov 05 '22

Have been taking harmalas for a week and my skin now has glowing dots under a black light

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r/harmalas • • Jul 11 '23

Syrian Rue - fantastic trip report

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Tried Syrian Rue tea again yesterday after some experiments of preparation.

I found that the best/most psychedelic experience can be achieved with around 6gms of seeds boiled twice in white vinegar. I tried lemon juice, apple cider vinegar, and cold water soaking before, but the strongest experience was with white vinegar but with the massive disadvantage of nausea and dizziness.

I prepared the tea and drank it around 5 pm, almost 15 minutes later I started to feel like I’m daydreaming but nothing significant.

Around 6 I started hearing a loud buzz, like a swarm of bees or a broken neon light, it wouldn’t go away so I played some music (shpongle is my go to).

At around 6:30 I tried gaming but it felt like effort, so I decided to snuggle up and listen to music with headphones on, it was incredible, so enjoyable and emotion evoking.

At around 7 the nausea started to become unbearable, I decided to go and throw up, I was very dizzy and felt light visuals in the corner of my eyes.

After vomiting I settled down a bit and continued to listen to music while my brain started to enjoy some introspective thoughts about life and language and words and the present and future. It was like what you feel in the end of an ayahuasca trip.

Around 10:30 I decided to turn in and sleep, my brain was visually creating the most ridiculous scenes, and the buzz became even louder.

At 11:30 I started hearing choir music like angelic voices accompanied by a deep distorted voice, it was magical and scary

At 2 am I woke up and I had open eye visuals, kind of like the ones you have on acid, traces of your hand moving, a vibration in the world around me, I loved it and I felt so relaxed, it was magical.

5 am i fell asleep completely and the effects where almost all gone.

8 am I cried my eyes out when I heard a song

Now feeling very fatigued but content.

Thank you for reading till the end if you did 💜


r/harmalas • • Oct 25 '25

I heard you like extraction vids

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Looks like I can finally post here 🤓


r/harmalas • • Jun 09 '24

Peganum Harmala Consumption Guide

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This is a guide on how to safely use peganum harmala and how the plant’s alkaloids interact with certain tryptamines such as psilocybin and DMT. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of information online on the entheogenic uses of this plant or its absurdly potentiating synergy with tryptamines (and, according to a few reports, cannabis) so I have decided to write a guide on how to safely and effectively have an ayahuasca experience. You must respect and understand the magnitude of how intense and powerful this combination is before deciding to embark. The psychoactive effects of the alkaloids and the increased availability of monoamine neurotransmitters gives the experience an entirely new and uniquely distinct profile.

I. What is peganum harmala?

Peganum harmala is a flowering plant that grows in many areas of the mediterranean world. The plant contains a large variety of different alkaloids, but two of them are perhaps the most interesting: harmine and harmaline.

II. What is harmine/harmaline?

Harmine and harmaline are psychoactive alkaloids found in peganum harmala (and plenty of other plants as well, such as the ayahuasca vine, b. caapi) that are reversible monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs). Due to their reversibility, reversible MAOIs are a lot less diet-restrictive and overall safer than typical MAOIs like certain prescription antidepressants. Tyramine should still be avoided, which is most often found in cheese and certain dairy products. Harmine/harmaline are also unsafe when combined with certain substances like alcohol and many common prescription medications and SSRIs. Harmine and Harmaline are legal everywhere in the world except Australia, where they are a schedule 9 prohibited substance.

III. What does it do?

Peganum harmala is a potent psychedelic in its own right. Start low with dosing, because its effects are quite powerful and you are likely to underestimate its power. Effects typically kick in within 30 minutes, and lasts about 5-6 hours. Commonly reported visual phenomena include a rapid lateral vibration in the field of vision and double or multiple contours in objects, especially when these are in motion or when your eyes turn away from them. You may also see lightning-like flashes and tracers. With closed eyes, imagery is abundant and most often vivid and bright colored, with a predominance of red-green or blue-orange contrasts. Music appears to sound as if it were sped up or “chipmunk” like, and time dilation is common with moderate doses.

The most common and predominant negative side-effect of the alkaloids seems to be an intense feeling of nausea. It is strongly recommended that you acquire or extract the pure alkaloids, as this seems to greatly mitigate the nausea experienced with consuming its seeds. At active doses, they are a purgative, and will stimulate bowel movements (great if you’re constipated).

I have found that the best remedy for the nausea that harmala seems to present is consuming ginger root in tea form 30 minutes before consuming the alkaloids. In my own experience, this has not only lessened, but completely eliminated any nausea from consuming even high doses of harmine/harmaline. It’s quite common to experience a strong feeling of motion sickness. You will likely want to lay down and remain motionless for the duration of the trip.

Fun fact: the pure alkaloids, when extracted, are fluorescent and will glow a neon color under a black light. Now… onto the good stuff!

IV. Peganum harmala and DMT

Harmine/harmaline alkaloids and n,n dimethyltryptamine are the two staple ingredients used in ayahuasca brews. Compared to other psychedelics, the pharmacology of ayahuasca is particularly complex. DMT is mostly inactive when taken orally due to the presence of monoamine oxidase (MAO) enzymes in the gut. However, β-carboline alkaloids (eg, harmine and harmaline) protect DMT from degradation, allowing its access to the central nervous system. This results in an experience that is vastly different from vaporizing DMT. Following ingestion, peak hallucinogenic effects occur within 90–120 min, however there is wide individual variation. Effects may last up to four hours. Acute users of ayahuasca have reported feelings of transcending time and space, euphoria, meaningful encounters with seemingly sentient entities, and a divine sense of oneness. Narrative accounts of the ayahuasca experience present considerable overlap with phenomena associated with a near-death experience, including out-of-body experiences, the presence of an irreversible threshold, and travelling towards light via a tunnel or a void.

When it comes to orally consumed DMT, it is ideal to first have some level of experience with vaporizing the molecule, as the nature of these trips is typically significantly more intense than most other psychedelics. Another interesting property of these alkaloids is that it also potentiates and lengthens the duration of vaped DMT, more or less doubling its duration and overall intensity. Typically, vaped DMT will last anywhere from 5-20 minutes. Consuming the harmala alkaloids appears to increase the duration by about two-fold, lasting up to 40 minutes (!).

There also seems to be a slightly slower come-up when taking harmine/harmaline beforehand. Usually, the onset of vaped DMT occurs almost immediately after exhaling its vapor. The alkaloids seem to delay this onset by 1-2 minutes, so be mindful if you don’t immediately feel anything. It is advised that you first experience vaporizing DMT without the alkaloids beforehand.

V. Peganum harmala and psilocybin mushrooms

Psilocin is a tryptamine, much like DMT, and the two share a very similar pharmacological profile. The potentiating effects apply in pretty much the same fashion when combining the alkaloids with mushrooms, and this combination is commonly called “psilohuasca.”

Psilocybin mushroom trips usually last anywhere from 5-8 hours. In a similar fashion, consuming the alkaloids beforehand will effectively double the duration and significantly increase the intensity of the trip, so be very mindful when dosing. The duration will become comparable to that of LSD, and it may even make a 1-2 gram trip feel like one upwards of 5 grams.

Anecdotally, psilohuasca exacerbates the effects of nausea more than ayahuasca, so consuming ginger tea or other kinds of non-drug nausea reliefs becomes almost mandatory. Also, motion sickness becomes more noticeable due to the strange effects on perception that harmalas seem to introduce. It is heavily advised that you are in a comfortable indoor setting for the duration of the experience. As I mentioned before, you will likely choose to remain still and quiet.

VI. Dosage

The commonly reported threshold dose for experiencing harmala’s inhibiting effects on MAO enzymes seems to be approximately 3 grams of seeds. On average, peganum harmala seeds can contain approximately 2-6% alkaloids by weight. So, in three grams of peganum harmala seeds, you could expect to find roughly 60 to 180 mg of β-carboline alkaloids, including harmine and harmaline.

As stated before, it is strongly advised that you either extract or acquire the pure alkaloids in hydrochloride form (freebase is not as orally active, but can be vaped), as this will reduce the negative physical effects dramatically. This also makes dosing far easier and more accurate as there are varying levels of alkaloids per seed. Below is an anecdotal dosing guide:

100mg - Threshold dose for inhibiting MAO enzymes in your gut. This is a great dose if you’re only looking for the potentiating effects without feeling much from the alkaloids themselves, and recommended if trying them for the first time.

200mg - At this dose, you will experience hallucinogenic effects from just the alkaloids alone. As you scale up dosing, the presence of nausea and/or motion sickness may also become more prevalent. The effects of your tryptamine of choice will still ultimately “take over” your experience, so this is my personal preferred dose.

500mg - This is an incredibly potent dose. It will make the experience quite “harmala-heavy” and the chance of throwing up starts to become more likely than not at this range. However, it will certainly change the nature and profile of your trip to the extent that it almost feels like you’re on an entirely novel substance. It is best to work your way up to this dose gradually.

700mg and above** - This is generally an undesirable dose range, as purging/puking is practically guaranteed, making it impossible to truly enjoy the experience.

When combining the alkaloids with your tryptamine of choice, you must ideally dose the alkaloids first, about 30-45 minutes beforehand. This allows the MAO-inhibiting effects to “activate” and work properly. With DMT, the majority of users favor a 1:2 dose of alkaloids/DMT, but you are free to experiment.


r/harmalas • • Sep 01 '21

Heres some freebase harmalas that have been recrystalized. Harmine(left), thh(right), and harmaline(back)

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r/harmalas • • Jan 20 '24

No officer, no harmalas here.

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r/harmalas • • Aug 06 '25

Reddit restricted posts — subreddit should be public again

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Hey everyone. I apologize that Reddit, without notifying me, restricted this sub for the last 6 months. It was very aggravating to notice that no one has been able to post for that long.

I took for granted that this community rarely has issues that require moderation, and didn’t consider that Reddit would restrict it, but I’ll be more active here in the future.

Everything should be back to normal again, let me know if any issues are encountered.

Thanks!


r/harmalas • • Sep 01 '23

Imagine being 6 watching SpongeBob on youtube kids then this video pops up

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r/harmalas • • Nov 16 '24

Harmala Alkaloids — Information and Harm Reduction

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Disclaimer: There may be inaccurate information presented. I did my best to source information from primary peer reviewed sources. If you believe something is incorrect/inaccurate, please comment. Note that information related to recreational use is harder to base upon solid research.

DO NOT combine harmalas with mood-regulating medications like SSRIs, TCAs, lithium, etc. DO NOT combine harmalas with 5MeO-DMT, MDMA, DXM, cocaine, tramadol, or alcohol. Some of these risky combinations could be proven less risky with future research, but until then, STAY SAFE. Assume any other combination not listed here could be risky, and do thorough research.

What are harmalas?

Harmala alkaloids are reversible inhibitors of MAO-A (RIMAs). They were originally isolated from Peganum harmala, but they have been found elsewhere and also occur endogenously in humans. They have a broad range of neuropharmacological effects, including but not limited to: increased serotonin levels, antioxidant activities (such as inhibition of myeloperoxidase), cytotoxicity towards treatment-resistant cancer cells, and prevention of tau protein phosphorylation (which has implications in treating Alzheimer's disease). Research into the pharmacology of harmala alkaloids is ONGOING, and self-administration should only be done with extreme caution after extensive research. Ongoing research points towards harmalas having efficacy in treating several ailments, including but not limited to, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, depression, and anxiety. Note that potential efficacy does not guarantee effective treatment. The main concern with the pharmacology of harmalas right now seems to be the potential for genotoxicity.

Dosing harmala alkaloids recreationally:

Recreational use is advised against, but I'm providing a list of dose ranges because easily accessible information on this is relatively hard to come by. This information was gathered by sleuthing many experience reports, sadly there's no peer reviewed data on this. Some people will say that the doses listed here are too low, but I intentionally made the ranges on the lower side to prevent underestimation. "You can always take more, but you can never take less."

These doses are particularly for pure extracts of harmaline, harmine, or tetrahydroharmine.

  • Oral consumption:

- Light dose: ~15-50mg (harmaline); ~20-60mg (harmine or tetrahydroharmine)

- Moderate dose: ~50-100mg (harmaline); ~60-120mg (harmine or tetrahydroharmine)

- Strong dose: ~100-180mg (harmaline); ~120-200mg (harmine or tetrahydroharmine)

- Heavy dose (CAUTION): ~180mg+ (harmaline); ~200mg+ (harmine or tetrahydroharmine)

  • Inhalation (vaporization/smoking):

[DO NOT INHALE HCl SALTS, ONLY FREEBASE]

- Light dose: ~8-15mg (harmaline); ~10-20mg (harmine or tetrahydroharmine)

- Moderate dose: ~15-30mg (harmaline); ~20-40mg (harmine or tetrahydroharmine)

- Strong dose: ~30-50mg (harmaline); ~40-60mg (harmine or tetrahydroharmine)

- Heavy dose (CAUTION): ~50mg+ (harmaline); ~60mg+ (harmine or tetrahydroharmine)

The effects of harmala alkaloids in recreational use:

- Desirable effects may include, but are not limited to: internal/external hallucinations, tactile enhancement, introspection, dream potentiation, and euphoric sensations.

- Neutral effects may include, but are not limited to: pupil dilation, time distortion (could be desirable or undesirable), lethargy, and increased salivation.

- Undesirable effects may include, but are not limited to: dizziness (may be extreme at higher doses), vomiting, increased heart rate, anxiety, confusion, and general physical discomfort.

Syrian rue seeds: These seeds, from the specific plant Peganum harmala, contain roughly 3-4% harmala alkaloids by dry weight. 1 gram of dry Syrian rue seeds should contain roughly 30-40mg of full-spectrum harmalas. Full-spectrum seed extracts contain several harmala alkaloids, including but not limited to: harmaline, harmine, harmalol, harmol, and tetrahydroharmine. Pulverized Syrian rue seeds can be used to make a tea, which is the preferred method if you're going to use the seeds themselves.

Combinations with N,N-DMT: The most notable combinations of harmala alkaloids with N,N-DMT are in the forms referred to as ayahuasca, pharmahuasca, and changa.

Ayahuasca is a brew of harmala/N,N-DMT containing plants, Banisteriopsis caapi and Psychotria viridis, that has been used in the Amazonian basin for hundreds if not thousands of years.

Pharmahuasca is a "pharmaceutical-like" method of using the active ingredients of ayahuasca, where a capsule containing harmala alkaloids (like harmaline, harmine, or tetrahydroharmine) is taken roughly 45 minutes before taking a capsule containing N,N-DMT. People typically wait roughly 45 minutes before taking the N,N-DMT capsule to ensure that MAO enzymes in the gut have been adequately inhibited. Adequate MAO inhibition for pharmahuasca starts around the upper end of the light doses listed for oral consumption (~40mg +/- 10mg).

Changa is a blend of harmala/N,N-DMT containing plant materials that's intended to be smoked. There are several variations of changa preparations. "Infused herb" preparations, which aren't technically changa but achieve the same effect (roughly), are made by infusing non-psychoactive plant materials with harmalas and N,N-DMT.

This post will be updated to contain more information in the near future.

Notable references:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6823531/

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11011-024-01416-6

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378874114002748?casa_token=5ottMs_I0_wAAAAA:WILUHQzLWf_aZb61HbWXhygc85TNNGCcdIDM52BBEttOrf2LmCiy2XI0nkxfCWilG_8PbMXpHg

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/cbdv.202401308

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acsomega.1c00455


r/harmalas • • Mar 30 '23

Harmine freebase ethonol recrystalize.

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r/harmalas • • Nov 15 '22

Painting with harmalas! These 3 little paintings were painted on coffee filter papers using just a single crude harmala seed extract which was then diluted with varying amounts of 190proof ethanol . Each painting is photographed under UV light and then “natural” light.

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r/harmalas • • Oct 04 '25

First harmala vape cart

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I’ll give it a go to see if it works. I used harmalas mix freebase with PG.

edit2: feel quite dreamy and meditative, beautiful little effect


r/harmalas • • Dec 27 '20

Heres my extraction guide for those who were curious. A picture version of it is available on my sites blog.

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Syrian rue extraction: Bounty TEK

Posted by Erik of Bounty botanicals on Dec 11th 2020

  

In this tutorial we'll be discussing how to extract and separate harmine and harmaline from Syrian rue seeds using food safe materials only. 

This TEK isn't anything new really, but does contain tips and tricks to make a great extract while reducing frustrations :) 

Well, let's jump in shall we?

 THE CHEMICALS:

      

   First, let's go over the chemicals needed to extract the harmalas:

1. Sodium bicarbonate(baking soda)

2.Sodium carbonate (This can be made from baking soda by heating in the oven at 400 F for 30 min. or so)

3.Distilled vinegar(citric acid can also be used)

4.Plain salt with no other additives

5.Distilled water(it being distilled is optional, being most important in the final steps)

THE COLLECTION VESSELS: 

  

The "collection vessels" will be used to capture your filtrates, perform recrystallizations, and make solutions.

 It is best to use glass...Tip: It's better to go a little bigger on the vessels than to go too small. It's also better to have a few than to have just a couple. 

 A small vial and pipette can be used to collect samples for testing as well. 

THE COOKING VESSEL:

     

 The cooking vessel should be stainless steel or other non-reactive cooking material...

 and again go bigger than you think you'll need.  

FILTRATION: 

 

Proper filtration is a big part of making a clean harmalas extract and can be a real pain.....but the filtration method in this TEK makes it easy while still producing a plant matter free extract.

here's what is used:

         1.Strainer(to strain the seeds)

     2.Cotton balls(for initial filtering to remove large particles from tea and is an optional step)

         3.Cotton cloth(to remove finer particles from tea and to also capture harmalas precipitates)(be sure to use cloth with a tighter weave than a typical t-shirt. I personally use unbleached muslin)

4.Paper towels(we will be making a filter out of these for the remaining ultra fine particles)

5.Large funnel(again bigger is better)

STARTING PLANT MATERIAL:

-WHOLE Syrian rue seeds

Harmalas are readily extracted from whole seeds. Powdered seeds are a headache to filter and honestly I don't see an advantage to using them. I've never gotten a bigger yield, nor is it any easier to exhaust the seeds of its harmalas...IME. 

PROCEDURE PREVEIW:

Now that we have all the things we need for this TEK let's do a quick rundown of the steps:

  1. Making the tea- To make the tea we will be steeping the whole seeds in slightly acidic and near boiling water. The harmalas will dissolve into the water.

2.Extracting the harmalas by freebasing- After the tea is made a sodium carbonate solution is added and freebase harmalas will crystalize out of solution. This is then collected.

3. Dissolving the harmalas- The freebase harmalas are then dissolved into vinegar and water. 

4.Filtering harmalas solution- The harmalas solution is filtered to remove all plant matter. 

5. Purifying by recrystalizaton- Both freebasing and the manske technique are used to recrystallize the harmine and harmaline several times to obtain cleaner specimens.

6. Separating harmine from harmaline- Harmine freebase precipitates out of solution at a lower PH than harmaline. We'll be taking advantage of this.

7.Final manske(optional)- A final manske can be done and washed with water to remove excess salts for a clean HCL salt. 

THE PROCEDURE:

 1. MAKING THE TEA

      

Our goal for the tea phase is to remove the water soluble alkaloids from the seeds using hot and slightly acidic water. 

 Know that it'll take about a gallon of water total for every 100 grams of seeds you want to extract and at least four separate boils on those seeds to get all the harmalas out.

(Distilled water is not necessary until the final recrystallizations are performed)

  1. Place your seeds in the large pot and cover with enough water so that the water level is twice that of the seeds(keep in mind that similar to cooking grains rue seeds will absorb some of your water in the first boil)

  2. Add just a dash of vinegar to acidify your water. This helps to make the harmalas more soluble.

  3. Bring your pot to a low boil and stir occasionally.

  4. Once you notice the color of your tea is not getting any darker indicating full saturation...it's time to strain the tea from the seeds. 

-4a. Set up the strainer over a collection vessel to catch your tea(I'm using a small strainer over a funnel that leads into a jar).

-4b. Grab your pot containing the tea and seeds and pour the contents carefully into the strainer and allow the tea to fall away from the seeds.

5. Return the seeds to the pot and repeat steps 1-5 until the tea maintains a light yellow color despite a long steep time. This is a good indicator that the seeds are exhausted of the target harmalas. To make sure you've got it all you can take a small sample of this last tea pull and add a sodium carbonate solution until you reach a PH of at least 10. If you're not using a PH indicator add sodium carbonate solution until it smells...well... fishy. Excess base will not cause issues in this step, so no stress. If your tea turns milky or you see anything precipitate it means that there is still more alkaloids in the seeds and another boil is in order.

2. EXTRACTING THE HARMALAS BY FREEBASING

Now it is time to do the first recrystallization by raising the PH of our tea. This step and step 3 are done mostly to aid in the filtration step by reducing the total volume of the mother solution, but also serve to increase purity of the harmine and harmaline. 

  1. Slowly add the sodium carbonate solution to your tea while stirring until a PH of at least 10 is reached. For folks not using PH indicators add your base solution until no more color change is noticed. Your tea should turn from orange/yellow to a milky tan. This is because microscopic crystals are forming in the solution! Be cautious of the base reacting with the acid and alkaloids in the tea as it can bubble out of control! For this reason its good to have larger than necessary collection vessels. 

  2. Now to separate the crystals from the liquid portion. You can immediately run your crystal slurry through a cloth filter or wait for the crystals to settle to the bottom. Waiting allows you to decant(carefully pour off) a lot of the liquid greatly reducing the volume that needs to be filtered. Once the crystals are collected the liquid can be discarded. To make the filter setup, drape a square of cloth over a funnel and the funnel on top of a collection vessel.

  3. Place your crystals in a collection vessel and add enough water to allow the crystals to flow freely. Stir the crystals around in the water and pour it through a filter one more time. This is done to remove the remaining sodium carbonate. Again you can wait for the crystals to settle to decant the water if you wish.

  4. Place the crystals in a collection vessel in anticipation for the next step.

  5. DISSOLVING THE HARMALAS

By dissolving the crystals in an acidic solution we can obtain a concentrate that is much easier to filter than the initial tea would have been.

1. Again, being cautious of the solution bubbling over, slowly stir in vinegar to your freebase crystals until the harmalas fully dissolve and only dark brown solids remain. If the solution smells of vinegar(or is acidic for those using PH indicators), but has not dissolved all the alkaloids yet give it a little time, stir, and break up any large clumps of harmalas if present. 

2. Once the alkaloids are fully dissolved allow the solution to sit undisturbed allowing the dark brown plant matter to settle to the bottom of your collection vessel. 

4. FILTERING THE SOLUTION

                                                                                

 Filtering out the plant matter thuroughly is a vital step in making an impressive extract!

  1. Set up a cloth filter just like in step 2.

  2. Carefully and slowly, decant your solution into the filter apparatus, stopping as soon as you see the sediment trying to sneak its way out.

  3. Once the solution has made its way through the filter, move the filter apparatus to a new collection vessel and dump the rest of the sediment laced solution in the filter. Keeping these two filtrates separate will help prevent clogging in the next, much finer, filtration step. Once it's through the filter add some water to wash any remaining solution from the sediment.

  4. Now, we make a paper towel filter that's great for removing fine particles. This filter works by a combination of gravity, the wicking effect, and surface area. Its long length increases its effectiveness in all three of these areas. Here's how it's made:

4a- Fold in half and tightly roll up enough paper towels to fit fairly snuggly into your funnel.

4b- Be sure that a good length of the rolled up paper towel is sticking out of the bottom of the funnel and the other end is sticking up inside the funnel. The portion sticking out helps to better draw the solution through, and the portion sticking up in the filter increases surface area for the solution to pass through.

5. Run your cleaner filtrate through this filter first and the dirtier filtrate second. This will help speed things up.

6. Your collection vessel should now be filled with a sexy clean filtrate.

5. PURIFICATION THROUGH RECRYSTALLIZATION

Let's clean this up a bit! Your extract will become more and more pure with every recrystallization as more and more impurities get separated from the harmalas. We'll be using two techniques in this step: Freebasing, which we already did in step 2 and... the manske TEK.

5a.How to do a manske recrystallization

So, the manske works by adding salt to the harmalas solution forcing harmine and harmaline to crystallize. This occurs because harmalas is poorly soluble in salt water making a saline solution an excellent choice for recrystallization. Anyways, here's how it's done:

  1. Super saturate water with salt by adding salt to boiling water until no more salt will dissolve into it. 

*Supersaturation occurs when a solvent is holding more dissolved solids than its normally capable of at room temp. Usually, but not always.

this is accomplished by heating the solution increasing a given chemicals solubility in said solvent.*

2. While it's still hot, add the salt water you just made to your solution at a ratio of about 1:2-1:4(salt water: harmalas solution). Exact ratios aren't too important, but keep in mind the more salt water you add the faster it will crystallize causing the crystals to be smaller and less pure. 

3. As it cools crystals will start to form. This is because cooling the solution decreases the amount of dissolved solids the water can hold forcing the less soluble alkaloids out. This will take anywhere from minutes to days depending on the initial concentration of alkaloids and the amount of salt used.

4. Once fully cool and no more crystals seem to be forming, run it through the cloth filter apparatus. Be sure to include a collection vessel to collect this filtrate as it typically still has a little harmine and harmaline in it that can be cleaned/recrystallized separately to recover the loss. It's kept separate because it's contaminated with the unwanted alkaloids that we just cleaned out! 

5. When everything is filtered through, squeeze the excess solution out. There will always be some left over after squeezing and it is'nt necessary to remove all of it until your final manske. 

    -When that time comes to remove the excess salt simply wash the crystals with a small amount of cold water. Some harmalas will dissolve into the water, so be sure to save it. A sodium carbonate solution can be added to this water to retrieve the would be lost harmalas in freebase form.

6. The resulting harmalas salts can then be dissolved in hot water and the process repeated to clean the extract further. I personally like to do 3 manskes, but you can do as many as you like. 

5b. Recrystallizing by freebasing

Freebasing does not remove nearly the amount of impurities as a manske would, but it may be removing stuff that a manske can't. 

1.Simply repeat step 2 to do a freebase recrystallization. Again you can do as many times as you like, but there may be a small loss in yields every time.

Keep in mind if you plan on moving on to the next step which shows you how to separate the harmine and harmaline that it involves more freebasing.

That's all that's too it as far as making a nice Syrian rue extract goes! You now have a fairly pure mix of harmine and harmaline and can stop here, but by taking it a step further and separating the two, you will then know how much of each is present. If that sounds like something you'd want advance to step 6! 

(If you would like to make a HCL salt just do another manske. To remove table salt contamination simply wash the HCL crystals in cold water and run through a filter with a collection vessel to catch the water. Some harmalas will dissolve into this water, so simply freebase to retrieve it.)

6. SEPERATING HARMINE AND HARMALINE

Separating these two harmalas can be a bit of a pain....or pretty easy depending on how thorough you want to be. 

6A. The harmine

First, we'll retrieve the harmine.

  1. You'll need to start with a harmalas Aquarius solution. If you have harmalas salts simply dissolve in warm water.... If you have freebase you'll need to dissolve it in acidified water(use the minimum amount of acid needed to convert the freebase into a salt)

  2. Make a baking soda solution by adding baking soda to water until no more will dissolve.

  3. While stirring add the baking soda solution to the harmalas solution slowly stopping as soon as you see crystals start to form. Its important to go slow to prevent as much harmaline from precipitating out as possible. 

  4. Let it chill until crystals stop forming.

  5. Repeat steps 3-4 of this section until no more crystals form. Be careful as adding too much will cause harmalas salts to crystalize out of solution too(accidental manske). You'll know this has happened if the crystals are yellow and the abundancy of crystals is way more than anticipated. In this event the harmalas salts will re-dissolve when washed with water leaving behind your freebase harmine.

  6. Set up the same filter apparatus with accompanying collection vessel we've been using and pour your crystals through. Once the liquid has separated from your crystals, wash very well with fresh water to remove the remaining solution.

  7. Squeeze all the water out. You can stop here as your harmine is now reasonably separated from the harmaline, but by re-dissolving in acidified water and repeating steps 3- 7 from this section a few more times, it will be pure enough to glow blue under black light! (To check your progress dip a Q-Tip in the harmine solution and then in a volume of clean water all while viewing under a black light. If it glows greenish, give it another round of separation...If its glowing blue, this indicates that very little to no harmaline is present!)

6B. The harmaline

   To retrieve the harmaline we'll now need to use sodium carbonate to drive the PH up further.

  1. Make a sodium carbonate solution by adding sodium carbonate to water until no more will dissolve.

  2. While stirring your harmaline solution slowly add the sodium carbonate until no more crystals form.

  3. Set up that filter apparatus once again and collect your crystals.

  4. Wash crystals with lots of clean water to remove any remaining solution.

Thats it! 

You should now have some superb Syrian rue 

extract on your hands! 


r/harmalas • • Jan 12 '25

A shot of harmala tea

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r/harmalas • • May 29 '24

My chonkiest harmaline freebase yet!

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r/harmalas • • Nov 01 '25

250g Syrian Rue

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Non Manske process a/b method

Not a bad yield of 12.328g but I think I can do better with a few tweaks. This is a completely dry weight. The first weight I got was 15.232g, I thought it was fully dry but after putting it in a sealed jar with an oxygen absorber the weight changed by over 2G!.


r/harmalas • • Jan 15 '25

Golden harmala acetate

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One nugget, 3.9 grams. Another gram and a quarter of small pieces. Pulled from 100 grams pegamum seeds. Some of my prettiest work yet impo


r/harmalas • • Sep 25 '24

Just wanted to share a pic from my first harmala extraction (GordoTEK)

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