r/GlobalOffensive • Match Thread Team • Jul 19 '17

Discussion | Esports Fnatic vs G2 Esports / PGL Major Kraków 2017 - Round 5 / Post-Match Discussion

Fnatic 1-0 G2 Esports

Overpass: 16-10

 

Fnatic have advanced to the playoffs.
G2 Esports have been eliminated.

 


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Who was the MVP for this map? (POLL)


 

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MAP: Overpass

 

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u/GdoDotA Jul 19 '17

Bardolph: I feel like G2 only won forcebuys.

DDK: I feel like they only had forcebuys.

Sums up the match.

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u/Scrypto Liquid Jul 19 '17

G2 has the worst eco management of any team in the circuit. How many fucking rounds did Apex have a cz75 armor? It's not 2015 anymore, the substandard buys will bite you in the ass more times than not.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

Frenchmen and forcebuys, name a more iconic duo.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

NiKo and getting fucked by nex and denis

35

u/Zeinin Jul 20 '17

Disqualified, that's a threesome.

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u/Rift3N Jul 19 '17

Shox stuck in 2014 4Head

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u/Le_Sun_Maid Jul 19 '17

It's particularly frustrating for me due to the fact that when this new roster was formed, NBK explicitly said they would be working on increasing their tactical depth. Still waiting NBK, still waiting....

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u/LikeSubDerp Liquid Jul 19 '17

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u/iSluff Jul 19 '17

aw man this one is just heartbreaking

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u/messerschmitt1 Jul 19 '17

it was from the c9 game iirc so its all good for him

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u/iSWINE guardian_elite Jul 19 '17

Except for the fact that he's eliminated

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

As a fnatic fan, BibleThump. I can tell how much apEX wants to win just by his reactions, but that goes for everyone

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u/VysuaLs NiP Jul 19 '17

That actually hurts to watch. I wanted both of these teams to make the playoffs, gotta feel for Kenny, Apex, really all of G2. Not to mention their insane run in the swiss system, very solid 5 teams [NaVi, Gambit, C9, Astralis, Fnatic]

Just sucks

58

u/mokuhazushi Jul 19 '17

Fnatic mentioned as a solid team in 2017? What is this feeling? Is it... hope?

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u/VysuaLs NiP Jul 19 '17

I want to believe lol, Fnatic in form is so fun to watch (when they arent dicking NiP in 2015 late in tournaments killing my dreams lol)

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u/WHumbers Natus Vincere Jul 19 '17

BibleThump

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u/Lupin123 EG Jul 19 '17

That is fucking heartbreaking

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u/scareCroW1337 G2 Jul 19 '17

Man I have tears to my eye ;_;

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u/_Administrator 1 Million Celebration Jul 19 '17

have some pity man

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u/i_wave_to_koalas NiP Jul 19 '17

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u/Sumiz Jul 19 '17

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u/scarthearmada de_mirage Jul 19 '17

Her brother has no clue what's going on.

27

u/magsy123 Jul 19 '17

nah, he's definitely got the thousand yard stare of a man used to dudes staring at his sister

16

u/cresture Jul 19 '17

why does it say leagueoflegends in the title?

40

u/Sumiz Jul 19 '17

FNC is FNC

43

u/Mafiii 5 years coin Jul 19 '17

It was at a cs event tho, I saw it live :<

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u/onVoid Jul 19 '17

Wow, FaZe and now G2 not legends..

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u/suttlesd Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17

And cloud9 / vp aren't going to be legends. c9 isnt insanely shocking, but if vp don't make im actually so shocked.
And flipsid3 or immortals are going to be legends, both of which no one expected.

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u/Kraze_F35 CS2 HYPE Jul 19 '17

This C9 v VP matchup hurts me. On one end, I'd love to see VP in front of the home crowd, but I'd also love to see C9 in the playoffs.

12

u/fascfoo Jul 19 '17

That's where I am. VP in Poland would be insane - I would feel bad for the crowd and VP if that didn't happen. Then again, C9 have definitely improved the last few months and their match against G2 was so close and heartbreaking. So we'll see what happens!

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u/UandB Jul 19 '17

I feel like Imt are really underrated to everybody but C9 fans tbh.

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u/suttlesd Jul 19 '17

Immortals are very underrated. I still didn't expect them to make legend. I'm a huge fan of them, but the fact the matchup is flipsid3 vs immortals to decide a legend spot is very interesting.

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u/SlidyRaccoon Jul 19 '17

I feel so bad for G2. The faces of agony when they lost those rounds. Heartbreaking.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

Krimz and olof arent missing a fucking major playoff

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u/SmellyUndies Jul 19 '17

Neither is Dennis

7

u/Ninjaflipp bravo Jul 19 '17

He missed katowice 2015, dreamhack winter 2014 and cologne 2014.

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u/SneakyPanda7 Jul 19 '17

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u/scareCroW1337 G2 Jul 19 '17

Yep, we're in for our yearly shuffle

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

No ex6tenz, no superteam

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u/sjj9000 Jul 19 '17

If am not wrong ex6tenz is considered a good IGL right?

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u/scareCroW1337 G2 Jul 19 '17

He's considered as one of the best in history especially in early CS:GO but he hasn't been given a shot with a team such as this G2

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u/Thekantona Jul 19 '17

He is considered A IGL which is more then any top French team has right now.

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u/Kalyr Vitality Jul 19 '17

top french players don't wanna play under his system because it's too restrictive. i'm nostalgic of the verygames cs:s line-up :(

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u/henptk14 Jul 19 '17

Now it seems like a great time for ex6tenz to come back to the top. The meta seems to be shifting more towards structured coordinated play style instead of loose picking style.

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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Jul 19 '17

Fnatic had the shittiest draws and still managed to make it, huge props to them

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u/MrBananaStorm Renegades Jul 19 '17

If G2 had won you could have easily said the same.

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u/AndyFNG MOUZ Jul 19 '17

Yup, Fnatic still got Flipside as the first match, G2 has had it very hard.

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u/Belerophus Jul 19 '17

Fnatic were Legends while G2 had to go through qualification. Of course Fnatic would be getting a Challenger team in the first round.

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u/Tschonti Jul 19 '17

even the referee's playing his role at the coin toss :D

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

The ref in the blue shirt peeked too early, kick him from the toin coss team.

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u/Pohjis Natus Vincere Jul 19 '17

kick him from the toin coss team.

From the what

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u/GluhfGluhf 400k Celebration Jul 19 '17

Thank mr sneak

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u/dancing_dragons Jul 19 '17

Fnatic earned that Legend spot. Happy to see them playing at a high level again

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u/Selfix Natus Vincere Jul 19 '17

That is very true tbh, I have to admit they had to work really hard for their spot.

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u/bdzz Jul 19 '17

S V E R I G E

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u/equinox790 Jul 19 '17

WADDUP NOW SWISS!! WOOOOO!!

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u/Cravot Jul 19 '17

3rd time is the charm (not sure about the 3 though)

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u/Acideus Renegades Jul 19 '17

S U P E R T E A M

S U P E R T E A

S U P E R T E

S U P E R T

S U P E R

S U P E

S U P

S U

S

S E

S E Ñ

S E Ñ O

S E Ñ O R

S E Ñ O R V

S E Ñ O R V A

S E Ñ O R V A C

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u/Ontyyyy CS2 HYPE Jul 19 '17

just fuck my shit up, fam.

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u/WalrusWisperer Jul 19 '17

I feel dead

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u/l3linkTree_Horep G2 Jul 19 '17

They try so hard but do so much stupid shit.

Always out of money, always dry peeking or rushing, or holding way too far back.

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u/hobocactus Jul 19 '17

Next major qualifier is going to be bonkers as well, I expect at least 1 big-name team is gonna get shafted. Legend status is so important right now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

C9, NaVi, G2, FaZe, Mouz, Penta. Holyy. That is gonna be rough

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u/hobocactus Jul 19 '17

And the teams from the minors, if they fix their problems. EU minor has NIP/Hellraisers/Heroic/Envyus/Dignitas, NA has Liquid/Optic. All of them can be dangerous in a BO1.

Edit: also Flipsid3, who make the major every time...

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u/suttlesd Jul 19 '17

Fnatic vs french teams on overpass. Good shit from fnatic.

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u/SunshineZz King NiKo Jul 19 '17

I AM SO HAPPY ps someone call a cardiologist

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u/bkdr22 Team Spirit Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17

Just wait until we get drawn SK in the quarters

EDIT: At least not sk, for now..

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u/SunshineZz King NiKo Jul 19 '17

I know we will but who cares , we legends now boys

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u/stewie1304k Jul 19 '17

aren't we always legends?

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u/Aymen_B-Rabbit Jul 19 '17

as We Were in the Past 10 MAJORS

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

and win

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u/Tankk1n Godsent Jul 19 '17

We'll REK THEM

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u/Alser0 de_overpass Jul 19 '17

All 5 players in the 10/10 club join the 11/11 club! Wp legends!

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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jul 19 '17

Olof, KrimZ, Dev1ce, Xyp9x, and who else?

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u/Alser0 de_overpass Jul 19 '17

dupreeh (with an asterisk of course, seeing as zonic played the decider game for him)

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

Well fucking done Fnatic

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u/superluuk216 Natus Vincere Jul 19 '17

Fnatic flair is alive!

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u/ConnorK5 Jul 19 '17

This shit don't feel right. They are both so good.

15

u/SolCanGO Jul 19 '17

And now win the tournament!

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u/scareCroW1337 G2 Jul 19 '17

Hello Ex6 this is ocelote

12

u/Grindstone8 1 Million Celebration Jul 19 '17

shox's 6th time with a group stage exit... how crazy does that sound?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

Fnatic and making it out of the groups in a major

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u/EliteDemonTaco Jul 19 '17

Fnatic really needs to work on their anti-ecos. My heart can't take some of these rounds.

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u/schweppesvidya King NiKo Jul 19 '17

I hate everything

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u/AwesomesaucePhD Jul 19 '17

Well at least your flair isn't faded.

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u/deimoshr Jul 19 '17

Seems like Titan curse is still alive and well. :'(

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u/iSwedishVirus Jul 19 '17

Happy's lurks were not good this game at all..

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u/jonajon91 de_canals Jul 19 '17

Fnatic retaking B site was glorious, they smoked short with olof on the other side to make them think it was clear and olof just walks through and gets a free kill, GG fnatic!

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u/JaksFrost Jul 19 '17

Is it just me or does Kenny always look like he's about to cry?

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u/m0rden Vitality Jul 19 '17

Can we start to discuss Shox as igl? ...

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u/deefenator NiP Jul 20 '17

Doesnt need to be, everyone and their dog knows he shouldnt be it.

Bad economically, restricted rifler, bad calls. Smh

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u/Rawrhock ENCE Jul 19 '17

Alright now Fnatic draws SK, and then even if they beat them they get Astralis in semis.

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u/mokuhazushi Jul 19 '17

And then they lose to Flipside in the final. fak.

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u/rocker492 Natus Vincere Jul 19 '17

Krimz with some clutch godly pushes. Those two mp9 kills were amazing.

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u/DOMIPS 1 Million Celebration Jul 19 '17

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u/unexpectedreboots Liquid Jul 19 '17

Somewhere, Scream is smiling.

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u/Sentry_Down G2 Jul 19 '17

From the European Minor ?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

*Minor qualifier

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u/God_Serena FaZe Jul 19 '17

I am so happy

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u/sorenslothe Astralis Jul 19 '17

So next qualifier is going to be just as stacked as this one was.

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u/jospence Godsent Jul 19 '17

Personally I think ELEAGUE was more stacked than the PGL one

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u/tebAn05 Jul 19 '17

I want a rematch of Gambit vs Fnatic in playoffs. Let's go!!

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u/Felpes1520 Jul 19 '17

THANK MR FNATIC

SK appreciates this

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u/noxP3p Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17

i had this in my mind during the game.

No G2, no problem.

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u/YinxuU G2 Jul 19 '17

If you're gonna shit the bed at least do it without giving me hope first. Every single time.

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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17

Congrats Fnatic. Both teams deserved to be in the playoffs. Please have seeding after each round for future Swiss stages.

Edit: "Deserve" may have not been the right word. G2 are a top four team in the world and have shown real potential these past few months, especially being the only team to beat SK in a BO3. Would have been good to see them on the stage.

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u/little_hands_trex Virtus.pro Jul 19 '17

G2 deserves to be in the playoffs?

Why exactly?

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u/areyoujokinglol EG Jul 19 '17

They had an insanely difficult road through the Swiss system. They got an (arguably) even harder path than Fnatic. You can argue that they don't "deserve" to be in playoffs since they aren't, but look at the teams they played and you'll realize how crazy it was.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

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u/unexpectedreboots Liquid Jul 19 '17

What? Both teams had their chances. Fnatic deserves to be in the playoffs.

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u/DuoJetOzzy ENCE Jul 19 '17

I mean, if people are getting upset some teams have easier paths, won't reseeding guarantee easier paths to the top seeded teams? How is that fair?

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u/Aymen_B-Rabbit Jul 19 '17

That 2nd Half was a Back To Back Making Your Fans Shit Themselves

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

shox completely invisible

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u/johnbasedg0d Jul 19 '17

The curse of shox continues :(

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u/dinosaurxress Jul 19 '17

If Cloud9 loses against VP, three out of the top 5 teams would not be in the playoffs of the major.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

can't wait for the faze quarterfinal match

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u/Nikolai9114 G2 Jul 19 '17

I'm done.
Maybe I was just lucky I started cheering for G2 during Cluj, but I simply cannot believe this org went farther with Fox and Maik than with Shox and KennyS

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u/SaxxyTF G2 Jul 19 '17

G2 is driving me to alcoholism.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

i love these non seeded swiss matches

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u/oliverjelez NiP Jul 19 '17

Fnatic and Overpass, name a more iconic duo...

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u/Nsyochum Godsent Jul 19 '17

KrimZ and Olof bombsite B old Inferno...

Oh, you were being humourous...

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u/E_blanc Astralis Jul 19 '17

Can people finally stop treating g2 as if they are of the best in the world now?

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u/DarkSofter NiP Jul 19 '17 edited Jul 19 '17

G2 had to play Navi, Gambit, C9, Astralis and Fnatic. And Fnatic aswell had to play F3, VP, Astralis, Navi, G2. Im honestly tired of this bullshit system where bad luck can take out great teams. Why in this world aren't teams seeded yet like in every other sport in 2017, I have no idea. I make this post in no correlation to the result, its a shame honestly

edit: In no way did i say fnatic had an easier draw. I said both teams had super hard draws and had to face eachother at the end

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u/Belerophus Jul 19 '17

G2 came from qualifications. It was known they would be facing seeded teams all the time. The system while having issues is miles better than losing 2 BO1s in a group with 2 Legends and busting from the Major.

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u/Thegellerbing wildfire Jul 19 '17

GSL groups with proper seeding. It ain't rocket science. It really isnt.

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u/Pparadigm 750k Celebration Jul 19 '17

Titan curse

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u/kerev123 Jul 19 '17

Juicy win for fnathicc

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u/pedromalta Jul 19 '17

How do you say kill me in french?

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u/PfzBlacky Astralis Jul 19 '17

"Tuez moi"

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u/Eijink de_inferno Jul 19 '17

Hope this wakes G2 up, it's unheard of to have this skilled of a lineup to not be able to play proper T sides, they only survived this far on their monster CT side but when that doesn't hold up they can't do anything.

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u/SmokyMelon Astralis Jul 19 '17

Knew they'd keep their legendary status

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u/TowerOpr Jul 20 '17

Reddit is so harsh. Everybody just forgets all prior games/results etc when you play badly. As a G2 fan I think they have been playing really well ever 'since the early rough times. My simple analysis of this tournament: they we're feeling the pressure of the major and not playing their own game. They weren't playing to win, they we're playing not to lose (and in all sports, that's when you lose ofc).

Please G2 just keep your ct sides the way they were before this tournament (with coordinated aggression etc) and work on your t-side strats and clean up the over extending mistakes. We will still be cheering for you!

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u/Spyzzie Jul 19 '17

Okay seriously, G2 on CT side over rotate faster than a woman changes her mood.

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u/LucKygg de_cobble Jul 19 '17

This game gave me flashbacks to 2014 LDLC vs Fnatic. Great game, heartbreaking for G2 :(

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u/Hegarz Jul 19 '17

G2: We're going to mount a comeback

Fnatic: No

G2: Understandable, have a nice day

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u/00o0o00 500k Celebration Jul 19 '17

What's so funny about this joke? I don't get it.

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u/Whyyoufart CS2 HYPE Jul 19 '17

fnatic : Hey don't force buy and reset us

G2 : no

fnatic : Understandable, have a nice day

G2 : Hey don't force buy and reset us

fnatic : no

G2 : Understandable, have a nice day

fnatic : Hey don't force buy and reset us

G2 : no

fnatic : Understandable, have a nice day

G2 : Hey don't force buy and reset us

fnatic : no

G2 : Understandable, have a nice day

...

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u/little_hands_trex Virtus.pro Jul 19 '17

tired meme is tired

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u/papipescado clutch Jul 19 '17

lot of ppl on this sub overuse memes

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u/ButteredGhost Jul 19 '17

It'll keep getting posted until people downvote it. Remember kids, only you can prevent stale memes

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u/phantomkbmod bravo Jul 19 '17

SUPERTEAM LUL

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u/Nisheee NiP Jul 19 '17

oh god, the boys did make it

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u/cuddlepwince FaZe Jul 19 '17

that was a really good game. i just hope fnatic dont get banged out 1st round of playoffs

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

YES BOYS LET'S GO!

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u/jeb_the_hick Complexity Jul 19 '17

mon baguettespickems!

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u/_Oomph_ 500k Celebration Jul 19 '17

Back to the qualifiers

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u/Thotfully_Yours Jul 19 '17

THE LEGENDS LIVE ON

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u/zoNeCS 10 years coin Jul 19 '17

Just as expected, typical G2 performance.

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u/bleqosu Jul 19 '17

they actually fucking did it

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

cant believe i doubted them

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

FeelsGoodMan

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u/TKLANDGMKONLY Godsent Jul 19 '17

SUPERLUL

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u/Auriono Jul 19 '17

Shox will never make it out of group stage.

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u/Waffliez FaZe Jul 19 '17

Fnatic magic! One of Fnatic's worst map vs one of G2's best. God it feels good to see this team make top 8 again, took so long! I'm happy as a friend.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

Congrats Fnatic!

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '17

YES

Thank you Flusha.

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u/bl1ndsp0t Jul 19 '17

i am pleasantly surprised

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u/JmSunbro FaZe Jul 19 '17

Rip french cs

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u/FuZeyMeero Jul 19 '17

Shox has looked garbage on this superteam

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u/ShhhNoTearsJustDream Jul 19 '17

What is the song played when fnatic won the match? it sounded sick.

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u/RemiusTheMage Jul 19 '17

I LOVE GBATIC WOOOOAIIOOO

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u/MrBananaStorm Renegades Jul 19 '17

I am pissed at the stupid plays G2 made.

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u/Starfleet_Admiral Jul 19 '17

next major qualifier will be fun

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u/Kraze_F35 CS2 HYPE Jul 19 '17

Wonder what will happen with G2, Coming up short in groups I have to wonder whether or not they'll panic and mess with the roster or try and work on their problems.

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u/Waldendy hydra Jul 19 '17

Damn, I hate these matches where one of two teams I love must get eliminated :/

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u/t3r4byt3l0l Immunity Jul 19 '17

VALFARD

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u/finnishfagut Jul 19 '17

Where has this fnatic been the last 6 months.

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u/Duckfright Jul 19 '17

Well, it seems the curse wasn't just on Ex6TenZ.

For fucks sake. :/

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u/69_KEES_KOENEN_69 NiP Jul 19 '17

After I watched the interview with JW I wanted them to win !!

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u/TheDoktor364 Jul 19 '17

THE CURSE IS BROKEN.

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u/Chazy89 Jul 19 '17

Legend once again. TBH that is more than I expected. The match against G2 was pretty strong tho.

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u/MajestyA Jul 19 '17

No amount of skill can stop Shox going out in groups.

Gg. Great game, so much skill on that map.

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u/domi1108 BIG Jul 19 '17

Let's try out next major. Shox, Cold, fallen, niko and a fifth player.

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u/Tankk1n Godsent Jul 19 '17

FAK YEAAAAA!

Feels soooo gooood MAN

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u/thetruethatguy Liquid Jul 19 '17

Fnatic in 2017 memes in PGL LUL

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u/TheBestOtaku G2 Jul 19 '17

Even with a dream superteam we still couldn't break the curse...

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u/UandB Jul 19 '17

G2 showing everyone how to ruin your economy

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u/iSluff Jul 19 '17

2 top 4 HLTV teams gone in groups. Will C9 go out and it's 3 top 5?

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u/jospence Godsent Jul 19 '17

YES!

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u/Targose 5 years coin Jul 19 '17

2015 in 2017? PogChamp

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u/stewie1304k Jul 19 '17

ummmmm.... what's a major qualifier again?

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u/FxShaderz G2 Jul 19 '17

Name a more iconic duo than G2 and not learning their lesson with forcing.