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Article [Article] Brendan Dassey Conviction Overturned, Could Be Released in 90 Days
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This is a theory I saw on a Youtube comment and I had to share it...
"The police didn't kill Theresa Halbach. Andrew Colborn located that RAV4 with the assistance of Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas who illegally trespassed onto the Avery Salvage Yard on the night of November 3rd 2005. Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas suspected something was up since the Avery Salvage Yard was the last place they knew Theresa visited on Oct.31st Halloween day. They went snooping on the property and found the car. They checked the car and found the key in the ignition and blood in the cargo area. Mike or Ryan removed the key from the ignition to ensure that no one could easily move the car off of the Avery property... freaked out about this huge discovery they call the Manitowoc Sheriffs Department. Andrew Colborn fielded the call that night and went out and met Ryan and Mike at the Salvage Yard so he could view the car for himself. Ryan and Mike show him the car and to be certain its Halbachs he "calls" in the plate number to dispatch. Colborn has to "call" in... instead of "radio" in... the plate number to Manitowoc dispatch because he wasn't in his police cruiser at the moment, but rather on foot and in the "field' on the Avery Salvage property. This mistake places Colborn at the scene and in contact with Halbachs RAV4... 2 days before it is officially located on November 5th, 2005, by Pam Sturm.... This is problematic for Colborn because all call and radio transmissions to dispatch are recorded and logged onto the Manitowoc Police server. Andrew Colborn is now operating outside of police protocol at a potential crime scene that he has no official directive to be at. He tells Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas to basically STFU about what they found and not mention to anyone that they were ever on the Avery Salvage property that night. Ryan or Mike turns the RAV4 key over to Andrew Colborn. Mike and Ryan are told to go home. Andrew Colborn then immediately calls Lt. James Lenk and briefs him about the discovery of the Halbach car and breaches of protocol he committed on the Avery property, also about Ryan Hillegas and Mike Halbach being there. Lt James Lenk realizing that Colborn's calling in Halbachs plate is a serious mistake with potential consequences orders Andrew Colborn to remove the license plate from Halbach's car and then report to him immediately.
What James Lenk and Andrew Colborn, or the others for that matter, don't realize at this point and are completely unaware of is that Bobby Dassey and Scott Tadych have kidnapped, raped, shot and then burned Theresa Halbach in the privacy of the gravel quarry off of Jambo Rd on Halloween evening. They choose to burn her body to dispose of their DNA evidence of the crimes. They hid Halbach's car in the rear of Avery Salvage and wiped it clean of their prints. I believe it is Scott Tadych's idea to secretly transport the cremains of Halbach from the gravel quarry and dispose them into Steven Avery's burn pit. Scott Tadych transports Halbach's cremains in secret by using one of Barb Jandas burn barrels from her yard. Scott Tadych fails to collect all of Halbach's cremains from the original burn site in the gravel quarry, thus leaving some behind that FBI investigators later find... but he also fails in making certain all of Halbach's cremains are out of Barb Jandas burn barrel after dumping them into Steven Avery's burn pit. This is why investigators found small bits of Halbach in Barb Jandas burn barrel. Thus making a total of three sites where Halbach's cremains are found. Scott Tadych and Bobby Dassey are unaware that Ryan Hillegas and Mike Halbach have found Theresas car on the property and that Lenk and Colborn are now involved and in play with their scheme. .........By shear colossal luck, two completely independent frame jobs targeting one man, Steven Avery were shaping up into the perfect storm. On one front, from Lenk and Colborn regarding the RAV4, ....and on the other unconnected front by Scott Tadych and Bobby Dassey regarding the cremains of Theresa Halbach. One party wasn't aware of the other's involvements at any point during the days leading up to the official discovery of Halbach's RAV4 at the Avery Salvage Yard hence why the investigation and murder trial made zero sense to anyone especially the Jury.
None of the evidence could be connected because it was all unrelated... everybody was guessing. But Buting and Strang had zeroed in on a part of it but couldn't fully form a solid defense to prove it. The Jury couldn't conceive that Manitowoc officers could have conspired to kill Theresa Halbach to frame Steven Avery as Ken Kratz insisted they had to if they wanted to follow the theory the defense presented of the frame up of Steven Avery by Manitowoc officials. And Ken Kratz was right... Imagine Scott Tadych's confused and utter relief when Steve Avery's blood was found in the Halbach car and the RAV4 key found in Steve Avery's bedroom..... he must have been like.... WTF?! A quote from Scott Tadych after Steven Avery is convicted of Theresa Halbach's murder.... "THIS IS THE GREATEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN" ..... We will see Scott, we will see....................."
This is probably the most credible theory I have come across so far. Notice how the events here not only make logical sense, but they also line up with how many of the parties involved behaved during the documentary i.e how Mike Halbach and Ryan Hillegas seemed like they knew more about what happened than they were leading on. As well as Scott Tadych and Bobby Dassey's bizarre hostility towards Steven Avery.
I can't see another theory topping this one personally.
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Much has been said about MaM leaving out prosecution evidence, but here's a list of defense evidence it also left out. If you know of other tidbits, please share them, with sources if possible, and I'll add them to the list.
*Updated list includes items from /u/PuppyBabyMan, /u/rockywayne, /u/SlowTheRain, /u/pajam, /u/triddy6, /u/chromeomykiss, /u/marz0629, /u/Crunch117, /u/juzt_agirl, /u/abyssus_abyssum, /u/Daddy23Hubby21. Thanks, Redditors!
Dean Strang recalled that one of the investigators involved in finding DNA under the hood of Halbach's car admitted to not changing gloves after handling evidence inside her car. Source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SGwXEJ_0X2A Reddit discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/3ztcch/wow_investigator_didnt_change_gloves_after/
Remember Sherry Culhane, the expert who testified about Halbach's DNA being on the bullet, except she contaminated her control sample, but since she'd used the whole sample (leaving nothing for the defense to test), they went ahead and treated it as conclusive? In 1985, she testified in the Penny Beernsten case that a hair "consistent with" Penny's was found on Steven's shirt. Source: http://www.law.virginia.edu/pdf/faculty/garrett/innocence/avery.pdf and http://lacrossetribune.com/news/state-and-regional/wi/dna-expert-who-helped-exonerate-avery-testifies-in-murder-trial/article_5dc71915-0a95-5438-bf29-e168b655a855.html and http://www.convolutedbrian.com/testimony-notes-26-feb-2007.html and http://www.convolutedbrian.com/the-poster-child-effect.html
"Buting showed that Culhane delayed the DNA test that freed Avery for a year" and "Culhane’s error rate was shown to be the highest of her group although her analysis time was seventy percent of the other analysts. She explained this by stating she did more samples than others." Source: http://www.convolutedbrian.com/testimony-notes-26-feb-2007.html
Investigators never dusted the Toyota key (with Steven's DNA) for fingerprints. http://fox6now.com/2016/01/07/march-7-2007-search-for-steven-averys-fingerprints-crime-lab-expert-testifies/
Strang said Manitowoc County Coroner Debra Kakatsch would testify that she was "walled off entirely" from the crime scene by Calumet County authorities. By state statute, she should have been allowed to investigate early reports of possible human bones being found outside of Avery's trailer, he said.
Strang said the coroner had also received calls from the Manitowoc County executive and the county's top attorney not to investigate the case. Source: http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/witness-says-she-saw-victim-later-b99642985z1-363818721.html
Culhane testified that the amount of Avery's DNA on Halbach's hood latch (which could have been blood) was very small, similar to what you would get from rubbing Avery's toothbrush on it, or from the unchanged gloves of the tech who handled blood evidence inside the car and then touched the hood. https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/406qfo/it_was_not_proven_that_the_dna_on_the_hood_latch/
Buting wanted to show jury anonymous letter mailed to MTSC, found in Green Bay Post Office, which claimed a body had been burned in the smelter at 3:am on Friday. Sources: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1683&dat=20070308&id=UuMqAAAAIBAJ&sjid=pEUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6227,3242420&hl=en and http://fromwhisperstor.fr.yuku.com/topic/22752/Steven-Avery-Murder-Trial-John-Lees-Trial-Blog#.Vo7kgR7DPIU (Note that this last link comes from a website that, irritatingly, replaces every instance of "ass" with "DorkFish", so Fassbender comes out "FDorkfishbender. Why, website, why???)
Clerk Lynn Zigmunt testifies that she had a log everyone was supposed to sign when they went into the evidence room, but "some people were making exceptions for people. We've tightened up on that." Source: http://fox6now.com/2016/01/07/march-6-2007-who-cut-the-evidence-tape-that-should-have-sealed-steven-averys-blood/
Blaine Dassey testified that his brother, Bobby, was asleep when he got home from school around 3:40pm, contradicting Bobby's testimony that he got up at 2:30pm and saw Teresa headed towards Steven's trailer. Source: http://fox6now.com/2016/01/07/february-27-2007-another-nephew-of-steven-avery-takes-the-stand/
Dean Strang says Steven's jail conversations were taped for 16 months and he never implicated himself, and this - along with the fact that in his experience, people "mentally equipped as Steven is" always end up confessing or implicating themselves - makes him think Steven may be "stone cold innocent." Source: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/01/08/making-a-murderer-attorney-dean-strang-reveals-what-sparked-horrible-sense-steven-avery-may-be-stone-cold-innocent/
Now Sheriff (then "under sheriff") Robert Hermann is president of another salvage company in the region, and was working at it before he went into law enforcement in the 80s. http://cleveland-auto-sales-salvage.cleveland.wi.amfibi.directory/us/c/18826455-cleveland-auto-sales-salvage and http://www.htrnews.com/story/news/local/2014/07/01/sheriff-robert-hermann-recalls-career-highlights-changes/11944007/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=. Also, Hermann also attended the FBI Academy in Quantico in 1995, where he "made some great law-enforcement contacts.” Could explain why they got the FBI to fabricate an EDTA test and do it pronto for them. http://www.htrnews.com/story/news/local/2014/07/01/sheriff-robert-hermann-recalls-career-highlights-changes/11944007/
Dean Strang stated they had a forensic anthropologist at trial who testified that an open fire wouldn't have generated enough heat to burn a body in the way that those bones were destroyed, but it didn’t make the documentary. Dean Strang on Megyn Kelly, the Kelly File 1/5/2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIBAoe8hNPk
In between 3:30 - 4PM, A propane delivery truck driver (John Leurquin) saw a green SUV leaving the Avery property at but couldn’t identify driver or if it was a male or female. He delivers propane for Valders Co-op. Usually fuels up near Avery property at 3:30 for about half an hour http://www.wsaw.com/news/headlines/6386482.html
“Police said she was wearing blue jeans, a white button-down shirt and a summer jacket when she was last seen. Schmitz would indicate that Halbach was at his residence at approximately 1:30 p.m. Was there for approximately ten minutes. Was wearing a white shirt, waist -- waist-length jacket, and blue jeans. (Day 4 of Dassey Trial) Zipperer would indicate that Halbach was at her residence between approximately 2 to 2:30 p.m. Was there for approximately ten minutes. Was wearing a white top, waist-length jacket, and blue jeans. (Day 4 of Dassey Trial) Bobby Dassey said when he saw Teresa Halbach photographing the van Avery was selling Oct. 31, 2005, she was wearing a knee-length coat and slacks. http://fromwhisperstor.fr.yuku.com/topic/22752/Steven-Avery-Murder-Trial-John-Lees-Trial-Blog#.VpLqvJMrLq2 and http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:8ob2esw3Gd4J:archive.postcrescent.com/article/99999999/APC0101/511060418/Car-missing-woman-found&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1&vwsrc=0
Steven filed an interesting post-conviction document naming other suspects the police should have looked into. Please do not take this as Steven actually accusing any of these men; it's just meant to show a judge that there were other viable suspects besides Steven, and that should create reasonable doubt. http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/wkow/newsdocs/avery%20document%20page%2023%20+.pdf
William Newhouse, a gun expert with the Wisconsin State Crime Lab, said he couldn't conclusively link a bullet found in a crack in Avery's garage to a .22-caliber rifle seized from his bedroom. (He could only confirm that it was definitely a bullet from a .22 caliber rifle). There was no DNA on the gun, no blood blow back that you’d get from shooting someone at that close range and no blood mist / spatter around the garage that would also be present had someone been shot in the garage. http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/prosecutors-link-gun-found-in-room-to-bullet-with-halbachs-dna-b99643001z1-363819121.html
Strang proved and Bobby Dassey agreed that the joke about hiding a body that Steve supposedly said to Bobby Dassey and Mike Osmundson on Nov 3 before Teresa was reported missing couldn't have been made on Nov 3, because Bobby Dassey was working that night. If it did happen, it could have only been made Nov 4 after Teresa's disappearance was public. http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/testimony-unclear-on-timing-of-joke-b99643032z1-363820361.html The documentary showed Steven's defense team questioning the date of the alleged joke but left out the evidence of why it couldn't have been heard by Dassey and Osmunson before Teresa's disappearance was public.
The defense eliminated as many problematic jurors as the law allowed, but they still ended up with a MCSD sheriff's father and a county clerk's husband. http://www.people.com/article/steven-avery-juror-says-two-jurors-related-county-employees
On the 'Kelly Files' interview, Dean Strang mentioned that there were little drops off deer blood all over Averys garage, essentially debunking the theory that they could have cleaned all the blood evidence out of the garage, since had they cleaned it that thoroughly, there wouldn't have been any deer blood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIBAoe8hNPk
Colborn testified that he "roughly" shook the bookend table when the key fell out, yet if you look at the photo, there is a remote and some paper sitting on top and things sitting neatly inside. https://imgur.com/a/vgV9B
Manitowoc County Public Safety minutes for 12-6-05 show 744 Hours + $2,800 of Sheriff time billed in first month of Halbach investigation. 744 hours/24 hours = 31, which means during a month Manitowoc was supposed to be recused from the investigation, they are saying they put in the equivalent of someone working every single minute on this investigation. Plus, DA Mark Rohrer is in these meetings, discussing the case when they're supposed to have turned it over to Kratz. Source: http://www.co.manitowoc.wi.us/upload/3/PublicSafetyMinutes12-6-05.pdf
On the leg irons/handcuffs from Avery's house. They tested those for DNA and found a mixture of DNA from 2 or more people. They confirmed Avery to be a source of one of the matches. Most importantly, they excluded Teresa's DNA as a match. https://www.dropbox.com/s/6pjd6kpq5o5mx40/Dassey%20Trial%20Transcript.pdf?dl=0 Day 4/8/07.
Brendan describes how he couldn't shoot Teresa because his mom's ex-boyfriend once had to put down one of their sick cats by shooting it, and he couldn't watch. 3/01/06 Interrogation Transcript Pages 589 and 590, https://www.docdroid.net/ZSo3Oc1/01mar2006transcript.pdf.html
In one interrogation, Brendan says he see's SA hide the key. At this point where the location where the key was found was public. When he's first asked he says SA put it under the dresser. After he was immediately asked again he then says it's in a drawer - "Like the second one down, like in the middle row." Looking at the picture however, that dresser doesn't even have drawers. Dresser: https://imgur.com/a/vgV9B Source: http://convolutedbrian.com.s3.amazonaws.com/dassey/01Mar2006/01Mar2006Transcript.pdf The exact lines come at the end of page #602 and the top of page #603. The actual page of the pdf excerpt is 77-78.
24 tooth fragments were found among the remains believed to be Halbachs. Interestingly, the crowns - the hardest part to destroy, and best part for identification - were gone. From Brenda's trial: "They were all burned. They were all charred. Uh, they were very brittle. Um, again, they didn’t look like normal tooth like we would normally see, and essentially, the crowns were all gone. (emphasis is mine). What we were looking at was just the root structure, which was, um, part of the tooth that’s buried in the bone. There was one portion of a crown, um, but that portion was from a — cuspid or an eyetooth and was not able to be identified."" https://justiceforbradcooper.wordpress.com/2016/01/05/analysis-of-evidence-in-the-teresa-halbach-investigation-making-a-murderer-documentary/ Be sure to follow the links on that page for more info about how teeth disintegrate.
The Rav4 key that was found in Steven's bedroom is not the primary/master key for that vehicle. It's a valet/subkey. The master key and subkey are differentiated by the shape of the key's bow as shown in 1999 Toyota Rav4 owner's manual. http://i.imgur.com/WDjuJ99.jpg http://i.imgur.com/b9Pn5GC.png http://www.ownersmanualsforcars.com/manuals.item.3690/Toyota-RAV4-Owners-Manual-1999.html https://www.reddit.com/r/MakingaMurderer/comments/3z8pwn/summary_of_discussion_on_the_rav4_key/
Jerry Buting: "The other thing that wasn't covered in the documentary is, we presented an expert who's from Canada, and he had never testified for anybody but the Crown, the prosecution, before. He was really a world expert on finding cremains outside and in various locations [where one might] try to hide and dispose of a body. And he testified consistently with what we had found in the literature, which is: to burn a body takes either extremely high heat, or a very long, sustained, moderate medium-high type of heat, and it would be very difficult to burn a body in an open pit — an open fire — particularly to the degree that these bone fragments showed. At a crematorium, for instance, they use extremely high heat, and it still takes several hours. Here, you would have had to continually stoke a fire over, and over, and over for 12, 14, 16 hours — something like that — in order to produce this [type of effect]. And there was no evidence that any fire [like that] had [taken place]. There was a bonfire, but there was no evidence that there was any intense fire like that for such a long, sustained period of time." http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/making-a-murderer-steven-averys-lawyer-on-the-evidence-left-out-20160115#ixzz3xMDLUsgQ
Jerry Buting: "...the fragments that were found in the barrel came from all over the body. They had a diagram of the skeleton. They came from the shoulder, the toe, the leg, the arm — it was a complete mix. It was more consistent with what we thought had happened, which is that the body was burned elsewhere, scooped up into this barrel, dumped on Avery's property, most of it, but then some remained in the muck — sort of just a mix of bone." http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/making-a-murderer-steven-averys-lawyer-on-the-evidence-left-out-20160115#ixzz3xME62vic
Kratz was also accused of sexual assault by three women. "Three women, including the woman in the 2009 incident, claimed Kratz had sexual contact with them. One of the women declined to provide any information about an alleged 1989 incident. The third woman said the contact, which allegedly occurred in 1999, was "theoretically" consensual because she agreed because Kratz said he could help her regain custody of her children. Kratz was Calumet County's district attorney for 18 years." and "The Office of Lawyer Regulation found merit in the allegation, however, citing Kratz for two ethics violations related to the incident, according to an 11-count complaint filed late last month...The DOJ investigated the incident and several others involving Kratz but concluded in March that criminal charges were not warranted." Source: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/crime_and_courts/disgraced-former-da-kratz-cited-by-regulators-for-alleged-sexual/article_4602156e-236a-11e1-b8b2-001871e3ce6c.html
There is a "questionable stain", that tested positive for blood, recovered from the quarry. A DNA profile was developed that matched a male and it did not match SA, Bryan Dassey or Alan Avery (why only those three?). The stain is labelled as item CX. You can find it in Exhibit 313. A full DNA profile was developed. The following image displays the DNA profile, location found and the fact it tested positive for blood (DNA profile top left in picture). XY in the bottom row means it is a male. http://imgur.com/EJDW4ce Here is the result stating that identifies it as not belonging to SA. http://imgur.com/dtqP78E
A WSCL fingerprint examiner testified at SA's trial that the "mystery print" did not match Steven Avery, Avery's mom or dad, Avery's brothers, his mother, Avery himself, the three Dassey brothers, Barb Janda, or Scott Bloedorn. Apparently when he was asked whether the print matched Scott Tadych, the State objected on the basis of relevancy, the objection was sustained, and the examiner never testified as to whether the print matched Scott Tadych's print. I've linked to the article below. The article itself misses quite a bit, but the excerpt I've provided below is at the end of the article. http://onmilwaukee.com/movies/articles/makingamurderertouchdna.html
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This has to be the WORST comment made that NO one is talking about. How about the fact, the Sheriff's department video in Ep 2, at the 42:00 mark, a female officer states he wont be making the November 19, 2005 luncheon from the Wisconsin Law school BEFORE he is even arrested. And THEN states, and I'm so pissed this was NEVER brought back up for the INTENTIONAL biased against this family, while looking in the closet 30 secs later, "We should take all those shoes in case we have any unsolved burglaries with foot impressions."
How is this EVEN close to not biased or a comment that incriminates the department on even THINKING they would plant evidence at a crime scene...... Why is no one talking about that?
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