So I just had this thought. What if Scarlet is Livia? We know from the latest novel that Sea of Sorrows spoiler, and that Livia was last seen in GW1 with the Scepter of Orr. Now, the Scepter has corrupted a good person before, as Vizier Khilbron was not always evil. The Scepter gave him unnaturally long life and made him extremely powerful.

Livia has red hair, possibly a reference to the name "Scarlet", she possesses the ability to live an unnaturally long life, and she wields a very powerful and ancient dark artifact. In the past she was sworn to protect the queen and the rightful heir(s) to the thrown of Kryta, but what if that's suddenly changed after 250 years?

Just something to ponder...

Edit: Also important to note: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Livia

When asked about what happened to Livia and the Scepter of Orr, continuity designer Ree Soesbee stated that she "couldn't answer that question" and that it was important that she couldn't answer it.

My guildmates have been getting into a lot of lore digging lately, and a bunch of our theories keep bringing us back to Queen Jennah, Logan Thackery, The Shining Blade, etc.

Last night, we noticed something a bit strange, however. It may be nothing, but it was enough for us to take notice.

First, Jennah has a cat called Shadow who you can see in the throne room. In a certain dialogue with her, she reveals that that cat has been with her since here childhood. Queen Jennah, according to a conversation between Sylvari in the Grove, is almost 30 years old, which means that that cat is likely around 20 years old, and this is much longer than the lifespan of domestic cats (at least in the real world.)

Another detail of note is that Shadow is the name of a well-known member of the Shining Blade in Guild Wars 1. I'll post a link to her wiki page, as well as the others referenced herein, at the bottom of this post.

Lastly, there is a strange amount of information missing about Queen Jennah. From in game details and notes in the wiki, we know that she is supposedly a descendant of Queen Salma and thus of King Doric. However, nowhere in game or on the wiki do we see any other mention of the royal family, except in the case of King Baede, the one responsible for the building of Divinity's Reach. Baede had three children - two of which who have since, supposedly, died, and the third whose name is unknown. The timeline does not have any information on who took up the throne, and we were unable to find such information in game either.

Of course, realizing this lack of information, we kept searching, and found our final detail on the Divinity's Reach wiki page. It may very well be nothing, but it was certainly an eerie detail after this much speculation. On this page the human political structure is discussed. Upon clicking a link marked 'royal family,' you are taken directly to the page of Queen Jennah.

No timeline, family tree, or any detail of that sort... By this logic, Queen Jennah is the royal family.

TL;DR - Queen Jennah has a strangely long-lived cat, and there is no mention of her recent family tree anywhere in or out of the game.

But, of course, this could all be nothing... Details lost to time, strange lifespans for the animals of Tyria, and meaningless connections. We just have fun pondering over what may be in store for our favorite game, and I thought you guys might like to hear about it as well!

If you have any theories relating to this, I'd love to hear about them!

Links

Divinity's Reach: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Divinity%27s_Reach

Queen Jennah: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Queen_Jennah

Shadow (Cat): http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shadow

Shadow (GW1): http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Shadow

King Baede: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/King_Baede

Timeline: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Timeline

I had the following linked to me on my previous post. It proves that there is information about the royal family out there, but we're still missing the details of how they came into power and who they really were.

https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/lore/Who-was-King-Roderick/first#post2916128

Ill start this right off. Once you collect all the obelisk shards for the current meta-archievement, the NPC says that the shard are quite similar to the Bloodstone Shards. Now if my knowledge isn't failing me, the Bloodstone Shards contained a huge amount of magic. So the Obelisk Shard should also contain much magic.

Scarlet needs to get large amounts of energy, in order ro be able to manipulate time and space, in order to make her vision (explained in the short story) true. I am speculating further on this speculation because I think it was a likely theory. I think /u/Psynchrony came up with this first so credits to him.

Now as for the Obelisk. I think the Krait are the only one who can actually do something with the shards. They contain a lot of some form of magic/energy.

The speculation: Scarlet provided the Obelisk Shards for the Krait, gaining their friendship, so that she can either steal the magic that they tap from the shards (Scarlet is fooling the Krait) , OR she is actively working together with the Krait to launch a direct powerful attack (maybe through the nightmare tower) that will benefit both sides.

I am being very shallow here and I just wrote down what first came to my mind, resulting in an incredible loose end. I hope you guys can help form thhe theory to a next stage. This is a good way to make a good theory I think, because in this way, it is not just one person forming the theory, which makes the chance of an error less. I hope this speculation is going somewhere.

If anyone wants to read some more about Malchor's story and his love for Dwayna, here's a nice story.

The Tragedy of Malchor

Size Comparison

The point: Zhaitan was a relatively dinky for a Dragon.

While extracting lore from game mechanics is a silly idea, and of course, Arah was woeful because of deadlines, Zhaitan was remarkably easy to kill for an Eldritch abomination.

Getting to Zhaitan, was not. In Lore, the dragon itself was by no means an easy kill, but the bulk of the difficulty was his army. Thus, it has been speculated, that Zhaitan itself was small and had invested the majority of it's power in it's intensely large undead military.

So, inverse proportionality of Quality/Number of Minions to individual power of the Dragon controlling them.

Discuss!

So this is something that I've been thinking about for a while now, or rather trying to find an answer to. In Tyria we see lots of examples of relationships, and they span a wider variety of taboos than are normally explored in gaming fantasy; for instance, we know that in Tyria, homosexual relationships aren't something criminal or taboo. But one of the things I haven't seen anywhere is whether it would be taboo for there to be a relationship between two different races (here I'm confining it to the sentient, playable races) or not. I mean, for us in the real world that would be something we'd give a long pause to. But for Tyrians who work alongside each other as (mostly) equals, I wonder how that would be treated. As far as I'm aware, there aren't any examples of this (feel free to prove me wrong), but this was just something that has crossed my mind a number of times.

Cross-posted from /r/guildwars2 at the request of /u/jimthewanderer , [that thread here] (http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/33y0jz/orrian_architecture_what_did_it_look_like_before/)

This is the biggest thing that bothers me about Orr: I cannot, for the life of me, figure out what the heck anything was supposed to have looked like before the Cataclysm. NONE of the architecture makes a lick of sense. None of it is remotely similar to anything in the real world. Some of this is understandable -- being sunk by a giant magical cataclysm three hundred years ago, then violently ripped from the depths by a huge dragon and overrun by the walking dead would do a number on your buildings. At the same time, I honestly can't see how the city even should have WORKED. Does anyone have any fanart, drawings... I don't know, ANYTHING that would show us what it would have looked like intact?

A few topics to discuss:

1. Do you think that sylvari will be targeted by other players as well as in the story, now that we know they can be corrupted?

2. The pact fleet crashed. Who do you think survived and how does it affect the lore? If destiny's edge is gone, how will that affect us as players?

3. With caithe still in possession of the egg, do you think she will keep it safe? Or do you think it will end up in the dragon's hands?

4. With the introduction of revenant, do you think there will be more story having to do with ascalon/the portal that rytlock fell into?

Discuss!

These videos are playthroughs of Guild Wars 2's dungeon, fast forwarding the work, and realtiming just the cinema and some other story points. I couldn't find it on Youtube, so decided to make it myself with the help of my fellow Reddit Refugee guildies. More info at - http://www.reddit.com/r/gw2_guild

Why did I make these? Playing the game without reading Edge of Destiny made all the cinemas confusing. That's probably why people skip them. Hopefully being able to see the cinemas after reading the book will get some people up-to-date.

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• [Guild Wars 2: Caudecus's Manor - Story Mode Cinema]

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• [Guild Wars 2: Twilight Arbor - Story Mode Cinema]

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• [Guild Wars 2: Citadel of Flame - Story Mode Cinema]

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• [Guild Wars 2: Honor of the Waves - Story Mode Cinema]

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• [Guild Wars 2: The Ruined City of Arah - Story Mode Cinema]

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We know what they do and probably why they're all in or around the country of Tyria [it's rich in yummy magic], but what exactly is their purpose in this world? They wake up, destroy the world by eating all the magic, and then they sleep for 10,000 years or so to release all the magic they just ate.

Why though?

I have a theory based on the Eternal Alchemy cutscene and the fact that the orbs are seemingly filled to the brim with colored stuff. Now, I will be using color terms for the explanation but please remember it is just to simplify things, in actuality the colors represent elemental/general affinities.

My idea is that magic gets converted when it is used in spells or what-not and that it needs to be 'cleaned' or else it will all eventually be used up. To this end the dragons are needed, they each have a color associated with them which in turn relates to the kind of magic they consume. Primordus is red so it consumes all the yummy firey stuff, Zhaitan was green so it consumed all the nasty deathly stuff that the others wouldn't touch, etc.

To make an analogy: When an Elementalist throws a fireball they are drawing pure/white magic from the source and changing it into fire/red magic when it is thrown. Even if the flames dissipate it is my idea that the magic used remains in it's now tainted form, eventually, after enough fireballs, there is no more white/pure stuff to be used.

In that hypothetical situation the only kind of magic that could then be used would be fire, right? Well, what if each time the magic is used it becomes more and more tainted/unstable until eventually it's all just nasty crud floating around. In that case magic as we currently know it would be over, no more magitech or healing spells, no more potions or seals/barriers, it would all be at an end.

To this end we have the dragons, every now and then they wake up to eat as much magic as they can before they slumber and by doing so they 'filter' it. When the magic seeps out of the dragons it is purified, this means that no matter what there will always be plenty of clean stuff to use. If this is right it means they're a necessary evil and that killing them off will just doom the world to a slow crawling 'death' until all the magic is used up. To support my theory I will mention two primary things:

• The central sphere is white.

• When Zhaitan's sphere crashes it splashes everything in a huge messy explosion of green.

By killing Zhaitan we have released all the magic he stored in his body, everything that was going to be filtered was just spilled out. If another dragon dies there will be an even bigger mess with the energies swirling together and making the well of 'white' a rather muddled shade instead.

To elaborate, I'm willing to bet we never get to kill Mordremoth, either that or we will and then we'll really start to see the effects of killing an elder dragon.

Plants exploding in life, thick dense foliage everywhere, the jungle slowly expanding outwards as all the foliage friendly magic is now spewed out into the world like a vitamin rich money shot. It's likely that the pale tree and the Sylvari by extension would also notice an increase in power/livelihood just the same as Tequatl did after the fall of Zhaitan. Risen share the same affinity that Zhaitan did so they can now gobble up all the green energy floating around with ease, like sponges. In this same regard the Mordrem and Sylvari will likewise have the same affinity of Mordremoth, that goes for Destroyers and Icebrood as well with Primordus and Jormag.

Isn't that a good thing you're probably saying, well the answer is yes and no, good for those that share those affinities but bad for everyone else. If Primordus bit the dust that would mean that the flood of destroyers underground would easily overpower and destroy the dwarves and then start working on the surface world. If Jormag crumbled it would result in the Icebrood demolishing the Norn pretty easily which would allow them to also begin settling in Charr and Human lands. Even then the world would still eventually come to that same slow grinding halt when there just isn't anymore magic for everyone to use.

That's just my theory for them anyways, I could be completely wrong, what do you guys think? It's clear that there is some kind of 'system' at work here and there's plenty of interpretations for that scene, share your own ideas for what those big pesky beasts are up to.

Plus, I think the game would be more interesting if the races didn't focus on how to kill the dragons but instead on how to contain/replace them.

;3

Something that has been bothering me lately while reading the recaps of Season 1 of GW2 (most of which I missed thanks to my final year of college). That something is the way the characters seem to refer to the player and the way the story has unfolded. There is no mention of how a group of adventurers of substantial size have fought off Scarlet and her minions.

It is very difficult to tell a story in an MMO that caters to the entire player base, while still staying coherent. In the original Guild Wars, ANet figured a way around it by creating instances that could only be inhabited by 1-16 players. This meant that, as far as the story was concerned, a small group of heroes won the day.

Guild Wars 2 did away with instances, and now we have enormous battles against huge champion enemies. However, the mechanics of the game specifically cater to parties of multiple people and, while one could certainly go out alone for adventures, it does work much better to have a small group.

The personal story ruins this illusion of a large world of heroes by addressing you specifically as the "hero" and completely ignoring all other players. Nowhere is it mentioned that it was a group of adventurers who saved the day, but rather the specifically named NPCS (i.e. Destiny's Edge and their successors) and the single player character.

My question in all of this is in the title of the post - do the other players exist as far as the game's canon is concerned? Or are we all inhabiting parallel universes while able to interact with each other?

I am called the "Hero of Shaemoor" and I am being praised for defeating Scarlet. But you know what? I did not ever even lay a hand on Scarlet. She came and went while I was offline.

Whilst idling in Rata Sum, I overheard some Asura talking about conducting sleep-education with a device called the Somno Scholar and how it'd make them famous. They went on to talk about how their subjects are only retaining about 40% of what they've learned, when awoken.

They then went on to say that they'd need a device to document these lessons, so they could view it the next day and then talked about using the Adventure Box to perform this task. Producing a hand held version to render captured brain waves and then interface with what has been recorded.

There was also a bit of conversation when they were talking about someone and wouldn't mention his name, he was referred to as 'he' and went something along the lines of "do you think he knows what he's done?" Possibly Moto? considering the theme?

I wasn't able to stick around again, to wait for them to start talking again, and take screenies of it, but I found someone on tumblr who managed to capture the conversation, which can be found here and here

What do you guys think? It's gotten me pretty excited :D and curious as to Moto's backstory o-o I think I'm gonna spend some more time in Rata Sum tomorrow, listening to idle chatter and see if I can pinpoint any more interesting conversations :3

Edit: I've found the location of the two Asura in question and Yavvi, the female has the new Asura face and hair style, so that pretty much confirms she's a new NPC :D I'm recording their dialogue now :) Apparently there's other new snippets of Dialogue around Rata Sum, that I've missed, so I'll be looking for an recording any ones I don't recognize as well :3

Edit 2: Recorded them :) Here it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtNJWF9nHKI&feature=youtu.be

Edit 3: The beginning of SAB world 3 ties in really nicely with this dialogue Spoilers

For anyone interested in the Cutscene, I recorded it here (Major Spoilers though)

Edit 4: Confirmed!

Edit 5: Someone on Tumblr translated some of the books found in SAB some of the had interesting names o: More possible spoils

Hi there. Im a pretty new player. I started playing GW2 a month before HOT came out but things came up that took most of my leisure time away and so I had to stop playing. Coming back I am quite interested in the lore. I know that there is a plethora of lore from the first game. I know Wooden Potatoes has a series on it but I feel its quite shallow. Aside from reading the wiki what other ways are there to learn up on the lore of GW1.

I was just reading up on the wiki about Grenth and Dhuum because I'm a lore noob, when I noticed something odd. Apparently, Grenth was a half-god before overthrowing Dhuum. He was, according to the wiki, the child of Dwayna and a human sculptor.

Which makes me think - is Grenth the child of Malchor the Sculptor? It seems impossible at first, considering Grenth was supposedly one of the gods Malchor sculpted for the people of Orr. However, there's an interesting contradiction in the lore which states (admittedly in only one source) that Malchor made a sculpture of Kormir - impossible, as Kormir had not even been born yet.

Is it possible, then, that Malchor's sculpture of Grenth (and Grenth's temple) actually belongs to Dhuum, and that the Orrians buried that part of the gods' history? Malchor made the sculptures at least some significant amount of time before the Exodus, as the gods lived in Arah for a while after Malchor's death, so is it not possible that Grenth did not ascend to godhood until after the Sculptor died?

I know this could be a very stupid question. I just thought I would bring it up anyway.

So I just played the new fractal! I was always assuming Scarlet would be involved, but I expected more dialogue to be honest. I also found the last boss of the fractal interesting. It couldn't just be a random thing. Through the release of that much energy there was a connection between worlds. I started to think. I think that even if we voted Gnashblade, Scarlet would still have appeared in the fractal, because she is the big living story thing. I think we saw what remained of Abaddon after his fall, but only a glimpse. Tell me your thoughts on this.

As for the thing that appeared all over the world: No idea. It might be a good thing to collect their locations and put them on the map of Tyria. It might contain a hint.

Can't wait for replies!

Thanks

EDIT: I have made screenshots of the dialogue in the fractal. While uploading something went wrong so it is not in the right order. Also a lot of text is double because of how many screenshots I took. Please ignore the derpy blackened pieces. I blacked this out with respect to privacy of my party members and I dont know shit about imgur. At least every sentence is there eh? I believe you guys get the picture. :P Enjoy!

http://imgur.com/gallery/PfSyQ/new

For a while now I've been working off the basis that the Thaumanova Reactor was am Inquest project but recently I happened to overhear a conversation in the relief camp nearby that calls this into question: When asked what caused the explosion one of the NPCs states that there may be Inquest agents nearby and (extrapolating slightly) the blame for the explosion should be put on them. Why blame the Inquest if you're working for them in the first place? You will doubtless have noticed that none of the reactor Krewe are dressed in Inquest robes either.

This leads me to believe that Thaumanova was a legitimate undertaking by multiple non-Inquest krewes looking into the application of "quasi-theosophic" (literally "divine-seeming" which seems as good a description of the Elder Dragons as any) energy, this is a direct quote from one of the survivors, I'm not making that up. So perhaps Rata Sum were already looking at dragon energy (as revealed by the different habitats) as a power source (after all, they did once use Primordus to power their gate hub) possibly "filtered" through a thaumacore (there's a stable thaumacore reactor without the draconic annexes in Brisban Wildlands) to improve/mix/stabilise/extend the effect. This might explain the hostility shown toward research into the Elder Dragon's magic-eating from the Asura personal story ... the Arcane Council were hostile because they already knew about the dragons' relationship with magic and were trying to exploit that via the Thaumanova Reactor.

My suspicion is that Kudu ("isn't that a girl's name?") engineered the explosion at the Arcane Council-funded reactor while stealing the plans in order to build his own reactor: the Crucible of Eternity.

Copying from /u/TsukasaK with his great post about the connection that could be with those :D

Greetings reddit, this is my first post here so hopefully this topic works out as intended!

After spending a few days with the new patch and reading various topics here i've noticed something that could be a link between the Zephyrite Aspects and Glint.

For GW1 players, we should remember that “The Dragons Lair” mission had us face 6 Aspects, consisting of Light, Nature, Chaos, Darkness, Elements and strength, which all took the form of a dragon, before we faced Glint herself, the “Crystal Dragon”.

This alone wasn't enough to draw a conclusion, however at the very end of the Zephyr Sanctum is a teacher talking to a group of children, she talks about how the Elder Dragons are not evil, but simpley forces of nature (This we already knew), but she also talks about Glint, and seems to place a lot of respect and emphasis into Glint whenever she is mentioned, I found it strange that a group living in the sky would know of Glint specificly, but even stranger that they seemed to speak of her in such high regard.

Now today I came across this reddit thread with the whole “Zephyrite song” recorded In game.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1i2mdu/i_became_obsessed_with_the_zephyrite_song_so_i/

In the song they appear to be mourning the loss of something, it can't be the aspects themselves otherwise the sanctum wouldn't still be flying, but some Lyrics really stand out.

“She flies no more in glinting beam and leaves a hollow hole”

Specificly refers to the being in question as female and a subtle hint with the word "Glinting"

“Alas, her magic strewn in sand. Alas her soul undone”

Most likely refering to Edge of destiny spoilers

“The clouds shed tears upon the land for the loss of our Crystal Sun”

This makes it sound like Glint was a core part of the Zephyrite “Religion”

“Alas Alas how time must pass. Ancient, magical friend.”

“So terrible, so dreadfull that so treasured should so end”

Refering to this being as "Ancient" seems to fit Glint perfectly so far.

Now the rest I haven't seen myself in game, and am going purely off the wiki, but on the Zephyrite wiki page has this sentence.

“Generations prior to the rise of Orr, a wise elder called the dwarves together and called them the protectors of heritage. Over time, guardianship was passed on to the humans. During this period, humans discovered the three Aspects and decided to construct Zephyr Sanctum as a safe haven from influences of the outside world and dedicate themselves to the aspects.”

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Zephyrite

This alone sound's like nothing major, but in GW1, there was an order known as the “Brotherhood of the Dragon”

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Brotherhood_of_the_Dragon

This brotherhood being a Dwarven group with a connection to Glint as the Vision of Glint could be summoned in Droknars forge from their Shrine. (We also recieved a cloth of the Brotherhood in GW1 for completing the Glint challenge in EOTN)

Trying to put all this together, could it be that the “Wise Elder” mentioned by the Zephyrites who called the Dwarves together was infact Glint? And that the duty of the brotherhood was passed onto Humans after the Dwarven race underwent the Rite of the Great Dwarf in EOTN, renaming themselves Zephyrite's in the process?

This would mean that the Zephyrite are the modern day version of the Brotherhood of the Dragon, and would explain why they are singing supposedly Edge of Destiny spoiler again upon landing and communicating with the races for the first time in most likely years.

It would also explain why they hold her in such high regard as to refer to her as their "Crystal Sun" if she was infact the "Elder" who founded the order with the dwarves centuries ago, could this also mean that the powers of the aspects that the Zephyrite's use are linked to the Aspects that guarded Glint's lair 250 years ago?

Maybe i'm seeing links where there are none, or maybe i'm stating the obvious, but either way it interested me enough to make this topic and see if we can get a good discussion going =D.

You know, for the longest time I thought that Tyria had a deliberate lack of horses. You have dolyaks and yaks and bulls and oxen used to cart stuff around, but nobody ever makes mention of riding on horseback. There's no stables anywhere, no spurs on armor, no lances, nothing to indicate that there ever were mounts like that. Sure, we had Stone Summit dolyak cavalry, and centaurs have filled a similar role (including undead ones in the armies of Palava Joko), but no proof of actual horses.

'course, that theory took a few bangs, starting with the big one being the presence of wooden figures of humans on horseback you can find in the big Skritt city the name of eludes me right now, and I think there's a reference to a pony, so now I'm unsure what to think. This is, honestly, my #1 question if the devs do a lore AMA.

While playing Guild Wars 2 as a Necromancer, I noticed that everyone is very casual about the fact that you're raising the dead and manipulating life energy and all that. It seems like something your average person would consider freaky, immoral and maybe outright evil, but that's not the case in the game as far as I could tell.

How does it work, are you born being an elementalist or something?

I am pretty new to the guild wars universe and I really think they made a great world one could be immersed in easily.