Whenever Eric goes on rants like this, they end up deleted. He swore he was getting new wheel sets and tires multiple times, and each time he has gone and spent the money on hotels, cigarettes, prescription medication, food and amusements instead. The constant lying and excuses getting SO DAMN OLD. If he actually cared about a budget as he claims here, he wouldn't have bought a puppy that comes with hundreds of dollars of associated costs (they didn't even rescue it from a pound; he admitted he got it from a private owner, likely a breeder). If they had a budget, they'd prioritize wheels that would get Eric across the country as promised, rather than buying Angie a SECOND bike to destroy.
Even more disgusting is the fact that there was a very positive, constructive thread about volunteering opportunities near New Orleans - something he said he wanted to do as part of the trip - and it was deleted. All claims of wanting to "give back" are absolutely worthless and are only meant to entice Care Bears to throw more money into the bottomless pit.
Sorry I don't have an imgur account to do screengrabs and I know this is long, but here are the budget-related comments for posterity. I think it's important to save this stuff because otherwise Eric & Angie get to write the whole story themselves - mostly through omission.
DK: Partied too hard in the big easy did we?
Fat Guy Across America> Actually, I don't drink. Taking care of a few things today and looking to possibly get new tires today and some more spare spokes.
DK: Me neither. Get yourself some road friendly tires makes a huge difference having less rolling resistance.
Fat Guy Across America: That's what I'm hoping to find locally
Fat Guy Across America: Front tire only have 400 miles or so and is already bald, the back tire is showing lots of wear and I got it in destin
DK: I got specialized tires last spring and have 2000+ miles on them with no signs of wear.
Fat Guy Across America: That's cool, my conti's held up well, but when the tubes blew the side walls blew out, so I assume I put a lot of stress on the sidewalls.
JB: Remind me: weren't you having new tires/wheels built and shipped to you a few weeks back?
Fat Guy Across America: No, I was looking for the hubs and parts to get to velocity so they can build the rims. I said once I save enough I was going to get tires ordered and sent.
ReneeRS: Fat Guy Across America are the tires you need special order, or something you can get at the bike shop. Its a shame, when you road to NOLA you were good, did the tires go bad over the weekend? But if there is a delay, a lot of posts about volunteering sounds pretty intriguing!
Fat Guy Across America: I've been talking about getting tires for a while actually. And some.carry them some dont. The wider tires like I need are not usually a in stock item, but I'm taking a look.
JB: Fat Guy Across America That's disappointing. I remember you got a pretty hefty donation right around then. Two, if I recall. That wasn't enough to cover them?
Fat Guy Across America: I guess you missed the whole problem with gofundme.
[The "problem" with gofundme is utterly irrelevant, because he had already been given thousands and thousands of dollars, none of which was spent on getting the tires with high spoke-count that he was advised to get, for most of the last year.]
Fat Guy Across America: And even then, there are other expenses involved in the trip such as gas for the rv and generator, meds, spare parts for bike, etc. We have to budget for down the road too. So not every cent can be put aside for just bicycle. But like I said we are putting the parts together for the order of the rims. And putting some aside for the tires too.
ReneeRS: I know you are only using PayPal now after the GFM problems but they have not frozen any more have they ? Are you able to keep all the GFM that was donated before u switched?
SH: What size are your tires? 26" or bigger?
Fat Guy Across America: 29
Fat Guy Across America: Still working on the last few
MissyB: Eric sweetie I know I ramble on forever like an old lady lol but sometimes I get carried away but I keep telling you that if youd just tell us how much more you need to get to the $5000 to get across the rest of the country I'm sure that lots of people would step up to help. It would be a goal for all of us to know you had enough to finish the rest of your journey on your bike.
MajiD: Consider this suggestion please. You should make a list of the upcoming funds you need donations for. Knowing what the money is for might motivate more people to donate. People are more willing to give if they know what it's going for. It's better to have an itemized list than to make a general statement. Also this way it stops people from asking about where you spent the donations.
Fat Guy Across America: I had it listed in the gofundme site, nobody read that one, so it seems to be a waste of time. As for future expenses, I can guess some, others will be known when they come. As for right now, tires are between 60 and 100 from what I've found, I'm looking for local ones to avoid shipping, but may have to go that route.
[How strange, because I recall he had a specific price and a specific manufacturer at one point. That lasted long enough to get a few donations, and then was never mentioned again.]
Fat Guy Across America: Missy for that 5k I mentioned, at the moment we are sitting at about 800 out of that goal. So 4200 left. But I'm not pushing it, I'm just trying to go day by day for now and do what I can.
[Yeah, you're "not pushing" for donations at all. AT ALL. Click support the ride above!]
MajiD: That's not an itemized list though. It's a list, but not a very detailed one. If you had a list that said you're raising: (For Example) $200 for wheels, $300 for gas for X amount of time, and so on that tells people not only how much you need but what you need it for. Then when you get a $200 donation, you go get the wheels and take it off the list.
MajiD: Please don't get mad at me for saying this but what also could be more apparent is how much of this trip are you personally paying for? It seems like everyone else is paying for every expense of your trip. Who's paying for Maddy's food and healthcare? Who's paying for deodorant and shampoo and beauty products? What about toilet paper and paper towels? These are all expenses you should be paying for yourself but that's never been disclosed. You also should be paying for your medication yourself. So see if you itemize your expenses for the bike and get donations specifically for that then you'll have more money freed up to pay your part of the trip. grin emoticon
JB: Maji is absolutely right. It's apparent that you're just throwing a dollar figure out there without any itemized expenditures or estimated figures and it changes pretty frequently based on who is asking you a question at the time. If you want to be taken seriously and you want people to donate seriously, you need to have a spreadsheet of your estimated expenses and what you need the donations for. $5000 does not seem like enough is $800 didn't even cover the wheels because you had to take care of RV costs. If I were you, I'd sit down and seriously plan this out because it doesn't seem like you've done that and it's almost a year into this now. Sorry, mate, but you can't keep asking people for money if you're not going to do your part.
DK: Thanks for hijacking my thread.
Fat Guy Across America: As for my fundraising, I did say it was for everything including medical and everything involved with this trip. All of that is included in this trip. Now personal entertainment, that is different, we either have to sell something, or do some side work for Angies parents or work out something to get money from home for that sort of thing unless it is directly related to something with the story. Such as a grand Canyon tour down the road as a future example. That is part of the story. They money that is raised pays for all aspects, food, clothing, deodorant, gas, tires tubes, whatever is needed to support the trip. If we can pay another way, we do. If we cant, we rely on sponsored monies. Some of you don't understand the trip at all and only think it's a simple bicycle trip. Yes, I am conveyed from east coast to west coast on a bicycle. But there is so much more to the trip than that, and that has been the same since the beginning. It has never changed, and in every I state the same thing. Which im not going to repeat again. Just go to the info page above, or to www.fatguyacrossamerica.com and read the story and my goals. Nobody is forced to help at all. If I don't get funding, I have to find other ways. If I don't get funding, it takes longer. When I have funding things run smoother, I have less to deal with as I don't have to be as creative solving problems. If I have funding I can take my bike to a shop and fix it, if not, I try to do it myself, which is not always the best idea. I try my best and learn along the way. But Wether it's an rv, a car, or a pull behind trailer, there will always be expenses involved with travel. Sometimes hotels, sometimes campgrounds, sometimes batteries for a beard trimmer. If it's helping me get from point a to point b and is allowing me to write my book, fix my soul and marriage and get Info to post or to wrote my book, then it's part of the trip.
[I'm not sure how him having a trimmed beard has anything to do with cycling. Or what "side work" they can do from Louisiana to Indiana. Or why he expects us to accept that his later edits to his mission that accounted for Angie's presence - with her very expensive (kibble) requirements - should be suddenly okay with prior donors. His mission statement and vague "budget" have changed COMPLETELY from the original iteration, and he gets enraged if you dare to point that out.]
Fat Guy Across America Project: Cycling for love and physical change. FGAA Facebook Explore FATGUYACROSSAMERICA.COM
Fat Guy Across America: It may not be the way you would do it, but it's a learning experience. And that experience is a lot of what this journey is all about. It's not how quick or efficient I get things done, it's that I'm doing it, I'm growing and learning, and by the end I hope to have learned quite a lot. I have certainly learned a lot about the Internet and how everyone is an expert and are always happy judging everything that someone is doing on their journey rather than looking at themselves and trying to fix their problem with trying to belittle and control others. I don't want to be that way. I want to support others and show others that if you keep trying you can meet your goals. And that if you just go out and take those steps, you can really do something. You don't have to do it the normal way, do it your way be true to yourself and not judge others. Like in the beginning I could not stand Taylor Swift, but now, I totally repsect her and understand where she is coming from lol. Why ya gotta be so mean . '-)
Fat Guy Across America: I said above the last few payments still in limbo. i've said many times the other money has trickled in and has been used as it came since june when it started.
[Bullshit. Those last few payments were self-payments to prime the pump. There's no way three strangers contributed about $1300 in the space of a week to this trainwreck. The "limbo" is probably just "Please refund me the 14% fee you took when I donated money to myself. Good luck with that.]
MajiD: I'm not being mean at all and I'm not telling you that you have to do it my way or no way. I'm giving you a suggestion based on years of being an adult that plans for things like trips and balances her checkbook. LOL I started my post out with the understanding that it was a Suggestion only. You could be gracious and just say "Thank you for the advice." Whether you take it or not is up to you, but YOU don't have to be rude back to me when I try to help you. I see you really struggling with finances and getting people to not only donate but stop harassing you about your finances so I offered some help to make it easier on you. You keep saying how hard it is for you that these people are coming down on you so hard but I've seen no sign that you're willing to change things to STOP them from doing it! You haven't even taken the advice given to you many times by so many followers and supporters to stop talking about them and answering them. Oh why did I even try to help. I've seen you do this to so many people that have tried to give you advice but I thought if I started it out with the disclaimer that it's just a suggestion you'd be more kind. Now I'm frustrated and upset because I really love what you're doing. It's like a friend just yelled at me. I'll come back later hopefully to an apology.
DK:how about those bike tires? 🙄
MajiD: And I have read your website many times. That's still not an itemized list no matter how often you insist it is.
MajiD: So there.
Fat Guy Across America: I wasn't trying to be rude to you, I was trying to explain to everyone because I know you are not the only one that says things so I took the opportunity to answer In general terms, so I'm sorry if it came.oit that way. Usually I would put the name of the person is if was directed to them only. So that I apologize for.
Fat Guy Across America: It's a general list, I would never be able to itemize future purchases and have any idea of everything needed in the future
[Aaaand that's why this will drag on and on and on. For as long as he can keep coming up with reasons to beg for more money - and avoid going home to Indiana to face their 5-figure debts - the shitshow will continue.]
Fat Guy Across America: Still trying to find a place that has the ones I need in stock. Mine are still rideable, but I do want to replace very soon. I may have to just order them.
CF: Eric Hites, it's called a budget. I would bet even the people who donate to you have one, you should too. It's what is keeping me from donating. There is no budget. I have to budget my money, and anyone I donate to, I have to see their budget. EVEN charities. I want to know where my money is going to.
Fat Guy Across America: I understand totally. I'm trying to get organized like that. I'm not good with that honestly. I wish I was, but I'm trying to get better with it.
[...tire discussion and advice from DianeP...]
Fat Guy Across America: I totally understand DianeP, I do try to listen to advice and even take it. Some advice I don't. I do my best and keep learning as I go though. But overall, I need to figure some things out on my own, or I'll never learn.
Well, you got one part right, Eric. You'll never fucking learn.