Almost into season 5 and I still can't stand her. Why the hell didn't Sam praise his good luck and just leave her in Europe with Frasier for about 5 years. Then come back the Frasier show!

I loath rebecca. She cries about everything. I was reading online about the show as I was still in diapers when the series ended. The shows ratings went up when Shelly Long left I don’t know how. Just started season 8… 2 seasons of Rebecca and I’m over her.

I have been watching Cheers on Pluto TV lately. I used to love watching Taxi and thought DeVito was hilarious. Is it just me or is Carla a female version of Louie, but far less funny and much more annoying? It seems like she is doing a impersonation of DeVito's character...Just an observation, not an Earth-shattering one!

Wow, what a huge improvement. The laughs are non-stop and everything and everyone just seems to gel way better.

Diane was really dead weight they cast adrift.

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Ive watched both of them and initially and while Kirsty was more balanced I think Shelley packed a bigger punch dramatically. That said I think Shelley struggled in her final series due to the restrictions on her character.

In my opinion - she brings nothing to the show. If it wasn't for the rest of the cast I wouldn't even watch.

Which era of Cheers do you like? The Diane years or the Rebecca years?

I have lived my whole life in MA and every time I hear Cliff say “Nahm” (like Viet Nam) instead of “Nohm” with a schwa sound after the “o” it’s like fingers on a chalkboard.

Just an alternate timeline thing to think about. Don’t kill me for the thought experiment:

If Ted Danson left but they absolutely wanted the show to continue:

Frasier taking over and becoming the central focus of show would have made a lot of sense.

1- We have proof his character could carry an entire show from the spinoff ✅

2- He became a more central focus of Cheers the final few seasons and especially season 11 (Knowing NBC execs were prepping him for the spinoff.) ✅

3- In storyline terms, it would have made some sense for Sam to sell the bar and Frasier who buys it out of love for the bar. A trained therapist would make a great bartender for people to tell their problems too. 🍻

4- David Hyde Pierce could have still come in as his brother and new bar regular. Sort of replacing Frasier as the smartest bar fly. 🤓

5- John Mahoney who guest stared season 11 could have stayed on as the infamous Sy Flembeck a new bartender or Bar regular. Or he is just Frasier’s dad who needs a job.🍻

6- Perri Gilpin who also guest starred in season 11 could have come on as a regular too. Controversial but I would have used her as the new Melville’s owner to play off Frasier. Maybe she turns it into a more divey seafood restaurant which annoys Frazier. 🦞

7- You still could have all the classic Lilith guest star episodes you got on Frasier but just in the more familiar setting of the bar. 👻

This also assumes you need some new blood to change the show a bit. Woody Harrelson probably only sticks around another season as his movie career had taken off.

The Rebecca character had REALLY run its course and I would have had her only come back as a guest star once in a while.

You’re left with a Staff of:

Frasier - Owner.
Carla - Waitress.
Woody - Bartender.
Sy Flembeck or Marty Crane- Bartender.

Bar Regulars:

Norm.
Cliff.
Paul.
Niles.

New Melville’s Owner:

Roz Doyle

Carla Tortelli is often considered the weak link of the main cast because, well, she’s hard to like a lot of the time. Her role in most episodes is to make mean comments. To be clear, I am aware that, as a sitcom, her salty personality was exaggerated and flanderized at times.

Still, Rhea Perlman was perfectly cast and there are a couple of moments where I wished her character was more appealing, someone you can root for and relate with to a certain degree.

So how would you improve Carla’s character? What headcanons of yours can better develop her? What quality or talent or interest would you add? I’m curious.

I am wasted o n the malt liquor and need a good shows to watch cos I planes on drinking go rest of afternoon should I watched this show

So a TV channel here has been showing reruns of Cheers lately, and watching them I've come to a conclusion that Diane Chambers is possibly one of the most narcissistic characters I've seen on screen- seriously, this woman makes Jennifer Lopez look modest and yet Frasier, Sam, her fiancée from the first episode and who knows how many others are inexplicably drawn to her.

I get that Shelly Long was at least somewhat attractive during this period but if anything that can make a guy realize looks aren't everything it's this woman- so what's her appeal?

Is it just me or does anyone else just love whenever she wore a dress or skirt? I've got such a thing about her legs lol. Also she had the most stunning figure as well and beautiful face. These are just a couple of my favourites.

Up until recently it hadn't really struck me.....but...... For a show that takes place at a bar, nobody really gets drunk. In retrospect I would have appreciated some more slurring.

There definitely has to be a pattern in the writing, regarding who gets drunk and when. Mostly extras and cannon life events is the best I can surmise.

Hello! I watched the whole show a few years back, but my husband had never seen it so we are rewatching it now. We are currently on season 3.

Anyway, what's with all the Rebeccas? I know Rebecca Howe is coming later, but Diane's friend in S1 is named Rebecca, and there are a few Beckys mentioned too. The name is used a lot (so far) and I was wondering if anyone else noticed or knew why.

I'm on the last season of my first complete rewatch since it originally aired and I can't help but feel sorry for all of them and their sad lives ruined by spending all of their time in a bar. You have Norm, who can't keep a job and is so glued to a bar stool that he takes meetings and job interviews there. He's so attached to that stool that anyone looking for him knows exactly where to find him. Frasier is another example. When he first came to the bar he was a successful professional in a relationship with Diane. After a few seasons he was no better than any of the other scheming bar flies, willing to give up everything in his life for a bar stool. I still love the show but it's hard not to feel bad for all of them.

Or more specifically season 2 episode 13.

Suppose Cheers were starting this year, either for the first time or as a remake. Who would you cast in it?

I wasn’t really a fan of Rebecca, (the character not the actress may she rest in peace). Mostly because she was a gold digger, (and I despite gold diggers). It is also surprising that, that never were brought up only once by Carla if I remember correctly. BUT In Frasier when Sam shows up he says thah she is back at Cheers as an alcoholic, becayse her husband, (the plummer), got rich and divorced her. Now I get it that it is more a joke on the show. But I do think it was a rather crude faith she was given. Thoughts on Rebecas fate? Did she deserve what she got?