r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Jan 14 '18
Discussion | Esports Flash Gaming vs Team EnVyUs / ELEAGUE Major Boston 2018 - The New Challengers: Round 3 / Post-Match Discussion
Flash Gaming 0-1 Team EnVyus
Inferno: 13-16
Flash Gaming have been eliminated.
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MAP: Inferno
| Team | CT | T | Total |
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| Flash | 3 | 10 | 13 |
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| nV | 12 | 4 | 16 |
| Flash | K | A | D | Rating |
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| Summer | 28 | 3 | 20 | 1.34 |
| Attacker | 28 | 3 | 21 | 1.26 |
| LOVEYY | 20 | 4 | 22 | 1.10 |
| kaze | 18 | 1 | 22 | 0.94 |
| Karsa | 9 | 6 | 20 | 0.77 |
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| Happy | 26 | 7 | 20 | 1.26 |
| ScreaM | 21 | 6 | 23 | 1.15 |
| SIXER | 18 | 6 | 16 | 1.13 |
| RpK | 23 | 5 | 22 | 1.07 |
| xms | 17 | 7 | 22 | 0.83 |
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Jan 14 '18
Even when nV win they’re disappointing.
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Jan 14 '18
One day we will have a good Asian team
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Jan 14 '18
c9
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u/Dreamare 400k Celebration Jan 14 '18
It's only 2/5ths Asian, that rounds down to 0. That's how math works, I'm pretty sure.
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u/gusfindsaspaceship Renegades Jan 14 '18
Tarik is Turkish, so 3/5, but you also gotta count valens, so 4/6
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u/SixerMostAdorable Jan 14 '18
Pretty sure Turkish people don't see themselfs as Asian.
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u/YaqootK Jan 14 '18
Why wouldn't they? Turkey is (mostly) in Asia. My family are Pakistani and we refer to ourselves as Asian.
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u/MutantMeerkat Jan 15 '18
Do it on a logarithmetic scale, 2/5 rounds up to 5/5. C9 100% Asian confirmed.
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u/Dragon_Fisting Tyloo Jan 14 '18
There are definitely enough good Chinese + Bntet for a team, but drama and org disputes will keep them apart forever.
Attacker, fancy1, Bntet, Savage, and Nobody, easy major contender.
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Jan 14 '18
Shit after this qualifier I'm really digging Kaze, guy has potential and with a bit more experience playing the big boys I think he could be a seriously scary and versatile awper. Speaks english too, so if Flash doesn't work out his way then there's always more opportunities
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u/majorcole Jan 15 '18
You guys don't get the issue though. It's not the line up or talent, that's clearly there. It's just teamplay, strategy and tactics that other regions have built for years, this cultural meta. They just need to have to ability to attend bigger tournaments, get more experience and expand their region. Imo I have seen growth in the Asian teams just this last year.
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u/four_webs_playside 5 years coin Jan 14 '18
rip CRAZYGUY (that one lan vs nV - the end of that lan)
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Jan 14 '18
Attacker was insane. Kaze had a decent showing as well, but ultimately fizzled out while the rest were a shit show with whiffs everywhere. Pretty sure this team will be back considering their capabilities against top tier competition. They just made a lot of rookie mistakes which really showed their inexperience. Gotta give them props for how well they did compared to the other rookie entries.
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u/Dog_Backwards_is_God valeria Jan 14 '18
QBF 0-3 picker almost got hyped that the other 50% wont get the pick right either
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Jan 14 '18
Sorry but no excuse for not picking flash
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u/MajorC99 Complexity Jan 14 '18
My excuse is picking Quantum before flash was announced to replace Tyloo.
Also not knowing that I could change them...
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u/Dog_Backwards_is_God valeria Jan 14 '18
without the throw yesterday qbf would probably be 0-3 now, luckily i picked flash tho
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u/Kaserbeam Renegades Jan 14 '18
i wouldn't call it a throw, it was a pretty decisive stomping the whole game
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u/r3al_se4l 500k Celebration Jan 14 '18
was hoping Flash would win so that nV would disband
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u/Aakurb Jan 14 '18
They will have changes anyway.
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u/bvsty Jan 14 '18
They just have to
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u/Kinglord12 Jan 14 '18
Navi+NV = RPK Scream S1mple flamie happy/zeus. /s
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u/PM_ME_SADPANDA_LINKS cs_office Jan 14 '18
I was hoping Flash would win so I could bait post about the minors
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u/AK_SAVAGE Vitality Jan 14 '18
-sixer +random LEM french awper will already be an uprade
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u/_Vondas Jan 14 '18
i dont speak french and im not a good awper but I will play for half salary. go sign fast
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Jan 14 '18
I recently ranked up to MG2 and I speak French. I also bought an awp once. Where do I sign?
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u/Falt_ssb Jan 14 '18
Congrats to happy for finding the one team his lurking still works against then almost blowing it
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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Jan 14 '18
Well I got my 0-3 pick em, but I also picked EnvyUs to go through. Doubt that's happening.
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Jan 14 '18
EnvyUs was awful, I was actually rooting for them to go 0-3.
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Jan 14 '18
I think I have heart problems now. Holy shit, Attacker is good, but EnVy played like trash today on CT.
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u/Troll3r_Man Vitality Jan 14 '18
Ffs I feel like a 70 year old man because of this stress nV gives me.
undeserved win
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u/StarkLX Liquid Jan 14 '18
Hopefully after this tournament this is the last we see of this NV roster.
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u/palladists Astralis Jan 14 '18
I have rare been that excited watching a cs match, I really wanted Flash to go all the way.
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u/Renovatio_ Jan 14 '18
So this was Flash's first tier 1 tourney and they got invited days before.
They didn't do too bad. I'm actually kind of impressed. They got a lot of work to do but they aren't starting from scratch. Looking forward to more from these guys.
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u/_Nickified Jan 15 '18
They definetly surprised me with their showings. As a Flash Fan, even i would knew they wouldn't fair much against these Tier1/2 teams.
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u/Renovatio_ Jan 15 '18
Well it is their first big tournament. But there is potential.
Considering the 0-3 teams. Flash > Flipside. I hope they make through the next minors.
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Jan 14 '18
Great match ruined by awful commentary
Hey HenryG, stop "telling" viewers what's going to happen and just cast the action in front of you.
You really cheapen the experience when you go "oh well it doesn't matter EnVyUS is going to win this game" at 12-2 and then renege on that and spend the entire rest of the cast going "oh wow I'm absolutely shocked that this second half is playing out entirely differently than the first, who ever would have thought".
The cast becomes more about you being surprised you're wrong and less about the fantastic game being played. And of course the only way to rationalise that is by shitting on EnVy, telling us they will disband, and saying how terrible they are playing, as opposed to complimenting the underdog side for stepping up.
It really really brings the whole experience down.
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u/Futurecs-go Vitality Jan 14 '18
Can we just kill this team and start fresh, watching french cs makes me want to die
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u/AI0N Jan 14 '18
so is le TANK good?
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u/Falt_ssb Jan 14 '18
Apparently he's pretty sick and he's still making xms look like someone out of lem
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u/iSluff Jan 14 '18
I don't see how nV is gonna make it any further in this quali unless they get a lucky draw like avangar/f3 or quantum
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u/reflexmaster123 ENCE Jan 14 '18
holy shit envy wtf was that. almost gone. my heart cant handle this
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u/CruiseShipPotatoChip Jan 14 '18
Nv didnt deserve this as much as I like them.
Good fight from Flash for a last-minute replacement team. Attacker with the only aces of the major so far.
Nv is trash.
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Jan 14 '18
EV plays like shit. Good thing Flash is shitter. Seriously if this goes on I doubt NV can win the next game whoever their opponent may be
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u/LifoGifo Vitality Jan 14 '18
Well, at least nV haven't finished last place at the major as usual.
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u/just_a_casual Jan 14 '18
I wish there was a replay of that round sixer was holding banana with AWP. It didn't look like he missed. Game would have ended sooner if that shot hit.
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u/Usernamesin2016LUL Cloud9 Jan 14 '18
Fucking hell envyus seriously? What the actual fuck was that second half? That genuinely made me upset seeing how bad they were playing
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u/TheGreatHoneyBadger Liquid Jan 14 '18
For someone who was actively rooting against Flash for the pick'em, I must say they played very well over this whole tournament for a fill-in team. They went 16-11 vs G2 which isn't a bad result, and the close games against QBF and Envy proved that they could at least trade a couple punches with the teams here. GG Flash!
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u/MasterStamGr Renegades Jan 14 '18
i really hope envy get eliminated fast,just to see them finally changing their whole situation pick up zywoo and kio and start this all over like please,envy i am such a fan but you are so dissapointing x.x
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u/DestroVX CS2 HYPE Jan 14 '18
This team makes so mad. Make a change, this line up unf will lead to nothing.
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u/throwaway9901234 G2 Jan 14 '18
I had a meme prepared incase if flash won
But now no chance :( thank nV
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u/Vegan_Thenn Jan 14 '18
Although the frags might make it seem like summer was doing the hard carrying but it was actually attacker. The amount of composure and skill attacker has shown this tournament and this match specifically is impressive. NV need a major shuffle in the lineup.
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u/alyeiska Jan 14 '18
Attacker is so good. If Karsa could've stepped up, Flash would've won the game. Such a shame.
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u/schoki560 King NiKo Jan 14 '18
Kind of sad to see what happened to happy
Used to be, in 2015, such a strong rifler,aimer,awper that played incredibly smart. Nowadays it feels like he loses 95% of the even aimduels he takes
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u/Yekab0f Jan 14 '18
He was cheating in 2014 during his time in ldlc 100% explains the drop off prob
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u/FugaziAlt de_dust2 Jan 14 '18
I'm happy cuz my 0-3 was saved, but I'm 100% sure EnVy won't make it to top 16. -1 point :(
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u/tarangk clutch Jan 14 '18
just fucking bringing in kio at least omfg how bad can you be from 12-3 t side inferno to barely scrapping 16-13 >.>
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u/ImCewl13 FaZe Jan 14 '18
I think Flash did good, they went here last minute without prep and even though they are the first ones out they still weren’t absolutely destroyed and got some close games!
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u/epicnerd427 Splyce Jan 14 '18
Attacker seemed like the best player in the server. Both teams played so sloppy and it was bad to watch. Inexcusable from Nv. Sixed and xms need to go. They couldnt even perform against what is probably the worst team at the major. They are dead weight.
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u/SirBlobfishIV Jan 14 '18
Completely agree, sixer does nothing but disappoint me and xms does nothing but piss me off.
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u/BuckNekkid18 Jan 14 '18
Zywoo and Kio pls. Happy AWP on CT side, and 5 AK set up on T.
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u/epicnerd427 Splyce Jan 14 '18
If i remember correctly, Zywoo isn't gonna go full time until he is done with school. He would be a good upgrade though. Kio would be a huge upgrade over XMS as well, i totally agree with that one
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u/arcanecolour Jan 14 '18
What happened to RPK? Looked like the dude was having a panic attack.
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u/Sonlin Jan 15 '18
Scream says he's sick https://www.hltv.org/news/22470/scream-rpk-is-really-sick-he-cant-even-walk
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Jan 14 '18
Man, I was already writing my disappointment thread and excitement to see the new french shuffle at the 12-14 round.
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u/Gugugrxrx Jan 14 '18
Oh no flash got 13 rounds vs envy instead of only 11! Looks like happy should murder suicide the entire team xd
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Jan 14 '18
Not bad. I have a few roster ideas:
SIXER to G2 for bodyy, gives EnVy a better AWPer and SIXER reunites with KennyS.
xms goes out for kioShiMa
Somewhat unrelated:
Zywoo to LDLC for DEVIL
xms takes Zywoo's place on aAa.
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u/Kawooo Jan 14 '18
One day, maybe one day, HenryG will stop bitching about EnVy's "fall in grace".
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u/supturkishcs de_cache Jan 14 '18
Flash played well actually
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u/Rearfeeder2Strong MOUZ Jan 14 '18
Controller? Hes not great but his aim isn't a "controller" like aimer. Honestly hes still better then 99.9% of the people. This is not controller aim dont be crazy.
Aiming like that checking corner by corner isnt even a bad idea as his crosshair is perfectly where it should be except for the last sec.
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u/Rearfeeder2Strong MOUZ Jan 14 '18
Are you kidding me? Hes keeping him aim there to perfect a d out to a corner where happy might sit more likely(like the off angle left aside newbox). It was head level and hes just preaiming it (close to blue barrels) before strafing out so he can stop perfectly and just click.
The random stutters arent even that bad. Ever seen Xantares? Guy is like constantly flicking and adjusting his aim and it works fine.
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u/Xamuel1804 de_inferno Jan 14 '18 edited Jan 14 '18
His crosshair was always on the blue barrel because he wanted to horizontally align his crosshair with the different angles the enemy could have been and peek with a faster strafe.
Not saying it was the better way of peeking in that situation but its by no means "controller aim".
Edit: Visualisation: https://i.imgur.com/8IfaSAB.png
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Jan 14 '18
his crosshair was almost always on the blue barrel
Not really when he is actually peeking, can't agree with your point here.
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Jan 14 '18
Luckly for nV this was only the 2nd best chinese team
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u/pingzi_cn FaZe Jan 14 '18
the third* there was VG who couldn't get to minor due to visa issues
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u/WVS_SoShi Astralis Jan 15 '18
Not really. I think VG has regressed a lot lately. Flash beat them handily a lot of time recently.
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u/Kawooo Jan 14 '18
Are you kidding me? So many clutches came the way of Flash. I've seen many really low players and that SIXER shot at Banana in 2v3 - I don't know how he missed it, but it felt like it wasn't a miss. At least they had the nerves to not fall completely apart at 14-13.
EDIT: Here's SIXER's missed shot btw. https://gyazo.com/fec5fc8ffdc06eb64f3bc6280757960c
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u/FamilyShoww HEROIC Jan 14 '18
It was both the best and the worst game I've seen so far at this tournament.
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u/casablancas_ 750k Celebration Jan 14 '18
I mean is your point of view, but I want to know why "best"? it was plain horrible to me..
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u/ASkittlez CS2 HYPE Jan 14 '18 edited Jan 14 '18
90% of pickems almost died todaytyenvyfornotchoking