https://x.com/coffindafferfbi/status/1855592043851989427?s=46&t=HejphlT9brwhMh54IPnO1w

I had some free time today, and decided to make a sign and take a day trip to Carroll County Courthouse.

Once I arrived I set out to find a group of other signs. It was pretty quiet. I saw Greeno first, just chilling on a bench. The sign is striking up convos. He asks me a few questions and we have a polite chat.

I walk towards the North side of the Courthouse and notice several news stations set up. Finally, another sign holder in the distance. I meet a lovely local that is there for the same reason that I am and he has a sign to prove it, “ Disbar Judge Gull”. We spend several hours in the bright midday sun swapping stories and Delphi details. A medley of locals stroll past, some stop to chat.

A little after 5pm, a group of about 8 police officers came across the lawn and directed onlookers to move east 1 block. This happened just before the jury came out on the west side.

Overall, met some really great people. I got some horn honks by passing drivers with thumbs up, and some with thumbs down.

A couple of pics from my adventure in Delphi today. I did not pass up the opportunity to ask Mr. Holeman if he would take a picture with me and my sign. He obliged and even took one of his own! 🤣

Andrea Burkhart thank you for spreading the word and covering this important trial!

Richard Allen Is Innocent!

Holeman Is Lying!

Ok folks. I have seen enough to cement my belief that the state is fully setting up RA as a patsy to cover up either the incompetence/corruption of LEO.

I believe that as a good citizen of CC and Indiana, I have a moral duty to protest this illegal behavior by the state. I will be at the courthouse Friday afternoon from 1-5 to protest on the north lawn, as that seems to be where the TV crews are setup.

I don't mind going alone, but would certainly welcome like-minded citizens to join me.

Thanks!

I've banned more folks in the last two days than the last two years. If you are a pro guilty troll I will be removing your comments and banning you here. Having a job means it might take a bit to get it done but I will make time don't worry.

If you are a rational pro State poster that's fine but if you don't want to get banned id suggest taking a break from here for a few days bc I have a hair trigger right now.

This trial may be over but the case isn't. We will keep arguing for RAs innocence. And pointing out the dozens of flaws in this case. It doesn't end here. I'm not leaving a fellow veteran behind until I see real proof he is guilty.

Til then we carry on.

Girls i hope you know how many people think about you both every single day. Some of us all day most days. You are dearly missed by people from all over the world. We're putting in the good fight though. And we won't stop. Justice is coming if it kills us. We all love you both and wish you were still here with us. 🩵🌹💜

[credits to Twitter user LawNerdAmber, they posted this photo]

Anyone else find that the ones who are pro-guilty are way more hostile and aggressive compared to those that feel there was an injustice done and an innocent man was convicted? I’ve been cussed at, called names, degraded and so forth just because I feel he is innocent.

I guess I’m sort of just ranting, because watching this all has been so deeply troubling. I am a mental health provider, and watching another mentally ill man get tortured into confessing and railroaded to prison has sucked, but watching people cheer it on has also really sucked,

If I understand, a franks motion is to say “the information in this PCA is factually wrong. He shouldn’t have been arrested on this, let him go.” .

And now the trial has begun and it really seems that there was never any real evidence at all. Not even the bullet. These lawyers tried four times to show that the facts used to arrest him were…. Like just literal lies. Not misconstruction, just straight up fake witness statements or firing and ejecting bullets until they match the unfired round. Why wasn’t there a Frank’s hearing? It is so clear now why the defense filed four times for the hearing. How else did he get held for years in prison on this evidence?

Someone in another sub joked Richard Allen is the “feces feaster” and I really fail to see how any of this is so funny. This man was a vulnerable working class guy struggling with mental illness. He came forward to help, and they tortured him into confessing.

Do people not understand what it takes to get to that point that you are eating feces? Do they not understand how desperate that man is? Can they not imagine his situation?

He has no money, he can’t even help support his family with his crappy CVS job anymore. The world says he is a murderer, he has no public defender, how is his family going to pay for this? They are already broke, lower middle class people. How could he be so stupid to talk to the cops, this is his fault. Shouldn’t he just plea, so his family can move on with life without him? Wouldn’t it be better if he was just gone anyway?

That is how many mentally ill people respond when they feel hopeless. They try to control what they can, and lash out against people they love to create distance. Often they want to “stop existing” so their family can move on without them. These are very common ways mental illnesses of all kinds is expressed.

Before this, he was already “fragile”as his attorney says. At the point he receives discovery in solitary confinement, he has been alone with these thoughts for months. Discovery consists of dozens and dozens of pictures of two dead young girls and pages about how they think he killed them. The only thing he can do in this very small, isolated room is go over and over and over the discovery. He was already barely holding it together before he was in prison.

Do people not understand that to get to the level of EATING paper covered in human waste, you have to be going absolutely insane? You have to be in such deep psychosis that you do not have the basic human instinct to be disgusted by feces. Of course he confessed during those episodes. He was going crazy in a tiny cell filled with nothing to look at except files and files of murder documents. Of course that is going to affect the delusions and hallucinations he has.

Richard Allen is just one more example of police exploiting someone’s mental illness to put them in prison. And it sucks to watch the public gleefully cheer it on.

when i think of rick, my first thoughts are innocent but i also think of how short he is. this feature is something someone definitely would’ve 100% noticed, remembered, and reported if they had seen RA on the trails that day. this picture alone serves enough as an example as to why anyone who would’ve seen him would’ve described him as “short”.

I deeply apologize, I know this isn't a fan club or anything like one, but I didn’t know how to get this directly to Jeff. Grabbed this off an intro to a live during deliberations today. How beautiful is our girl looking here? Mods, please delete if not allowed. Thanks much & thanks for modding this special community!

Currently, there is a case where a man was days from execution for the crime of killing his baby daughter by shaken baby syndrome. His execution was stayed because of how the "science" of SBS is being debunked and the many other many other diagnoses her symptoms were in line with. There is at least one juror from the original trial who testified that had s/he known how flimsy the science is for SBS, s/he would have voted him innocent.

Gull is putting these jurors in the exact same position by withholding integral parts of the defense of Richard Allen. Gull is not judging this case...she is prosecuting. She is a danger to the judicial system.

The "pro-RA is guilty" element is out in full force; downvoting every logical and fact-based piece of evidence and comment that supports Richard Allen's innocence. I've noticed it a lot on this sub over the past week. Once again, Doug Carter's words and tactics are being used against Richard Allen: facts are being "hidden in plain sight." Downvoting moves the comments and the threads further down the line. Which makes it extremely challenging for those new to this case, as well as for those who are undecided (especially after the trial) to find fact-based and logical evidence and points of view. Keep commenting, up-vote as much as you can to counteract the RA is guilty crowd.

I was open to my mind being changed. I believe more than ever he is innocent. I cannot believe what I just witnessed. I want to FOIA ISP and CC but right now, I feel like Richard Allen needs to know how many of us support him. If you want to write RA and do so, post here so we can get an idea of how many of us are sending him mail.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Seeking_Justice/comments/1gq1ecc/message_to_rick_allen/ Evidently this is a way to send Richard Allen a message. I have not got a confirmation on address yet, however he can get books. As he is a Christian I thought about some Tozer, Piper, LOTR and maybe some CS Lewis.

Hopefully within a week, everyone in the jail will know just how many people believe Richard Allen is innocent.

Mullin said he interviewed Brad Webber about the white van and said Brad had no idea what the interview was about ahead of time. Mullin said during the call Brad had told him he reviewed his messages from February 2017 and confirmed he was driving his van that day.

Baldwin gets up and asks Mullin, “How would Brad Webber know to look at his texts if he had no idea what the interview was about?”

Crickets. Haha. I sure do love a crafty and cunning attorney. 👏🏼😆 The fact that interview was conducted so late is sooooo SUS.

This is absolutely the best news ever. Stacy Uliana was the appellate attorney for David Camm, the final one that actually got an acquittal.

It's cartwheel time for me. RA has hope again. It's time for some actual justice for RA, LG, and AW.

https://www.youtube.com/live/XoiqDg4q39s?si=F4UsQnfUwLZvUoz6

I was watching Sleuth Intuition's interviews with Patrick Westfall and one particular moment jumped out at me.

From around 7 minutes in, SI begins reading extracts from the Memorandum regarding Amber Holder's statements to LE, including the statement that Brad told her Patrick killed L&A and started the Flora fire.

Patrick goes on a little rant about Brad telling lies about their time in Afghanistan, that they fell out over Brad going to church etc. SI stops him and says "Well, this isn't proof that Brad said it, this is proof that Amber said Brad said it."

Long pause.

Patrick: "I get that. But if she said it and those were the words out of his mouth and it was verified by polygraph..."

Then at about 11:10, Patrick begins to say "I'm not gonna disagree-", presumably intending to say "I'm not gonna disagree with what she said." He stops himself and says:

"[I'm not] gonna say anything about what she said but it blows me away that Brad would go and tell people about that."

Not "It blows me away that Brad would tell people things like that"; or "It blows me away that Brad would make stuff like that up." It blows him away that Brad is telling people "about that." That being Patrick's multiple murders.

Why the long pause when SI suggests there's no proof Brad really said this? Why is Patrick so sure that Brad told this to Amber? Why is he so trusting of Amber's words, someone he claims to barely know? Because he knows the story is true. He knows that Amber hasn't made it up because he knows the only way she would know these things about him is if Brad told her.

Edit:

As an aside, I noticed in his prior interview that he may have slipped up in a rant about DNA. I found a video where someone else noticed this too:

https://youtu.be/aYGC3KdnB5w?si=j4FjeZjIvVpumfRq

Patrick says his DNA was taken again in 2023. He concludes that they must have DNA evidence from the scene. So then he wonders:

"What the hell are you doing with Richard Allen locked up [if you have DNA]?"

Once again, it sounds like he catches his error here once it's already left his mouth and takes a pause while he scrambles to get out of it.

Why would anyone conclude that the existence of DNA at the crime scene, without knowing whose DNA it is (as Patrick presumably wouldn't), means that Richard Allen shouldn't be locked up? Because Patrick knows that Allen's DNA isn't at the scene. He knows this because he knows whose DNA would be at the scene.

Nevermind the other interesting statement he makes: "We were all told there was no DNA at the start of the investigation."

Hmm. Who are "We" and who told them there was no DNA? Why on earth would anyone involved in the investigation be revealing this to possible suspects?

Second Edit:

About two thirds of the way into his second interview (first video interview), he's asked "Do you think Brad Holder killed Abby and Libby?" Patrick answers:

"Brad as some psycho killer? He ain't got the heart."

Very odd answer. Why is Patrick putting Brad down for not being capable of child murder? Most people would describe the killer of two little girls as a coward. It's almost like Patrick doesn't want to give him credit for it.

I'm tired of hearing the pro state people call us " child killer supporters". I think almost all of us (unless your a total sicko) would wish the absolute worst on the person who actually did this horrific crime to these 2 little girls. We support Richard allen because we believe he's innocent, not because we condone the person who did this despicable crimes actions. This should go without saying, but these pro state people are calling us child killer supporters, and it's disingenuous.

Congratulations to u/moldynred on reaching 2️⃣,0️⃣0️⃣0️⃣ members on this subreddit 🎉

I recall that the number made it past 1,000 just before the trial started. The fact that the membership of a sub of this name has doubled since and keeps growing after the verdict tells its own story…

Thank you Moldy as always for creating and keeping up this safe place for all information and opinions to be shared and exchanged within the bounds of decency 💟

'you know, we do know that we believe that the girls were communicating with
somebody else that they thought they may be meeting that day, but we don't, we don't have any evidence indicating that Richard Allen was planning on meeting those two girls that day'

The more this guy talks, the more he proves KK should have been allowed to be discussed at the trial. He or his account is the reason the girls went to the bridge that day. If KK doesn't meet a Nexus in Indiana for third party, no one ever will.

Normally I wouldn't think it was a possibility for the record to be wrong but

1. everything has been bonkers in this case

2. it happened in Morphew case