i dont know if she will read this but natalie im so sorry about what is going on. also im sorry if this is not alowed but i just want to say sorry to her. Natalie blocked me today on twitter- i dont know why for sure but im so sorry i never wanted to hurt her. natalie your my favrite youtuber and also watching your videos is how i found out im trans. i love you and im so sorry for whats going on. when i tweeted you that i was just trying to say how you were better then people on 4chan cuz i did use 4chan and it is awful people are so mean. i just wanted you to be ok but its in your personel life and im sorry if my post was bad or wrong i did not mean it like that at all but i see now that bringing that up evin to say how bad it is was not good of me cuz its your personel life and i dont know you for real- im so sorry natalie. you dont have to unblock me but i promise i did not mean anything bad natalie im so sorry and your still my favrite youtuber. i will try to be better like you always show us in your videos. no matter what the most inportent thing is that your happy and ok- but its not my busness and Natalie i am so sorry. <3 sending you lots of love and good wishes and im still a fan no matter what

(my post in other sub got removed and im blocked on twitter can some one please send this to her i just want to say im sorry Natalie if your reading this

I'm confused. Someone explain this to me, please.

I haven't really gotten into any other Youtube channels, most just seem kinda childish, so a new vid could be nice.

Something else—just gave her a search here on reddit and it looks like there's quite a lot of leftists making up weird accusations against her. It seems a bit similar to the way some conspiracy circles just keep spurting a constant stream of new conspiracy porn.

Like others, I have a bit of trouble getting into her newer vids. I'm old, and all this meme stuff just flies past me. I just discovered that when she say that "uw-uw" sound, it's a pronunciation of the "UwU" smiley. And I have to duck up sentences like "gaskeep gateboss girllight", "manlets" "I quit riding that brown tiger", "gay tangent", "Live laugh love that for her", "Leopards eating peoples faces party"

So I duck up those terms, and coldhardedly desciphers that this is Contrapoints being "funny". This unrelatable, alien humor just make me feel old, disconnected and out of touch with a web I no longer care for. I hate memes I hate social media, and if someone erased the web, I just wouldn't care much.

Dunno if you guessed where this is heading, but here it is: When people are having fun with memes, it makes me pretty darn envious.

So while I only chuckled once during the 1½ hour vid, the topic did hit a nerve. More so when I watched it a second time, taking notes.

This is the thing about Contrapoints new videos. They are vast; they take effort to fully grasp. And as much as she wallows in meme culture, the depth and seriousness of her videos goes directly against the shallow, nimble-brained nature of todays internet.

I saw a video titled "ContraPoints distorts Marxism to her giant audience."

When I say I watched it, I must admit that I kinda zoned out when the youtuber glossed over mass murder, because, evidently, true Maxists don't get hung up over a few gulags or whatever.

But I kinda almost watched it, and from what I saw, I wonder if the he had watched the Envy video all that closely.

The videos says that Contrapoints "distorts Marxism". But pretty early on (5:30) Contrapoints has this to say about the feeling of contempt for the unrelateable rich celebrities:

"Relateability is not a moral category. This is public relations, it's not ethics. And it definitely isn't socialism. Like, I'm pretty sure Karl Marx never said: 'The problem with the bourgeoisie is they're not relatable. They can't read the room and it isn't a good look. This should have stayed it the draft. #ToneDeaf'"

Seen through this lense, it seems like it isn't radical shifts towards socialism she is criticizing, but rather the mentality of wanting to get back on those unrelateable, rich assholes. I wonder if there is a term for that? Holy moe, there is: ENVY! Hey, that's the title of Contrapoints video!!!

Of course, it's pretty low-hanging fruit to criticize the youtuber for failing to grasp that this was all about envy, despite envy being the title of the video which itself was a feature-length examination of this very topic. But I wonder if many other viewers likewise fails to fully grasp all the nuances. After all, the youtube comments doesn't reflect any deeper contemplation than the comments on any random try-not-to-laugh video. (which I hate and despice. Again, "envy". How dare they have fun wrong.)

As I said, the video hit a nerve. Over the years, I have noticed some selfrighteous and petty sides of myself. Those sides go all the way back to my childhood and have influenced my life choices and view of the world. I had an awareness of it, but it was a bit undefinable. It is only after watching this youtube video that I was able to give it a label.

And I won't go any further into this. It is stil too embarassing. Let's talk about something, anything else. Incels! Yes, let's talk about those.

While everyone pretty much agree that Incels are a pathetic bunch, few manages to categorize this correctly as envy, something which has its own internal logic.

I think Nietche "slave morality" fitted horribly well with the mechanics of Incels. They are "oppressed" by their inability to get laid. Giving up on overcoming this, they abandon traditional macho values (strength, sexual conquest, athleticism) and instead create a "new morality" with its own vocabulary, defining themselves as ugly, weak and powerless.

Getting laid is pretty much what defines a man. So when men defines themselves as incels, they essentially give up trying to pass as a man, that is, a real man. This is not something one does at a whim.

Incels, like Nofabs and the entire spectrum of LGBTQ+, are often viewed as people who adapt a wacky lifestyle for attention points. Outsiders often fail to grasp that committing to a radical "lifestyle" doesn't come easily. It is spawned from something deeply rooted.

And when Incels commits themselves this deeply to resentment, it's pretty darn dangerous. Terrorism is often defined as using violence to reach political goal. But dictionary definitions are often just an attempt to give something fluffy and complex a simplistic, Twitter-length answer. In reality, terrorism often seem more like an act of resentment; we are opressed, we can't do anything about it, so there.

I know I just badmouthed dictionary definitions, but I think Contrapoints definition of incels is on point: "A moan of pain that masqurades as a political agenda".

At 35:34, a quote goes like this:

“This dominance of men by women is experienced by the men as real—emotionally real, sexually real, psychologically real; it emgerges as the reason for the wrath of the misogynist... The woman appears to control sex. The man needs it. This causes his rage at her percieved power over him.”

—Andrea dworkin,
Intercourse

So, the misogynist envies women because they ‘have’ what he wants: the power to decide whom he should fuck—the womans autonomy over her own body give her a power that is not his. Yup, I think this is core.

And surely, feeling wronged because a woman has autonomy over her own body is a bit low. But envy isn't about moral or ethics, it's about feelings, and those can go to some pretty weird places. As another quote go:

“It is peculiar to the ‘ressentiment criticism’ that it does not seriously desire that its demands be fullfilled. It does not want to cure the evil: the evil is merely a pretext for the criticism.”

—Max Scheler

Another quote:

“It’s hard being a woman. Not only are you being choked, you also feel guilty about it”

—Contrapoints

One thing that truly got to me was that Contrapoints had played Spyro the Dragon. See, I have this one on Xbox 360, and have never even tried it!

Okay, I'm clearly running out of steam with this post, which has pretty much taken me the entire day to write. So, yeah.

PS: Turns out the game I had was Blue Dragon, not Spyro the Dragon.

Or what is meant by it? Because technically aren't police trying to help and out effort into keeping stuff clean. Ofcourse there are plenty of rotten apples in the batch but I don't understand what the description is about if it is about anything I probably am unaware. Please explain

I tried checking out OKcupid, because it looked slightly more deep than the "swipe right if she's hot" approach of Tinder.

But seriously ... even if I'm not *that* drunk, I'm too drunk to decide if i want to date "Hijra" or "Transfeminine" ... whats the difference between "trans woman" and "trans feminine" anyhow?

Kinda cool that there's a "I'm open to anyone" checkbox.

But really ... not sure why I made this post. Just thought my attempt at dating had some comical implications.

this shouldn't be that complicated but apparently its something that is now wildly debated cough in other places cough

honk if you love nb ppl are think truscum are poopy heads

I'm currently 15 minutes in. Most of whatever meme stuff she pulled flew past me. Yeah, I'm old. Whenever someone talk about something BIG on Twitter, I feel like I'm stuck in an alternative reality.

But interesting topic nonetheless. I love her thing with taking a basic concept such an envy, and giving it a full-blown 1½ hour analysis.

Okay, back to watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbzT00Cyq-g&

tl;dw: Video explains how the sutures that hold the skull together don't actually fully fuse until late adulthood (60-70 years of age) and holding your tongue to the roof of your mouth with good tongue posture for 8hrs a day can strengthen the muscles and move the position of the bones in an adult's face, literally reshaping the skull and thus making the face more traditionally attractive.

Why has she shied away from disowning Buck when she's so quick to point out how bad other problematic trans folks like Blaire White are?

Would she ever work with Blaire?

in that recent interview that someone put on Pastebin, she remarks that she looks up to Buck because (to paraphrase) he passes really well and he was essentially the first trans man she ever really heard of and the first passing trans person too.

Is that not the same of Blaire to a lot of right wingers? Don't you think her appearing alongside Ben Shapiro have shown some of his followers that at least some trans women can and do pass as cis effectively, something they may not have ever thought before seeing her?

But I don't think Natalie would ever work with Blaire. Maybe I'm wrong about that but I just can't imagine her doing it. Blaire is a lot more right-wing than Buck, sure. But in terms of toxic beliefs held towards the rest of the trans community, honestly, their beliefs aren't far off from each other.

I think I know the answer. It's speculation, sure, I can't just ask Natalie, and I can honestly understand she's probably burnt out on the question. But could it be because he's a trans man? Let me explain.

I'm a trans man. I've been openly living as male for almost 5 years. And if there's one thing the general public knows about us... well, actually, they really don't. Buck Angel is basically our only representation. Him, Chaz Bono, and that one pregnant guy who was in the New York Times about it. That's about all there are that cisciety knows.

So I think (again - all I can do is speculate) that Natalie might have been trying to do something she thought was good in an extremely misguided, problematic way.

I think she fell into the "any representation is good representation" pitfall. That she heard there was a lack of transmasculine voices on big budget leftist YouTube and she was like "okay, let me book that one trans man."

And honestly, aS a tRaNs mAn, .....yeah, I do not like that one bit. It feels so much like pandering, like a mischaracterization and even a commodification of us, like he was there so it could be Representation™©. It feels dirty.

There's this trend I've noticed in certain transmasculine circles, especially younger guys. Guys who maybe have a few rightward tendencies, who feel alienated from Tumblr and its infantilizing uwu soft bean boi culture and feel the need to lash out and aggressively say no, that's not me. Who maybe take that toxic trend out on "SJWs." See, there is a big, new, angry wave of truscum brewing among Gen Z's trans men. I was swept up in that wave when I was younger and angrier, too, it's an easy trap to find yourself in. Toxic masculinity is the easiest form to perform in a society that demands it even from cis men.

We don't need this right now. We don't need our only representation to be a guy who won't even call himself transgender for fear that he could be associated with "trenders" and "fakes". This isn't us. This isn't healthy. This is the worst kind of representation.

Seriously, she says/does something fucking terrible regarding nb's at least once a month and all these fucking stans telling us to shut up and stop with "purity testing" pop up immediately every single fucking time. SO fucking sick of this "community". And FUCK OFF with the fucking ridiculous "vampire castle" shit, you fucks. That essay is the most inane piece of "discourse" that has ever graced the left. Literally everyone who supports that drivel uses it to silence the opinions of people who are more marginalized than them.