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Discussion | Esports mousesports vs Cloud9 / ELEAGUE Major Boston 2018 - The New Challengers: Round 3 / Post-Match Discussion
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Train: 5-16
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MAP 1: Train
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| mouz | 4 | 1 | 5 |
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| C9 | 11 | 5 | 16 |
| mouz | K | A | D | Rating |
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| ropz | 17 | 3 | 16 | 1.12 |
| suNny | 16 | 2 | 15 | 1.01 |
| chrisJ | 11 | 3 | 19 | 0.70 |
| oskar | 8 | 1 | 20 | 0.53 |
| STYKO | 8 | 2 | 17 | 0.43 |
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| autimatic | 25 | 2 | 9 | 2.00 |
| tarik | 14 | 3 | 9 | 1.34 |
| Stewie2K | 17 | 5 | 14 | 1.20 |
| Skadoodle | 15 | 3 | 13 | 1.14 |
| RUSH | 16 | 2 | 15 | 1.04 |
Train Detailed Stats
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u/Felpes1520 Jan 15 '18
playing C9 on train... people dont learn smh
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u/Ajp_iii Jan 15 '18
it was the same people who would play optic on train. rush and tarik are some of the best at playing ebox/ladder
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u/rustyjame5 1 Million Celebration Jan 15 '18
when astralis was the best train team towards the ends of 2016 optic was the best team to watch on train. those coordinated a site rushes were amazing.
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u/healdyy 1 Million Celebration Jan 15 '18
It really is no surprise that C9 are so good on it for that reason. Also, I feel like train has been a good map for the other 3 for a while as well even in the previous roster. There’s no way you should be allowing train in a bo1 against C9
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u/windirein Jan 15 '18
Well you guys say that but the last 3 train matches mouz had were against astralis, optic and gambit. And mouz won all of them. There was no reason to not go for train. Both teams are good on it.
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u/CJayHe NiP Jan 15 '18 edited Jan 15 '18
They also lost out on a major spot because they lost to C9 on it at Krakow. C9 has beat SK, Astralis, Renegades, BIG, Optic, Na'Vi, and now Mouse on it. There's a difference between how good Mouse is on it and it being a strong map for C9. Mouse could've tried their chances at Inferno or Overpass but they banned both of those and went for C9's best map rn.
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u/control_09 EG Jan 15 '18
I know seriously, pick any other map.
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Jan 15 '18
I mean they should have literally first ban Train, and start veto like that... Everything else is just stupidity.
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u/control_09 EG Jan 15 '18
Yeah and this really applies to every team except maybe SK.
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u/stewieeeeeeeee FaZe Jan 15 '18
If mouz floated Overpass and banned Inferno first, I guarantee C9 would ban Overpass instead of Mirage and then mouz could have gone for Mirage instead of Train.
Even on the off-chance that C9 would refloat Overpass and ban Mirage, mouz could have just achieved the same result (Train) so floating Overpass was the superior choice here.
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u/GeneralBlade Liquid Jan 15 '18
The fact Tarik is IGLing and fragging like that is incredible, I'm super pumped for seeing them in the major.
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u/DontWant2BHere Jan 15 '18
Tarik is underrated but he'll be overrated by the end of this major
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u/Pizza_and_Reddit CS2 HYPE Jan 15 '18
D E G G I R
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I kept looking at your comment then back at the image trying to find the D E G G I R until I finally figured it out, fuck I'm dumb.
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u/Syrov Jan 15 '18
Not only that: all but one of them have 16 rounds won! What a coincidence... this is such a scripted event
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u/PM_ME_SADPANDA_LINKS cs_office Jan 15 '18
Ayyy, C9 faced a decent opponent and didn't immediately crumble
I'm super gay for autimatic btw
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u/AngriestGamerNA Liquid Jan 15 '18
I mean, C9 has a good record against mousesports in general, it's been clear they're the better team for some time.
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u/ClassyChameleon Jan 15 '18
which is insane bc mousesports do well against faze whereas we just go full silver
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u/branduNe Jan 15 '18
SK usually beats C9, G2 usually beats SK, C9 usually beats G2
Circle of life
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u/PM_ME_SADPANDA_LINKS cs_office Jan 15 '18
Yeah, they've always been good against mouz. It's more the "2-0 in a major swiss system" that worried me
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u/areyoujokinglol EG Jan 15 '18
C9 might struggle against the top 4, but they are seriously probably the best in the world at shutting down teams ranked lower than them.
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Jan 15 '18
it's the casual+careless thing, right? just drives me nuts that he brushes off my advances, i want him more than ever
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u/stewieeeeeeeee FaZe Jan 15 '18
Mousesports made a bad veto decision, IMO. C9 would ban Overpass for them if mousesports floated it, and it was somewhat clear that mouz wouldn't let Inferno through in the end. Could have ended up on Mirage (which is what I thought it would be before the match) instead of Train.
The early weird buys are a mouz trademark but this game showed why they aren't popular among top teams. The economy managament was absolutely horrendous from mousesports. Was there a single full 5 rifle/AWP + utility buy from mousesports on T side in the first 10 rounds?!
I hope C9 fix their outside defence against the Rank S strats, though. The outside rush is a powerful weapon in the right hands and C9 didn't handle it well. Everything else was amazing, though. Tim's 17th round is one for the books and his overall performance was very inspired.
Shoutout to my boy /u/sarthak94 who is a huge C9 fan. He now has a promise to keep! Imgur link of shaved head asap please.
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u/vvFury Renegades Jan 15 '18 edited Jan 15 '18
That guy (/u/sarthak94) is actually such an idiot it's hilarious.
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Jan 15 '18
It doesn't even stop on Reddit, he also manages to be extremely petty and idiotic on Twitter too.
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u/ryeguy Jan 15 '18
Yeah I'm beginning to recognize his name now. He shows up in any thread that's negative about gambit. He also hates thorin due to thorin predicting faze > gambit and getting it wrong.
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u/Goldcobra MOUZ Jan 15 '18 edited Jan 15 '18
Mousesports made a bad veto decision, IMO. C9 would ban Overpass for them if mousesports floated it, and it was somewhat clear that mouz wouldn't let Inferno through in the end.
Yeah, mouz banned their worst maps but didn't at all think about what maps C9 would ban. They had the last pick so in the worst case scenario they could've just banned Overpass last if C9 didn't.
Edit: Huh, tarik just said they expected Overpass or Inferno. Inferno I kinda get (would've probably been the better option in hindsight), but Overpass is pretty much a 100% ban for mouz.
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u/kkidrc Jan 15 '18
downvoted 17 times? jesus man
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u/stewieeeeeeeee FaZe Jan 15 '18
Deserves 1700 but I stopped downvoting when I realized he's a complete tool
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u/AngriestGamerNA Liquid Jan 15 '18
Why would he make that bet when C9 beat Mousesports in a bo3 not long ago and has far better results and ranking in general. Makes you really wonder.
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u/Delvez Virtus.pro Jan 15 '18
Yeah those buys are really not worth the risk IMO, especially when you don’t have a top 5 rifler who you’re dropping the AK to.
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I love how tim kept using his deagle for no reason
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u/Grec2k Jan 15 '18
he actually had reasons. Especially on the last 1on1, he knew he did heavy dmg to him and he felt more comfortable landing one bodyshot with a deagle.
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Tactically, it makes 0 sense to use the deag, especially when he knew he was very hurt. I believe he had a famas, and 1-2 bullets woulda killed either way. Missing that first deagle shot could have costed him more than missing your first rifle shot. He used deag for style, not because it was the best play.
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Jan 15 '18
Who picks train vs C9?
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u/control_09 EG Jan 15 '18
Who's better on it? Like SK and that's it? Maybe VP if they are in form?
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Jan 15 '18
That was his point. And probably Astralis still too.
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u/windirein Jan 15 '18
Mouz beat astralis, VP and gambit on train. Why would they not pick it against C9?
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Jan 15 '18
Cloud 9 played really well nobody can take that form them but it is really painful to watch.
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u/Angrydwarf99 Jan 15 '18
Predicted C9 as 3-0 and Flash as 0-3. Feelsgoodman.
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u/AlexT__ de_mirage Jan 15 '18
Safe to say you're the literal only person who has properly predicted the 0-3, 3-0's
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u/ajwhite98 Jan 15 '18
That was pretty anticlimactic, tbh. Was hoping for a good game, but mouz just didn't show up.
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u/ChefBoyardab Jan 15 '18
can someone explain to me why mousesports chose train?
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u/deepr EG Jan 15 '18
Probably tried to pull a "surprise card" out but teams forget that they should consider their strengths sometimes
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u/bananaBicepss CS2 HYPE Jan 15 '18
What a T side tim had! 3-0 boys lets go!!
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u/ClassyChameleon Jan 15 '18
honestly it's insane how any of the c9 players can go superstar at anytime
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u/bananaBicepss CS2 HYPE Jan 15 '18
Yap, rush had an amazing game aswell, tarik was locking pop pretty much by himself, ska hitting the shots he should hit, and stewie locking up b site even if he was a bit quiet
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u/MyUserSucks EG Jan 15 '18
He was quiet because half the time Mouz just died in tcon and pop and didnt touch b
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u/oomnahs Liquid Jan 15 '18
I think just as easily they can go Bot mode but someone on C9 will always step it up and hard carry
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u/Ontyyyy CS2 HYPE Jan 15 '18 edited Jan 15 '18
What a fucking joke, you pick Train against one of the best train teams in the world and then you run the same strats you do everytime, bringing nothing new and expecting to win.
Enjoy drawing FaZe you fucking idiots.
EDIT: Dodged the fucking bullet right there, don't fuck this up. SS it is.
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u/AnonymousUserLikeYou King NiKo Jan 15 '18
Not to mention Oskar and chrisJ were missing for literally half the match.
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Jeepers calm down man.
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u/Ontyyyy CS2 HYPE Jan 15 '18
I stayed up for this shit, thats why I'm pissed lol.
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Jan 15 '18
Why say lol? Own your rage. I'd be pissed if I was you.
I'm still raging from RNG.
nolol
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u/xVale de_train Jan 15 '18
I hoped mouz would win and go through because they match really well against FaZe for some reason and have beaten them in bo1s many times.
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u/DontWant2BHere Jan 15 '18
Our IGL, who art in Cloud9
Tarik be thy name,
Thy brain be watermelon
Thy calls be 200 IQ
On LAN as in Rank S
Give us this day our daily content,
And forgive us for being emo
As we forgive those who stream snipe
And lead us not into Minors,
But deliver us a Major Championship.
In the name of Summer, Skadaddy,and the hopes of NA
WE HAWT
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Jan 15 '18
last night ropz asked jr if cloud9 were good. I think he knows now
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u/Ajp_iii Jan 15 '18
only rounds mouse won on t side is when they had fast rushes. they had no way to stop tarik and rush on outer yard. if you cant get the outer yard players to move out of ladder and ebox you cant win train
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u/ThetaSigma11 Liquid Jan 15 '18
HOLY SHIT THE BOYS DID IT
rip my 3-0
BUT WHO CARES C9 WENT 3-0 LETS GO
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Jan 15 '18
Another win for Juvenile Stewart Dual Millenium
Also Cloud9 saved my 3-0 Pickem
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u/RoseL123 Liquid Jan 15 '18
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u/8bitremixguy Jan 15 '18
thank mr skadoodle
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u/CarWashKid9 1 Million Celebration Jan 15 '18
Our IGL, who art in Cloud9
Stewie2k be thy name,
Thy smokes be pushed,
Thy aim be crisp,
Versus EU as if versus NA
Give us this day our daily reddit clip,
And forgive us our hating
As we forgive those who [go out in groups] (https://twitter.com/isc9outofgroups)
And lead us not into Minors,
But deliver us a Major Championship.
In the name of Summer, Skadaddy,and the hopes of NA
Sup Bitch
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u/DontWant2BHere Jan 15 '18
Our IGL, who art in Cloud9
Tarik be thy name,
Thy brain be watermelon
Thy calls be 200 IQ
On LAN as in Rank S
Give us this day our daily content,
And forgive us for being emo
As we forgive those who stream snipe
And lead us not into Minors,
But deliver us a Major Championship.
In the name of Summer, Skadaddy,and the hopes of NA
WE HAWT
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u/patrincs Jan 15 '18
stew isn't even the IGL :D
Nice uh... prayer? tho
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u/CarWashKid9 1 Million Celebration Jan 15 '18
yeah It's a copy pasta from a long time ago, I was just happy they smashed Mousesports so hard
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u/yeahsurethatswhy Jan 15 '18
Isn't tarik the C9 igl right now?
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u/CarWashKid9 1 Million Celebration Jan 15 '18
Yes he is, this is a really old copy pasta
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u/iErebos Jan 15 '18
ez 4 North American multigaming organization cloud9 hosting the North American counter-strike: global offensive roster from the United States who won "dreamhack open Denver 2017" and "ibuypower masters 2017", and reached the semi-finals at "eleague cs:go premier 2017", "IEM xii oakland", "dreamhack Montreal 2017" and "ESL one New York 2017" consisting of NAs yungest jake "stop pushing the smokes" yip, the NA turret tyler "there were no skins to trace" latham, the new na igl hope tarik "peanut brain" celek, fearless entry will "does this guy talk less than skadoodle" wierzba, and all around star and support timothy "online piece of Asian shit" ta
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u/-Umbra- CS2 HYPE Jan 15 '18
c9 outplayed mouz in every way, lovely to see. More proof that C9 is a top 5 team
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u/howdybear Virtus.pro Jan 15 '18
tfw mousesports let train through
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u/LucKygg de_cobble Jan 15 '18
C9 definitely got a fortuitous first two Swiss system matchups, but you can't take this one away from them. Mouz has been looking pretty solid as of late. I don't know why Mouz let it go to Train, but Cloud9 took care of them.
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u/antelope591 Jan 15 '18
Damn autimatic dicked on them pretty hard...just pulling out deagle for fun.
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u/againstebrexite Jan 15 '18
trying to imagine someone putting C9 to 3-0
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u/AstBernard Astralis Jan 15 '18
care to explain why not?
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u/againstebrexite Jan 15 '18
considering that there were many strong teams in the minor + the fact that c9 can be inconsistent, its a very risky pick to put as a 3-0
but they proved me wrong so whatevs
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u/Solruc tactics Jan 15 '18
I almost did but I thought FaZe was a safer choice LMAO
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u/enigma890 King NiKo Jan 15 '18
Friendly tip, don’t use your 3-0 pick on someone favored. It’s only worth 1 point same as advance, just put them in the team to advance and take the safe point and put your weakest team you think will go through in the 3-0.
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Jan 15 '18
They had ez draws with envy and sprout
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u/Totllynotadinosaur Jan 15 '18
Envy shouldn't have been as easy a draw as they were/are, but rpk was sick and that must've affected the whole team
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u/Hyper_red EG Jan 15 '18 edited Jan 15 '18
I don't think most C9 fans thought they could do a 3-0 too
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u/Patriccckkk The MongolZ Jan 15 '18
inb4 mouse get paired with faze and lose and then choke on their 2-2 game
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u/MeanGreenBeanMachine FaZe Jan 15 '18
You don't pick train against c9. And cobble on some occasions.
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u/prsTgs_Chaos clutch Jan 15 '18 edited Jan 15 '18
Happy for Stew man. Worked hard to go pro very early and doing it how he wanted. He was kinda the lynch pin that gave way to this whole new C9 class. Such a controversial pick up at the time and for him to be that young and take the reigns on saying they should pick up auti, then being such a big proponent of Tarik shows a lot of leadership ability. Hes not afraid to stick his neck out in the org despite being young and new. Now they have a much stronger lineup because of it made up of guys who Matt not have been as big of stars with a different group.
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u/super_shogun Complexity Jan 15 '18
Really well played from C9, I thought Mouz was going to take this. I hope this is the same C9 that shows up the major, they'll definitely make it far if that's the case.
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u/JBlaze71 Jan 15 '18
just saw c9 only gave up 21 rounds in the 3 games. hopefully they play this good in the round of 16
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u/iRonak Liquid Jan 15 '18
autimatic popped off that game. A 2.0 rating vs a decent opponent is really solid
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u/Sergeant__Slash Jan 15 '18
I like C9, so I'm not mad, but why the hell would you willingly play C9 on Train???
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u/r3al_se4l 500k Celebration Jan 15 '18
ez major for C9 without dropping a map 88-0 incoming confirmed
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u/Pro_Elo_Booster Jan 15 '18
I think after beating mouz C9 are probably the best team in the world
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u/Grec2k Jan 15 '18
The first 5 rounds where won by rush himself, his frags had so much impact its unbelievable. And tim...oh boy this guy is a Treasure.
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u/oomnahs Liquid Jan 15 '18
Everyone on C9 pulled their weight and dominated. Second half tim said "aight enough of this pussy shit" and remembered he was a god.
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u/constantdeceleration clutch Jan 15 '18
Thanks for not banning train
Did not regret watching this in class
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u/MyUserSucks EG Jan 15 '18
If anyone has a souvenir from that game autographed by tarik/tim please message me for trade
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If C9 keeps playing like this, they have a good shot of going all the way to the finals. Sure, Astralis, SK, and FaZe pose threats but if this team keeps playing like it does, we could see them even winning it, how fucking sick would it be to see a Cloud9 vs Fnatic rematch from the ESL ESEA Pro League season 1 finals all those years ago...
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u/Staggvillainy Jan 15 '18
What is c9's map pool, exactly? I'm guessing it's Train, Mirage, Cache, Overpass?
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u/kulaiid Jan 15 '18 edited Aug 13 '24
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u/stormtro0perN 1 Million Celebration Jan 15 '18
anyone know where I can see the game now ? like a VoD or something ? :)
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u/AWPPlayer3 de_mirage Jan 15 '18
You can watch it here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/218513997?t=08h57m42s
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u/byronbb Jan 15 '18
Impressed with automatic and rush these guys aren't streamers so I dont know much about them but they were ice cold killers.
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u/Staggvillainy Jan 15 '18
Rush played a dirty CT side.
Autimatic played a nasty T side.
ggwp boiz