r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/OrdoAbChao33 • Nov 15 '17
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/SebastianSoleil • Oct 18 '17
[ Founder ] [Sticky] What led me to this? What is the purpose?
If you would like something similar but stripped of all religious notions, please follow this link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnAnswerToHeal/comments/7c6uy4/administrative_a_proposal_to_cull_the_noise_and/
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Update: There are going to be some not-minor changes that make this even more open than it is up until the end of November. I need to talk to a few more people. But this is a start. I will no longer be moderator after this sub is 44 days old and will step into another role temporarily.
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tl/dr is in bold. Read the bold in this post and the post linked at the end to get get the gist in <5 minutes. Then come back through and read the details that you want.
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Facts that led me here. These are roughly in the order that they occurred to me:
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1 - Over 5 years ago - Ibogaine is used for the treatment of addictions (specifically for opiates, but it may help with other addictions as well.) Look up 'Ibogaine Clinic Canada' or Mexico for plenty more information. The success rate approaches 90% with proper pre and post counseling or therapy, though it is an illegal schedule 1 drug in America. This is extremely relevant to the state of emergency that our 'president' declared today about opioid addictions. I acquired Iboga Root Bark & Ibogaine legally in Holland and personally used it in 2013 to make headway against my addiction to depression. I think it helped because that was my intention going into it.
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2 - Some Time ago - Mushrooms have been used in trials to help the terminally ill overcome anxiety related to death. This is an illegal schedule 1 drug in the US. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/magazine/how-psychedelic-drugs-can-help-patients-face-death.html I first used mushrooms in 2016 and purged a lot of bad energy from childhood trauma.
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3 - Some time ago - Native Americans have a legal exemption for the use of Peyote in their religious rituals, granted in 1996. See '42 usc 1996' and 'American Indian Religious Freedom Act.' #cues best church lady voice# "How Conveeenient." I have not used Peyote yet. Oh, and once again, Peyote is an illegal schedule 1 drug in the US.
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4 - A year ago - A Lawyer friend of mine used LSD to quit smoking. Surprisingly he has much extreme hesitation about this idea, so much so that he appears to oppose it. He published an article about his own use in Newsweek though. http://www.newsweek.com/how-acid-helped-stop-smoking-413593 Without my own use of LSD, this subReddit and probably this idea wouldn't exist. You guessed it... Illegal schedule 1 drug.
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5 - September 23 - There is an opiate overdose epidemic in Staten Island, not far from where I am at the moment. The addicts are under-served. This is the article printed September 21, though I had the printed version that I took on the Megabus home. HTTP://www.metro.us/news/local-news/new-york/staten-island-opioid-overdoses-lack-treatment-options Opiates are controlled substances and rightfully so because they are extremely addictive and destructive. Unfortunately most of them are not schedule 1.
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6 - September 23 - The UDV "Union of the Vine" Church from Brazil gained an exemption from the US Supreme Court for the use of Hoasca (Ayahuasca) in their ceremonies in 2006 after having 30 gallons of Ayahuasca seized by the DEA in 1999. Look up 'UDV Hoasca USA.' When you look through their site you can find the court case. The DMT in Ayahuasca is schedule 1, even though DMT is naturally occuring in every living organism, from a bacterium to a piece of grass to a human (interestingly not viruses, and we don't consider them life forms.)
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7 - September 24 - Other churches (rarely) have also been granted exemptions for psychoactive plant use for religious purposes in the US, and some have been denied for various reasons that we plan to avoid. I may have to find the links and #post them here later.# I am aware of 1 or 2 others who have been approved. I will be posting these links and all the others in the sidebar. You may suggest related links to the moderators also. I must note that all psychedelics, as a group, were banned in the late 1960s and soon after classified as schedule 1 drugs. Meanwhile dangerous addictive drugs such as morphine, opium, methadone are schedule 2, with some medical use. Guess which group is a boon to big pharma, and indirectly to the government through taxes and lobbying? https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/orangebook/c_cs_alpha.pdf
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8 - September 24 - The thought occurred to me "Why can't we start a religion of healing, and use these entheogens as sacraments of healing?" And so I established the Order of the Cosmos shortly before midnight on September 24th near the woods in the middle of very rural Pennsylvania. No angels or Gods appeared to me, though I am sure there were plenty of spirits around. I just knew that I wanted to be like a saviour and help some people. And in saviour I don't mean to sound like a megalomaniac or say that I'm a prophet or profess any kind of power against death, I just want to extend people's lives and improve people's quality of life, and also continue the spiritual development, awareness, and enlightenment in my life and in the lives of others.
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The Order of The Cosmos will have no human leaders or deities, will be compatible with all other religions, and will be as decentralized and transparent as possible. Adherents will be able to initiate themselves into this spiritual practice without ever having to meet anyone, will be allowed to perform our rituals and use our sacraments in religious rituals, and will never be required to contribute finances to call themselves a member. Some adherents may benefit legally from being a part of our group if they find themselves in trouble, others may become well, and we hope all will benefit spiritually. There will be other unique features discussed here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnAnswerToHeal/comments/75j9tk/general_spiritual_how_will_the_church_be/
The purpose of this subReddit is for all of us to found the structure and workings of the church together as a group.
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Update: This is starting to look more and more like an underground spiritual movement as I talk to more people. That's OK, Christianity was underground in many places when it started. Basically we are more legitimate reason (in the eyes of the courts) to use these substances than because you feel like it, we offer a potential defence if in trouble (religion), and we won't cost you a thing. This spiritual practice is also designed to galvanize a small self-chosen group to do big things, to spread virally and globally in the underground, away from the spectres of the authorities. In my humble opinion, the next age of humanity is about moving away from hierarchy towards 'decentrarchy' and connection. Read on for the details.
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The name of our ministry is "An Answer To Heal."
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The 3 pronged purpose of the church is in its missions. The first mission of this church is to heal using the plants that were provided to us, and that many indigenous people have used for centuries in their religious and medicinal practices throughout the world. The 2nd mission is to provide compassionate care where healing is not possible yet. The third mission is to encourage and support spiritual development is this increasingly spiritually desolate and confusing world.
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In summary, the missions are "To heal those who can be healed, to have compassion for those who can't, and to provide spiritual enlightenment for everyone who is willing."
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The sacraments of the Order of the Cosmos so far include:
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1 - THC (Marijuana or Cannabis) originated in the Middle East - used for initiation and as a daily sacrament for the forgiveness ritual here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnAnswerToHeal/comments/78l5s5/general_spiritual_a_potential_initiation_ritual/
2 - Iboga (Iboga root bark or Ibogaine) originated in Africa - used for healing of addictions, and connection to spirits of ancestors
3 - DMT (Ayahuasca or various Pharmahuascas) originated in South America - used in healing, and for connection to the mother plant spirit
4 - LSD (LSA might be better) (synthesized from ergotamine which is extracted from ergot, a poisonous mold of Rye) originated in Europe - Use? Used for clarity, expansion of self awareness, spirituality, problem solving? I need some help here. If it wasn't for LSD & Cannabis, this subreddit wouldn't be here ;)
5 - Mescaline (Peyote or San Pedro) originated in North America - Use? It is interesting that the users call it 'the medicine' and that MDMA is an analogue of it. Used for deeper connection to other people and spirits?
6 - Psylocybin (Magic Mushrooms) found everywhere. Associated with Antarctica since hardly anything grows there - used for compassionate care related to terminal illness, and increasing spiritual awareness
7 - Possibly the active ingredient in Amanita Muscaria originated in Mainland Asia - use?
8 - What entheogen originated in the subcontinent of India? What is Soma?
9 - What entheogen originated in Australia?
10 - What entheogens originated in the Pacific Islands and other small places?
11 - Are there any important entheogens left out? Salvia Divinorum from Central America? 5-MEO-DMT (Bufotenine) from frogs in Mexico? Kambo sticks? I am sure there are others that I have never even heard of.
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Update: The courts have consistently ruled against the use of more than 1 sacrament in a religion, even though Revelations 22:2 may be a good defense. Even so, we may completely evade the law by becoming completely decentralized and underground, as I have done my best to lay out here. More about that in the structure of the church thread. Another option is starting a separate spiritual movement for each sacrament. Why can't we do both? Now open for discussion.
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Use of sacraments will never be required by adherents, except in the case of THC for the initiation and forgiveness rituals. Those performing these rituals will not be required to inhale the THC. In the case of physical or mental allergy (paranoia or deep fear) to THC, or some other medical reason, the initiator and initiate will be able to agree on an alternate sacrament used symbolically to represent THC for use in the ritual. The Catholic church allows for substitution for those who are alcoholics or allergic to grapes, so why can't we?
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Hemp leaves might be a good alternate. If using tobacco, I would encourage you to use a pure tobacco of good quality. The indigenous people of South America use Mapacho or South American Tobacco for ritual use. It has 10 to 20 times the nicotine compared to our typical tobacco in the Western World, so it is not suitable for recreational smoking. For those who are in a place where it is illegal and very risky to have Marijuana, you can also agree on an alternate sacrament, however we would encourage the initiate to repeat the ritual on their own once they are in a place where it is legal or at least less risky.
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All other sacraments will have their own uses and rituals, resembling the rituals of the religions where they have been previously used. People may initiate themselves, but we will educate people on medical harm reduction and legal harm reduction. Consumption of sacraments will always be self-administered. Never under any circumstances, sell, distribute, or administer a sacrament to another person, or you will subject yourself to potentially serious legal consequences, especially if something bad happens medically. Always let the initiate or adherent bring their own sacrament, hopefully acquired legally or anonymously, or if necessary, very discreetly. Your service is only as a sitter. Avoid harm by never violating this principle, even with the legal sacraments.
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As you can see, even the establishment of sacraments has not been completed. Let's aim for 12 sacraments, covering every large geographic area of Earth, since humans are indigenous to the whole Earth. Revelation 22:2 "On each side of the river is the tree of life producing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month of the year. Its leaves are for the healing of the nations."
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For anyone who has any skepticism about all of this, please understand that I also have the same skepticism, and that is healthy. I think I am being very optimistic when I say that I believe we have a 50% chance of being very successful in America, at least in the near future. I do however think we can get at least one sacrament legally recognized in the US and that this is enough for now. We will fight the the good fight for more later if we have to. The good news is, since everything is legal somewhere, there is a 99.9% chance that this spiritual movement will spread. We just may find out that we do not have all the religious freedom here in America that we claim to have. In the US, if we eventually only get 2 or 3 sacraments legally recognized then that is GREAT!!! We will roll with that. We will still keep this same full list of sacraments anyways, but adherents will have to travel to other places set up in other countries to do specific rituals ---> which means Pilgrimages!!! YAY!!! I would suggest a temple in Amsterdam, Portugal, or Switzerland if we have to. And your travel and expenses will be tax deductible too. If our government moves to limit our religious freedom, then there will be a penalty for them.
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For anyone who thinks that we should wait for medical availability. Well, I fully support what MAPS and other medical organizations are doing. I am their biggest fan. But people are dying NOW and it is worse than most of you think. Ibogaine is not even on the governments radar for trials for opiate addicts, probably because of the lobbying and other efforts of big money & big pharma. And actually what we are doing here may lead to quicker legalization for medical use. The government will see that no matter whether they approve or not, we are still going to practice our religion regardless, just in other places like our forefathers were forced to do, while they sit around and NOT get revenue, and most importantly NOT help people. So that might light a little fire under their ass. The last thing the government needs to do is to repress a religion because we are not strictly Christian. As for the church, in an act of civil disobedience, we agree with the right of our adherents to practice their religion in accordance with their civil and constitutional rights, and we will reasonably do whatever is wise and within our power to support them. The idea is to pool our resources from the people that believe in this and use that to defend our adherents, as well as force the government to allow for our right to religious freedom. It might be an uphill battle and take awhile, but for me personally, it is worth the risk. Please join me in this most worthy fight!
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Honestly I think it is ludicrous and sad that we have to resort to having a religion and help people in this way, but at least it is entirely appropriate. I am aware of all of our potential sacraments except one being used for religious purposes by well recognized groups all over the world. And from the ones I have experienced, there is something really spiritual that cannot easily be explained about all of them. Just as with the major religions, you must have first hand experience to understand. I would still create a spiritual movement around these sacraments even if the substances were legal. In other words, we do have a genuinely spiritual purpose here other than healing.
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To fill out our list, specific properties of entheogens we are looking for include 1) used to connect to god(s) or spirits 2) not commonly addictive, 3) not man-made, and 4) has been or can be used for healing. Fortunately this rules out opium and coca, but it also rules out tobacco. However since tobacco is not illegal and South American tobacco (Mapacho) is used in ritual healing by their indigenous people, it will be permitted as a healing aid in our spiritual practices, but not formally as a sacrament. Wine (alcohol) was a sacrament in Ancient Greece, but it is also addictive, so it is ruled out.
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Entheogens would of course not leave the church premises, and will be used in ritual, and only by members of the church or during initiation of new members. Some sacraments (such as Iboga) will only be self-administered with oversight by doctors (harm reduction) who are licensed in the state, and only after sufficient medical tests have been performed. These tests will have been determined by doctors with prior hands on experience with iboga. Health screening will be absolutely necessary for safety with some sacraments. Each sacrament we choose will be evaluated by doctors on a case by case basis. Other sacraments (such as THC) will be able to be overseen by anyone in the religion (only in ritual) to initiate new members into the spiritual movement or for their own personal religious rituals. The doctors who are adherents will be called shamans and will be the only ones authorized to oversee the self-administration of more dangerous sacraments. I am not a doctor and therefore will not be a shaman, but I will be a minister.
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For very specific and detailed discussions of these points, please start a new thread. Make general comments in this thread. Maybe share your initial thoughts, support, or why you think this will or won't work. I welcome constructive dissent here, as it will make us stronger when we face the real opposition. "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another."
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Warmest Regards,
Sebastian
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P.S. Continue to next sticky here on how we establish the church... (Click this and read the bold if you are just scanning.)
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnAnswerToHeal/comments/75j691/sticky_what_needs_to_be_done/
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/Joey7801 • Nov 06 '17
[Psychedelic] has anyone else here seen these symbols?
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/seeking-soma • Nov 06 '17
[Specific Legal] Psilocybin legalization in California proposed
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/Reactionary_ • Jan 10 '18
Legalize Psilocybin in CA!
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/oo0olegendoo0o • Nov 05 '17
[General Medical] Psychedelics aren't for everyone.
After various lsd experiences and one brutal mushroom experience I have realised everything is the way it is because that's how it's supposed to be. Everyone is living the experience they create. Before my shroom experience I was an advocate. Now I think psychedelics should be reserved for those who are seeking the experience of oneness..
They can mess up people who aren't ready for it.
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/[deleted] • Nov 15 '17
[ Introductory ] I'm 18 in college, have depression out the ass, but psychedelics are fun and have a lot of meaning to me. Also I love making art.
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/Gavinvic • Nov 29 '17
[ Psychedelic ] Brazil is offering prisoners powerful psychedelic Ayahuasca to reduce recidivism
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/lsdinsane • Nov 27 '17
Who else thinks cannabis is a psychedelic?
Cannabis for me is very much a psychedelic, I get very very noticeable oevs and cevs comparable to serotonergic drugs, I also get very deep thoughts and go into a very meditative state. Does anyone have similar experiences, I've talked to my friends about this and they don't seem to know what I'm talking about.
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/durdurdurdurdurdur • Jun 20 '18
Figured this would be the best place to share the awareness poster I made
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/PsycheSoldier • Nov 17 '17
[ Philosophical ] I’m liking this subreddit, but I️ have a few concerns
I️ pick up a lot of spiritual vibes and I️ respect that, but I️ do not think this is how we as a group could convince the public, and certainly not the legislature to move on towards legalizing these substances.
We need a figurehead who can unify the spiritual, scientific, and public together to enact this change. This subreddit, in my honest opinion, should be less subjective and more focused on how to mitigate the demonization of these substances that the War in Drugs has succeeded in doing.
Anyhow, that’s my input, I️ hope you all have a splendid day ✌️
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/kuro-oruk • Nov 07 '17
[Introductory] Yesterday I asked while meditating for connection with like minded others as I have been feeling that my inner journey is taking me further from the people around me..and I woke up to your invitation and wanted to say thank you and hi :)
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/Jerseyprophet • Nov 06 '17
[General Spiritual] Dr. Alpert, now known as Ram Dass, during the heart of LSD revolution. Hear his words.
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/MedicalCannaFruit • Nov 26 '17
You are not crazy. Society just resists the change we envision. Grow love comrades.
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/cyantaco • Nov 07 '17
[General Spiritual] Anyone else feel spiritually crushed by society, its norms, stereotypes, and the overall lack of depth people have?
I'm always trying to show people that there's so much more depth to life than live like your told, but people act as if I'm nuts. Sometimes I feel like I'm around a bunch of zombies, in not saying I'm any better, I'm just saying that I've finally learned to partially see through the facade of reality.
Who can say what reality is anyways? I'm not questioning anyone's view on reality, more or less the condition of the world and the fact that people could care less and are too stick in their own bubble to give a crap. That tells me two things, one, technology is really starting to make us care less about the outside world, and I'm not saying we don't care when people die, I'm just saying that we just care more about what's in out bubble.The second thing this tells me is that people are so close minded they actually can't see the corruption all around them, I'm just a crazy "conspiracy theorist", and people only believe what's been proven, but there's been a lot of things that have been proven that people still don't believe, like global warming. It's a massive double standard, and when I say I can only see though part of the facade, IMO, society does a number on everyone, I don't even know if there is a society where we aren't completely influenced by everything and everyone around us, we are who we are, we're all sheep to an extent.
It's the corruption that takes advantage of us being naive, so when I simply try to really show people that they could actually think for themselves rather than what they've been programmed to think or do, it spiritually crushes me. When I say programmed, I mean, everyone do the same thing, "because that's just what you do", social norms, apparently we can't live without them. I'm still working through my mind and figuring out what I truly desire, who I really am, and if either of those are influenced by external sources other than making me what I am today. We're so close to autonomous it's not even funny, just look at the banking system, it's decimates creativity, which has been proven, yet, we have emotion so we always feel like we are in control.
Sorry for ranting, I'm just a 26 year old empath who's pretty lost in life, luckily found my soulmate, currently been searching for enlightenment the last 3-4 years and have had no luck, although my paranormal experiences are like something out of supernatural, I'm not even kidding. Sounds like it's not that bad, but feeling like I'm always surrounded by people that are completely close minded all the time is stressful for me. I truly can't connect with people that are close minded, just doesn't work for me. I've met open-minded people, but we never stay in each other's lives, it's just kind of how it works, aside from my fiancee of course. Hopefully this sub is what I'm thinking it is.
Edit: How are people selected to be invited to this? Im surprised how many like minded people are here.
Edit#2: I'm surprised not one of you were rude or anything more than critical in a helpful way. I'm not used to people on Reddit being this kind.
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/Lazyboyz008 • Nov 20 '17
[media] Not sure what I made, but I thought you guys might find it interesting
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/NCSU_Trip_Whisperer • Nov 16 '17
[ Introductory ] Thanks for the Invite
Greetings everyone,
I appreciate the invite to the group and while I do believe in fighting for legislation to allow for the legal use of psychedelics, I remain skeptical of any sort of organized system of thoughts or beliefs.
I was raised Catholic, and while it wasn't a traumatizing experience (I wasn't diddled by any priests or anything like that) it has left a bad taste in my mouth regarding religion or anything that closely resembles it. Not to say that this is a religion, as I haven't done enough reading to make any sort of hard decision about the nature of this sub. However, the way that this all reads certainly leads me to think that this is the direction that things are currently leaning.
That being said, I believe that psychedelics have a place in the mental health field as a form of treatment when used by trained professionals in the proper setting. I don't consider myself or anyone I know to be a professional user of these substances, but I definitely consider myself experienced.
I'm more than happy to be a member of the community so that I can watch the growth of this movement and chime in when appropriate, but for now I think I'll stand by quietly and see where this goes.
My advice to others joining this community: Take everything you read here, or on any other similar sub, with a grain of salt. Don't latch on to any conclusions that others have reached and take it/preach it as truth. You should certainly give everything equal consideration and thought, but be 100% sure that any conclusions or thoughts that you have are entirely your own. That's not to say do not believe what others believe, but rather that if you decide to share the same view as another you should be entirely sure that you should make sure that these views are entirely your own.
Again, I appreciate the invite and feel touched that someone thought that I have valuable contributions to make to a sub of this nature.
Be safe, be smart, and be skeptical, not cynical.
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/[deleted] • May 21 '18
I painted this for couples that need healing. The serpents burn in alchemical fire and join into one. The vesica piscis in the center is a symbol of the perfect whole split into duality, but is also used as the Venn diagram. In one circle ME, in the other YOU, in the middle US.
r/AnAnswerToHeal • u/SebastianSoleil • Nov 11 '17
[ Founder ] [Administrative] A Proposal to cull the noise, and focus. READ ME!
This is 2 parts
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For Everyone
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OK I have hung back for a few days. I am glad to be back. There are quite a few things that I am overjoyed about that I see here. It looks like a few are going to step up and influence.
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I am very happy about the overall response. There have been some rumblings about not wanting religion (I have a proposal) and also that there is quite a bit of noise here and that it looks like just another r/psychonaut. In my humble opinion this is just fine and lovely. I love it that every one of you are here, and I love your posts too. Feel free to continue as you are and cross-post here and there. Visit the other lovely subreddits that I am going to link in the sidebar before I step away. The public may be here soon enough, if my PR plan plays out correctly, so put on your best face!
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However, we also need to make another conversation about how we move forward with this religion (and a sister group moves forward with a movement that strips of all religious notions... Proposal in the bottom-most link.)
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After the 44th day of the top sticky, I will no longer be a moderator here. Oh, I am not going anywhere, but I will be less active, and will still try to respond to all PMs. Minerva will be moderator, and will be in charge of inviting new moderators from then on, until he decides to leave. I wouldn't look at him as a leader either, just a facilitator of the subreddit.
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Since I did exert some leadership here (it was necessary to be the catalyst to start) I will be stepping away from the leadership role completely and into another role external to reddit for a time. And then we will will have no leader. And if we are accused of being a cult, you can say affirmatively that yes, you are a cult with no leader. Maybe we embrace the attack and teach people about what cults are really in their midst: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnAnswerToHeal/comments/7bknbw/what_is_this_is_this_a_cult/
and https://docuri.com/download/cults-in-our-midst-chapter-1_59c1e0eaf581710b2869d629_pdf
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I do have a lot of other things to post about and discuss for the next 3 weeks. Where we are, where we go, responses to anyone who responded to me, a few ideas and suggestions. I will be in full moderator mode also.
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Maybe I can find someone to help before I leave the moderating. It looks like a pretty good group and a pretty good response. I see some divisions, and I am here to facilitate and suggest ideas for how we overcome those. I will leave behind a blueprint for how I wanted to go forward, and others either will or will not pick certain things to accomplish from that list. I will get as much done as I can during my short time left.
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If you like how I have done, commit to a 44 day stint of this and then leave and come back when you are ready for another stint. We contribute and we all have lives to live too.
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Speaking of PMs, as I type I have over 300 to reply to, and I will respond to all of them soon. I am sorry to not be quicker. I am having one of those moments where I wish there were 20 of me. I am overwhelmed with love, support, concern, a little constructive dissent, and a dash of people who almost totally disagree. I apologize if they haven't left yet. I am a slow moderator, and that's good, I think for the start. Even the most opposed have had some voice here! I am glad. I am leaving almost all of it (except for some pointless posts) so that you see what you are up against. Maybe you'll decide this religion is not for you! Great! Go find your purpose and do that instead! .
I am so glad to see some things here. It looks like a little group could form to focus on where we want to go. So I have this proposal. We aren't going to do it unless I see some support here.
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For those who want to get down to business... A Proposal.
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These are some of the things that need focus:
"others can contribute to the founding of the church, it's doctrine, rituals, guidelines, and even music."
"The IRS also states that your church must have some combination of the following: the list of 16 things"
"let's eliminate as many weaknesses as we can that we have encountered in organized religion. Let's also reduce the chance for dogma."
"What I want you to do. Discuss, agree, disagree, point out problems and paradoxes, issue challenges, expose medical and legal issues, give advice, and above all be respectful to each other. For the most part, everything written here is up for discussion and amendment until the launch date. That is why you are here!"
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The link at the bottom "about religion or not religion" is also exactly the kind of stuff that I want to talk about, with a group of peers who will engage, so I want to put forth a proposal:
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We start a another subreddit or even better, a discord (idea taken from this post here...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnAnswerToHeal/comments/7az4sc/off_topic_discord/) It is invitation only, and it's for people who want to focus on the direction of where we go. We nominate people from here based on what they said here. The point is not to only include those who seem to agree with you, but to include all who have been constructively critical. The best of those have even suggested good ideas to fix a problem or a new idea altogether. An example is the person (thanks you) who submitted the idea for the [Administrative] tag which is now the [Founder] tag, because those who contribute there are founders. I would suggest that we read through posts and use our spirit and our gut to determine who to invite to the discord.
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Maybe we also have 2 subreddits... one that has all religion stripped out and this one. Someone else starts that one and names it. I will link it here. I ask that you link us there. I will develop that proposal here...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AnAnswerToHeal/comments/7c6urc/administrative_to_religion_or_not_to_religion/
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Basically... We separate and network to overcome divisions! How do they stop a decentralized network of decentralized networks? haha. Follow this pattern when you find 2 groups who can't agree. Maybe we end up with 44 groups. That would be so hilarious... and difficult to stop!
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Have a beautiful now!
Sebastian
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P.S. For you Americans, Happy Veterans Day!