r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Jul 19 '17
Discussion | Esports Fnatic vs G2 Esports / PGL Major Kraków 2017 - Round 5 / Post-Match Discussion
Fnatic 1-0 G2 Esports
Overpass: 16-10
Fnatic have advanced to the playoffs.
G2 Esports have been eliminated.
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Who was the MVP for this map? (POLL)
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MAP: Overpass
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| FNC | 11 | 5 | 16 |
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| G2 | 4 | 6 | 10 |
| FNC | K | A | D |
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| flusha | 25 | 4 | 19 |
| olofmeister | 25 | 3 | 18 |
| KRiMZ | 18 | 5 | 17 |
| JW | 17 | 5 | 17 |
| dennis | 11 | 5 | 18 |
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| apEX | 24 | 2 | 18 |
| bodyy | 22 | 3 | 19 |
| kennyS | 18 | 3 | 18 |
| NBK- | 13 | 7 | 22 |
| shox | 12 | 4 | 19 |
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u/LikeSubDerp Liquid Jul 19 '17
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u/iSluff Jul 19 '17
aw man this one is just heartbreaking
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u/messerschmitt1 Jul 19 '17
it was from the c9 game iirc so its all good for him
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Jul 19 '17
As a fnatic fan, BibleThump. I can tell how much apEX wants to win just by his reactions, but that goes for everyone
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u/VysuaLs NiP Jul 19 '17
That actually hurts to watch. I wanted both of these teams to make the playoffs, gotta feel for Kenny, Apex, really all of G2. Not to mention their insane run in the swiss system, very solid 5 teams [NaVi, Gambit, C9, Astralis, Fnatic]
Just sucks
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u/mokuhazushi Jul 19 '17
Fnatic mentioned as a solid team in 2017? What is this feeling? Is it... hope?
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u/VysuaLs NiP Jul 19 '17
I want to believe lol, Fnatic in form is so fun to watch (when they arent dicking NiP in 2015 late in tournaments killing my dreams lol)
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u/i_wave_to_koalas NiP Jul 19 '17
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u/scarthearmada de_mirage Jul 19 '17
Her brother has no clue what's going on.
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u/magsy123 Jul 19 '17
nah, he's definitely got the thousand yard stare of a man used to dudes staring at his sister
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u/cresture Jul 19 '17
why does it say leagueoflegends in the title?
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u/onVoid Jul 19 '17
Wow, FaZe and now G2 not legends..
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u/suttlesd Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17
And cloud9 / vp aren't going to be legends. c9 isnt insanely shocking, but if vp don't make im actually so shocked.
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u/Kraze_F35 CS2 HYPE Jul 19 '17
This C9 v VP matchup hurts me. On one end, I'd love to see VP in front of the home crowd, but I'd also love to see C9 in the playoffs.
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u/fascfoo Jul 19 '17
That's where I am. VP in Poland would be insane - I would feel bad for the crowd and VP if that didn't happen. Then again, C9 have definitely improved the last few months and their match against G2 was so close and heartbreaking. So we'll see what happens!
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u/UandB Jul 19 '17
I feel like Imt are really underrated to everybody but C9 fans tbh.
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u/suttlesd Jul 19 '17
Immortals are very underrated. I still didn't expect them to make legend. I'm a huge fan of them, but the fact the matchup is flipsid3 vs immortals to decide a legend spot is very interesting.
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u/SlidyRaccoon Jul 19 '17
I feel so bad for G2. The faces of agony when they lost those rounds. Heartbreaking.
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Jul 19 '17
Krimz and olof arent missing a fucking major playoff
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u/SmellyUndies Jul 19 '17
Neither is Dennis
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u/Ninjaflipp bravo Jul 19 '17
He missed katowice 2015, dreamhack winter 2014 and cologne 2014.
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u/SneakyPanda7 Jul 19 '17
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Jul 19 '17
No ex6tenz, no superteam
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u/sjj9000 Jul 19 '17
If am not wrong ex6tenz is considered a good IGL right?
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u/scareCroW1337 G2 Jul 19 '17
He's considered as one of the best in history especially in early CS:GO but he hasn't been given a shot with a team such as this G2
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u/Thekantona Jul 19 '17
He is considered A IGL which is more then any top French team has right now.
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u/Kalyr Vitality Jul 19 '17
top french players don't wanna play under his system because it's too restrictive. i'm nostalgic of the verygames cs:s line-up :(
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u/henptk14 Jul 19 '17
Now it seems like a great time for ex6tenz to come back to the top. The meta seems to be shifting more towards structured coordinated play style instead of loose picking style.
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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Jul 19 '17
Fnatic had the shittiest draws and still managed to make it, huge props to them
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u/MrBananaStorm Renegades Jul 19 '17
If G2 had won you could have easily said the same.
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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Jul 19 '17
Yup, Fnatic still got Flipside as the first match, G2 has had it very hard.
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u/Belerophus Jul 19 '17
Fnatic were Legends while G2 had to go through qualification. Of course Fnatic would be getting a Challenger team in the first round.
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u/Tschonti Jul 19 '17
even the referee's playing his role at the coin toss :D
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u/dancing_dragons Jul 19 '17
Fnatic earned that Legend spot. Happy to see them playing at a high level again
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u/Selfix Natus Vincere Jul 19 '17
That is very true tbh, I have to admit they had to work really hard for their spot.
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u/Acideus Renegades Jul 19 '17
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u/Ontyyyy CS2 HYPE Jul 19 '17
just fuck my shit up, fam.
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u/WalrusWisperer Jul 19 '17
I feel dead
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u/l3linkTree_Horep G2 Jul 19 '17
They try so hard but do so much stupid shit.
Always out of money, always dry peeking or rushing, or holding way too far back.
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u/hobocactus Jul 19 '17
Next major qualifier is going to be bonkers as well, I expect at least 1 big-name team is gonna get shafted. Legend status is so important right now.
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Jul 19 '17
C9, NaVi, G2, FaZe, Mouz, Penta. Holyy. That is gonna be rough
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u/hobocactus Jul 19 '17
And the teams from the minors, if they fix their problems. EU minor has NIP/Hellraisers/Heroic/Envyus/Dignitas, NA has Liquid/Optic. All of them can be dangerous in a BO1.
Edit: also Flipsid3, who make the major every time...
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u/SunshineZz King NiKo Jul 19 '17
I AM SO HAPPY ps someone call a cardiologist
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u/bkdr22 Team Spirit Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17
Just wait until we get drawn SK in the quarters
EDIT: At least not sk, for now..
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u/SunshineZz King NiKo Jul 19 '17
I know we will but who cares , we legends now boys
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u/Alser0 de_overpass Jul 19 '17
All 5 players in the 10/10 club join the 11/11 club! Wp legends!
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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jul 19 '17
Olof, KrimZ, Dev1ce, Xyp9x, and who else?
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u/Alser0 de_overpass Jul 19 '17
dupreeh (with an asterisk of course, seeing as zonic played the decider game for him)
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u/ajwhite98 Jul 19 '17
FRENCH CS IN 2017 LUL
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u/Grindstone8 1 Million Celebration Jul 19 '17
shox's 6th time with a group stage exit... how crazy does that sound?
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u/EliteDemonTaco Jul 19 '17
Fnatic really needs to work on their anti-ecos. My heart can't take some of these rounds.
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u/jonajon91 de_canals Jul 19 '17
Fnatic retaking B site was glorious, they smoked short with olof on the other side to make them think it was clear and olof just walks through and gets a free kill, GG fnatic!
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u/JaksFrost Jul 19 '17
Is it just me or does Kenny always look like he's about to cry?
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u/m0rden Vitality Jul 19 '17
Can we start to discuss Shox as igl? ...
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u/deefenator NiP Jul 20 '17
Doesnt need to be, everyone and their dog knows he shouldnt be it.
Bad economically, restricted rifler, bad calls. Smh
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u/Rawrhock ENCE Jul 19 '17
Alright now Fnatic draws SK, and then even if they beat them they get Astralis in semis.
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u/rocker492 Natus Vincere Jul 19 '17
Krimz with some clutch godly pushes. Those two mp9 kills were amazing.
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u/sorenslothe Astralis Jul 19 '17
So next qualifier is going to be just as stacked as this one was.
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u/jospence Godsent Jul 19 '17
Personally I think ELEAGUE was more stacked than the PGL one
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u/Felpes1520 Jul 19 '17
THANK MR FNATIC
SK appreciates this
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u/noxP3p Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17
i had this in my mind during the game.
No G2, no problem.
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u/YinxuU G2 Jul 19 '17
If you're gonna shit the bed at least do it without giving me hope first. Every single time.
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17
Congrats Fnatic. Both teams deserved to be in the playoffs. Please have seeding after each round for future Swiss stages.
Edit: "Deserve" may have not been the right word. G2 are a top four team in the world and have shown real potential these past few months, especially being the only team to beat SK in a BO3. Would have been good to see them on the stage.
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u/little_hands_trex Virtus.pro Jul 19 '17
G2 deserves to be in the playoffs?
Why exactly?
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u/areyoujokinglol EG Jul 19 '17
They had an insanely difficult road through the Swiss system. They got an (arguably) even harder path than Fnatic. You can argue that they don't "deserve" to be in playoffs since they aren't, but look at the teams they played and you'll realize how crazy it was.
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u/unexpectedreboots Liquid Jul 19 '17
What? Both teams had their chances. Fnatic deserves to be in the playoffs.
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u/DuoJetOzzy ENCE Jul 19 '17
I mean, if people are getting upset some teams have easier paths, won't reseeding guarantee easier paths to the top seeded teams? How is that fair?
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u/dinosaurxress Jul 19 '17
If Cloud9 loses against VP, three out of the top 5 teams would not be in the playoffs of the major.
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u/Nikolai9114 G2 Jul 19 '17
I'm done.
Maybe I was just lucky I started cheering for G2 during Cluj, but I simply cannot believe this org went farther with Fox and Maik than with Shox and KennyS
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u/oliverjelez NiP Jul 19 '17
Fnatic and Overpass, name a more iconic duo...
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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jul 19 '17
KrimZ and Olof bombsite B old Inferno...
Oh, you were being humourous...
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u/E_blanc Astralis Jul 19 '17
Can people finally stop treating g2 as if they are of the best in the world now?
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u/DarkSofter NiP Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17
G2 had to play Navi, Gambit, C9, Astralis and Fnatic. And Fnatic aswell had to play F3, VP, Astralis, Navi, G2. Im honestly tired of this bullshit system where bad luck can take out great teams. Why in this world aren't teams seeded yet like in every other sport in 2017, I have no idea. I make this post in no correlation to the result, its a shame honestly
edit: In no way did i say fnatic had an easier draw. I said both teams had super hard draws and had to face eachother at the end
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u/Belerophus Jul 19 '17
G2 came from qualifications. It was known they would be facing seeded teams all the time. The system while having issues is miles better than losing 2 BO1s in a group with 2 Legends and busting from the Major.
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u/Thegellerbing wildfire Jul 19 '17
GSL groups with proper seeding. It ain't rocket science. It really isnt.
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u/Eijink de_inferno Jul 19 '17
Hope this wakes G2 up, it's unheard of to have this skilled of a lineup to not be able to play proper T sides, they only survived this far on their monster CT side but when that doesn't hold up they can't do anything.
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u/TowerOpr Jul 20 '17
Reddit is so harsh. Everybody just forgets all prior games/results etc when you play badly. As a G2 fan I think they have been playing really well ever 'since the early rough times. My simple analysis of this tournament: they we're feeling the pressure of the major and not playing their own game. They weren't playing to win, they we're playing not to lose (and in all sports, that's when you lose ofc).
Please G2 just keep your ct sides the way they were before this tournament (with coordinated aggression etc) and work on your t-side strats and clean up the over extending mistakes. We will still be cheering for you!
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u/Spyzzie Jul 19 '17
Okay seriously, G2 on CT side over rotate faster than a woman changes her mood.
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u/LucKygg de_cobble Jul 19 '17
This game gave me flashbacks to 2014 LDLC vs Fnatic. Great game, heartbreaking for G2 :(
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u/Hegarz Jul 19 '17
G2: We're going to mount a comeback
Fnatic: No
G2: Understandable, have a nice day
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u/00o0o00 500k Celebration Jul 19 '17
What's so funny about this joke? I don't get it.
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u/Whyyoufart CS2 HYPE Jul 19 '17
fnatic : Hey don't force buy and reset us
G2 : no
fnatic : Understandable, have a nice day
G2 : Hey don't force buy and reset us
fnatic : no
G2 : Understandable, have a nice day
fnatic : Hey don't force buy and reset us
G2 : no
fnatic : Understandable, have a nice day
G2 : Hey don't force buy and reset us
fnatic : no
G2 : Understandable, have a nice day
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u/little_hands_trex Virtus.pro Jul 19 '17
tired meme is tired
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u/ButteredGhost Jul 19 '17
It'll keep getting posted until people downvote it. Remember kids, only you can prevent stale memes
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u/cuddlepwince FaZe Jul 19 '17
that was a really good game. i just hope fnatic dont get banged out 1st round of playoffs
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u/Waffliez FaZe Jul 19 '17
Fnatic magic! One of Fnatic's worst map vs one of G2's best. God it feels good to see this team make top 8 again, took so long! I'm happy as a friend.
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u/ShhhNoTearsJustDream Jul 19 '17
What is the song played when fnatic won the match? it sounded sick.
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u/Kraze_F35 CS2 HYPE Jul 19 '17
Wonder what will happen with G2, Coming up short in groups I have to wonder whether or not they'll panic and mess with the roster or try and work on their problems.
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u/Waldendy hydra Jul 19 '17
Damn, I hate these matches where one of two teams I love must get eliminated :/
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u/Chazy89 Jul 19 '17
Legend once again. TBH that is more than I expected. The match against G2 was pretty strong tho.
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u/MajestyA Jul 19 '17
No amount of skill can stop Shox going out in groups.
Gg. Great game, so much skill on that map.
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u/FxShaderz G2 Jul 19 '17
Name a more iconic duo than G2 and not learning their lesson with forcing.
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u/GdoDotA Jul 19 '17
Bardolph: I feel like G2 only won forcebuys.
DDK: I feel like they only had forcebuys.
Sums up the match.