r/StarWarsBattlefront • • Nov 12 '17 • This 2 Take My Energy 1 This 1 Bless Up 1 Bravo 51 Popcorn 16 Regret 16 Heartwarming 8 Mindblown 6 Take My Silver 6

The Pride And Accomplishment Thread Seriously? I paid 80$ to have Vader locked?

This is a joke. I'll be contacting EA support for a refund... I can't even playing fucking Darth Vader?!?!? Disgusting. This age of "micro-transactions" has gone WAY too far. Leave it to EA though to stretch the boundaries.

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u/BradleyAllan23 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming Bravo

Don't buy the game. Make posts about it, keep causing a fuss, do not give them 80 dollars until something fucking changes. The loot crate system and locked heroes are by far their dumbest decisions and its a shame because the game is solid.

Its just kind of like the xbox one launch, too much bad publicity will kill them.

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u/MBMMaverick Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I'm in the process of waiting for a "support chat" to get my money back. I pre-ordered it and they already charged me.

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u/BradleyAllan23 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

You should be fine since its before release, they should refund it. And mention to support why you want a refund as well, politely and to the point of course (some people just rant at the support lol)

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u/MBMMaverick Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Of course. I'll post back what happens here.

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u/phantom2052 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I'll buy the "Game of the Year" edition for $20 in 6 months and never buy a create

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u/Colt_Navy Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

It will be a catastrophe to surpass Mass Effect: Andromeda

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u/tmotytmoty Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I pledge to not order it until they fix it.
Also, let me get upnhere on my soapbox: all ya’ll that did preorder, stop preordering if you want better games.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

To be totally honest, I was fine with the grind and micro transactions for the regular troopers, I only play HvV. But the final straw was having about every single hero I want to play be locked. I already canceled my preorder a few days ago, and I've decided I won't buy the full game.

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u/MBMMaverick Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

If they make changes for the better I’ll buy it again.. but for now this is completely unacceptable and downright greedy.

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u/Jdss345 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Are games releasing at 80$ now or are people buying the deluxe edition?

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u/MBMMaverick Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

In Canada it’s $80 CAD.

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u/Potatoslayer2 Potatoslayer0 Nov 12 '17 edited Nov 14 '17 • Heartwarming

EA Response

EDIT: Thread has been locked. Harassing and spamming others to any degree, is not okay.

EDIT 2: To further elaborate on why this thread has been locked. The amount of spam, vulgar comments, and harassment going around is more than the Moderation Team - a volunteer team of 10 people - can handle. If I were to unlock it, the majority of the comments would simply be "Fuck you Ea" "Fuck this" and many other creative variants which we have seen.

Feel free to downvote or upvote any comment that you please, but the thread is staying locked.

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u/MBMMaverick Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I think EA just broke the record for most downvoted post ever, passing “Popcorn tastes good”.

EA has officially hit rock bottom.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Damn that's a lot of downvotes.

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u/Dancing_Cthulhu Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

So they looked at Lego Star Wars and that's the feature they decided to take? "Fans love collecting studs to unlock characters".

Ah, who am I kidding. They looked at their business model and figured out a way to squeeze consumers a little more.

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u/i-lie-to-you Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

EA community team, that kind of seems like a oxymoron

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u/NicholasHernane Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I think that's the only record EA's breaking...

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

most downvoted comment in reddit history by a landslide right now

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u/DisRuptive1 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

For those of us from /r/all, what's going on?

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Glad there’s a link, cause someone would have to scroll wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy down to see a comment this low.

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u/ZodiacTedCruZ Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

-9000 now. “Popcorn tastes good” here we come!

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u/Valkanith A sense of pride and accomplishment Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Hmm I wonder, this is off topic but I wonder if this is the most downvoted post in Reddit’s history.

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u/Bandsohard Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

And the award for most downvoted comment in Reddit history goes to...

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Jesus Christ 37,000 downvotes that's priceless

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u/Woofers_MacBarkFloof Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

The worst part is they won't change a thing either. Because it's EA.

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u/natedoggcata Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

about 4000 more downvotes and it becomes the highest downvoted comment in reddit history.

GG EA

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u/N-K_N3CR0S1S Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Now at ~26k downvotes. That, I think, is officially the most downvoted comment on reddit.

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u/VoXXXRebel Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming Bravo Mindblown

I hope you get voted worst company for a third time EA

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u/Mynameisinuse Nov 12 '17 • Bravo Popcorn Heartwarming

Not buying your game seems like a sense of pride and accomplishment.

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u/Bouttagetshwifty Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Time to break out the ps2 and enjoy the real battlefront 2

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u/MrBeefLT Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

4 weapons each class? How do you think they will add new weapons in game? let me guess, SPECIAL LOOTBOXES 10$ lootbox with 0.02% chance to get new weapon, not craftable or obtainable in any other way. GLHF

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u/Soaptimusprime Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

“Can’t divide a community if there is no community”

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u/feluto -690k points Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

The ultimate supreme limited special editions still requires you to grind LOL

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u/RagingPenguin4 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming Bravo

Came here for downvotes, stayed for the wonderful comment section.

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u/inbl Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I see this is tagged with Developer response...can someone link me to the comment a Dev/EA rep made?

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u/Dreadweave Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Still can’t see the pos. Can someone link directly tot comment?

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u/FingFrenchy Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Treating a full priced AAA game like some shitty "free" mobile pay to play game is some bullshit of the highest order.

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u/ScumbagJoey Rebel Shitbags Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I’m getting the game for free due to my job and I still want a refund

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u/KoolAidMan7980 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming Bravo

Most downvoted comment ever....We did it, Reddit!!!

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u/Geese-Howard Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming Mindblown

lol imagine if in the new Dragon Ball Z game Goku was locked from the start and you had to play 40 hours to unlock him, how ridiculous would that be? Or if you buy NBA 2K but you can't use the Golden State Warriors without grinding for them

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u/gRizzletheMagi Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Sonic, but you have to beat the game on every difficulty as Amy to unlock him.

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u/Treholt Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

or playing mario kart, but mario is locked until you win all cups.

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u/grndmrshlgando0921 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

that's what these companies do. they take the objectively most popular characters and lock them behind pay walls and shit like this. look at goro from MKX

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u/HexaBlast Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Ironically tho, there was a rumour about Fighter Z that said that OG Goku was going to be DLC.

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u/Kreiger81 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Forgive my ignorance, but isn't grinding to unlock characters pretty standard for games nowadays?

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u/evilrastan Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming Popcorn

PR person must be sweating by now.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I dont mind stuff being locked and I dont mind having to grind for them, but I do mind that EA has advertised this as a game with playable heroes without any kind of provision.

Would you accept buying a car with a stereo, that when delivered to you, turns out to have no key? You have everything you ordered, but you can't access it.

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u/kl0wny Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Didnt their community manager just call all of us armchair devs on twitter. Found it EA's community manager calls concerned Battlefront fans for "Arm Chair Developers"

https://twitter.com/sledgehammer70/status/929755127396708352. That's what they think of us.
Here's the archive since he removed it http://archive.is/DenaU

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u/-INeedANewUsername- Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

This is why you don't preorder stuff, for the record. Especially from the worst company in gaming.

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u/theivoryserf Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

So after two consecutive shaftings, people will learn for BF3, right? Right?

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u/iliev77 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I agree, but I think EA and Activision are on the same level.

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u/metalhead408 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

If we pay 100% for the game. We should get 100% of the content.

I wonder if you have a sense of pride and accomplishment for conjuring up that bullshit of an excuse.

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u/epicbux Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

remember when you played a game for the sake of enjoying the game itself, not in order to grind for 40 hours to unlock a character?

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u/warf3re Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

im confused? heros are locked?

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u/dangent98 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Luke, Leia, Chewie, Iden Versio, Palpatine and Vader are locked, you purchase them with the in game currency. luke/vader 60k, Leia/Chewie/Palp 40k and Iden 20k

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

It wouldn’t even be a problem if you could unlock him in a reasonable amount of time without having to buy loot creates.

But up to 40 hours? For nearly everyone’s favorite SW villain? What were they thinking?

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u/bbbbaaaatttt Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 14 '17 • Heartwarming

If you have a young family, you might get an hour or two of gaming time every few nights.

40hrs might mean no Vader for a month or so for a lot of players.


Edit: I checked my time in CS:GO. I've played a few rounds of casual each week on and off for years, and I'm nearly at 70 hrs total.

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u/CatfreshWilly Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

So wait, locked heroes? I hadn't heard antrying about this. How do you unlock them?

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Credits you earn by playing matches. Darth Vader takes about 30-40 hours to unlock...

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u/EckimusPrime Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

This realization is what finally made me give the game a hard pass. I was set to get it and deal with the progression grind but locking heroes is such a cheap shot. I appreciate the testing other people have done to show how much time people need to sink in order to unlock things in this game.

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u/Soy7ent Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Vote with your wallet and don't buy this game. Simple as that.

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u/MrGhost370 Mobius_1 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Don't want to buy loot boxes? Get ready to grind for hours every time you obtain something."

This right here is why the people who say 'well just don't buy the microtransactions then but still buy the game' about lootbox games are wrong. If you still buy this game but not a single lootbox it tells EA that you are willing to put up with the arbitrary grind they implemented in a 60 dollar game.

That means that for EA putting in the lootboxes is a no risk, pure win situation, as they are not losing the part of their customer base that aren't whales and dolphins (those people accepted the shitty grind) AND get to farm all the whales and dolphins. They get to have their greed cake and eat it too, and they get to ruin game design in the process without any consequences.

The only way to stop this shit is if the gaming community rejects these games completely, until the whales and dolphins have no one to play with anymore.

Until lootboxes start to carry a real risk of backfiring for these publishers they will only become more and more common. For now it's 'just' EA, Ubisoft, WB, Take 2, and Activision but what do you think is going to happen to that (in your experience) more 'benign' publisher that releases those games you love so much? If they see that this carries no risk and no consequence they will follow too.

Either gamers do something now or within 3-4 years from now the entire game industry is the same as the mobile and browser game one.

And if you think your refusal to support this shit is futile then I have a few things to say:

1: Why do you vote? why do you pay taxes? why do you recycle? It's all a drop of water on a hot plate after all, right?

2 : By rejecting the lootbox industry you are creating a separate gaming niche for traditionally monetized games (normal priced game, no bullshit) and as long as that niche exists there will be developers and publishers who choose to tap that instead of trying to compete with publishers like EA. But if you just fall in line and buy these lootbox games instead that niche will not be viable

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u/lLikeCats Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I'll have a good sense of accomplishments if you remove the microtransactions.

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u/clay4pay Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

OP, how does it feel to get the reply that has became the most down voted comment in reddit history?

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u/NormieLyncher Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming Regret

Well my opinion on EA is that... . . . . .

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I just refuse to buy EA games. Period. Fuck them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Just stopped by to downvote EA’s bullshit. Been over a decade since I bought any of your trash. Thanks for making it easy!

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I was gonna upvote every comment, but I don’t think I’ll live long enough

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u/Hadrosaur_Hero Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Even if the gameplay is fun, sometimes you have to make sacrifices.

I plan on skipping this game until they fix these horrible systems designed to make players want to pay for content in an already expensive game.

Lootboxes for cosmetics? I can deal with it. I'd prefer a shop or something and bypass the RNG crap altogether, but having the current system brings the whole game down.

I didn't buy Shadow of War, and I didn't buy this game, and I advise everyone else to do so as well to show EA and Dice we won't accept this.

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u/stevenvw Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Good to see EA being EA. If nothing else at least we know that they will be consistent with one thing.

P.S. RIP Respawn Entertainment

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u/only_in_china Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

And this is exactly why piracy is a thing...

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u/PM_ME_UR_GIRL_BUTT_ Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Where's the dev response?

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u/Kinkonthebrain Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 15 '17 • Heartwarming

43000 downvotes -- as of my original reply -- at $60 per = $2,580,000 in lost revenue.

(Note, actually $2,580,060 cause you won't get my money either. My sense of pride and accomplishment will have come from NOT preordering.)

Well played, EA!

Updates below as EA continues its Reddit-historic, blatantly obvious money-grab, middle finger to the gaming community.

Gilded?!!? Great thx!! kowtows


Edit 1: Now 77,348 downvotes. At $60 lost per downvote, that equates to a revenue loss of $4,640,880.

Edit 2: Now at 108,932 downvotes. At $60 lost per downvote, that equates to a revenue loss of $6,535,920.

Edit 3: Now at 131,516 downvotes. At $60 lost per downvote, that equates to a revenue loss of $7,890,960.

Edit 4: Now at 160,265 downvotes. At $60 lost per downvote, that equates to a revenue loss of $9,615,900.

Edit 5: Now at 206,641 downvotes. At $60 lost per downvote, that equates to a revenue loss of $12,348,460.

Edit 6: Now at 280,233 downvotes. At $60 lost per downvote, that equates to a revenue loss of $16,813,980.

Edit 7: Now at 345,415 downvotes. At $60 lost per downvote, that equates to a revenue loss of $20,724,900.

Edit 8: Now at 680,844 downvotes. At $60 lost per downvote, that equates to a revenue loss of $40,850,640.

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u/HitmanKiller12 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

It's not even so much that he is locked, it is that he would take 60 hours to unlock.

I'm all for having to unlock iconic characters and have a progression system, but when the $80 game has been designed to encourage additional in game purchases in order to feasibly unlock your favourite stuff, that's just not okay.

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u/quantumjello Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

This is the company that's making Anthem, people saying it's gonna be the destiny killer LMFAO

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u/just-to-downvote-EA Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Anyone else make an account just to do this?

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u/WolfgangWobz Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

You dumb motherfuckers keep giving them money, what did you expect?

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u/natedoggcata Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

The damage controlling shills are out in full force. Disgusting

I dont understand how any sane person who isnt working for the company could be fine with what EA is doing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Boycott EA Games, we don’t want your bull shit EA fuck off

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u/slumvillain Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Gaming these days just aggravates the fuck out of me. It's no longer put the disc in and play. Always updates to download and wait times. Online communities are toxic. Being poor basically means scoring a badass game 2 years after it came out. And if you're lucky to get a game when it comes out, you're fucked and if your like me, buying stuff INSIDE a game with REAL money is fuckin retarded when the other option is to feed yourself or ya know..not spend money on fuckin pixels in a game. It sucks to feel that you can't be on par with other ppl playing the game because you can't afford to. Every in game purchase ive ever made, i never feel good about, one day ill stop playing that game or whatever. And the base price for these games are already fuckin ridiculous on top of them being ALWAYS non completed. They sell you completed games in the form of DLC...i really hate the state of gaming these days. I have ps plus but dont really get online anymore. I hate seeing all the locked levels and weapons I cant have and cant justify spending real money on. Maybe im not a gamer. The real fact is im just too fuckin poor to take part in a "full experience" of any game these days.

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u/sighs__unzips Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I hate EA. About 30 years ago when I was still playing Nintendo cartridges, I called them about a technical question. First guy laughed and me and hung up. Second guy put me on indefinite hold. I've never bought another EA cartridge or game since then.

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u/BattleChimp Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Someone livestream the downvote train

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

The problem is we support this kind of stuff by buying the game. They don’t care because it works and it makes them money. Our complaints and voices don’t really get heard, the most powerful thing we have is our money. If we take that away from them, it stops. That’s it.

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u/taloft Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Battlefront 1 sold 20 million copies. Good luck getting everyone on board.

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u/ARHOOO1 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Them downvotes, surely they can see thousands of people disagree with their idea. Basically killed a player base before the game is released. RIP

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u/bigdaddyunrau Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Yup; down voted for your bullshit. Thanks EA.

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u/BruceLeePlusOne Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

40 hours of my time, at the discounted 'I'm having fun', hourly rate of $10's an hour comes out to $400's. You are asking me to pay you $60+'s so I can add $400 worth of added-value to your online game? For only one character?

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u/DrollRemarks Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

At this point - record breaking downvotes - what more feedback could you possibly need, EA?

Progression in BF 2015 was a grind, but it was rewarding.

You have completely ruined that formula in this game and introduced the most annoying and egregious lootbox based progression system I’ve ever seen in a AAA game. I️’ve played most of the 10 hour EA Access trial - without spending any credits on lootboxes - and I️ have one class that isn’t level zero. It’s level 1. This is BROKEN and frustrating. The game is beautiful and fun to play, but with this progression system the pretty graphics are just earrings on a pig.

Ditch this lootbox system, and ditch the $120 “complete” editions. Try the Ubisoft model. People would pay $100 bucks for the gold edition of SWBF 2, I️ guarantee it. But $100 isn’t enough for you. Your unrestrained greed is there for all to see, and customers have finally had enough.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Sort by controversial...

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u/THEICEMAN998 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

EA has just become a pathetic cash grabbing meme

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u/SaggyBackSack Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I'm out of loop here, what do you mean He's locked?

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u/Shadow_Riptor Droid Marine Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

You have to pay 60k credits to be allowed to play as him in the game

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u/yoshi570 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

How is this new? In ANY WAY? EA is the scum of editors. Stay the fuck away from them.

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u/OnlinePosterPerson Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

This is why you don’t preorder games

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u/Thot_Crusher Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

"I keep giving EA my money and they keep fucking me in the ass with no lube! How does this keep happening to me!? HELP"

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u/kylir Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Probably going to be buried, but this is the kind of bullshit that turns me away from a game. I was so hyped for Battlefront 2 and loved the beta, but I am not paying $60+ for a STAR WARS game and not even get Darth Vader or Luke Skywalker. Fuck off EA.

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u/Invicturion Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I was downvoted to shit in another thread for stating that this was P2W and that EA is a shitty company... And not 3-4 days later, the shit hits the reality fan... Fact is, EA deserves their place as the worst fucking company in the busines...

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u/Christoph3r Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

It's finally become OK to be anti-pay to win cheat.

But, why call it pay to win anyway, that's a shitty euphemism that gives legitimacy to the model - I can't even think of it as "winning" if you paid instead of played.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I fucking hate when people say "you don't need to buy the micro transactions, so why does it bother you?" It bothers me because it's a way for programmers to lazily make games on the base level and offer the full game at end game content basically. They aren't offering better guns or just cool costumes for characters. They are completely locking death Vader behind a certain amount of playing time. Unless you want to spend money on the game.

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u/Hello_Hurricane Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Can't believe I actually did but just cancelled my pre order as well. Hopefully protesting with our wallets will make some impact

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

If the intent truly is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking heroes then don’t allow the unlock via a micro transaction!!!!

You guys truly are a disgrace, the sad thing is your not held accountable and therefore get worse every year.

EA = Disgrace!

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u/Christoph3r Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

It's really upsetting to have to play with people who Paid To Cheat when you just wanna be legit.

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u/RaeSloane Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Thank GOD I've been broke for months and haven't decided to exchange the last of my cash for a game based on my all-time favorite movie-series in the hopes that it can help me forget about my depression for a little while... But I honestly this breaks my heart still. I had so much hope... after everything even...

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u/Cloustyberries Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Not to sound stupid here but can I still cancel my pre-order that I got on Origin? If so, how do I go about doing that?

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Do it.

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u/ChanceIIorDan Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Its time for us to stop buying $80 games that use the "free to play" system and milking people dry. Just don't buy bullshit like this and see what the devs do

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u/JankMyChain Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Pre order cancelled.

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u/Its_Time_To_Stop_Now Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

In 2005: wow this new battlefront game has so many heros and i can play as all of them! 2017: oh man i gotta grind to unlock DARTH FUCKING VADER.

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u/fdafdafds Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Skate 4

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u/timo103 Wampa Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

The fuck did you people expect?

Can always go play the real battlefront 2 that doesn't fuck you over.

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u/CeilingFanJitters Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

-52,000 and sinking. Jesus Christ.

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u/ForMe Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

EA,
 

Please look at the design implementation of Rainbow Six: Siege. Their game grows its playerbase with each major patch (new content patches). While it is a Competitive shooter, the same methodology can be applied to your game. Instead of competitive seasons, have it based on era, or planet, or system, etc....

 

They have a season pass where you can BUY all content being produced post-launch for a fee, for that season... in-game things can be bought for free after grind... but players that don't want to wait can purchase with real money up-front.

 

Currently there is no way for me to go AROUND these pay walls. If I want to enjoy the first year of additional content, I couldn't buy a pass to get access, I leave it to chance in your loot box system. You haven't provided paying customers access to new content which is actually the source of your problem.

 

With Siege, I know I can pay an additional $30.00 a year, and get all it's main content (outside of additional cosmetics) upfront. Look at Ubisoft's financial numbers this year. They've made more from sale of Post-Launch COSMETIC items in their games (mainly Siege, I'm sure) than their entire product line-up of PHYSICAL games.

 

Thanks,

  Concerned Player

 

TL:DR

Use Siege Model.....I think the non-paying system needs adjusted, but you have to speak from the perspective of potential buyers (like myself). I won't spend additional money on gambling. Let people pay for content that year up front, let the rest be a grind without locking maps behind it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

HE JUST WANTS TO PLAY AS DARTH VADER 😭😭😭

STOP IT EA !

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u/DStrom94 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Glad im seeing this now. I was gonna RUSH to Gamestop to buy this game when I get paid next, but after seeing all this nonsense i've changed my mind. I already got burned by Battlefront 1, really didn't expect to have it happen again with the second installment.

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u/StoybenXi Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

YES, I want to grind my balls into smithereens EA! My taint is yours, my money will stay....right where it belongs; in my wallet you cheap pieces of shit.

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u/luisroot Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Not buying this shit. I can already only endure BF1 crates.

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u/Particle_Man_Prime Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

This is what you fucking people get for buying this game and supporting EA after everything that happened. Fuck you people for complaining when EA did exactly what they said they would do.

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u/theHawkmooner Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

-50000 fucking karma. Holy shit

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u/KKillroyV2 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

If there is one thing that could unite Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump right now, It would be hatred for EA's Battlefront 2 policy.

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u/ScripYo Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Too bad that Vader currently leaves a little bit to be desired. He is arguably the worst lightsaber villain.

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u/alcatrazcgp Armchair Developer Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

actually vader is rather OP. You gain health by killing.

But a 2k wookie is even more OP since i can kill 4 heroes with him and 2 tanks.

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u/jacenat Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I'll be contacting EA support for a refund...

Good luck.

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u/Carnifekt Armchair Developer Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Origin is not too shabby when it comes to customer service, unlike steam where all you can expect is an automated message giving you the finger.

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u/DeathHawkGnar Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

This is what happens when people keep buying EA's games. People can flip out all they want, but EA got their money, so they dont care. I understand wanting these games, especially when they have a lockdown on beloved IP such as the NFL and star wars, but we need to start sending them a message they can understand. The only way this shit will stop is if we stop rewarding their behavior with our purchase. I've been done buying their games for a while now and it makes me feel much better after these games come out and I hear about this shit and I get to feel good that I didn't get fooled.

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u/Audiophile33 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

You know what the worst part of this is? EA knows that virtually nobody in their community supports this decision, but they’re not going to change it because BF2 will make a profit regardless. Refunding this bullshit.

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u/holdmyown83 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Come on over to the Nintendo side.

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u/just_to_annoy_you Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

When will you people understand that EA don't fucking care. They don't care if all 100,000 redditors cancel. They don't care if your friends and family listen to you, and don't buy it. There are MILLIONS who don't give a fuck about these practices, and will shell out their $80 because it says Star Wars on it. These are who EA is selling to. Not you.

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u/Hi_Im_A_Redditor Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Lol. I got burned on EA Dice's Battlefront 1. Not today my friend EA. Not today. Fuck you EA :)

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u/DrunkWilber Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

EA should pay me for the 40 hours it takes to unlock the character.

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u/MrGhost370 Mobius_1 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Honestly at this point I'd rather pay $30 for SWBF 2015 ultimate edition rather than deal with all this current microtransactions/lootbox/pay to win/progress/grinding bullshit. At least for that price, everything is unlocked from the get go and I am getting the full game.

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u/fritzcoldcockin13 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I cant wait for angry joe to take a steaming shit on this game and EA

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u/LegendaryShepard LegendarySoap Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

AngryJoe will do what he always does and attach himself to whatever major controversy is happening in gaming and act as a mouthpiece for whatever the most popular opinion is while adding nothing meaningful to the conversation. He and YongYea must be licking their lips right now looking at all the reddit posts they can read out and get views off of

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u/Enjoy_it Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

He's wrong on so many things though. He completely missed the point that you unlock weapons through challenges in his first video on this game. He just over inflates that personality and sounds like an uninformed blogger.

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u/Alanosbornftw Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Your first mistake was paying $80. Better to redbox or get on black friday or holiday sale

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u/Jeremiahtheebullfrog Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Haha, fool me once shame on you. Never buying another ea game after battlefront, spent $120. Shit game.

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u/Nolat Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I hope this game crashes and burns.

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u/entiretysa Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Hmm. Remember money talks. Don't buy/ask for your money back.

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u/hankypanky87 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Finally called out, hopefully all developers take note

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Just heard from a close friend who works at EA and she says she just got called into the office with a dozen other managers. Looks like the first patch will be out before the game is officially released. Hope you've learned a valuable lesson, EA!

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u/debrutsideno Nov 12 '17 edited Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Wasn’t planning on getting the game anyway. I just feel bad for the people that worked hard on this game only to have the higher-ups making poor choices. With visceral closing I feel like any positivity towards a Star Wars game is lost.

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u/DisRuptive1 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

TFW you boycotted EA back in March 2013.

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u/Snok Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

shit like this is why I refused to even play the beta. Didn't want to like this game enough to talk myself into buying when I knew I would feel shitty supporting EA's bullshit....and now they bought Respawn, who was a shining example of releasing full featured games with no nickle and diming. I will truly be shocked if Respawn doesn't get slowly eaten by the corporate EA meat grinder.

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u/NoobyDog Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I play a lot of free mobile games, content/progress/ locked behind stupid amount of grind is somehow understandable because mt is simply for whales, where most f2p will leave if the game is too boring.

 

Now, with this amount of content and progresson locked by mt, I say just dont buy this game!

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u/Burningheart1978 Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Shouldn’t have pre-ordered then, should you?

Live n’ learn.

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u/ironyofitall Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Aww, come on. It's not THAT bad. Besides, it's Star Wars and you can buy $100 worth of crystals and surely get him much earlier!

/s

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I forgot about this game along time ago, same with BF1... sad that I was right but i'm happy I didnt partake in it.

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u/josiff Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

i thought darth vader is available on certain maps?

is he always locked?

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u/Hardyfan1006 ArmChair Developer Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Until you buy him you can't use him in anything besides arcade

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u/XThatOneTitanx Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

If you could at least earn credits at the rate you could in the first battlefront, this would be much less of a problem IMO. If I score 15k+ points in a round, I should get much more than 300 credits.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Ain't getting my money this time EA. The Star Wars Whales will sustain you for sure, they're not gonna turn down the option to play the game, but I'm sure even some of them aren't gonna go for this nonsense.

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u/Evolixe Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I miss the times when FPS games didn't have a progression system at all and it was just about the game. MMO's are where progression systems belong, and only there.

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u/Sumojoe118 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Now everyone tweet at ea saying congratulations on getting the most downvotes ever

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u/SkofnungWielder97 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Wait..... you have to UNLOCK THE HEROES? Am I missing something here? What's going on?

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

It's EA. Anyone who is surprised after giving them their money doesn't deserve a refund.

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u/skop159 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Just don't buy the game. It's a pretty simple answer.

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u/RiskBiscuit Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

So can y'all not buy the game? I understand the frustration, why not just save your money?

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u/NothingWasTheGrain Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

So for Heroes vs Villains does this mean you have to unlock the heroes to get a chance to select them to play as in this gamemode? If so, that sucks.

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u/Royalarcher3 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

It’s called electronic art for a reason. The art of fucking with their customers

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u/mccarseat Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Count me as one of the many it seems that cancelled my preorder. No thanks.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Fucking hell if this game was f2p then I understand, but what the fuck is this shit?

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u/Gate_of_Divine Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Good job shitting the bed as usual EA. Can't wait till you are out of the game industry. You suck the life out of any studio you touch.

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u/creamboydreamboy Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Fuck EA. They’re really harshing my vibe

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u/UPVOTEifyoulikeboobs Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

You paid for this? Haha oh wow.

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u/aufdie87 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Give your customers a game they deserve, and make it fun for God's sake. Like, fucking forget about DLC and just make a game of passion and fun at its core. Not figuring out how much money you can make from it. I start believing that games like these aren't made with heart anymore.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 edited Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I don't buy games so that I have to grind to get things I enjoy. That's why I don't own Destiny 2, I have better things to do with what little time I have to play games.

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u/VextrenGaming Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Refunds cost $85 dollars sir.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

lmao just think about this: You could say just about anything in this comment section and not be the most downvoted thing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

This shit right here is why I don't buy EA games anymore. EA has been doing this for years. To hell with your malicious price gouging.

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u/notfin Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Well this game is probably going to fail.

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u/whitey_one Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I was looking forward to this but i just cancelled my order. The message won't be heard if we don't stick together.

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u/YataBLS Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

My intent is to avoid providing you with my hard earned money.

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u/Iplaykrew Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Same as in cod with black market supply drops n shit

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u/phazon6 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Wait so are all the hero’s locked? Well I️ was going to get this to play on my new 4K tv. Not if I️ have to grind to use any of the fucking hero’s. I️ have enough other games to play while I️ wait for it to drop to $10 on a steam sale. Great job EA. RIP Titanfall.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I think itd be kinda cool if the heroes were unlocked in the same way as Rainbow 6 where you get your points and choose a hero at a reasonable amount.

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u/Christoph3r Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

What? It's stupid that you even can pay $80 for a mass market game, WTF?

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u/lilgeoffy Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I mean, you either support this model or you don’t. I for one, haven’t purchased an EA game since they monopolized the NFL license (not that I would be playing an nfl game now at all given the state of that anyway). Battlefront is no different. I refuse to let EA ruin Star Wars for me. I will be passing on BF2 same as I passed on BF1 2 years ago. I’m really just sad over how loot crates are ruining games long term. I’d rather pay $100 for a quality game and not have this rng loot crate bs, cause let’s be honest-games have been $60 since N64 era and haven’t gone up at all but dev costs are much higher for AAA games now.

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u/holdmydrpepper Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Really though what did you expect?

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u/JustsomeBRITISHdude Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I see "Developer Response" in the title.

Is there an way to find out which post is from the dev?

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u/ManMoth_ Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

Try searching by controversial

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u/mrslipple Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I want to play this game. I really do. I was in the open beta but I just have to vote with my pocket book.

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u/chazzbass Nov 12 '17 • Heartwarming

I stopped buying ea games a few years ago, it's too bad they are so fucking greedy.

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u/Truffle_Shuffle_85 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

You all allow this to happen by purchasing a game for $80 that doesn't even give you the full game. Don't buy their games and put up with this crap, plain and simple.

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u/philbertagain Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

Add me to the no buy list... will also actively talk people out of it given the chance.

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u/smokey9886 Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

I wonder if they will start an alternative account. Their precious karma has been torpedoed.

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u/Cpt_Giggles Nov 13 '17 • Heartwarming

But yo, where are the rolling cunts?