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Match | Esports The International 10 - Main Event Day 6 Match Discussions
The International 2021 Main Event
Organized and Hosted by Valve Corporation
Sponsored by Valve Corporation and Battle Pass
Main Event
October 12th - October 17th, 2021
Sixteen teams play in a double-elimination bracket
Eight teams begin in the Upper Bracket, eight in the Lower Bracket
First Lower Bracket match is Bo1, Grand Final is Bo5, all others matches are Bo3
Need info on the event? Check out the Survival Guide
Streams
English
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Coverage
Official | Liquipedia | GosuGamers | JoinDota | Dotabuff | Eventvods
Schedule
| ID | Team | vs. | Team | Result | Cntdown (EEST) | PDT | EDT | GMT | CEST | SGT | AEST | Format |
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| LBF | Team Secret | vs | Team Spirit | 1:2 | 10:00 | 0:00 | 3:00 | 7:00 | 9:00 | 15:00 | 18:00 | Bo3 |
| ALL☆ | Team Thunderhide | vs | Team Golem | 0:0 | ARDM | |||||||
| GF | PSG.LGD | vs | 2:3 | 13:00 | 3:00 | 6:00 | 10:00 | 12:00 | 18:00 | 21:00 | Bo3 |
VODs
Team Secret vs Team Spirit: Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3
Team Thunderhide vs Team Golem: Game 1
PSG.LGD vs Secret/Spirit: Game 1 | Game 2 | Game 3 | Game 4 | Game 5
Countdown times are in EEST. All times are subject to change based on the length of matches and delays.
Other match discussions: /r/dota2 on Discord
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u/RedGamesA2 Oct 17 '21
I think Secret has the best chance at beating LGD, with their experience and Heen. However I think Spirit can be Secret but then lose to LGD 3-0 or 3-1
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u/Spirit_Panda Oct 17 '21
They almost had that second game until xinq went ultra-instinct at the end there
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u/podteod Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21
Here's our confirmation that it actually won them the game. People were saying it didn't matter back then and that the diffu was overhyped, but here we have Mind_Control saying that it indeed won then the game
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u/click_again Oct 17 '21
if anything is to challenge LGD's aegis in this TI, it has to be Team Spirit davai's. Nothing else come close
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u/bludgeonerV Oct 17 '21
You're probably right, if LGD have any weaknesses a bunch of crazy fucking Russians will be the ones to find it. Puppey will try and out-think them and pay the price, TORONTOTOKYO will just intuitively do shit that they can't comprehend and throw them off balance.
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u/topologicalfractal Oct 17 '21
Im pretty sure Secret will be playing more balls to the wall in the GF as well, they know their old way doesnt work anymore with LGD
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u/Ellefied Never having Team Flairs again BibleThump Oct 17 '21
Puppey just called Topson Flopson in that interview lmao
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u/podteod Oct 17 '21
It's crazy that secret is the underdog against LGD. PSG is just too good this year
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u/aryamuda98 Oct 17 '21
I stepped away from DOTA since 2018, not following the scene closely. And for me this year TI makes me want to play it again.
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u/Tridink Oct 17 '21
why doesnt the twitch stream say "GRAND FINAL" in the title?? it looks like its just another day of ti...
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Oct 17 '21
My god, Team spirit is so clean. PSG LGD doesn't look like the golliaths they were at the beginning of the tournament. What is going on?!?!
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Oct 17 '21
Dude who the fuck is that commentator with the angelic voice. And no I don't mean Jenkins.
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u/hkmrsrg cogs cockblock when you want to put that last hit in Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21
What kind of draft was that? PSG.LGD pissed me off. They won game 3 vs Magnus because they had Rubick controlling Magnus. They allowed Magnus to go through without a counter, a hero that could have control the Magnus. They could've picked Lion for instant hex, or Shaman, or something. But they picked enchant. Jesus!
Congrats Team Spirit.
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u/V4civity Oct 17 '21
PSG about to permaban Magnus and go 3-0 sadly :c
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u/haaaaaairy1 Oct 17 '21
Still mars, tide and doom in the pool. Can’t ban collapse god
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u/Ravenfromheaven Oct 17 '21
Its my fault fellow LGD fans.
I named my character LGDAmeCopium and processed to get fucked 10 consecutive matches in Apex Legends today.
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u/alfadomino Dota 2 for Sheever Oct 17 '21
Spirit had their picks, LGD had theirs. Spirit played better.
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u/tberal Oct 17 '21
I'm so happy for TS. This is the ultimate Cinderella story and it was amazing.
I have to say though. LGD had them figured out the past two games, then they decided to revert back to their comfort picks and were stomped out of the stage. Why didn't they stick with what was clearly working?
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Oct 17 '21
I want Ame to win so that he will be remembered as one of Dota's Greats.
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u/Makorus sheever Oct 17 '21
Mamamia, what did Secret do in the second half of that game?
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u/ExtraRice Oct 17 '21
I'm pretty sure everyone's bracket has exploded right now. Who ever got it all right should decide all my.life decisions.
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u/dotanesca commend techies Oct 17 '21
It feels so bad if the host doesnt even know dendi. It's like not knowing messi in football or lebron in basketball
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u/Dull_Cheesecake4982 Oct 17 '21
That draft the last game lost it. So much momentum for LGD moving into game 5
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u/ElloYellowHello Oct 17 '21
Might I add that the production value is at 110%. Panel with Sheever Fogged and others, draft analysis with aui, ceb and notail, and casters with insania's insight and OD's hype - it's all on so point.
And TS on the lower bracket run, taking the game 1.
I'm soo hyped man.
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u/PANDA_WARRIORZ Oct 17 '21
Never invite non dota host again please. Or at least hire someone who tries to give a fuck like Machine
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u/Kappatalizable Oct 17 '21
I miss Machine. For some reason he did not feel out of place in the events he was in. Can we just get Machine back and get it over with please
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u/Anton_Chigruh Oct 17 '21
I put my money on Team Spirit, sucker for an underdog story. Hard but they can do it.
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u/bludgeonerV Oct 17 '21
I don't think Secret can out-draft or out-play LGD, but Spirit can out-crazy them and that's really the only way I can see LGD losing.
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u/bajcabrera TI7Champs Oct 17 '21
Was there any announcement on the location for the next TI?
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u/Side_Quester Oct 17 '21
No, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't announce it this TI considering Covid doesn't look like it's going anywhere any time soon.
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u/ars61157 Oct 17 '21
Are those times listed correct? Says that the lower bracket final started an hour ago?
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u/aodum Oct 17 '21
Wierd to have lyrical and Trent together with odpixel and insania.
Synderen and sunsfan should have done GF with odpixel and insania doing lower bracket
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u/UrsusRomanus Oct 17 '21
Honestly if it goes to 5 that's a lot of casting. Probably trading off games.
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u/definitelydane Oct 17 '21
Are all the members of Team Spirit rookies? Like is this their first TI? I can't stay up any longer to check, I've been up 24 hours lol.
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u/Shame_Low Oct 17 '21
Anyone knows what time are the grand finals, is it in 2 hours time?
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u/xian013 Oct 17 '21
2021 CIS teams are esports juggernauts! Dota 2, CS:GO, Valorant
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u/StormShadow743 Oct 17 '21
« Faith_Bian’s been using this Troll for so long like he wants to finish this game with it, to reward it for its servitude. »
Fucking Trent lol
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u/ArtoriasAbysswanker Oct 17 '21
Ame two times 2nd, once 3rd and 4rd. TI victory just keeps avoiding him... :(
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u/Stanley350z Oct 17 '21
lgd doing the eg strat by picking sky in a decisive match and not playing the map for pickoffs KEKW
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u/boogiexx Oct 17 '21
you gotta give it to them lower bracket run and smacked every team worth mentioning,
I love miposhka ''do you even need to play dota after this?''
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u/ccs77 Oct 17 '21
Is this the first time in TI history that the almost everyone will be fine (maybe except NA fans) with any of the last 3 teams winning it all?
You have potentially the greatest underdog story since OG in team spirit. You have puppey finally winning TI 10 years after his last victory... Or matu making it again after getting kicked from Liquid... Or the wings duo who were exiled from the chinese scene and proving to everyone they still have it in them...or Ame redeeming himself from TI8...and NTS the SEA pride...etc
Best story line at TI in a while and all 3 winners will be well deserved and respected. I am loving it
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u/bludgeonerV Oct 17 '21
Agreed completely. Personally I think LGD are going to crush the finals against whoever they face (most likely secret), but I'd be happy with any outcome.
Probably a TS win would be the most hype, but by a tiny margin.
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u/fcuk_the_king Oct 17 '21
What do you mean everyone will be fine? Fans of these teams (and the entirety of cis and CN regions) want their teams to win obviously. Just because you don't see too many Spirit and LGD fans on Eng speaking forums doesn't mean they don't exist.
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u/Pavle93 Oct 17 '21
Fucking hell get this man a translator. He does not need additional anxiety before Grand Final
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u/Bypes Oct 17 '21
Everyone seems to root for Spirit because the story is better, but Secret have been lacking their TI win as much as LGD. I guess I'm just boring for wanting veterans to win before they retire.
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Oct 17 '21
nah, you're not boring. We are in the same page. I want either Puppey lift the aegis once more or Ame . These Veterans deserve it.
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Oct 17 '21
Ti really isnt it without secret choking. Still a very very good Ti run wouldnt have said they will get top3 before ti
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Oct 17 '21
Reddit/Twitch chat in shambles after LGD counterted collapse magnus to cavernous depths.
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u/nsfwftwbaby Oct 17 '21
I usually hate people spamming HYPE, but I will let it slide for this Grand Final of the ages.
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u/RoxyMigurdia BRUCE CHILD Oct 17 '21
im not even gonna get disappointed even when secret lose they already outdone themselves this TI.. im just gonna enjoy some good games today..
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u/VectusZ Oct 17 '21
I want puppey in truesight, but i also want spirit to win for storyline, either way gonna be good day
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u/kabis_kabis_kabis Oct 17 '21
What happens when a player with valid reason wont be able to play a match during TI? Can a sub play?
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u/RxJax Oct 17 '21
Why is the panel talking about the Tide/Willow lane so much when the Morph lane came out like 1000 gold ahead with several kills and propelled the Morph miles ahead
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u/EvulseRevolute Oct 17 '21
They started the conversation talking about how there was nothing contesting morph in lanes and he just had a free pass to farm. They didn’t stick on that topic because it’s obvious to anyone that watched the game that that’s what happened.
Tide/willow however was a much less noticeable advantage but one that significantly helped spirit. They are pointing out the difference between how Secret handled Yatoro-they didn’t-versus how Spirit handled Matumbaman.
I hope this helps.
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Oct 17 '21
I can't wait for the next Truesight! It's a great opportunity for us to get to know the new players from Team Spirit.
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u/Shame_Low Oct 17 '21
I really hope ice can get 1 before he leaves for real, its getting too long, 9 years and counting now.....
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u/DrAgOnLoLDoTA Oct 17 '21
I want the former Wings players to win TI again but Team Spirit man. Guess I will be neutral for this final and just enjoy it
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u/sling_gun Oct 17 '21
Minute 20-30 tiny farmed instead of running at radiant. Wanted to farm late game against a TB, Magnus, Ember. Ez throw
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u/calam1ty Oct 17 '21
Team spirit story is the most hype but i want LGD to win this TI. These players deserve TI more than ever.
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u/kimmiebap Oct 17 '21
Draft panel = TI champions poggggg
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u/Itchigatzu Oct 17 '21
Pro player analysts have so much better takes imo although Ephey has been on point this tournament as well
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u/GardnerMinshew2nd Oct 17 '21
I'll quote someone here...
"Thank you Team Spirit for taking out the trash."
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u/Clusterrr Ice is nice! Oct 17 '21
Valve has to rework Batrider. He is utter garbage now that Magnus functions almost exactly the same, only better.
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u/Decentralalaland Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21
The battle for the second place. All I know is that TS will win it, 100%.
Also, if I were Puppey or Heen, I would be so confused and scared. Do we ban Mira's Weaver, Snapfire and Io, or Miposhka's Bane and Disruptor, or TORONTOTOKYO's Ember Spirit, Lina and Invoker, or Collapse's Mars, Magnus and Tide, or Yatoro's 69 carry heroes?
It's going to be such a great day of Dota 2, regardless!
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Oct 17 '21
Dude team spirit is so good, I hope if they lose they stick as the current team cause they are for sure winning in the next year or two if not this one.
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u/AgitatedAlduin El Presidente >>> Everyone Oct 17 '21
Yes why the fuck not. Frankie the absolute shitfest of a host on the final day.
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Oct 17 '21
I honestly want Spirit to win so that LGD can crush them in the finals so no one starts parroting that "Spirit would have beat LGD if they beat Secret!" bullshit that were going to hear if Secret beat Spirit then lose to LGD.
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u/haaaaaairy1 Oct 17 '21
You’re just parroting that yourself lmao. We just want to see lgd vs a different team after they manhandled secret yesterday
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Oct 17 '21
Who is the British chick, am I way out of the loop? I've never seen her before this ti
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u/skewnwsz Oct 17 '21
Chadson Pog. He's quite enjoyable to watch even his Hoodwink vs Secret.😂 That's his strength and weakness. You'll never know with Topson. Hope he doesnt retire yet.
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u/yerebelstale Oct 17 '21
look. we all know LGD is going to win. but if Spirit did pull it out somehow, would that be four royal roads in one fell swoop?
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u/tberal Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21
Guys, didn't liquid beat everyone on the lower bracket in TI 7 after being defeated by IG on the upper bracket, then destroyed a LGD team that was stomping everyone in the upper bracket in the finals? Am I misremembering?
Because holy crap I started thinking about the parallels and now I'm overreacting.
E: I'm definitely misremembering, LGD.fy was the LB finals. They faced newbee on the finals. Well, that was short lived
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u/Rapuga Oct 17 '21
anybody knows who the chinese translator is?
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u/mizaaki Oct 17 '21
Theres a video about her presenting herself https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ
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u/KiloMegaGigaTera out of my way! Oct 17 '21
You're playing against Team Spirit
You don't ban Magnus because you can counter him
You lose because Magnus' Collapse
You don't ban Magnus next game because there is no next game
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u/SolarClipz ENVY'S #1 FAN Oct 17 '21
I kind of want Team Spirit to win, so we can see how their style matches up to LGD. And we could be robbed of an all-time series if we never get to see it
I don't think Secret has what it takes...but maybe Spirit has a better shot
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u/HijoDelUrysohn Oct 17 '21
I don't think I can take the exitement. I'll tune in when LGD is on match point and 15k gold up - no way that can go wrong, right?
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u/Vadered Sheever Oct 17 '21
First series is worth an extra $320,160 per person.
Finals are worth $2,601,180 per person.
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u/FutureVawX Wards everywhere Oct 17 '21
Going with 5 Secret players for fantasy, but I'm rooting for Spirit to go to grand final and LGD to be the champion.
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u/chillinwithmoes Oct 17 '21
There are very, very few things that I'm excited to wake up at 5am for and this is right up there. Let's gooooooooo
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u/calexanich Liquid are Doing it!! Oct 17 '21
man i never thought Team Spirit would get this far, they have really shown up at this TI
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Oct 17 '21
It seems that the amazing run of Team Spirit to the grand finals overshadowed how good PSG.LGD is. But we will see.. whoever of the 2 lift the aegis deserves it. Its always amazing to watch these two :)
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u/Leeeroyyy Oct 17 '21
So how does grandfinals work? Does PSG have to lose the match/set twice if the team from losers bracket happens to win since it's double elimination, or do they only get one life even though the lower bracket team got a 2nd one?
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u/after-lunch Oct 17 '21
Feel like lgd want to give TI to TS with their final draft. God, i don't even understand why they draft like that. Feel bad man, been rooting for LGD since ti8 :((
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u/bkstr Oct 17 '21
I think this was the best final for me since EG, maybe better if I wasn’t biased honestly. Wow, dota is beautiful. we have the best esport.
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u/Hennessee Oct 17 '21
This was completely scripted. Give Spirit the worst room at the hotel to them working their way through LB to being in the grand final, bravo TI writers, you’ve outdone yourselves.
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u/fgambler Oct 17 '21
That girl that played in the showmatch could have been one of the hosts, if I'm not mistaken her name is Sheepsticked. she seems to be familiar with Dota 2 and the scene. And she's funny.
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Oct 17 '21
It seems that the amazing run of Team Spirit to the grand finals overshadowed how good PSG.LGD is. But we will see.. last game ahead and whoever of the 2 lift the aegis deserves it. Its always amazing to watch these two :)
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u/ledditpepega Oct 17 '21
Wow chinese fans are vocal about the TI10 finals and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way the series is going and the whole chinese te getting BTFO at ANOTHER TI final and not winning a TI since TI6 thing. I guess they were holding out hope for a china numba wan route. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the series score changed. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.
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u/restless_oblivion For sheever Oct 17 '21
a one trick pony.. and you give them their trick.. god damn it LGD
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u/simonling Oct 17 '21
To all Spirit fans, WELL DONE! Amazing run to the Grand Finals of TI. But I'm sorry it's gonna stop here.
My boy NTS will make Malaysians proud by lifting the aegis! SEA represented!
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u/slurpycow112 Oct 17 '21
I honestly am going to be so happy whoever wins this year.
LGD finally getting the w after being top 4 at TI for 4 years in a row (and coming so close at TI8)
My man Puppey breaking the TI curse with Secret and getting his second TI win
Spirit with the underdog story absolutely tearing through the lower bracket
Can't think of any 3 teams more deserving today. I'm just hoping for 8 hype games!