The other day at work somebody was talking about how “everything that they tell you is the truth is actually a lie.” This was about the moon landing or something. I work overnight stocking at a grocery store so I’m sure it doesn’t attract the smartest people but I couldn’t help but think holy shit this country is fucked
I must have lucked out by having parents who both valued education and encouraged intellectual pursuits. But then again, my mother was a high school teacher.
Because she taught high school, PUBLIC high school, she didn't take shit from anyone, and still doesn't, even in retirement!
We didnt land on the moon in 1969. They sent a satellite microwave transmitter and beamed memories of the moon landing into everyone’s head. That’s how they achieved the greatest hoax of all time. There is no moon. It is a device for amplifying and transmitting V2K as a mass brainwashing weapon. You only think its a moon and has always been there because of the device.
Jsyk, you can block posts, communities, and users on reddit. You can also modify your personal feed so you don't need to see stuff you don't like. It's a pretty customizable site.
I find it hilarious how convinced you all are that you're in any way broadening your horizons or learning new cultures or being open minded.
You literally all hate your parents, hate conservatives, hate religion, have literally 1 for 1 exact carbon copy positions with each other on every single point, and if there is even a slight deviation of thought on a single topic, you shun that person as also being an evil conservative, or religious person, or other group you hate.
Say what you want about the group's you dogmatically hate, at least they don't pretend to be inclusive until the minority disagrees with them.
I’m a Christian and black gay woman. Mostly liberal and a democrat with a few conservative viewpoints. I love my parents, I don’t hate conservatives(I share a few of the same views) and obviously as a Christian I don’t hate religion. I also don’t agree with every single democrat in the United States.
Most democrats feel as I do and they don’t hate anyone.
I think the main problem is that people are just using classic arrogant reddit snob, while also being blatantly or willing idiotic to own the other side or whatever. Most of these people are assuming college educated = smart, which it doesn't. Education and intellect are two different things. On top of that, a good chunk of people end up not using their degrees earned from college in their future jobs (https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/college-degree-jobs-unused-440b2abd). Also people are leaving out the fact that Colleges are becoming such a financial burden that many are starting to use cheaper and more efficient trade school programs which secure you a job after your training and only take half as long to complete compared to a Bachelors or Masters degree for a position which isn't even guaranteed to you (https://www.npr.org/2024/04/22/1245858737/gen-z-trade-vocational-schools-jobs-college). Overall while yes it is undeniable that college educated people lean Democrat. That doesn't mean that idiot = Republican. The majority of young people along with the ones from previous generations are starting to favor trade programs and with the rising prices of college education, it's starting to become unachievable for many poorer or modest families. Calling anybody or characterizing everybody who didn't go to college as idiots is an ignorant argument many are making in this comment section. This is why Kamla lost to Trump and why many other than her would also loose, people at the bottom when screwed over want change, the democrats used to be the countercultural party but they are now they are the establishment, I mean look at how many out of touch celebrity endorsements Kamla did. When the people at the bottom see these rich people preaching and looking down on them while their money keeps being drained, they're gonna vote for whatever else to get those people out of office. I mean the party's treatment of Burnie Sanders shows this amazingly, when he went on Rogan to do an unscripted interview that could go anywhere they began to put mud on his name with various accusations. They overlooked him in the 2016 election where he could have won pretty easily, and instead gave it to the one person with more baggage than Trump. The Democratic Party lost because they ignored the needs of the working class, they focused on divisive identity politics which while good at making your opponent look bad, kinda seem like an insult to everybody bring crushed under the Bidenomics economy. Didn't help they denied the inflation issue and currently are pointing to the stock market to show its good now. I don't think I need to tell people that the majority of Americans aren't trading stocks especially lower income households, so while the stockmarket might be a good tracker for the governemnts economic stability it doesn't reflect the peoples. Sorry for the rant but it's annoying how many people don't dare criticise the Democratic Party. I'm calling it right now I'm gonna be called a MAGA idiot, or something for criticizing the opossing party, nuance is dead you can't criticise one party without liking the other apparently. Trump is not a good guy he was on the Epstien list and also has a history of SA following him, but he won despite this, and it's all because you idiots can't look at yourselfs. I mean they're literally trying to deny that Bidens economy wasn't bad and that anybody complaining about grocery prices was being dumb. I expect to be downvoted for my take but please do better for your party and call out their bullshit, because while many don't want to believe it the Democrat party has become complicit and ignorant to its flaws. The proof is on social media where they chocked it up to fucking Joe Rogan? Please hold them accountable so they can do better next time. The worst thing you can do for the party you're so loyal to is to attack any criticism and ignore genuine flaws in it. Alright I'm done ranting I'm assuming most will not read the entire thing and just chock it up to bad faith bitching but whatever.
conservative anti-intellectualism really is a disease and it's getting really annoying talking past a surface level with most people in rural areas now because the nuance is just not there.
Children exposed to information their parents didn't have form their own opinions about this new information. This, and your local sports, coming up at the 10 o'clock hour..
Yea but in a time where you have full access to all human knowledge in your pocket, how long does 'ignorant' get a pass? Like, don't watch 5 football games a weekend and spend an hour googling or using chatgpt to not be 'ignorant'.
Like, not all Christians are bad people, but when you think 'other' people don't deserve basic human decency coz of a book written hundreds of years ago about a guy and his tribe from thousands of years ago, who lived in a completely different part of the world just for starters, maybe you are a bad person by general morals and ethics.
Does blind ignorance and stupidity not make them a bad person? Just giving up on education as soon as they turn 18, thinking they know everything, and refusing to acknowledge that learning is a continuous process for the rest of their lives?
Religion is the big part you’re missing that is contributing to anti-intellectualism. Religion says this is an indisputable fact with all the information we need. Science says this is the best conclusion that we can come to with the information available but that conclusion could change in the future if new information becomes available. There is no new information that will be added to the Bible or Torah or Quran or Bhagavad Gita, etc.
I've honestly started tipping from athiest to anti-theist lately.
Just look at all the damage done in the U.S. by the authoritarian mindset cultivated by the major religions. So many have just swapped their god/religion to the cult of Trump.
The frustrating part is that a lot of people place more value on confident answers without any evidence versus probable answers with evidence. Religion really drives this mentality home.
They want someone to tell them what to believe with certainty. They see anything less than that as weakness and dishonesty, when in reality it's the opposite.
I'm a scientist, and live in a red state. When I talk science to almost anyone on the right, it prompts them to share a Rogan podcast. They expect you to be impressed.
Rogan does sometimes have smart people on, but so long as they're not peer reviewed, it is the kiddy pool of scientific discourse.
The problem is that you can't just explain something to them. You've got to cover everything they don't know in order for the first thing to make sense. They don't know history, sociology, biology, etc... Then, when they are finally able to grasp that, they might be able to understand the first thing.
Once they realized that their platform can't survive on fact, this was always going to be the result, cults of personality and faith-based decision making.
It's largely about acts, not identity, with liberal voters. What a person does determines whether they are good or bad.
With many conservative voters, it is reversed. The person's identity determines whether their actions are good or bad. If they identify someone as being in the "good" group, likely one they also identify with, then anything that person does is by definition good, and at worst, forgivable. Things done by people outside their group must then be, by definition, bad. All value and perspective is based on how closely they believe that person's identity conforms to their own.
Once I realized this, so many seemingly hypocritical attitudes became logical, in their own way.
It amazes me how much they turn their leaders and politicians into quasi- religious figures. Everything becomes a matter of faith, and information that does not conform to what their faith tells them must be true is immediately rejected.
Instead of changing their ideas or beliefs in response to facts or evidence, they choose to accept or reject facts based on how closely they conform to their beliefs.
Conversely, the "intellectuals" of reddit seem to resort to 3 basic tactics in every conversation.
Emotional outburst, including name calling and ego based statements "I shouldn't have to explain that to you."
Deception, including misrepresenting the arguments of their "opponents" or using clever word play to skirt around an issue.
Manipulation, including corraling their "opponents" into positions they don't maintain "You think this and are obviously a republican."
Anti-intellectualism is rampant on this side of the aisle, as well. No one wants to be an adult and have honest or hard conversations anymore. Just tantrums and gotcha moments to own the other side. Go and read the smug and ego based posts about Kamalas civil handling of certifying the election. This was to be a moment of grace, now tarnished with childish behavior.
I studied geophysics in college. We learned about climate change and it was purely from a physical science perspective. Nothing about governments or people or what we should do about it. That and my history class was as close as I ever got to politics. It was history of the world since 1945. There really wasn’t much “liberal bias” or anything in that class. It was just learning what happened after WW2
It was popular to shit on climate change by conservatives several years ago. But even your backwards politicians acknowledge it in most countries nowadays. Imagine being behind the curve of an already medieval ideology. Remember that they burned Earth for profit once it becomes even more widely accepted and irrefutable that we are completely fucked.
50% of conservatives in the U.S. don’t think climate change is caused by human activity.
I just heard two conservative young people rant this last week about climate change not being due to human activity because of a stupid Rogan video they watched.
Exactly. We are escaping the parent bubble and learning how to think on our own. And we want a better future than what our selfish parents have built for their society.
Do you think those people just kind of appeared like some force of nature? We're not talking about a natural disaster with no particular cause. Those people took power because people liked what they were selling and repeatedly voted for them.
It's also a great way to introduce you to predatory capitalism. Student Loan debt is basically robbery of an entire civilization for several rich people who pay off both blue and red political puppets.
Yep, unions are imperfect things and a lot of people have negative experiences with them. They are also the only thing we've ever used to enact real change for average workers.
Few things can radicalize a college kid faster than paying 250 bucks for a textbook then having the bookstore offer you 12 dollars to buy it back at the end of the semester.
The truth of the matter is that, generally, the more educated you are, the less likely you're usually going to believe ignorant and prejudiced garbage about gays, people of color, Muslims, Jews...etc etc.
the more educated you are, the less likely you're usually going to believe ignorant and prejudiced garbage about gays, people of color, Muslims, Jews...etc etc.
which is why we saw American university students quoting ignorant and prejudiced garbage about Jews for the last few years, while glorifying literal terrorists and dictators.
This is unironically what made me realize how much of a moron I was for ever buying into the MAGA garbage Trump pushed initially in 2016. I went to college and realized that you can’t truly be conservative and educated at the same time. The two have been fundamentally incompatible for the past 8 years. You realize that trans people are normal people just like anyone else, you realize gay people are normal people just like you, you realize all these people are just trying to make it and find their place in this world. So many things conservatives care about have ZERO effect on them personally. That’s just from a philosophical and moral perspective too. In terms of pure logic and critical thinking half the shit conservatives are pushing for would literally have you failing out of a basic macroeconomics course. Tarrifs and being anti immigration in particular.
Yeah can't say I've ever experienced any of the extreme examples people have been throwing around here about being forced to read Marxist literature or the stereotypes being true. I'm not sure where they went or when, but I go to a diverse and STEM-focused school that isn't extremely political in general, but whenever we have approached touchy subjects, it was with a lot of care and respect.
You must understand, that these people don't want nuance, they want people to not go to college to learn critical thinking, so they demonize college. There are many reasons to hate college from its predatory loaning habits to tenured professors that don't give a shit. But these people are just being dishonest with themselves and trying to mislead others.
Conservatives hate higher education and rational thinking, largely because modern conservatism has embraced an increasingly emotional rather then rational foundation for its views, and hates when highly educated and intelligent people embarass them by using hard facts and scientific evidence rather then conspiracy theories and culture war nonsense.
Most people are moved by emotion in politics. This isn't really a phenomena unique to conservatism. Truly, how many leftists do you think even read their own foundational works?
You argue with the average person and their politics are entirely centred around what world view feels good.
Conservatism however has made emotional and conspiratorial reasoning the core of its modern ideology, rather then doing anything to meaningfully improve the lives of those who vote for it.
As a leftist I'll admit that I haven't read many of my own foundational works, however, I have read the foundational works of the modern conservative movement, from the bible to atlas shrugged, and what I read disgusted me.
Cause they grow up in rural areas that embrace simplicity and trust in authorities cause they fear being kicked out of society or cause they lack access to information and by the time they are 20-25 they become closed minded and indulged in that mindset that they cannot escape it without having to face cognitive dissonance.
Conservatism is based in fear of change, cause change feels “wrong” to them.
Rather than risk their children learning about the world they've decided to just go ahead and destroy schools and education. Rather than just allowing their kids to broaden their own minds they've decided that this world isn't even worth saving and we should keep all of humanity in the dark over everything. That's how deep they're dug in.
Do universities lean left? Yeah. But it’s not an indoctrination any more than rural areas are indoctrination for right-wing people. Getting exposed to more ideas/people tends to require more government which is why in rural areas they lean right because in those areas the government is perceived as more of a hindrance than help. And in cities it’s reversed.
Correlation doesn't prove causation. Someone who self selects to put off earning money, providing for a family, and instead pursues degrees (beyond a bachelor's degree the extra income is rarely worth it) and studying one specific topic to the point where you're an expert at it obviously self-selects for liberals regardless of intelligence. And I'm not even criticizing it, if you find something you're passionate about and want to truly become an expert in your narrow field and don't care about money, further education and academia is the way to go, I have multiple friends with phds and they don't regret it. But if you have someone who's extremely intelligent and got an undergrad degree and now wants to start a family and make enough to provide for them in their 20s, a more conservative worldview, you're going to not go into academia and instead of going further into debt you're going to try to get a well-paying job that pays the bills. No one I know with a PhD had kids before 30, which is pretty against the worldview of the average conservative.
Maybe, you know, things like science don't care about your political views and they're just wrong. Conservatives are the party of anti-vaxx, anti-evolution, etc. after all.
Reality has a left wing bias and professors teach in alignment with reality.
Not their fault that the conservative movement in the country has gone completely off the deep end in the last 50 years into total unreality, science denial, and anti-intellectualism
I agree that they did when I went to college as well, especially because they got all their news from TikTok and instagram. But I never had a professor knock off points for not liking my opinion.
Yea, me either. I also never had a professor try to push any of their political ideas onto me. I mainly took business classes, though, so that could be part of the reason.
Postmodernism is garbage, being indoctrinated by it has nothing to do with being closed or open minded.
It's absolute values versus a culture of anything-goes permissiveness... which sounds nice in the same way that being told you can eat all the food you want and never get fat sounds nice. Mentally comforting, physically destructive. In fact it's less of "indoctrination" and more of temptation to live in a way that has no standards.
Never heard of the march through the institutions?
At least when I was in college, they made us read books by open marxists and in order to get good grades in the class we had to agree with their point of view in papers and discussions.
Even if you think this is “intellectual diversity” I’d imagine you’d object to being forced to read anti trans literature and agree with the premises in papers to get an A
I’ve had 6 years of higher education and never had any experience like you’re talking about (forced to read Marxist literature and must agree with it for a good grade).
Yup, it’s a complete echo chamber on Reddit. Incredibly disingenuous. Full grace is given to any leftist/progressive-adjacent belief, while anything vaguely conservative is automatically assumed to be the ultimate evil in waiting.
The reality is I lived in places like San Francisco, Denver, and other traditionally progressive spots and the average person there is far less progressive and echo chambery than your average redditor. There is clearly a serious astroturfing and propaganda issue if a random sample size of American redditors are more progressive than the most progressive areas.
Many highly intelligent, successful, and empathetic people in real life are right wing. Though if you skimmed through Reddit you’d think the country is purely divided into rural mouthbreather caricatures and the superior coastal elite.
I also went to college and saw the pressure to be superficially progressive, but a lot of the time it’s just people paying lip service. Funny the things a drunk person will admit if you don’t act judgmental.
I’m guessing this happened to you one time because you had a god awful teacher or you misinterpreted why you got marked down (perhaps just saying actually wrong things framed as opinion) and you’re posing it as an example of the entire secondary education system
Yeah, thats bullshit. College campuses across the country are over 95% leftist. The idea that you are "bursting your bubble" while only hearing one side of the political spectrum is nonsense.
There are so many things wrong with the college system, the complete pollical one sidedness is just one of them. acting as if colleges are the end-all be all of intellectualism is just elitism/credentialism.
MAGAs are generally uneducated. That’s simple fact. When I went to college in the 80s the split between democrats and republicans was pretty close to 50/50. That’s because republicans at the time were capable of logical thought. I was a Reagan democrat and voted for the elder Bush. But many of the conservative cornerstones that were the pillars of republicanism then, particularly libertarianism, were abandoned by the MAGA movement in favor of a zealous adherence to all things Trump says. That kind of blind following is only possible to the uneducated and the ignorant. That’s why MAGAs are anti-education.
I never heard political views while in college. I did hear my professors talk about how we should help others, we should respect others, and we should work to come together as a community in the world. These concepts align much better with liberal views than conservative ones.
Beyond this, learning about history of how horribly segregated the country is, which conservatives have been campaigning to hide
That was exactly my college experience, at a private southern catholic university of all places. It's the first time many kids see that their parents aren't perfect all knowing beings and get to exposed to people of different backgrounds and statuses. The world opens up.
College campuses across the country are over 95% leftist.
You are absolutely clueless.
acting as if colleges are the end-all be all of intellectualism is just elitism/credentialism.
Well you're free to go to an uncredited "university" like Trump University, but you're wasting your money and going to end up having to sue to get it back.
As it turns out, educational institutions are accredited and those accreditations audited regularly for a reason.
Maybe the fact that everyone who actually is seeking, or already has a higher education tends to be left leaning should give you something to think about regarding your political opinion....
the only diversity that exists is political i guess lmao! i also like how you never even considered it might be because leftist views are, in fact, more sophisticated and aligned with reality.
The soft sciences are 90%+ leftists with significant drops as you move into STEM, engineering and business.
The fact is that yes, there is a leftist capture of campuses which leads to the indoctrination of children by tenured professors pushing fluff studies so admins can suck more loan money from the govt teat.
The soft sciences are 90%+ leftists with significant drops as you move into STEM, engineering and business.
Almost as if studying the way that society works makes you more able to understand how unfair and repressive it currently is and the ways it needs to change in order to be better for everyone
The fact is that yes, there is a leftist capture of campuses which leads to the indoctrination of children by tenured professors pushing fluff studies so admins can suck more loan money from the govt teat.
And what's your evidence for that?
Edit: Since, for whatever reason, I can't directly respond to u/Sideswipe0009, I'll edit my response to their reply to this comment in here instead
You can find oppression pretty much anywhere you look if you see it from a certain perspective and/or incorrectly determine the root cause.
I don't think people involved in the Humanities and Social Sciences are just making shit up. It's their job to study how social sciences work. If they wanted to make up oppression, they'd be Evangelical Pastord or Right Wing Pundits.
In the 80s through the early 00s, Republicans were the more educated political group and campuses were more ideologically balanced.
As campus faculty became more left leaning, so did the student body.
This isn't evidence, but rather a single data point, so it does lend credence to the idea.
That was before the Republican Party openly embraced anti-intellectualism. Another factor to consider is that the majority of lower-income voters who couldn't afford to go to college voted Democratic back then, while the Democratic Party has been doing everything it can to lose them since at least the 2010s.
A lot has changed. I don't see any reason for college-educated people to support a political party that openly mocks them for being educated and rejects scientific facts that have been consensus in their fields for decades.
Quite frankly it was a lot easier to be an educated and informed person who voted Republican back in the 80s-00s.
Not true at all. I have two degrees and on countless occasions I was given the choice between agreeing with the professor's opinions (always left-wing) and getting a bad grade. By my last year I didn't care about being PC anymore and just started openly disagreeing with them - my GPA plummetted.
I wanna know exactly what he means by not caring about being PC and disagreeing with the professors.
Like dude, were you engaging in good faith arguments that were valid? Or is it the more likely scenario that this dude felt jilted nobody agreed with him so he was a pompous ass?
What if, maybe, his own original thoughts were just ass?
I graduated from a good college 2 years ago, and I can say for sure that while I learned a lot of useful information, Universities are a laboratory of leftwing ideologies. Every professor I’ve had after listening enough it’s very obvious are liberals, although some are more obvious and preachy and others keep it to themselves. And history classes teach about a dark and evil America with deep root in slavery and colonialism. Racist, and teaching a worldview of women in history being oppressed. Nothing positive about humanity or democracy. Much of it is true, but looking at a glass half empty. Every few weeks there is a new protest on campus, not about important problems in America, but pro-Palestinian demonstrations or Antireligion protests for something happening 10K miles away
Or teens and young adults are being manipulated by a CCP monitored social media platforms. That’s not a conspiracy, it’s actually happening. Also the university center was infiltrated long ago by Soviet sympathizers and communists, which is also not a conspiracy as it was confirmed by ex-KGB. That doesn’t mean that conservatives aren’t anti-intellectual, but it does mean the intellectuals have their own dogma that’s as hurtful to America as conservatism, if not more hurtful.
I'm probably gonna be downvoted for this, but I'm gonna come out and say I used to be heavily left leaning, and after reading through so much reddit echo chamber nonsense, as well as actually spending the time to meet people from all walks of life, I can honestly tell you that there are idiots on both sides. It just so happens to me that the worst ones I've met are left leaning.
Why? Because the actual leftists in our country (those who subscribe to communist beliefs), don't really try to work and are actively kidnapping people and demanding "donations" from them but won't let them go if their family doesn't "donate" to the NPA cause.
Read articles on New People's Army in the philippines if you don't believe me. There were even westerners who were kidnapped, raped, tortured, and much worse.
Believe it or not, the situation of left vs right wing in America isn't as violent as media portrays it to be and there's so much nuance to this discussion that redditors often ignore.
Ps: (I am not american. I come from a 3rd world country)
Yeah but the Philippines is uniquely aggressive with kidnappings. It’s kind of all around the board there. Im the US, we just do fraud and murder if you’re in the illegal drug business.
"Lately." This has been the MO for the entire existence of the ideology. Progress has always been fearmongered by the regressives regardless of what they call themselves.
That’s right everyone, college is bad and you’re too dumb for this job so we are either gonna offshore it or give it to a H1B Visa depending on the market.
Hmm. When the on-campus democratic socialists tried to disallow a right-leaning writer to speak and that didn’t work, they had the school cancel her meet and greet to allow the DSs to have a panel discussing her points. She wasn’t invited.
Anecdotal evidence, sure, but better than hypothetical
"It's not the professors" yet liberals professors outnumber conservative professors 12 to 1. If I hear the same perspective from 12 of my 13 professors I'm going to naturally graduate with a bend in the direction of the 12. Even if you like that idea you can't pretend there isn't a massive indoctrination effect.
In the four years I went, multiple history classes, not one professor spoke positively about socialism/Marxism. In fact, every history class that went over communist countries also covered the poverty and death. My topology professor gave exactly zero lectures on how bad capitalism is. My psychology professor assigned exactly zero assignments about dialectical materialism.
In highschool, we read some of "The Bible as literature." Ditto for the Quran. Guess what? At the end of that semester, I was still an atheist, and I didn't know one classmate that changed their religious views.
You all make it sound like all professors are constantly talking about government, politics, culture, and economic classes. They're not.
Was I more of a libertarian before I went to college? Yes. But it wasn't college that changed me. It was working my part time job at a major retail chain and seeing capitalism in action. It was receiving urgent care bills for short, minor visits when I had no insurance. That was the beginning.
I mean, these are the kinds of people who think merely seeing a gay man on television will turn their kids gay, so they may indeed think that learning that Marxism exists turn people into communists.
FRFR. Talking with random people irl at bar and stuff is a dice roll of whether I'm gonna meet a cool person or someone who's brain has been rotted by right-wing trash politics.
I graduated college in May of last year and my family threw a graduation party for me. My aunt and her partner were two of the guests. My aunt's partner asked me what I studied, so I told him (psychology at a CSU). Being a Trump supporter, he replied something along the lines of "oh, so they brainwashed you?"
Also when you learn about science you can no longer believe in creationism. When you learn about sociology you can no longer believe trans people don't exist. When you learn about history you can no longer ignore the fact that America genocided and enslaved people for hundreds of years.
It turns out right-wing conservative beliefs are inconsistent with having knowledge of the world.
I grew up Mormon in an EXTREME echo chamber, and this is what happened to me exactly- even at BYU which is owned by the church. I had some good teachers in high school and college who taught about difficult US history, the reality of evolution, and the wide array of beliefs and ways of thinking in the world. Those things took courage to teach in that culture.
I remember one day I went to Biology where the professor talked about how it’s just real, and we need to learn it as part of God’s method of creation. The next class was a religion class (required every semester) and the professor handed out sheets with a quote from some apostle talking about evolution being a lie. When you deal with that level of cognitive dissonance on a daily basis is tends to have an ontological impact.
It's also why cities vote more left than rurals. We don't live in bubbles and we're not as xenophobic because we're always exposed to other types of people. We also recognize that we have to function as a team to survive where small towns are very "fuck you, I've got mine" communities.
So, the curriculum being fed to the children isn't an issue?
Here's the thing: most of these people have agendas and want to spew it onto all of you. Critical thinking is a must in this new age of misinformation, propoganda and agenda peddling. There are apologetics classes on every single agenda (from politics to religion), designed to sway you with their words, not facts. The younger generation has its work cut out for it. This is rough. A sea of information surrounding you with static and you won't know at face value whats actually even true. 😬
Yeah if you've ever taken a college level English or other class where you need to argue your point, you'd know that critical thinking skills is how you accomplish that. And guess what school is for? Developing the knowledge and experience to analyze the world around you and determine for yourself what it means, aka critical thinking.
There's a reason why more educated people are liberal vs less educated being conservative and it's not because colleges brainwash you into being a liberal lmao
What do you mean "lately"? The Republican Party in the US at least has been the little more than the party of Irrational White Fear and Blind Wealth Worship at least since Nixon?
As someone in university right now, i have absolutely had multiple teachers very openly plugging their left leaning views, and shitting on any opposing views. I go to a more red college for my state, but it is still very much not accepted for someone to have moderate right wing views, meanwhile leftists can shout the most extreme of their beliefs and they are fine.
When students know they need to parrot their professor's political beliefs to protect their grade, it is the University that is doing the spoon feeding.
It's fun when the generation responsible for the largest drop in literacy rate of the last 50+ years yaps on about anti-intellectualism. Yall can't even spell 4 letter words
It's true in one way, trying to tell that a lot of major are simply bullshit isn't a wrong statement either.
Someone that i know actually did something intellectually challenging and want to advance the world sure, Someone that tells me they got a PHD in gender studies to end up being professor of the same shit later i'm really not sure the value those have for society.
it's not even about political compass at this point, but there way too much shit taught in colleges that are at best a waste of taxpayers money, at worst an active effort to force a lot of BS jobs on the market that will never fill, trap students with debt and actually make them even more miserable afterward.
Not even talking about the racial profiling to get gov funds.
Edit: The popular belief that getting a degree makes you automatically a smarter person that the one that doesn't isn't helping either, the number of people i've worked with that are as dumb or even worse than no degree ones is way more common than people think.
There was a time not that long ago that questioning was a good thing. My son leaned Republicans and wanted to go into the oil and gas business. He got into Texas A&M engineering to major n chemical engineering. About three years in, he changed his mind and went the environmental route. He now has a masters in Environmental Public Health. The conservative campus changed him.
When your only window of reality is through the lens of Fox News or alt right influencers, it's pretty easy to slowly build up a view of the world that is completely warped from the truth.
Living in the real world and having to struggle to survive, around other people who are struggling to survive, while life is coming at you at full force constantly with no breaks, all those real world experiences have made it impossible for me to ever rely on some think tanks for the truth
Colleges aren't exactly the best place for gathering diverse viewpoints. Most college students only understand surface level issues, but not deep and nuanced topics. The professors and students you meet at college are likely going to share strongly left-wing viewpoints which is not exactly "stepping out of their bubble." You want to step out of the bubble? Travel around the country or talk to people on different political forums. Talk to people on all sides of the political aisle and you'll start to realize that college students and professors do not reflect the overall opinions of most Americans.
Most of you will become conservative. Not too long ago millenials were out at movements like Occupy Wall Street and today their politics are much different. Same will happen to you in time. You realize the real world is a little different from what you’re told once you break into it. That slowly changes you. Thats called reality.
Okay that is plain copium. There is definitely a big wave of left brainwashing in the universities. Like you have to legit go through university blind to not see it.
After I went to university suddenly the student body cancelled tried cancelling any non left groups, the professors told student they will have to use certain pronouns. Christian University groups didn't get their activities approved.
We had one professors speaking against the violent nature of the climate protesters in my country (not even climate change itself) and legit his children got threatened. They tried to silence him immediately cause he didn't follow the hive mind.
Don't speak about intellectualism when you so clearly love in a bubble. And the university I went to wass far more moderate than your average American one xD.
One of the major objectives of university education is to foster the ability to think critically. This isn’t that ability people are born with; you have to learn it.
If you’re unable to engage in critical thinking yourself, then critical thinking will look a lot like indoctrination.
Plus college teaches you the importance of research and verifying facts and sources. You don’t really have to do that if you never take college level classes or never leave your hometown. You can just stay in your bubble and believe things you don’t like cause they play on your biases.
Yeah. I went to a private Christian college that offered me a scholarship and lemme tell ya it was pretty damn conservative to the point where right wingers came to campus to give presentations and one of the professors was a former leader of the Freedom Foundation. Hell, there was even a large protest group of students and faculty at the local pride festival yelling at families just trying to enjoy the festivities.
And yet, 3 years later, I’m more liberal than ever. I met other people like me and was able to see through the indoctrination that had been forced on me since I was a baby. And it wasn’t the professors. Fuck, a lot of them tried to get people like me expelled bc they were open about their nonconformity. That’s not right, and I saw that more and more as I continued learning and living in a conservative paradise. Anyone or anything different is bad, and that’s why they try to “conserve” what they think is under attack when really their fear of change turns them into the attackers
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