If there's a reboot or animation or whatever. I want Adam to return as Jayne. I liked him in Chuck, and I liked him in Firefly. He's a great character and his performance is enjoyable. If we have to have a president with opinions I disagree with (EDIT: with the hivemind approved upon appropriate level of teeth nashing outrage and disgust signifying I'm "one of the good ones"). We should be able to have an actor whose character has nothing to do with those opinions. (Although I'm guessing Jayne would also be a Trumper). Heck, lean into it with his character. The whole thing with Firefly was how all these people are banded together when most of them are at odds with one another, but at the end of the day they're on a spaceship and have to work together. So, bring back Adam! He's just as important as the others!

I never really thought it was cool for there to be a big bucket of untouchable people that "the community" somehow decided are banned, it seems ripe for witch-hunts and abuse. Also, I am glad to see abusive people punished. Of all the filmmakers who have done really bad things and deserve to be ex-communicated, it doesn't really seem like Whedon is on the same level. I have read the complaints and it does seem like he was nasty to a few actors like Gal Gadot and threatened their careers unprofessionally.

However, the cast of firefly have _all_ said, I believe, that they had no major bad experiences or problems with him whatsoever. Should be really not be included in the show he _made_? Could it not be that he still actually has a _lot_ to contribute and that him working with people who already know and like him isn't some unthinkable crime?

I'm just asking questions here, I'd like to talk about it and hear what people think, genuinely.

Like seriously, if you've played rpg's or mmo's, you know how valuable healers are since they keep the group alive. With Simon being a world class doctor and with the Serenity crew doing so many dangerous jobs, its a match made in heaven.

So why was Mal so intent on getting rid of Simon? Every ship/crew could use a medical personnel, let alone an amazing doctor like Simon who is more than what Mal could ever hope to have on his crew for basically free? Yea they would have to steer clear of the Alliance more, but weren't they already doing that?

It always seemed strange to me. If I was Mal I would be begging for Simon/River to stay on. They literally completed the team. Mal, zoe and Jayne were the muscle/soldiers, they had a great pilot in Wash, a level headed mentor in Sheppard Book, a really good gifted mechanic in Kaylee, and they had credentials/connections with Inara. All they were missing was a medical doctor and Simon fit that bill.

What do the mudders do? Is mud a commodity? Do they export it? Who wants to buy mud and what for?

Look, I like Alan Tudyk. He is a fantastic actor, and Wash was a great character. But if there is some kind of *live action* season 2, I hope Wash isn't there.

Firefly isn't just a sci-fi show... it is a space western. The Alliance has some advanced tech, but part of the show's charm was that most people had very basic tech. The food was resequenced protein. The engines were greasy. The toilets and sinks were built together as a unit. The guns still used bullets. Yeah, laser guns existed... but they were really expensive and rare.

The actors have aged, and this would have to follow Serenity... and Wash died. And I, for one, don't want an AI with Wash's personality, or a clone, or a holographic recreation, or a robot... because those things don't fit Firefly's feel. They might make sense on core worlds in the Alliance, but not out in the Rim. You expect some technological progress, but you don't want so much that you destroy the western side of a space western.

By all means, put Wash in the writer's room, have him direct, be a part of the show. Just not in front of the camera.

(And of course, if it is an animated show or movie set between Objects In Space and Serenity, my stance will change.)

As someone with a child who is on the extreme portion of the spectrum, I feel like River is so incredibly autism-coded. Admittedly it's after the Alliance wrecked her brain...Her hyper-focus on some things, her innocence and child-like demeanor, and the ultimate violence. I see River and she reminds me so much of my son. While she is extremely articulate, she relies a lot on feeling. She has a very strong fight or flight response. The episode "safe" reminded me of common elopement situations.

So much of River reminds me of my own son (level 3 autism needs). I relate so hard to Simon in his care for her.

Anyone relate? (Not here for judgment, just relatability and discourse, anything else will be ignored. 💋✌️)

Edit: due to the overwhelmingly negative response to my post, I thank you all for invalidating my own experience as someone with both ADHD and autism and a child with level 3 autism. Glad we're all here to invalidate everyone's experience and tell them they're wrong about their feelings. Leaving the sub. But thank you for reminding me that my experiences and opinions on said experiences are not recognized, and altogether wrong. Way to go guys. Shiny...

Ok. Ok. Ok.

I know that Joss is some kind of personna non grata, but I really don't care.

He created Firefly, it was his baby. I am so hoping that he is back in there, like a favorite dirty shirt. He has the scripts. He has the vision. He is the soul of the franchise.

So he is not accused of being a sexual predator. Not accused of being a financial grifter. No, he is being accused of being a mean overbearing angry director. Made actors cry! Boo fucking hoo.

Genius sometimes doesn't understand politics. He saw his vision being usurped by the studio on Buffy and freaked out vocally. He took his emotions out on the actors thrust upon him. Sorry, he cares.

The man is a genius.

Bring back Joss. I'm sorry, not sorry. It looks like we may be getting the entire cast, but without the driving force, will it still be our Firefly?

Bring back Joss.

(Warning! Possible spoilers for Firefly, Serenity, and The Fifth Element ahead!)

Just rewatched one of my favorite movies, The Fifth Element, and realized how similar Leeloo and River's characters are. They both are kind of strange through most of the story, they are thin and don't look like they can fight, they are super smart (Leeloo just watches encyclopedia entries and absorbs information), they speak 2 languages, they've been to space, etc. Just don't mess with them, because when they get pissed, they will kick your gorram asses pretty easily!

Ah well, now it's in my head-canon that they are secret space sisters!

I'm not even talking about them using the same dating systems even though a lot of places even with their rotations changed to match Earth's are likely out of sync. I'm asking why they're still using Anno Domini of all things! the predominant cultures are clearly a mixture of many from Earth and even then The Alliance is clearly secular, and I think it's fair to say that Humanity literally packing up and leaving for an entirely new solar system several dozen to several hundred lightyears away is a more important and significant event than the supposed birth of a carpenter whose purpose in life was to die on a stick

Because it ended.

OK, if you’re like me, you’ve watched Firefly hundreds of thousands of times. And introduced others. And ended friendships if they didn’t love it. I’m a newcomer to the Popcorn in Bed channel and her Firefly series does not disappoint. Watching her discover it, be intrigued, and ultimately fall deeply in love, as we all did, is such a refreshing joy. I’m about to start her Serenity video and I am giddy, knowing how every frame of the movie is going to illuminate her, entertain her, and break her heart. Just sharing in case you crave a rewatch with a twist.

I get what y'all are saying about the audiobooks and all, but it better not be. I'm sure a lot of people would love an audiobook recording with the cast. A lot of people in the comments of recent posts have brought up a good point: anything less than a show or a reunion special would be disappointing. They've had a growing fanbase over the past 20 years and they know it. With the nature of the hints they're dropping, it seems like they're gearing towards some kind of continuation.

Edit: i would personally be okay with anything other than audiobooks. other commenters are drawing the line at a revival

Critical Drinker is doing a live Serenity rewatch this Sunday on his YouTube channel with friends. I don't know the time, though.

His Firefly rewatch with Mauler is worth checking out.

Because everytime I watch it I crave strawberry’s. As much as I hate the seductive Kaylee strawberry scene it DOES look so good.

I dont understand why dont they just do that. I watched old episodes. Yes there are mistakes. But in that time people just didnt understand Sci-Fi movies or tv serieses. But now i think they can make series like "4 years later. Alliance started to do bad things. Captain and his team start to fight against alliance" or something. There are more shitty serieses.

If Wash comes back, it will be because everyone wants him to, IRL. We do not need to waste valuable runtime pretending otherwise with some retroactive justification. Oh he’s a clone? He’s a robot? That’s where the story was organically headed? Suuure. Absolutely no one wants Alan out of the picture here, so let’s just skip the part where we pretend like we need a reason for him to stay. Slap a big zipper scar on chest if you really want, but we don’t need to make it any more involved than that