r/antiwork • u/BUFFBOYZ4Lyfe • Jan 02 '22
My boss exploded
After the 3rd person quit in a span of 2 weeks due to overwork and short-staffed issues, he slammed his office door and told us to gather around.
He went in the most boomerific rant possible. I can only paraphrase. "Well, Mike is out! Great! Just goes to show nobody wants to actually get off their ass and WORK these days! Life isn't easy and people like him need to understand that!! He wanted weekends off knowing damn well we are understaffed. He claimed it was family issues or whatever. I don't believe the guy. Just hire a sitter! Thanks for everything y'all do. You guys are the only hope of this generation."
We all looked around and another guy quit two hours later š³
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I don't know how you stopped yourself laughing.
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u/BUFFBOYZ4Lyfe Jan 02 '22
Oh we totally did when he left.
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Jan 02 '22
I have a supervisor who used to blow up in similar ways. I ended up having a private chat with our manager because I laughed at him during one.
I had no defense other than "what? It was funny."
Still not had a written warning yet, somehow.
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u/BreakImpressive2023 Jan 02 '22
What happened after the other guy quit
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u/BUFFBOYZ4Lyfe Jan 07 '22
The other guy simply put down his name tag and walked out. My boss didn't know until closing time. He was eerily quiet and looked defeated.
It put a smile on my face.
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u/Sad_Suggestion Jan 02 '22
Wonder at what point boss man will come to realize that he is, in fact, the problem here.
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u/NiceRat123 Jan 02 '22 edited Jan 03 '22
Never. Read that post where the guy worked for a Salesforce type company. Old boomer ran it like Scrooge. Then son comes in, treats employees with respect, gives them wages and vacation time.
Start seeing the company explode in growth. Then big ol moneybags is pissed off for giving his employees good things. Comes back and ultimately torpedoes his own company
All over pride qnd some belief that the way it was is the way it will always will be
EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/rsxa2c/business_died_because_owner_needed_people_to/
I think this is the link. Sadly it was removed. Can try removeddit or an archive but I think this is the post
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Jan 02 '22
Hilarious. There's some new numbers out that companies who pay well and treat employees well out perform the Russell 3000 stock index. - the old belief of cutting costs to make the books better no longer is holding any sort of truth.
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u/Freakychee Jan 02 '22
The most important thing to a boomer like that is their pride. They would die for it. Working conditions, ethics, vaccines, anything really.
These people will act like they have it hardest of every generation alive and they forget the reason they are called boomers is because the previous generations went to war, died and they had to repopulate.
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u/Chance-Deer-7995 Jan 02 '22
Someone ran the numbers a few weeks ago and Scrooge payed better than current minimum wage when adjusted for inflation...
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u/Chance-Deer-7995 Jan 02 '22
This seems to be the impasse they are all at right now. They had 40+ years of bullying without consequence and now they get confused when the consequences actually come.
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Jan 02 '22
They're on the find out part of fuck around and they ain't liking it none.
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u/deep_uprising Jan 02 '22
The problem with being the common denominator is that you don't have the high vantage point needed to see you're the problem.
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u/VictimStats Jan 02 '22
They won't. Ever.
They are incapable of the level of reflection that it would take. They will simply find something or someone else to blame. For the last 40 years, they have been coddled into thinking it's never their fault and never their responsibility. If anything goes wrong, it's the fault of someone else. Did they sexually harass someone and get sued for millions? It's the fault of snow flakes. Did they export the jobs, drop product quality to absolute shit, and tank their own market share? Millennials are to blame. Have they never hired new employees and not kept pace with their pay rate while being an abusive employer? No one wants to work anymore.
It's not all boomers, and it's not just boomers, but it's become a short hand for recognizing a particular world view at this point.
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u/GILLHUHN Jan 02 '22
Thats why it's important in these situations to let it be known that he is the issue while you also quit. The sooner these people learn that things need to change and we can't work on skeleton crews with no time off and for little pay the better.
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u/Xarkkal Jan 02 '22
Narcissistic boomers will never realize they are the problem here. The world was catered to them, and that has continued into their businesses. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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u/SoundandFurySNothing Jan 02 '22 edited Jan 03 '22
Canāt teach an old narcissist self awareness
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When boomers were young older generations called them āgeneration Meā. They were so, so right.
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u/TexasRabbit2022 Jan 02 '22
Many years ago I had a store manager who when he wouldnāt eat , would lose his mind On numerous occasions he would throw small things: His phone-his hat ( when he was in a perishable department), etc
Then when he was ok again he always blamed it on how the employees didnāt do their jobs so he always had to do too much
Never apologized to anyone
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u/shadowdip Jan 02 '22
...umm that requires a 3rd graders worth of self awareness. So not gonna happen.
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u/InterstellarReddit Jan 02 '22
They grew up where working actually meant something. You could buy a home, eat it to vacations, you could even maintain a family.
The reason people donāt wanna work is because thereās no point in killing yourself. Boomer Gen killed themselves, because they were getting something in return. All we are getting is tired.
We canāt afford anything that they could afford and their time.
Remember that this boomer generation had so much money that theyāre going to move was to buy an expensive sports car as a midlife crisis.
Imagine having a home, having two cars already, having a family, having payrd for college, and then still having money in your early 40s to buy a sports car.
All this while working at 9 to 5 job.
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u/TP2099 Jan 02 '22
Never.
The business will go under and he'll go to his grave swearing allegiance to Trump and ranting about how millenials ruined all his hard work.
Expect a sizeable donation in his will for the GOP.
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u/Chelbaz Jan 02 '22
Run out of work before you run out of family.
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u/AllHailSlann357 Jan 02 '22
Excellent advice. Did this end of 2019, not a single regret - especially considering the world melted a month later.
Was stuck in a toxic industry for reasons, the moment I got rid of those reasons, I left without looking back. Took well over a decade and a lot of patience, perseverance and luck.
I credit it as the best decision of my life, and the reason I maintained/am maintaining the remaining family I have. I still have no idea what I'm going to do next, but it's funny how you can go 2 years without a thing and realize maybe you don't really need that thing.
It was a lot of breaking the 2-income trap, and being dedicated but flexible about amorphous household roles. We're living through some very strange, endgame disaster capitalism with terrible math gone terribly wrong (thanks, boomers) and I suspect this strangeness will outlive me.
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Jan 02 '22
THIS. I travel nurse 26 weeks out of the year, make almost double what I make working full time, and have 6 months out of the year to visit family, vacation with my husband, and just live my life. Won't be looking back for a long time.
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u/My_50_lb_Testes Jan 03 '22
Travel MLS and it's so amazing. You lose out on some things of course, but I'm making 4 times what I made in a permanent position and I have so much more power as an employee.
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u/RegisteredNurseDude Jan 03 '22
I got a local contract assignment through an agency. My life is exactly the same as it was when I was a full time nurse at the hospital. The only difference is a different business writes my check, and it's triple what I used to make when I worked directly for the hospital
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u/TruckerMark Jan 02 '22
Unfortunately when you run out of family work is your family.
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Jan 03 '22
Had a wise man told me ,while I was stressed out, missing time with my kids " you only get 18 summers with your kids, they don't give a shit about your job" put in my Two weeks notice the next day... Best decision I ever made.
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u/Dwarfella Jan 03 '22
Seriously though. I was working two jobs for awhile, both cleaning. The hospital job made the decision to start paying every employee at least $18 an, while my other job at an independent care facility wasn't even willing to pay $15. When I quit my job at the independent care facility, my boss was shocked. It's so infuriating. Like, I'm working two freaking jobs and barely get to see my boyfriend let alone anyone else in my life. Oh course I'm going to choose the job that actually pays more.
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u/al323211 Jan 02 '22
All of yāall shouldāve collectively asked for a raise on the spot.
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u/TennesseeTon at work Jan 02 '22
Lmao that'd be amazing. He's already pissing and moaning about being short staffed, what's he gonna do, fire you?
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u/Freakychee Jan 02 '22
The guy called people into his office to bitch and whine like a toddler to make themselves feel better.
Of course he lacks logical thinking and self control and will fire someone out of pride and spite.
And then whine about it when someone else quits in response to the firing.
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u/aDingDangDoo_Doo Jan 02 '22
The owner (based on OP's recalled rant alone) would be the stubborn SOB to fire everyone and watch his business burn to the ground rather than think or act proactively.
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Iām so fucking glad to finally be in a non-abusive work relationship. The only time we ever talk about mass quitting to get a raise is when we have to do extra doc review, and thatās just so we get brought coffee more often. We all know what everyone makes and itās plenty for what we do. I fucking hated ducking into alleyways and conspiring behind dumpsters like āAnd how many rubles doth the overlords bestow upon thee each fortnight? I find I am in want of survival and fear requesting so much as a coin for bread.ā
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u/IdontknowhothefIam Jan 02 '22
Not everything is solved with money. A couple hundreds will not overcome the absence of rest, weekends, days with family or simply free time. I wanna earn good money without sacrifice my life for it.
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Jan 02 '22 edited Jan 02 '22
Hiring a babysitter for your shift: 10.00hr
What you make: 15.00hr
Thanks boss, Iād love to make less than 5.00 an hr tonight.
EDIT: the values used in my example were chosen for mathematical simplicity and do not necessarily reflect real wages. I paid for full time childcare for years. It was unbelievably expensive.
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u/greenfox0099 Jan 02 '22
Pshhh babysitter is 15 to 25 round here i would lose money going to work.
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u/GregTheMad Jan 02 '22
i would lose money going to work.
It's called the poverty trap.
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u/jethvader Jan 02 '22
Iām a grad student with three young kids, and we pay more for daycare than my stipendā¦
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u/FrozenEagles Jan 02 '22
Babysitter for $10? I don't know where the hell you'd find one that cheap
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u/Crepe_Cod Jan 02 '22
You can get one for $10 an hour if you don't mind hiring just a slightly older child š¤·āāļø
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u/bizzaro321 Jan 02 '22
Donāt you know, youāre supposed to act like you are entitled to a teenage family members time, just like your boss feels entitled to yours? Itās pretty simple math.
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u/TangoMikeOne Jan 02 '22
And on a weekend, when I should be spending time with my family, preventing issues outside of work from affecting my life and refreshing and renewing myself so I can give my best to a job I love for an employer that respects and nurtures me - instead of a demanding, entitled, parasitic dead end in my life that steals my time, my happiness and my will to live for the "hilarious" salary of the square root of fuck all.
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u/onestopmedic Jan 02 '22
$10/h for a sitter??? $20h has been the bare minimum in my area long before Covid. Hiring a sitter for an hour or two I might be able to find something a little cheaper, but for a full 8 - 10h shift there are mandatory requirements for watching kids. CPR cert, Safety requirements, cooking requirements, educational, etcā¦. Non of that comes cheap (nor should it).
Iāve said point blank to previous employers that if I donāt absolutley have to pay for child care I wonāt. If Iām asked to work outside my scheduled work then compensation for unexpected expenses on top of my normal pay is bare minimum to get me to work. Otherwise the answer will always be no.
Iām dead honest with employers. Family comes first, spare time comes second, work comes third. Work is there to allow me to do the things I want to do with my family and my spare time. If work interferes without proper compensation then Iām out. Left my previous job of 8 years last June for this exact reason. Company tried to change my position and schedule due to people dropping like flies. I refused when they denied my compensation request. Put my two weeks in the second I got the news. I didnt stay for the two weeks, walked out after giving notice. Got a new job with similar values as mine the following week with a massive 50% increase in pay and bonuses.
Fuck companies like this, and fuck bosses who think people should sacrifice their lives for a company. Fuck. That.
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boss doesnt care, they are making 300+ $ an hour from you.. you could be making negative money and they wont give a fuck aslong as they get theirs
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u/mooimafish3 Jan 02 '22
Sadly most asshole bosses I've seen aren't even getting rich. You are making $10/hr and they are making $14/hr.
In the office world you're making $50k, your boss makes $80k, and is just trying to appease their out of touch boss making $120k, and down the line...
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u/peggyi Jan 02 '22
At the speed of a rampaging turtle, the Canadian government is beginning to introduce $10/day daycare. BC our provincial premier is an entitled conservative asshat, I expect the program to be up and running sometime in the next ten years.
Sigh.
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u/Graphitetshirt Jan 02 '22
"He wanted weekends off to be with his family" š¤š
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u/TheLateThagSimmons Cosmopolitan Jan 02 '22
This is ultimately why I left my leadership position last week.
Upper leadership, who are majority older Gen-X and Boomers, just cannot wrap their head around the fact that COVID changed everything.
People realized through the pandemic that their own health, their family, their home, their friends, and their passions are all more important than their job. Jobs used to be #1 or #2 for most Americans, because that was the culture. Now job is #4 or #5 at best. That's just how it is.
The job supports those things, not the other way around.
Upper leadership can't understand this because their whole identity is their job and career. They think that the job in itself is the goal and thus the reward. "No one cares about their job anymore." Fucking... Yes. That is correct, stop bitching and adapt.
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u/lilkimchi88 Jan 02 '22
I am dealing with this as well. I am 33 and my boss is only 40 but she and I have very different ideas about work-life balance. We both have families and because she is happy to live her work 60-70 hours a week and never be fully present, she doesnāt understand why I have an issue with it.
I finally had to remind her that she is salary and I am hourly and am literally not being paid to ignore my kids and take calls and do work at home.
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u/MontyAtWork Jan 02 '22
When I was 26, I worked registration for an ER. After 6 months of watching fogies and younger people alike express that their single biggest regret was "working all the time" and "not having spent more time with friends and family", I quit my entire career path and started only working part time from then on.
What's interesting is how quickly you realize everyone works themselves to death and when they're not doing that they're eating and drinking themselves to death to cope with the stress from working themselves to death.
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u/Sweetlittle66 Jan 02 '22
One thing that became clear to me during the pandemic was that much of what we do for work can be paused indefinitely and nobody cares.
I work at a large research institute and they just totally shut down years-long projects overnight, with some staff switching over to COVID projects and the rest sent home.
After that, can your a-hole supervisor really turn round and tell you that you can't go home at 6pm because you need to set up a crucial experiment before tomorrow? That was the mentality before COVID.
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u/kcox1980 Jan 02 '22
My wife left her last job as a salaried manager because the plant manager expected every member of management to work 12 hour+ days 5 days a week plus a weekend rotation. If someone left "early" he would make it a point to call them out on it the next day. What was really frustrating for her is that for the last 3 or 4 hours of the day every day nobody would actually do any work, they would just sit around and chat. The justification is he wanted management there to "support production" because he didn't trust the shift supervisors to do their job.
We got invited out to a dinner with the management staff once and the guy who invited us all out made a toast to "thank the spouses" for being so understanding about all the missed family time, specifically calling out missing out on the lives of our children, and assured us "it was all worth it" to make the company successful. I was seething during that little speech. I told my wife that I wouldn't be attending any more of these dinners for fear of saying something that might get her in trouble.
It started to cause problems with our marriage. I tried to be understanding, and I never tried to "make" her quit but I let her know that I wasn't happy being married to an absentee wife. For those 2 years it was very much a situation where she would wake up, go to work, then come home and go straight to bed. Luckily she moved on to a much better job with a company with a better work/life balance culture.
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u/Bosconino Jan 02 '22
āLife isnāt easyā. Yeah, because of you dipshit.
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Jan 02 '22
The irony of saying "life isn't easy" while bitching about an inconvenience at work.
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u/parkesc Jan 02 '22
"He claimed it was family issues or whatever"
That boss has been divorced at least once, and his grown kids avoid him. No question.
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u/Larnek Jan 02 '22 edited Jan 04 '22
Wife had a boss like that, he was a total idiot, had no clue as to the world around him, racist, sexist, the usual. She ran the company and he liked the numbers being sent to him for 6 months of the year when he lived in Mexico. The other 6 months he bitched nonstop and tried cutting every last corner possible while also sexistly undercutting her every step of the way. All while demanding she do things his way, only to bitch when they cost even more money, his time and labor costs.
His wife of 15yrs divorced him to become poor because he was a wildly narcassist asshole and then his only daughter didn't invite him to her wedding because, yep, he's a narcissistic asshole.
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u/NedRyerson_Insurance Jan 02 '22
If it's so easy to just go hire someone (a babysitter) why can't you get a full staff so people aren't forced to work weekends?
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u/exotics Jan 02 '22 edited Jan 02 '22
Why work and pay a sitter? Just as easy to stay home at that point.
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u/DataIsMyCopilot Jan 02 '22
And same income when you consider the amount many people make and the cost of a sitter. I was a SAH parent because I would have been handing basically my whole paycheck over to a daycare so whats the point?
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u/drewyz Jan 02 '22
I havenāt been able to find a sitter in over a yearā¦. and they charge $15/hour where I live.
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bossmans like "i know i pay you min wage or something... but you should pay your sitter 3/4 of that $ and come into work anyway...
"fuck you, im making money, i dont care where yours goes"
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u/mrs_david_silva Jan 02 '22
So basically someone yells at the people who were actually at work, working, to stop working and listen to someone who tells the workers no one wants to work. This mindset needs to die.
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u/PuffDragon95 Jan 02 '22
I work 70-80 hours a week and have had multiple people tell me this shit like im going to agree with them. 800,000 plus dead, 2 million retired earlier than expected, people having to take care of kids, people who received inheritance, etc.
the whole no one wants to work crowd conveniently forgets to leave how much more expensive it is now compared to previous generations.
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u/DoctorEvilHomer Jan 02 '22
When I worked collections I was the top collector in my department. I earned 3% commission on my collections. The last month I worked there I made over $1800 just in commission that month. The next highest in our department didn't even break $1000. This was during the big 2008 crash, so the whole place was down on collections. Our boss pulls us all in one by one to yell at the workers that they need to collect more if they want to keep their jobs. So he stopped people from working, to yell at them to work more. I asked him if he was serious. After some back and forth, I basically had to explain to him that pulling us ALL in to yell at us without any rhyme or reason is stupid. I explained how much I collected, how I am constantly the top collector and instead of doing my job, I am being threatened with firing if I don't do better? I politely stood up and told him fuck you and left. This was the owner of the company. I don't think any managers/owners really have a clue how to do their jobs.
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Right now is the time to ask for a raise. You're over-worked and highly stressed and deserve it.
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Yes, let him know now that two more people have quit you'll be carrying even more of the workload, and he's now spending even less having two less people on the payroll.
You're going to need a raise effective immediately or you might have to start looking for a new job.
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u/gotsreich Jan 02 '22
Or hell, talk to all of your coworkers and coordinate everyone asking for the same raise at the same time or everyone quits. There's some word for that... ah slipped my mind.
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u/The_real_thad_henry Jan 02 '22
Who wants to bet they don't pay enough to afford a sitter
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u/First-Celebration-11 Jan 02 '22
āAre you offering to pay for your employees childcare fees?ā
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u/SkylarAV Jan 02 '22
They took our unions and then grew to think they could treat however they wanted with no one to oppose them. They forgot they actually need us. We need a new social contract
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u/Afferbeck_ Jan 03 '22
We're always told 'don't bite the hand that feeds'. But when that hand is barely giving up scraps, the focus goes to the hand holding the whip. And that fucker is getting bitten.
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u/Schnoiztier Jan 02 '22
Let the sitter solve your family issues, ezpez. Maybe he can also sleep with the wife and adopt the child while he is at it. Just let someone else do the nice stuff and you work.
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u/lokie65 Jan 02 '22
People don't quit jobs. They quit toxic management. A bad boss will do more damage to morale than almost any other factor.
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u/mechanicalcontrols Jan 02 '22
And that's the truth. I work outside a lot of the time. There's not a lot of creature comforts on a construction site. It's damn cold in the Rocky Mountain winter. I can put up with that, but if my boss suddenly develops a Napoleon complex, I'm gone in five minutes. "Here's the keys to the company's truck. Mail me my last check."
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its not that people dont want to work anymore.. they just dont want to work FOR YOU
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u/Topnikoms416 Jan 02 '22
Hes right, life isn't easy. This guy had to quit his job and now has to find a new job because the one he worked at is shit and he was being treated unfairly. People are fucking stupid for thinking that employees should have some sort of vested interest in the success of a business that doesn't give 2 shits about them. It's a job, not a life style. We work to live, not live to work.
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Jan 02 '22
I worked at a place so bad that the building was falling apart and 3/4 of it was condemned and we lost a big customer and when that happened they cut our hours. I joked to a coworker who I trusted āhow long until this place goes underā anyway a few weeks later the guy at the top held a meeting in the office about my comment and encouraged everyone in the room to rat out the person who āstarted these rumorsā so he could talk to them personally lol. Needless to say out of 15 operators 10 quit over the next 2 weeks lmao
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u/Either-Progress4847 Jan 02 '22
News flash: Nobody actually WANTS to work. We have to work to barely survive
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u/koosley Jan 02 '22
This is the thing that gets me every time I heard boomer and political figures say this. Of course no one wants to work. Its coded in our DNA to put forth the least amount of effort for the biggest payoff. I can tell you with 100% certainty that I am only working because I need to work to survive.
Whats happening is people are collectively deciding to not put up with abusive shit anymore. We finally have a labor shortage where people can pick and choose and people choose not to deal with OP's boss. Ironically all the decisions made during covid putting economy above health helped kickstart this.
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u/wknight8111 Jan 02 '22
The real tragedy of this all is that the manager doesn't understand why it's happening. He thinks he's losing staff because the staff are lazy, not that he's paying too little and demanding too much. Until the manager learns that lesson, that whole workplace is going to continue to suffer and dwindle. Each next person out the door will increase the stress on the remaining team members and eventually drive out somebody else. It's a death spiral.
A better system would have employees treated well, they wouldn't leave, and there would be nice staffing crisis. Getting to that point seems impossible at some businesses.
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u/randy_bob_andy Jan 02 '22
I still can't figure out if this is aggressive bargaining/manipulation gone wrong of if they've actually convinced themselves that an employee "only" working 40 hours a week is just a leech.
I left my job for the same reason, told them I couldn't do overtime. It was mandatory so I requested a drop to half-time. They couldn't manage that for some reason so I quit. I don't know why that's preferable to having a full time employee but that's the way she goes I guess.
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I'd just reply something along the lines of; "If you keep yelling all of us will quit and you can sail this ship yourself. Who do you think you are, talking to us like this? You don't own us. Settle down and come up with a plan to make things better around here. That's what you are supposed to be doing, instead of yelling and ranting."
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u/edwartica Idealist with grey hair on their head Jan 02 '22
No shit! I can tell this is a smaller company because HR would NOT allow this shit.
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u/theoneandonlyfester Jan 02 '22
You should have all said "ok boomer" and mass quit
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I had a manager tell me that most of the time people leave itās because of a bad boss and in the same breath he says heās lost half of his people to Amazon.
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u/DangerHawk Jan 02 '22
Lol Do you realize how shitty of a person and boss you have to be to lose half your team to fuckin Amazon?! lol People don't go out of their way to get a job at Amazon. Amazon is like the saftey school you keep in your back pocket when you get rejected by your safety school's safety school.
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u/Rustmutt Jan 02 '22
Hire a sitter is the most out of touch thing, does he even know that people in two income households are quitting because one entire paycheck goes to childcare that itās a complete wash?
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u/CaptKnight Jan 03 '22
Even if they could afford to hire a sitter, itās the weekend which is personal and family time. I donāt work on weekends and itās not in my contract to. If I was asked to, Iād simply say, Iāll look at it Monday. Worst case, you get fired and collect unemployment. Best case, the boss gets off your back and work/life balance gets better. Never back down from a bully boss.
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u/PoopDiamonds72 Jan 02 '22
I've tried running a sinking ship before. If you're in middle management you need to realize you're getting a raw deal too. I moved halfway across the country and work rank and file less hours per week for comparable pay.
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u/dadbod9000 Jan 02 '22
Iāve been in warehouse management for 16 years. The first thing I convey to new hires is that Iām replaceable in this company, but I am the only dad my children have, and my priorities are with them. Iāll never ask a report to value our work more than their life outside of work. Thatās not saying thereās no consequences for poor work ethic, but I will always support finding balance.
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u/EridanusVoid idle Jan 02 '22
You need to tell him to his face what the problem is, and that he can see it if he looks in a mirror. What is he going to do? Fire you?
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u/povertymayne Jan 02 '22
He exploded cuz āMike wanted weekends offā. Weekends off is literally the bare minimum. Fucking clown
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u/GreppMichaels Jan 02 '22 edited Jan 02 '22
The fact you have these businesses would rather lose money/productivity/clients/sales instead of paying their employees a living wage, is mind boggling.
Another company that will likely go out of business just to spite its employees.
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u/saywhat1206 Jan 02 '22
As a Boomer myself, I am pissed when I see others in my generation pull this crap. Your boss is an asshole.
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u/linedashline Jan 02 '22
And this right here is an example of why democracy should be extended to the workplace. Imagine being able to vote who your manager was. That would make them much more considerate of how they treat the people that work for them, the ones they have to convince to keep voting for them.
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u/uranazo Jan 02 '22
If we had democracy we wouldn't bother having someone who doesn't work and gets paid more than everyone. We would have leads who worked alongside us instead.
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u/satanic-frijoles idle Jan 02 '22
Who says life isn't easy? It could be, but people like this boss is why it isn't.
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u/BasicallyRyanGosling Jan 02 '22
Tells someone to hire a baby sitter instead of actually hiring enough staff himself
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u/NGL_ItsGood Jan 02 '22
The scary thing is, I can't tell if this guy is an actual boomer or not, because I've heard the same kind of shit come from a 23 year old shift supervisor.
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u/Bacardiguy55 Jan 03 '22
I got yelled at for quitting a job for a better paying 1. He told me I didnāt believe in the company and I was a traitor. I responded all you had to do was pay me more.
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u/PowerToThePanels Jan 02 '22
Should have spoke up and said "your employees are not your therapist. You shouldn't be airing your grievances to us, it only makes you come across as unhinged and incompetent."
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u/KeyBanger Jan 02 '22
I was really hoping he, you know, actually exploded with his guts flying everywhere.
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u/WoLF2001 Jan 02 '22
People start to panic when they realize they may have to actually do some work themselves.
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u/madmarmalade Jan 02 '22
Ranting at people is not a good motivator. :P One time when I was working at a pizza restaurant as a busser/support, the owner came in (only came in like two or three times a month) and lined all the support up outside. It was pouring rain, so it was damp and cold under the canopy, and he starts yelling at us about smiling and being faster and cleaning things better, and how there's hundreds of people lining up to take our jobs. As a result, our longest-employed support quit that very day, and they wound up hiring a long string of quickly-shuffled teenagers, and the restaurant got dirty, chaotic, and ill-prepared for big rushes. I worked as hard as I could, but when I got left to clean up a twenty-top table all by myself while the other support chatted by the door, when I lost my temper at a customer spilling ranch all over me somehow that was the last straw. :P I didn't even lose my temper, I just kind of exclaimed, "Behind you!" as I was carrying forty pounds of dishes and cups and ramikens of ranch to the dishwasher. But that was enough.
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Reeks of a fake story lol
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Jan 02 '22
Apparently this is at FedEx and Op just recently started. Posted 16 days ago stating he just started. 11 days prior to that he said he got a promotion. A few days before that they worked at Sam's club. A month before that it was Amazon. All this person does is post about work.
This shit is so stupid. lol Their post history is alarming as hell.
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u/soyTegucigalpa Jan 02 '22
Mike and the other missing 6 employees checks should be shared among the remaining workers, thatās what the boss should be sharing with them. Also the announcement that inflation adjustments will be made for their future and some past wages.
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u/RainbowPhoenix17 Jan 02 '22
HAHAHHAHAHAHA these fucking loser bosses deserve to be out of business
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u/Diligent-Language-79 Jan 02 '22
Do these bosses ever get off their asses and work? They want to talk about everyone else not working, putting in the time. Where is all their extra time spent?! They donāt want to leave their families?! Ugh!!
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u/flynnsego Jan 02 '22
I read the title of this post and thought "either this boss was so stressed that they blew themselves up or the workforce was so tired of their shit, they blew them up. "
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Jan 02 '22
Often the flexibility is lacking with employers in my experience they huff and puff with attitude if you need time of for a medical appointment one boss said you need a haircut but didn't get I am working when barbers are open and always cut my lunch break short
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u/i-dream-of-jeannie Jan 03 '22
In the old days most people didnāt work on Sunday. It was a day to rest, spend time with the family, or maybe do something crazy like go to church. That all changed so that underpaid people had the opportunity to better themselves by working seven days a week and never seeing their families. I say end Sunday work lets have a day of rest. Are you any happier by working Sundays?
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Jan 03 '22
Tell your dumb cunt of a boss Iāve sent out over 150 applications in the past 8 months to no response better than ādue to the current economy and supply chain issues we canāt justify a hire right now.ā
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u/Limp-Freedom- Jan 02 '22
And then everybody clapped.
$100% true story
The boss' name? Albert Einstein
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u/scarywolverine Jan 02 '22
Normally I wouldnt agree, this story isnt nuts, but if you look at OPs post history he claims to work for 3 different companies
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Boomers like him thing that the world is suppose to work non-stop. You can't argue with them, you can't reason with them, they just think that they are right. People get burnt out of their job and need something new and not even remotely trying to accommodate them doesn't help either.
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u/Echo_Illustrious Jan 02 '22
Attacking the few people that did show up was childish at best. It would be great if he could read this post...
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u/Chunkycarl Jan 02 '22
Oh look another boss who canāt realise they are the problem.. what are the odds.
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u/Ocean_Man205 Jan 02 '22
This guy is so oblivious to what is happening that he's like a cartoon character that needs the kids at home to help them realize something. Hey kids, do YOU know why people are quitting the company?
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u/horror-pangolin-123 Jan 02 '22
My god, where do these people live? Are they fucking aliens that don't understand how humans need to live?
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u/Crohnies Jan 02 '22
Just hire a sitter
Meanwhile the guy's pay probably barely covers their food and living expenses.
Plus, the hourly rate of a sitter can be equal to or greater than the hourly rate of many retail jobs.
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u/fionsichord Jan 02 '22
When everyone seems to be doing the work of multiple people, you should all be paid accordingly!
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u/mikkokilla Jan 03 '22
People are finally realizing that life should not only be about work, everyone and I mean everyone is brainwashed into this way of thinking since birth
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u/OP1KenOP Jan 03 '22
Some bosses just can't seem to grasp that their employees are never going to work themselves into the ground becuase they have nowhere near as much to gain as the bossman does.
If they were prepared to work themselves into the ground.. they'd probably be his competition not his staff.
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u/UnionThug1733 Jan 03 '22
Right I was paying 850$ for five days 7to5. Itās fucking stupid. So howās a single mom suppose to work a standard income
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u/KingKaos420- Jan 03 '22
Nobody wants to actually get off their ass and WORK these days
Most people who are quitting these days are doing so because they have something better lined up. Itās not that people donāt want to work.
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u/Ibe_Lost Jan 03 '22
They (companies and bossess) dont get it. We dont want grovelling $1 million wages (well maybe). Alot of what we want is just respect and being viewed as a human with a living wage. Having been stalked by past employers to the point I have no work future ever people like this should be drummed out of the business and then only employed as box stackers to bring a bit of humility to them.
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u/obscurereference234 Jan 03 '22
I had a similar situation years ago. I work in construction, and got sent to a job with really crappy conditions and hard work. Nobody there was very happy at all, and none of them were doing much. Since I was new and hadnāt caught on yet, I tried to get as much done as I could. At the end of the day, the boss called a meeting and yelled at everyone for their lack of production, pointing me out as the only person who is doing anything. They hashed it all out and I kept my mouth shut until the meeting was over. Then I took the boss aside and quietly quit. I thought his head was going to explode.šš
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That guy who quit two hours later should have been a hero and told the boss why everyone was quitting, then quit right there lol
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u/co1ony Jan 03 '22
I remember when a boomer once told me "you need to take care of what's most important first. You take care of yourself, your loved ones, and THEN your work." Apparently it wasnt a widely held belief.
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u/MacDhomhnuill Jan 03 '22
"APPARENTLY HE HAS 'FAMILY' AND WANTS 'WORK LIFE BALANCE', WHATEVER ENTITLED ANTIFA SHIT THAT IS."
Boomers are the least self-aware and most entitled generation. Everyone else has to grovel and grind their soul into the dirt for their convenience.
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u/DJGammaRabbit Jan 03 '22
These people truly think that people would volunteer their time to do their bullshit jobs and the pay is just a bonus. The entitlement is that of a 12 year old brat.
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Something similar happened to me. Not this severe but I quit due to being overworked with unreasonable pay and was constantly being blamed for not meeting expectations for taking my weekends off. Theyāre always so shocked when people put family and life boundaries before work.
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u/stompinstinker Jan 03 '22
When are these guys going to get it through their thick skulls that these people are working, just not for them.
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u/skurtgibzahi Jan 03 '22
I love the "he didn't want to work weekends knows we are understaffed" rhetoric. Rather than compromise its to hell with em.
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u/jcquik Jan 03 '22 edited Jan 03 '22
Yeah... When 3 people leave that quickly it's not them... It's not their generation, it's something specific to the job, manager, environment.
Gotta look in the mirror there big guy.
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u/InfinityChina Jan 03 '22
Okayā¦ listen up please.. Iām working in hospitality sector, been this place for many years. Have family (young son) I need to spend more time with them. Upvote if you think I should try the pay rise many of you suggested (to compensate the time I lose). Or, downvote me if you think I should be happy I can work for this company for so long without beeing fired. š¤·āāļø The reason I bring this up is because in hospitality you see the above mentioned story (by OP) twice a month š©
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u/trextra Jan 03 '22
This was the last straw for me at one job I held. I was sitting there thinking, dude, those are rash words from someone who canāt do my job, nor replace me easily if I quit. And who has no understanding at all of how hard Iām already working. I quit a week or two later, another person in the room quit a couple months later, and he and the only other person present were both fired shortly thereafter.
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u/randomroyalty Jan 03 '22
On your deathbedā¦ āgee I wish I spent more time on the job!ā Said nobody everā¦
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u/OminousDon Jan 03 '22
Word of advice for anyone working a job: If you die today will your job pay for your funeral?
Iāll answer for you : No
Plus this boss says ,āhire a sitterā like thatās no expensive and dangerous ( my sister in law let a military spouse babysit her son and he was abused ) which shows he lacks empathy and heās making an environment where ppl donāt want to be there .
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u/PeorgieTirebiter Jan 03 '22
Letās deal with workforce issues by making people stop working to listen to you throw a fitā¦brilliant business strategy.
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is he going to pay him more so he can afford a sitter, a divorce lawyer, a therapist etc...
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u/dandy_demon18 Jan 27 '22
I thought this post was something else when I read, my boss exploded
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u/Icy-Lack-4753 Jan 28 '22
Yikes. It was like this in my last field too. And like, we worked at residential facilities so I could sympathize in that workers were in fact needed 24/7, but at the same time, it wasnāt the upper management having to pull those back to back shiftsā¦
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u/anthrolooker Jan 28 '22
Ffsā¦ itās not that hard to compensate people for their time and treat them like humans. I have a business and hire people for specific jobs as needed because of the type of business it is. I always know the going rate for the work and add several hundred to it and pay them the same day despite most in my industry doing net 30-60. I do just fine financially and people love to work for/with me. I also make accommodations for them if they are dealing with health issues or are pregnant. Itās not remotely hard to do. I find suppressing compassion for others to be much more difficult.
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u/Agreeable_Orange8096 Jan 30 '22
If no one wants to work weekends then they will have to close on weekends. Wonder if the business will survive fewer days open.
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u/Kind_Nepenth3 Jan 03 '22
That's always the most fun to do. We were a shitty discount chain store, so when we quit all at once, suddenly that was 97% of the time sheet wiped out and the bitch had to run cash register herself for once.
She broke another employee's nose in the back room because she wasn't following basic levels of safety, threatened to fire me if I didn't come back to work 4 days after my brother died and again when for some obscure reason I wasn't smiling hard enough at the customers, made fun of how small my paycheck was in front of not only myself but the other employees (I'd been out with the flu), and regularly lorded her new car, household renovations, quarterly bonuses, etc. around the workplace.
But she had to be on the floor and do grunt work all aloooone. Why are the customers so meeean and stupid? It's like she's expected to be in 5 places at once while still taking the time to be courteous and sociable, she can't get all this work done all on her own! She has been abandoned by cruel and wayward fate! :(
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u/Sea-Ad9057 Jan 02 '22
is he paying people enough to hire a sitter i wonder