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PGL Major Kraków 2017 Main Qualifier
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Streams
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Timezones
| PDT | EDT | BRT | BST | CEST | CST | AEST |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Los Angeles | Atlanta | São Paulo | London | Cologne | Beijing | Canberra |
| UTC-7 | UTC-4 | UTC-3 | UTC+1 | UTC+2 | UTC+8 | UTC+10 |
Schedule
| ID | Team 1 | vs | Team 2 | Result | PDT | EDT | BRT | BST | CEST | CST | AEST |
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| A1 | G2 | vs | IMT | 22-20 | 00:00 | 03:00 | 04:00 | 08:00 | 09:00 | 15:00 | 17:00 |
| A2 | OG | vs | PENTA | 14-16 | 02:10 | 05:10 | 06:10 | 10:10 | 11:10 | 17:10 | 19:10 |
| A3 | TL | vs | TyL | 22-19 | 03:55 | 06:55 | 07:55 | 11:55 | 12:55 | 18:55 | 20:55 |
| A4 | GOD | vs | Dig | 16-14 | 05:55 | 08:55 | 09:55 | 13:55 | 14:55 | 20:55 | 22:55 |
| A5 | mouz | vs | Tengri | 16-1 | 07:55 | 10:55 | 11:55 | 15:55 | 16:55 | 22:55 | 00:55 |
| A6 | HR | vs | Vega | 16-10 | 09:00 | 12:00 | 13:00 | 17:00 | 18:00 | 00:00 | 02:00 |
| A7 | F3 | vs | RNG | 19-16 | 10:25 | 13:25 | 14:25 | 18:25 | 19:25 | 01:25 | 03:25 |
| A8 | BIG | vs | C9 | 10-16 | 12:20 | 15:20 | 16:20 | 20:20 | 21:20 | 03:20 | 05:20 |
Standings
| Place | Team Name | W&L | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 |
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| 1. | G2 Esports | 1-0 | 22-20 | ||||
| 1. | PENTA Sports | 1-0 | 16-14 | ||||
| 1. | Team Liquid | 1-0 | 22-19 | ||||
| 1. | GODSENT | 1-0 | 16-14 | ||||
| 1. | mousesports | 1-0 | 16-1 | ||||
| 1. | HellRaisers | 1-0 | 16-10 | ||||
| 1. | FlipSid3 Tactics | 1-0 | 19-16 | ||||
| 1. | Cloud9 | 1-0 | 16-10 | ||||
| Immortals | 0-1 | 20-22 | |||||
| OpTic Gaming | 0-1 | 14-16 | |||||
| TyLoo | 0-1 | 19-22 | |||||
| Team Dignitas | 0-1 | 14-16 | |||||
| Tengri | 0-1 | 1-16 | |||||
| Vega Squadron | 0-1 | 10-16 | |||||
| Renegades | 0-1 | 16-19 | |||||
| BIG | 0-1 | 10-16 |
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u/LoadedGoodss Jun 29 '17
Hope G2 straight 3-0 here. Can't wait for my shox stickers
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u/CptWetPants Legendary Switzerland Master Jun 29 '17
Nope. Round 28 - Banana control; 4 players on A, 2 pit and they fail to get more than 3 kills. The G2 way! Amazing, isn't it.
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u/Scar20Grotto Jun 29 '17
Is every game gonna be overtime or 16:14? This is intense.
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u/LordNelson27 Parivision Jun 29 '17
2 double overtimes and 2 games with a 16-14 score line so far. This is tense and it's only day 1
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u/eSportsStats Jun 29 '17
1st day PGL Major Krakow Main Qualifier streams stats:
With Chinese viewers - http://i.imgur.com/F2CWSmW.jpg
Without Chinese viewers - http://i.imgur.com/80kvu6p.jpg
Detailed stats:
https://esc.watch/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-krakow-2017-main-qualifier
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u/Mr_Mad_Brotato CS2 HYPE Jun 29 '17
So, I've seen how the PGL UI has evolved over the short period of time it has been shown to us, the viewers, but I think, while I like it, as it is simplistic and practical, there are some rough edges.
The font looks too agressive. I can't quite put my finger on what makes it not look that good, but it might help you know that in my honest opinion the CS:GO font looks much better.
You probably can't improve this, but i think the minimap player icons could use some work, since the numbers are now useless maybe you could find a way to better identify the players, and I don't know if you guys have a solution for maps with verticality like nuke.
Include a better way to show the bomb timer. I know you guys want to occupy less space, but I think the current method isn't as good as a simple timer.
The way damage dealt is shown on the health bars is great, but it takes too long and might confuse people, maybe shorten the animation time.
I know it isn't important for the qualifiers, but I just want you to remember that MVPs are important in the major, as they influence souvenir drops, so you might want to find a way to display that.
Concluding, I know I nitpicked, but I think the UI looks great and does a great job, and this was just my opinion on the subject. I hope it was useful!
*Previous post was deleted, was asked to post it here
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Jun 29 '17
penta is playing crazy good, fast and slow executes, lurking perfectly with sunny and abusing the fact thst aftrer 1:10~ NAF is holding B solo.
Well read by Penta, me gusta
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u/bslapshot Jun 29 '17
What is worse?
Tournament times in EU for Americans and Aussies, tournament times in NA for Euros and Aussies or tournaments in AU/Asia for NA and Europeans?
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u/Orengepanda Jun 29 '17
I Prefer PGL events to the Eleague events when we talk about time, for NA events I'll only see 1 match, for EU I'll see maybe 5-6 before I Have to sleep
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u/Orengepanda Jun 29 '17
in NZ its only 7pm so its not too bad right now, thats 5pm in Aussie
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u/albi-_- Jun 29 '17
Rofl overtimes and 16-14 scorelines left and right, and then Mouz bulldozes Tengri 16-1
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u/Immortalsgg Official Immortals Jun 29 '17
We are going to give our best! LET'S BREAK THE CURSE! #IMTWIN
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u/TheYuppieWord Jun 29 '17
Just wanted to say, you guys played an excellent match and kept me on my toes the whole time. Keep fighting, I wanna see more of you guys!
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u/Thomzz_ Vitality Jun 29 '17
inb4 germany beats NA twice
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jun 29 '17
Can you really count Penta as a German team though? I mean is mouse still a German team? :D
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u/xFaght Astralis Jun 29 '17
neither are, just german organisations. BIG is the only good german team.
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u/thekmanpwnudwn 500k Celebration Jun 29 '17
Anyone know if they'll be doing the drawings for the next round on air?
I would prefer that than behind closed doors and just getting a tweet or something with the next round 30min after last match
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u/OhCaptainMyCaptain- G2 Jun 29 '17
Regardless if Tyloo or TL wins, every game today was so fucking close.
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u/WalkingSlowly de_nuke Jun 29 '17
for some reason the wrong facecam for pronax is insanely hilarious to me, especially when tenzki, who is actually being shown, is dead and it appears like "pronax" is playing with one hand etc.
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u/BrokenShipPro phoenix Jun 29 '17
Wow, all close games except one, this major is going to be insane
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u/bridgebuilder12 Jun 29 '17
anyone know why g2 switched where they sit? Bodyy is in the middle now? Any chance he might be ingame leading?
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u/crazyiwann Jun 29 '17
i would love to see tyloo win but dont know. bntet is very good and consistent but rest of the team...
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u/kubqo Natus Vincere Jun 29 '17
wow, all three games so incredibly close today. this qualifier is gonna be really competitive.
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u/csgotraderino Jun 29 '17
mouz tengri game is already 90 minutes late now and they still have a 15 minute countdown on stream, why?
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jun 29 '17
So according to the logic of this qualifier this should go into double OT, right?
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u/Lauen FaZe Jun 29 '17
comeback and overtime incoming Kappa
jk, mouz can probably close this fairly soon. Pls no comeback, games have lasted for too long already today.
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jun 29 '17
From the comments before this match by the analysts, I have the feeling that many underestimate Vega. I think they have higher upset potential than a fairly established team like Godsent.
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u/Mystictrident Jun 29 '17
Out of hr and vega who is the better team. (In general not just in this match)
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u/OhCaptainMyCaptain- G2 Jun 29 '17 edited Jun 29 '17
Geez what was that random A Main push from electronic in a gunround, kinda destroyed their chance for a comeback.
Flipside played so sloppy, allowing them to take multiple frags for free.
EDIT: Seems they proved me wrong for now.
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u/andoRRR BIG Jun 29 '17
Useful thing this CIS Minor. Don't know why this is still a thing in times of offline qualifiers for majors. Tengri wouldn't have made it to the closed qualifier in EU.
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u/pro_n00b Jun 29 '17
C9 is last game today. Hopefully all games go to distance, we know C9 can close out the day with a long game like that 15-6 Mirage 😅
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u/HandmadeBirds Jun 29 '17
Thank god that it's broadcasted on Twitch instead of YouTube
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u/thankthe6 Jun 29 '17
3 am here. Excited for G2 vs. Immortals to start this tournament off.
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Jun 29 '17
Are the players in a construction site? The size of the headsets, oh my
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u/chemo-GER Jun 29 '17 edited Jun 29 '17
I believe these arent even headsets, but hearing protection. 3M is a company known for their industrial protection equipment.
Edit: yeah, these in white: http://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/search/~/3M-Peltor-X5A-37274-AAD-Over-the-Head-Earmuffs-Hearing-Conservation-10-EA-Case?N=5002385+3294326317&rt=rud Probably canceling noise better than most headsets though
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u/MyFriendIsInsane Jun 29 '17
Does Shox have a larger than normal mousepad? Half of it seems to be covered by his keyboard/falling off the bottom and he seems fine by it.
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u/heynowyouranal Jun 29 '17
Christ in heaven G2 kept on trading rounds with Immortals, felt like ten years it took for em to win.
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u/sUUUUchar 10 years coin Jun 29 '17
http://imgur.com/a/tcBO7 wouldn't such timer be better than currently used one?
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Jun 29 '17
Is there any way to pause the twitch stream so it buffers without immediately going live when I unpause it? That's what I do on YouTube.
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u/CagiestSword8 Jun 29 '17
Can anyone explain to me how this tournament works? Is it straight knockout, groups, etc. Thanks in advance
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u/sUUUUchar 10 years coin Jun 29 '17
you need to win 3 matches to advance/lose 3 matches to get knocked out
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Jun 29 '17
Swiss system. You play teams that have the same record as you until you have 3 wins or 3 losses. 3 wins you're in the major, 3 losses you go home. In the case of OpTic they are going to play somebody else that lost their first match next time.
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u/CivilMannequin Liquid Jun 29 '17
What the fuck is DDs sens?
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u/KraaiPastoor Jun 29 '17
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Chinese CS is something else... :)
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jun 29 '17
With the Kek9 it doesnt really matterrs. Sometimes it feels that gun has an integrated aimbot...
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u/RBozydar Virtus.pro Jun 29 '17
Why's the OT cash at 10k instead of 16k?
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Jun 29 '17
to have a sense of cash management, if they give them 16k its going to be 3 awp non stop for a player
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u/IlIIIIIIllI BIG Jun 29 '17
It has always been MR3 10k but sometimes tournaments played MR5 with 16k
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u/Knovolt 1 Million Celebration Jun 29 '17
imo Liquid has been dominant as a team for the majority of the match, despite the close scoreline. But, they really dropped off towards the end
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u/OhCaptainMyCaptain- G2 Jun 29 '17
Guess with their loss against Godsent Dignitas lost their chance to qualify.
Don't really see them taking 3 wins, especially with how chaotic they played today. 2 more wins could've been maybe possible.
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u/wobmaster Jun 29 '17
What´s up with the obivous voice changed announcer/narrator ? Anyone else find it annoying to listen to?
It´s super distracting....
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u/Strongbad536 Jun 29 '17
Jesus can we talk about Mouz's buying strategy?
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jun 29 '17
Mouse is always solid in anti-ecos, so no... (I am crying, even though it worked)
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u/arkwewt Jun 29 '17
What is with mouz buying tec9's after winning pistol? Are they trying to prove how op the Tec-9 is so it get's nerfed or something? Or just saving money??
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u/Znaszlisiora Jun 29 '17
There is method to this madness. Good players can spam the tec-9 as fast as you can shoot the UMP. The UMP has become almost useless and so are all the other SMGs. You can one tap with the Tec-9 at long distances as well. Besides if you're going against 5-7s and P250s you might as well even the playing field.
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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Jun 29 '17
I think we might finally have a game which doesn't go to 30 rounds or OT
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jun 29 '17
Maybe 16-0 since today is the day of extremes apparently...
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u/Znaszlisiora Jun 29 '17
I know it's their first game, but mouz are looking so solid. A couple months ago you would've never imagined that removing mouz's best player would actually benefit them.
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u/Follow_The_Lore MOUZ Jun 29 '17
how can you say they look 'solid' when they are literally scrimming against a t5 team lol
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u/GarrettGSF MOUZ Jun 29 '17
Yea, actually I am more confident than ever before that they will make it to the major and have a chance to make it out of groups. The last tournaments, they have been super unlucky to be "rewarded" with being matched against SK after very good group performances.
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u/Knovolt 1 Million Celebration Jun 29 '17
Oskar is so good, and imo the best on the team. When Niko was still on the team, they were rotating Oskar in/out for some reason. Oskar, ropz and even lowel are just amazing.
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u/Worknewsacct 10 years coin Jun 29 '17
They're dumping on a team that would be tough to consider top 50, that's not really "solid"
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u/Jannekvinna Jun 29 '17
Looking decent, but they're playing the worst team by far in this qualifier.
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u/yikdan de_dust2 Jun 29 '17
First time watching this team, is Ramz1k usually their awper? He's terrible.
Admittedly I'm basing it from 10 rounds, but christ.
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u/metrize Jun 29 '17 edited Jun 29 '17
Can someone unbiasedly tell me if this qualifier is worth watching
Edit: sounds good, thanks guys!
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u/wReckLesss_ Jun 29 '17
If you like any of the teams involved and want to see them in the major, or if you want to see the competition that the bottom eight at the major will bring, then yes.
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u/thekmanpwnudwn 500k Celebration Jun 29 '17
So far its been a lot of close matches. 3 OT matches, 2 went the full 30 rounds. Only one match was lopsided (16-1), and there are only 8 matches a day. If you're interested in what teams will attend the Major next month this is a great event to watch.
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Jun 29 '17
after all 8 matches, only one was one-sided and almost all of them had nailbiting moments. if you like any of the teams i think that makes it worth watching on its own.
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u/Pretok Jun 29 '17
is every loser out if the major?
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u/Roastings Jun 29 '17
You're not eliminates until you have 3 losses. Tomorrow, every team that lost today will play other 1 loss teams, and same for the teams that won today.
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u/Sonoj_13 Jun 29 '17
Is it an 8 team major or 16? there not adding clarification on what the format is... does anyone know?
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Jun 29 '17
For some reason, in the middle of the game, n0thing's name in the kill feed changed to "jordan". What's the deal with that?
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u/HypahCS 1 Million Celebration Jun 29 '17
Been wondering for a while. I think n0thing has changed his name on steam but the PGL overlay shows n0thing.
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u/bourbon312 Jun 29 '17
The HUD is unusable on lower resolution. Not even the scoreboard is visible. Not to mention the drastic change in player list positions that now occupy place that should be health indicator on normal HUD. I hate this pgl version.
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u/Deadly_Toast Jun 29 '17
Almost perfect Aussie time, starts at 4pm. Almost perfect cause RNG is on at 2am...