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Discussion | Esports Immortals vs Virtus.pro / PGL Major Kraków 2017 - Semi-Final / Post-Match Discussion
Immortals 2-0 Virtus.pro
Inferno: 16-5
Mirage: 16-11Cobblestone:
Immortals have advanced to the finals.
Virtus.pro have been eliminated.
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Who was the MVP for this series? (POLL)
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MAP 1/3: Inferno
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| IMT | 11 | 5 | 16 |
| CT | T | ||
| VP | 4 | 1 | 5 |
| IMT | K | A | D |
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| LUCAS1 | 25 | 2 | 8 |
| kNg | 16 | 0 | 15 |
| HEN1 | 15 | 6 | 9 |
| steel | 14 | 4 | 11 |
| boltz | 12 | 5 | 12 |
| VP | |||
| TaZ | 17 | 0 | 14 |
| NEO | 11 | 2 | 18 |
| pashaBiceps | 10 | 3 | 18 |
| Snax | 10 | 1 | 15 |
| byali | 7 | 3 | 17 |
Map 1 Detailed Stats
MAP 2/3: Mirage
| Team | CT | T | Total |
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| IMT | 11 | 5 | 16 |
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| VP | 4 | 7 | 11 |
| IMT | K | A | D |
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| boltz | 23 | 6 | 18 |
| kNg | 20 | 3 | 16 |
| HEN1 | 19 | 3 | 16 |
| LUCAS1 | 17 | 3 | 17 |
| steel | 15 | 3 | 19 |
| VP | |||
| pashaBiceps | 21 | 2 | 17 |
| Snax | 20 | 1 | 23 |
| TaZ | 17 | 2 | 19 |
| byali | 15 | 2 | 18 |
| NEO | 13 | 7 | 17 |
Map 2 Detailed Stats
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u/ButteredGhost Jul 22 '17 edited Jul 22 '17
The surprises just keep fucking coming at the Pick'Em Graveyard League
No joke, I have a certified Nice Skin™ waiting for the mad bastard that locked in a Gambit-IMT final
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u/XDutchie Jul 22 '17
I'm a prophet AMA. I know I shouldn't have doubted Astralis, would of had gold before the Final. http://imgur.com/a/gcWg1
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u/TheBlitzbolt Jul 22 '17
If this isn't a one time tournament fluke, it feels like CS:GO's history will be divided between before Krakow and after Krakow.
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u/jeznix King NiKo Jul 22 '17
CS:GO was bound to get more competitive over time. It's already normal eg in DOTA that weird teams win when they play their hearts out for the big tourneys.
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Jul 22 '17
True. There will never be an era again. There was Nip's and Fnatic's and that's it. The level of competition right now is insane.
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u/TooM3R NiP Jul 22 '17
You might call me butthurt, but I doubt from now on immortals/gambit would be top3 teams and sk/astralis/faze will fall.
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u/GivePLZ-DoritosChip MIBR Jul 22 '17
They don't have to be top 3, they just have to be able to beat the top 3 and show up when it matters.
Being top 3 isn't worth shit if you lost to these teams or beat the top 3 and then lose to them.
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u/amagzz Jul 22 '17
Might be, but I think it'll be more to do with what Valve decides to do with the Major structure.
Absolutely no shots to Gambit and Immortals who are playing out of their minds, beating the big teams when it counts and silencing the critics who said their paths to the finals were "easier," but the group stage needs work. The two statements aren't mutually exclusive, and it's up to Valve if they're going to address it.
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u/FalcowUnleashed NiP Jul 22 '17 edited Dec 21 '24
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u/GivePLZ-DoritosChip MIBR Jul 22 '17
Yeah it was the safest bet basically. Can't believe people taking risks.
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u/bkdr22 Team Spirit Jul 22 '17
Definitely the brazilian team we expected in the final.
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u/excessus_ Jul 22 '17
If IMT wins this major reddit will explode
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u/metaltyphoon FURIA Jul 22 '17
Just because they attained more success than C9 faster :P
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u/ChillOutAndSmile Astralis Jul 22 '17
RIP crowd
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u/ButteredGhost Jul 22 '17
Honestly felt bad for the home crowd, they did their damnedest cheering on every play VP made
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u/nmyi de_mirage Jul 22 '17 edited Jul 22 '17
Damn... every round won by VP was absolutely energizing from the roaring crowd.
I loved it.
I just wish I could see more of VP at home :(
This match convinced me that when there's going to be another major at Poland, i must to fly to Poland with a VP shirt on (if i could afford the trip lol).
Shit looked so much fun. All of the ups & downs... disappointments & surprises... it was truly quite a ride to support VP along with the invigorating Polish crowd.
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u/TheMad_fox 1 Million Celebration Jul 22 '17
The crowd was fucking amazing, when they started to sing the polish athem I got goosebumps and the chants were good too, I wished to be there even that they lost
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u/snorlaxCSGO Liquid Jul 22 '17
Budget MLG Columbus 2016 finals
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u/Ikkenen FURIA Jul 22 '17
Na'vi reject x LG rejects
LMAO
BR wins like in Columbus??
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u/omba01 Jul 22 '17
If someone would've told me the 14th and 11th ranked team on HLTV would both make the major finals I'd laugh at him.
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Jul 22 '17
Gambit is way better than that, they'd be top 5 if they had actually played any LANs recently.
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u/ButteredGhost Jul 22 '17
Mastermind Zeus with the 200,000 IQ absence of LAN play, keeping those demos on lockdown
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u/Diavolo222 SK Jul 22 '17
Yeah gambit s rating is a mess but they are clearly top5.
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u/mitsurugui FURIA Jul 22 '17
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u/Taurusan Jul 22 '17
The Immortals and Brazilian flags should be reversed.
I know, I'm not fun at parties.
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u/AaronIE7 FaZe Jul 22 '17
AND THE CROWD GOES MILD
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u/Szuszk Jul 22 '17
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u/egotisticalSloth FaZe Jul 22 '17
So is that like every single team that has ever played at a major? Wtf kind of logic is that?
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u/unexpectedreboots Liquid Jul 22 '17
Thoorin is the Skip Bayless of CS. Saying wild, outlandish shit for clicks. His opinion means fuck all.
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Jul 22 '17
If anyone has Gold in the pick em challenge he is cheating
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u/razorpigeon Virtus.pro Jul 23 '17
My fucking friend has been dead on right since the beginning of the playoffs. We all laughed at him, now hes laughing.
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u/headchuck Jul 22 '17
SK: we are the best team in the world
IMT: you're not even the best team from brazil
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u/EnthusiastOfMemes Liquid Jul 22 '17
Coldzera: I'm the best player in the world
Brazil: You're not even the best Coldzera
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u/jeznix King NiKo Jul 22 '17
If you legitimately celebrate making a major then you're not a team who is gonna do anything big at said major.
Also, my MVP is device and Astralis is still the best team in the world as I made the announcer say in the Krakow intro.
-Thooooooooooorin
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u/esach Jul 22 '17
That is some impressive composure for a team who hasn't been to a major before.
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u/Nytkim Jul 22 '17
boltz and steel have been to majors before and they are the leaders of the team. kNg though... it's like he doesn't care who he is playing against, if it's a major instead of a brazilian national tournament, he just rekts them anyway
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u/SFDP Tyloo Jul 22 '17
“I felt a great disturbance in Krakow, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.”
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u/Maximum_X Jul 22 '17 edited Jul 22 '17
Immortals go through the Minor -> 3-2 to go through the major -> 3-2 in group stages of the major and now in the finals of the major. What a path. Man!
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u/ramirof1 500k Celebration Jul 22 '17
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u/ItzzBlink Jul 22 '17 edited Dec 07 '25
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u/Immortalsgg Official Immortals Jul 22 '17
WE ARE IN THE FINALS!!!!
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u/GeneralBlade Liquid Jul 22 '17
Congrats! Minor -> First major -> playoffs -> finals
If VP had to loose to someone I'm glad it's you guys, gg wp.
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u/DamnsiK Jul 22 '17
And people complained about the Big - IMT Match-up...
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u/YourHomicidalApe Jul 22 '17
People complain about fucking everything on this subreddit.
Sorta like me, complaining on this subreddit about everyone complaining about everything on this subreddit!
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u/excessus_ Jul 22 '17
VP: Easy major we gonna win this
Kng: https://twitter.com/Willbo_16/status/888537792921448448
VP: Understandable, have a nice day
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u/peckerino Virtus.pro Jul 22 '17
I'm beyond words.. so upset. This was their time, in front of their home crowd. I'm just... so sad. :'(
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u/iSluff Jul 22 '17
Immortals was down 12-3 against Godsent in the 1-2 qualifier elimination match. They won crazy clutches straight into 16-14...and now there's a great chance they win it...
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Jul 22 '17
Arena is gonna be empty tomorrow 😂
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u/uzaircs de_inferno Jul 22 '17
I dont think so. Classic human nature: they will be supporting Gambit just because Immortals defeated Home team VP in semi-final
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u/Hoitheboi Jul 22 '17
If you told me imt and gambit are going to face off in a major final a year ago I would've said that you were insane....
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u/MantaRochenHL de_overpass Jul 22 '17
Just remember: Immortals are only at the major because Godsent choked 12-3 against them on Cobble.
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u/Likesbisexualgirls Jul 22 '17
You can make this argument for any team that played at the major really, "they only won because someone lose".
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u/addscomma FaZe Jul 22 '17 edited Jul 22 '17
Ah yes, the classic Gambit vs Immortals final everyone expected.
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u/RodriTama Jul 22 '17
gg can't believe it.
I still think VP got fucked by the format. I highly dislike that a team has to play two series in a day while the other doesn't, it's simply not fair.
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u/Unforgettable_ Natus Vincere Jul 22 '17
Yeah agreed. I thought that maybe they could carry over momentum from the North game but I guess they just got fatigued from playing then waiting for the Gambit game to finish. Silly format/schedule if you ask me.
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u/xslaughteredx Jul 23 '17
Gotta give it up to imt , they had to play fucking VP in poland in the semis to get to a final of a major while stomping them 2-0 , now thats impressive.
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u/JordanGlass123 Jul 22 '17
VP seemed so confused throughout the series. They rely on miracles too much to win.
Great performance though, can't be mad with how they did.
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u/BielayaSmert Jul 22 '17
Imagine Immortals winning the major. Hell, even getting in the finals on their first attendance is amazing but if they win....
Good luck to both teams, will be an amazing final
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u/Gsz_ Liquid Jul 22 '17
Really impressive stuff from IMT. Great team play bringing them to the major final.
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u/Ontyyyy CS2 HYPE Jul 22 '17
What was this VP?
Known for their aggressive style, entering bombsite, trading frags.
This match: Lets spread around, hope for a pick, wait for 1:20min and then rush a site together aaandd run out of time.
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Jul 22 '17
Well, they're working on new style with Snax IGLing. The type of play you've described is Neo style. Snax clearly wants more strategic approach but I don't think old schoolers can / want to adapt.
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Jul 22 '17
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u/nmyi de_mirage Jul 22 '17
Wish I could hug ya bro. You guys & the insane Polish crowd made me a fan.
As an average supporter, I'm going to support VP somehow by at least buying some VP merch.
That was very fun (minus the loss)
But again, every round won by VP was a wild ride for me.
Thanks for the show, Poland - truly.
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u/DesHis 5 years coin Jul 22 '17 edited Jun 19 '25
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Jul 22 '17
Gambit and Immortals playing in the grand finals of a Major.
Those are words I'd never thought I'd say. Regardless of who wins, there is going to be amazing Counter-Strike tomorrow. Make the fans proud!
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u/Geinrendour Jul 22 '17
I'm just sad because we could have had literally an all Brazilian finals, but from all teams SK dropped the ball. Loving this game tho haha
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u/palmito1 Jul 22 '17 edited Jul 22 '17
Immortals feeds on the salt of the haters. So i wanna say thanks to everybody in this sub.
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u/msartdota Imperial Jul 22 '17
If it wasnt for steel this sub would be imploding right now
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u/dratyan Jul 22 '17
Casters say two words about Immortals winning
Immediately start praising Virtus Pro non stop
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u/Pozsich Virtus.pro Jul 22 '17
Very sad times. At least VP looked pretty damn good for the first time in a while.
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u/Brian2one0 Jul 22 '17
Wonder if crowd is going to be as hyped in the Grand Final as they were every time Virtus Pro got a kill.
If only VP made the Grand Final :(
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u/joaogabrielferr FURIA Jul 22 '17
lul I'm brazilian and i don't expected IMT on the finals, so proud of they
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u/razorpigeon Virtus.pro Jul 23 '17
As a huge vp fan I was rooting for vp, usually when my favorite poles lose I'm pretty mad and dislike the enemy team. But this time I wasn't mad, Immortals worked really hard to make it to the top and I think they deserve the win for playing their hearts out against the home team and pulling through. Great work immortals, you earned it.
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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Jul 22 '17
There's not a single top 10 hltv team making it to the final.
11 vs 14.
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u/it20wk Jul 22 '17
Gambit is technically a top 4 team though, they never attended any events since the last major and dropped in rankings. Honestly cs go needs to have regulated seasons like other sports if they want to make this more organized and legit instead of having random events hosted by different companies all over the place and then having a site like hltv make rankings off the points off those events which everyone uses as a inaccurate reference. Seeding in the group stages and upsets (that aren't deserved) will happen a lot less if every team had to play each other in a organized system and then the best teams qualify for the major based on their record (instead of having upset central qualifiers), and then the group stages seeded from the season like NBA or NFL or MLB or any other sport with the best teams in different brackets (like seed 1 and seed 2) so stuff like SK and Astralis in the same quarterfinals as Big vs Immortal don't happen
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u/GivePLZ-DoritosChip MIBR Jul 22 '17
How the fuck did Immortals reach the grand final?
Amazing that one of Gambit or IMT will win this major! Give me that Steel interview.
RIP HLTV Top 10
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Jul 22 '17
Routes to the Grand Final
| Immortals | Gambit | |
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| Groups | Vega | mouz |
| Groups | Na'Vi | G2 |
| Groups | Flipsid3 | Virtus Pro |
| QF | BIG | Fnatic |
| SF | Virtus Pro | Astralis |
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u/swegmeister1738 Virtus.pro Jul 22 '17
Do I want to cry? Yes. WILL I cry? ABSOLUTELY :(((((((((((((((
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u/bartekkenny Virtus.pro Jul 22 '17
VP fucked themselves on the Vetos like Mirage over Train and Cobble they've played amazing on train and they should've banned inferno why do they keep on trying that map they lost to everyone on that map.
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u/AtomicBaka King NiKo Jul 22 '17
Damn, Immortals not screaming and hyping themselves up after every round win, is this real? If they gonna play like that tomorrow I can see them getting that major title.
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u/Mihauke FaZe Jul 22 '17
As everyone expect Immortals vs Gambit in final. I'm waiting for my gold pick'em :) /s
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u/JamaltS Jul 22 '17
I'm Brazilian and happy AF. Just started supporting Gambit because of Zeus and It turns out to be one of the best teams. Incredible
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u/SirJohnSmith HEROIC Jul 22 '17
BO3 between Immortals and Gambit sounds like something out of Dreamhack Atlanta instead of the Major
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Jul 22 '17
The people that predicted this must have been either high or able to see the future. Now I hope for Zeus, bonus for X god.
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u/egotisticalSloth FaZe Jul 22 '17
If you see someone with a Platinum Krakow medal in the future, add them to your friends list and learn from them.
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u/anon_redditor_ Virtus.pro Jul 22 '17
1 point away from bronze fuck meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
does this mean i get literally nothing from playing pickem?
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u/officialMDS MOUZ Jul 22 '17
Gambit vs Immortals in the final of a major. Is this some kind of a weird dream? What's next? Gabe coming on stage after the final?
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u/MagicTF Jul 22 '17
Even though I was rooting for VP, Immortals played the better cs this match. As amazing as some of the plays were by VP Immortals came across to me as better prepared for this match up on both maps. Well deserved Victory.
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u/C9_Lemonparty Jul 22 '17
Well thanks to this game I only got 1 pickem correct the entire playoffs lol, easy bronze medal
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u/H3nryd Jul 22 '17
The problem was the veto. Vp never play inferno, they're bad on it. And I think they know it, deep in their hearts. And mirage, they're were good when the playstyle were different. This newone is good too, but is kind of randomly and limited. How to play against two awp and conciliate a totally diferent style in a semi-final of a major? too much for they.
If they played cbble, train or cache, I think would be a different history.
Sorry about my english.
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u/vvFury Renegades Jul 22 '17
VP: Here we are, in our home country, we have the crowd and skill. This is our major to win. IMT: Here we are, we got KNG. VP: Understandable. Have a great day.
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u/Vinck Legendary Chicken Master Jul 22 '17
Please post any serious questions/comments you have in this top comment. We want to make sure there's a place for serious discussion only, but don't want to take hype/memes away from the threads. We'll see how well this works, if it doesn't work we'll ditch it.
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u/Ontyyyy CS2 HYPE Jul 22 '17
VP lost because they were scared, it's as simple as that imo. Their T sides were terrible, it was waiting around for a minute, getting picked off 1 by 1 and then rushing the sites in the last 30 seconds with IMT being ready for it because VP had no map control.
They should've played like they played North, big dick plays, no fear. Don't get me wrong IMT played great, but what a fuckup by VP.
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Jul 22 '17
Has the final look at the playoff results ever been this unpredictable??
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u/perma_virgin Jul 22 '17
why did VP buy 4 decoys during the 2nd pistol in mirage? to use as fake flashes?
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u/Gumpster07 Renegades Jul 22 '17
I'm disappointed that we didn't get a true classic match there. Immortals just turned up with no fear and lots of discipline. I also feel for VP, they just seemed to not turn up this evening, and the final would have been hype had they been involved.
However, I am really really happy, because we are now in a proper unknown waters. We have two finalists who have never been there, never won a Major, and it could go either way.
It's great to see the CS:GO scene still spring these surprise stories, five years after it was released, and four years since it got proper serious.
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u/Cameter44 Jul 22 '17
Wow. I'll be pulling for IMT 100%. Not something that I would've thought I'd be saying a year ago.
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u/_Oomph_ 500k Celebration Jul 22 '17
Looks at pick'ems
KURWA