r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 14 '19

Lootbox bundles are now banned in /r/GameDeals

1.3k Upvotes

Starting today, we'll be removing lootbox bundles in /r/GameDeals. That is, bundles which give a randomized and individual game key to buyers.

Lootbox bundles are being specifically addressed because they represent an unknown value, and because they encourage repeated purchases. Rather than getting a dud bundle once, buyers are encouraged to try many times to get what they're actually interested in.

As of today, Fanatical and GMG's mystery key bundles will no longer be allowed to be posted. The Humble Bundle Monthly and Groupees' bundles will not be affected because they are not lootbox-style (everybody receives the same content).

Before we jump into the comments, I think it's important to explain why it took so long to reach this decision.

Large policy decisions like this require a strong consensus. For obvious reasons, we shouldn't introduce major rule changes without ample consideration. As our moderator team is spread across the globe however, getting everybody together to work out all the issues and edge cases can take a long time. It took multiple attempts and rescheduling to finally get this one right.

Additionally, this is a surprisingly complicated issue. The initial complaint being raised wasn't just of lootbox bundles, but blind bundles of any sort. Many users had concerns about encouraging gambling, and in theory this would apply to any bundle with unknown elements. That's Humble Monthly, Groupees pre-purchases, and of course Fanatical's mystery bundles. There was a lot to unpack.

We decided that the gambling concern is at its worst when bundles are designed to encourage not just one purchase, but many, as lootbox-style bundles are. And while there is still uncertainty to more traditional blind bundles such as the Humble Monthly, the information available often lets you make a more educated decision ahead of time.

When all is said and done, this is a compromise. There is no perfect solution because everyone has different reasons for liking or disliking blind bundles. For some it's the uncertainty aspect. For others it's frustration that they're not receiving the same games as others. We did our best to identify the major pain points and reach a decision that suits the majority.

We know that there was value in seeing which games other users were getting. While we won't be hosting a place for that anymore, we can recommend SteamGifts as a forum which covers this same information. I know it's frustrating not having that deal information all on one site, but having a topic for sharing results is really no different than just linking the deals in the first place.

We thank you for your time and understanding. This has been a - shall we say - contentious topic. For that reason we'll be strictly enforcing rule #1: be kind in this thread. We welcome your thoughts on the matter though, and ask that you recognize that there was no perfect solution in this case.

Thank you.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 22 '17

The Steam Summer Sale's Bargain Bin: $3 and under titles that I think you should probably buy, like, right now

517 Upvotes

I've posted my list of $3 and under titles in the hidden gems thread for the past two sales and people seemed to like it; however, many of these titles are not actually hidden gems at all, so I've decided to create a separate post this sale.

These are all games that I've enjoyed and believe to be well worth their price points. All are under $3. Bolded titles are games that I really loved. Italicized titles have been newly added to this list. I don't like recommending games that I haven't played, so if if the list is missing ___, it is probably because I haven't played it.

Edit: Added a few titles and fixed a few errors.

Edit 2: Added more titles and a list of games that just miss the $3 mark.

Metroidvania

RPG/Action-RPG

Rogue-lites/Rogue-likes

Action/Action-Platformer

Puzzle/Puzzle-Platformer

Strategy/TD/RTS

Adventure/Point & Click

Sim/Other

SHMUP

Multiplayer

Just misses the $3 limit, but get it anyway:


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 24 '21

Steam Summer Sale 2021 || Hidden Gems Thread

450 Upvotes

Yep, we're doing this again! Post the best deals you can find on your favorite lesser-known titles!


r/GameDealsMeta • • Apr 05 '23

Groupees.com is now banned in /r/GameDeals

431 Upvotes

As of today, we will no longer be allowing posts relating to Groupees in /r/GameDeals. We have evidence that they are no longer sourcing all of the game titles through authorized means.

As some of you may be aware, Groupees changed ownership last year and began selling bundles again in earnest. Some users began reporting issues regarding delayed key delivery, and given the new ownership, we wanted to verify their stock was obtained according to our standards. We contacted Groupees directly but did not receive any response at the time of this post.

We also reached out to a number of developers and publishers to query if an official relationship existed between them and Groupees. While we're awaiting responses from a number of them, five have already replied and confirmed that they are not partnered with Groupees and had no awareness of their games appearing on Groupees. We also sent keys from a sample purchase we did on Groupees to the relevant developers, and at least two of the keys were originally from Humble Choice bundles. These were smaller developers we contacted, and not first tier support of a large publisher who may not be aware of all partnerships of their company.

Given this information, we will be banning all Groupees bundles from submission to /r/GameDeals as they are effectively engaging in grey-market reselling, which we have long taken a very strong stance against. While it isn't illegal for Groupees to do this, /r/GameDeals requires sites to have official relationships with developers and publishers, either directly or through authorized distributors like Nexway.

We thank you for your understanding.
GameDeals mods


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 08 '23

GameDeals Joins the Blackout for Third-Party App Support

419 Upvotes

GameDeals has a tradition of maintaining a neutral position in larger site matters. We act as a resource for gamers, and our concerns do not typically intersect with larger site issues. However, we need to recognize that we are still a part of the reddit platform, and the issues being raised do affect us.

With that in mind, we have decided to blackout for two days in solidarity with other subreddits starting on June 12th.

Why is /r/GameDeals doing this?

We believe that the API policy changes will significantly impact users and moderators alike

The primary concern currently raised is that of third-party apps. These apps are essential tools for moderating on mobile, which is how many mods - including some of our own - interact with the site. They also offer improved support for accessibility services, a reduction in user tracking, and a more pleasant interface for regular browsing.

Reddit is not threatening to eliminate these apps completely, but they have proposed a prohibitory pricing scheme that achieves the same result. The new API fees for popular apps like Apollo are in excess of $20 million per year. This is effectively a death knell.

Therefore, we strongly disagree with this change. Third-party apps are often used by those most dedicated to the site, and contribute in the way of posting new comments, sharing links, and moderating content. By eliminating third-party apps, reddit is cutting off a percentage of its own value creators.

What does /r/GameDeals want to see changed?

We want Reddit to work with third-party apps to compromise on a solution

We acknowledge that maintaining an API does have associated costs. They are certainly not on the order of what is being proposed, but until now the API has been free to use. With that in mind, we urge reddit to open a dialogue with app creators to find a compromise that benefits all parties involved. We ask the following:

  • Should users who already pay for Reddit Platinum not be exempt from additional monetization? It seems only fair that third-party app users receive the same benefit as official platforms.

  • How can apps be better optimized to reduce API requests? This is in reddit's interest as much as app authors'.

  • Can reddit's own ads be made available via API? Nobody likes ads, but given the choice, many choose to pay with attention over dollars.

  • These new API limits costs may be designed to target other abusers, such as recent machine learning efforts. Can special pricing be created for third-party app authors that are more realistic to their costs?

We feel that between these considerations, there is enough room for a solution that satisfies all parties.

To be clear, reddit's initial proposal is completely out of proportion to what is considered reasonable. This may be so they can come back to the table with a reasonable-sounding offer later. We're recognizing their concerns, but not asking to simply meet in the middle.

For many users, a monthly subscription will be enough to end viability of third-party apps regardless of its price. That's why we suggest supporting alternative mechanisms like reddit-provided ads (within reason), exclusions for reddit platinum, and a genuine effort by developers to improve the efficiency of their apps.

Regarding mod bots, and reddit's overall direction

We rely on many bots and tools behind the scenes to make GameDeals moderation smoother. However, it is our opinion at this time that mod bots are not at risk from these API changes. Reddit's messaging has been very direct that they do not wish to disrupt API use for mod bots. While it is tempting to be skeptical of these claims, the diminutive cost of supporting these bots is outweighed by the value they provide. We're concerned that by focusing too much on this issue, it gives reddit an "out" by satisfying an easy demand, without focusing on the larger issue which is the threat to third-party apps.

We still hold concern for the general direction of the site. Reddit was once open-source and accepting of community contributions. Today it's closed off, the API is receiving few of the new features being introduced, and many of them are proprietary to the official app. There's been a constant shift away from open development and towards the closed silos favoured by other social media. This in itself provides a concern for moderators, as expressed by the creators of ModToolbox and Reddit Enhancement Suite.

Final thoughts

Sometimes in GameDeals, we like to believe we live on an island. Our reader base is disproportionally made up of desktop users, and of those roughly half still use old reddit. As a result it may seem like these issues do not affect us, but they do. Every change that leaves something broken in old reddit, or excludes a new feature from the API, has a small but permanent effect on us. This current attack on third-party apps is just one more step towards closing up the ecosystem, and it's one that affects both our readers and moderators.

So that is why we are participating in the blackout. We feel it is an important issue that affects all of us.

The next question is, "for how long?". We were admittedly very conflicted on this topic. We wished to maintain our historical neutrality, but also recognized the importance of this issue. We felt two days was not impactful enough, but wanted to minimize harm to our readers who use our subreddit as a resource. As is often the case there is no perfect solution, but we agreed that the suggested two days still allowed for our voices to be heard, and for the point to be made effectively.

We know that everybody has been overwhelmed with these blackout notices over the last few days, but we hope to have offered a unique perspective with some meaningful suggestions. It's our sincere hope that reddit's administrators will consider these ideas, and make a good-faith effort to dialogue with developers so reddit can continue to be a sustainable platform for users, devs, and mods alike.

Thank you.


June 14th Edit

The subreddit is once again open after the initial blackout period. Thanks to everybody for their patience. Unfortunately, we do not feel that the admins have yet made any positive steps towards remediating our concerns discussed in this post. While the subreddit remains open for now, we are still considering participating in future blackouts and other actions in conjunction with other subreddits. We will share more information as it becomes available. Thank you.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Dec 22 '16

[STEAM] Winter Sale Hidden Gems Thread

406 Upvotes

r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 25 '19

[Steam] Summer Sale 2019 | Hidden Gems Thread

386 Upvotes

The best deals of the sale aren't always the ones on the front page. Post your best deal findings and personal recommendations here!


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 25 '20

[Steam] Summer Sale 2020 | Hidden Gems Thread

384 Upvotes

It's that time again! Post your favorite finds that might get lost under the deluge of deals.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jan 21 '20

Wholesome Competition

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294 Upvotes

r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 23 '22

Steam Summer Sale 2022 (Hidden Gems)

290 Upvotes

As usual, let's track any hidden gems in this year's summer sale.

Edit: These are the ones I personally got as part of this sale:

RITE is a high-speed, precision platformer where you must conquer a series of challenging trials, a rite of passage for every Nim.

Thy Sword is a hack n' slash platformer with procedural levels and roguelike elements.

Micro Mages is a platformer developed for the original 8-bit NES console. Now on Steam! ROM included. Play solo or with up to 4 players simultaneously. Compete over score or cooperate to overcome challenging levels.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 26 '25

[Steam] Summer 2025 Hidden Gems Thread

285 Upvotes

Its that time of year again!

Share the lesser known games here!

Previous threads:


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 27 '24 Heart of Silver

[Steam] Summer 2024 Hidden Gems

279 Upvotes

Its that time of year again.

SteamDB’s Sale Tracker is a good resource for finding deals.

Previous Threads:


r/GameDealsMeta • • Dec 19 '24 Polished Silver Turd

[Steam] Winter 2024 Hidden Gems Thread

274 Upvotes

Its that time of year again!

Share the lesser known games here!

Previous threads:


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 22 '17

[Steam] Summer Sale 2017 | Hidden Deals Thread

272 Upvotes

Here's a thread for those great deals that aren't yet displayed in the daily feature of the Steam summer sale.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Nov 21 '18

[Steam] Autumn Sale 2018 | Hidden Deals Thread

269 Upvotes

The best deals of the sale aren't always the ones on the front page. Post your finds here!


r/GameDealsMeta • • Nov 25 '20

[Steam] Autumn Sale 2020 | Hidden Gems Thread

265 Upvotes

It's that time again! Post your suggestions for games on sale we might otherwise miss.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jun 21 '18

[Steam] Summer Sale 2018 - Hidden Gems

263 Upvotes

It's that time of year again, folks. Use this thread to post any great deals that may fly under the radar for the Summer Sale.


r/GameDealsMeta • • May 08 '18

Announcing Green Man Gaming's return to GameDeals

257 Upvotes

We’re happy to announce that Green Man Gaming deals will once again be included in GameDeals.

Over the past two months the GameDeals mods and Green Man Gaming have been engaged in talks, and have agreed (following a lengthy product source verification process) that Green Man Gaming will return to the GameDeals subreddit.

We know this is big news for many, and we're just as excited as you are.

Green Man Gaming has completed GameDeals' rigorous verification process and proven they obtain their keys directly from over 750 publishers. We're delighted that these deals can once again be shared with the GameDeals community.

If you have any questions or just want to welcome them back, Green Man Gaming's new rep /u/GMG_Stark will be hanging around today to say hello.

Thank you.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jan 10 '26

Humble Bundle is in the Process of Silently Expiring/Revoking Many Unredeemed Keys (Even Revealed Ones)

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254 Upvotes

This information is being tracked here: https://github.com/AlexanderTheGrey/humble-bundle-redemption-issues

Anyone buying from Humble Bundle should know that new bundles containing titles marketed with expiration dates (like the recent encore bundles) usually causes the same titles in older bundles to get updated to expire as well. So if you purchased a bundle with titles that had no expiration, and those titles appear in future bundle with expirations, then most of those keys now expire on a similar date, even though they never did when you first bought them (going back years). This is not an exact formula, since there's plenty of other retroactively expiring keys under other circumstances (random/unknown reasons). I'm tracking at least 150+ retroactive expirations (the real number is likely way higher), and this will eventually lead to the expiration/revocation of most keys you purchased on Humble Bundle. Humble Monthly and Choice keys are usually exempt from this practice (I have no idea why). I fail to see how it's legally justifiable for publishers to revoke keys at such a large scale when the keys never had expirations upon purchase.

In summary:

  • Retroactive Expiration: When a title appears in a new bundle with an expiration date (such as with these encore bundles), most keys (revealed or not) for that same game in your older bundles often inherit that new deadline, despite never having an expiration when purchased. Post-purchase expirations have also been added to keys at random. This happens even if they were bought years ago without limits. This is obviously a totally not corrupt business deal between Humble Bundle and the publishers (Humble agreeing to allow the expiration of old keys to get better terms).

  • Platform Swapping: Unredeemed Steam keys are quietly being swapped for Epic or GOG keys, or simply never restocked (there's still 100+ exhausted keys).

  • No Warning: They do not email you when these retroactive expirations are added because the publishers want this to be silent and not give you a chance to reveal your keys (so they can recycle them, since revocation risks Valve not issuing them more keys on Steamworks). Humble Support may not offer compensation and gaslight you into believing the keys had expiration from the date of purchase.

If you have old, unredeemed Humble Bundle keys (most people in the PC gaming community do), nearly all of them are going to retroactively expire and be revoked in a very short period of time if this practice continues.

Recommendation: Go through your library and reveal your keys immediately. It is much harder/riskier for publishers to revoke or recycle keys once they have been allocated to your account (keys listed as "expired" on your HB purchase page have to be manually revoked, and revealed keys can be retrieved via a HB account data export). And always adjust the sliders to give Humble Bundle and the offending publishers $0 (or the minimum amount, i.e. max to charity) if you decide to buy a bundle they're participating in.

There's tracking of exactly which publishers do this so you can make informed purchasing decisions.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Dec 21 '17

[Steam] Winter Sale 2017 - Hidden Gems Thread

248 Upvotes

It's that time of year again, folks. Use this thread to post any great deals that may fly under the radar for the winter sale.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Nov 21 '23

[Steam] Autumn Sale 2023 | Hidden Gems Thread

239 Upvotes

It's that time of the year again! Post your best deal discoveries that might otherwise slip under the radar.

As always, SteamDB is an excellent tool for finding new record lows and other good deals.


r/GameDealsMeta • • Jul 23 '24

Humble Games has reportedly collapsed, with all its team laid off, according to employees posting on LinkedIn and Twitter.

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238 Upvotes

r/GameDealsMeta • • Nov 22 '22

[Steam] Autumn Sale 2022 | Hidden Gems Thread

230 Upvotes

It's that time of year again! Come share the best discounts you can find on games that folks might otherwise miss out on!


r/GameDealsMeta • • Mar 13 '25

Steam Spring Sale 2025 Hidden Gems

228 Upvotes

I didn't see a thread so...

Mostly roguelikes:

Aotenjo: Infinite Hands: mahjong + Balatro

Cat God Ranch: Animals + Luck Be a Landlord

Diceomancer: Deckbuilder with some cool dice mechanics

Dungeon Clawler: Claw machine dungeon battler

Epic Auto Towers: Tower defense + deckbuilder

Thronefall: Stylish base defender

Kill Knight: Score attack, also stylish

Roots of Yggdrasil: Viking themed city/card builder

Feed the Deep: Underwater explorer from Fruit Ninja dev

Dawnmaker: Board game-like engine builder

Cataclismo: Base defense from Moonlighter dev, 1.0 next week

Galactic Glitch: Space shooter with physics

Rack and Slay: Pool meets dungeon crawling

Go!