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Discussion | Esports Gambit Esports vs Virtus.pro / PGL Major Kraków 2017 - Round 3 / Post-Match Discussion
Gambit Esports 1-0 Virtus.pro
Train: 16-11
Gambit Esports have advanced to the playoffs.
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Who was the MVP for this map? (POLL)
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MAP: Train
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| GMB | 8 | 8 | 16 |
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| VP | 7 | 4 | 11 |
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| AdreN | 32 | 3 | 17 |
| Dosia | 22 | 3 | 18 |
| HObbit | 21 | 2 | 14 |
| mou | 14 | 2 | 11 |
| Zeus | 13 | 4 | 14 |
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| pashaBiceps | 19 | 0 | 23 |
| Snax | 18 | 2 | 20 |
| byali | 15 | 2 | 17 |
| NEO | 11 | 7 | 20 |
| TaZ | 10 | 4 | 22 |
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u/Brumafriend 500k Celebration Jul 18 '17 edited Jul 18 '17
Gambit 3-0
FaZe 0-3
Who would've predicted this...
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u/Okieant33 MIBR Jul 18 '17
me
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u/ItayK MOUZ Jul 18 '17
pics from pik'em or didnt happen
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u/Flockhand Jul 18 '17
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u/gatrcs Jul 18 '17
The bigger surprise here is picking flipside to get out of groups.
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u/thearkhamknight_111 Astralis Jul 18 '17
I mean not the FaZe 0-3 but I think a fair few people could see Gambit doing very well in group stages, I myself had them as a solid lock.
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u/Brumafriend 500k Celebration Jul 18 '17
I thought they'd make the playoffs, but not go 3-0.
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u/Halit69 Jul 18 '17
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Jul 18 '17
Both players nicknames are AdreN. One is from NA, played on Team Liquid. The other is from the CIS region, plays for Gambit.
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u/LBL147 Jul 18 '17
AdreN is so fucking good its crazy. If Gambit played more lans he would be treated like Niko was last year
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u/C-4 Natus Vincere Jul 18 '17
No he wouldn't, because he wouldn't be solo carrying, the rest of Gambit is pretty solid.
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u/ImJLu ar_baggage Jul 18 '17
The consistency was always there, most people just didn't notice.
That said, he does seem like a big baller to me. Someone call up LaVar.
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u/JNEftw Jul 18 '17
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u/IamBrazilian_AMA 500k Celebration Jul 18 '17
gambit 3-0
Who's gonna be the god that gets gold this pick'em ?
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u/Delvez Virtus.pro Jul 18 '17
AdreN is a fucking god. I really wanna see a CIS shuffle with AdreN and s1mple together.
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u/Cherokeekid Gambit Jul 18 '17
I feel like this would be one of the best CIS teams :
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H0bbit/mou
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u/Delvez Virtus.pro Jul 18 '17
Depending on Guardian's form, I might switch him for mou, but I agree 100% on the other 4 players. Make CIS great again
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u/AdreNMostConsistent MIBR Jul 18 '17
so ez game for AdreN expected performance can not wait for reddit master guardians to tell me how he is low player
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u/Castature Astralis Jul 18 '17
man this is a field day for you
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u/8367633942119 Gambit Jul 18 '17
same im lovin' it, f3 flair until they get to playoffs too but gambit is my fav team, but i knew they would make it so gotta support f3 :P
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u/supergrega Jul 18 '17
Well Vega still went 0-3. But I guess that's because mir had high ping.
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u/rtaSmash G2 Jul 18 '17
dude he is so insanely good, constantly topfragging for his team, winning clutch scenarios, succeeding in high pressure situations. He converts so much danger towards his enemies. Best player with s1mple in CIS region right now, i really want to see them play together.
Zeus AdreN s1mple Electronic Markeloff (hobbit)
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u/ImJLu ar_baggage Jul 18 '17
No surprise, there's a reason he was picked for the CIS superteam back in the day (Astana Dragons LUL)
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u/junttiana Chinggis Warriors Jul 18 '17
I bet you will be the only one happy with your 3-0 pick after today
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u/iSluff Jul 18 '17
You think BIG's gonna win?
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u/Semper_Progrediens Jul 18 '17 edited Jul 18 '17
If BIG beats SK I'll eat a sock
Edit: pls no more upvotes
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u/bdzz Jul 18 '17
Gambit would be such a beast online if they were not playing from Kazakhstan with 200 ping
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Jul 18 '17
YES AT LEAST ONE OF MY TEAMS WON LETS GO CYKA BLYAT
Let's go boys, make it a deep run in playoffs this time
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u/shinikira Jul 18 '17
when will people stop treating gambit like some pleb team, 3-0 should not be that shocking
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Jul 18 '17
Taz is deadweight. His aim this game was just depressing to watch. There's no way we are winning any majors like this, especially with Neo declining more and more.
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u/Duskav3ng3r117 Virtus.pro Jul 18 '17
I hate to say it but I have to agree. So many missed shots it's pretty frustrating.
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Jul 18 '17
Didn't you say the same shit at ELEAGUE, and then they made finals? Lol please
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u/yeame3 Virtus.pro Jul 18 '17
Eh well NEO 24-14 vs fnatic and you have remember that VP as a team haven't been very good the last couple months and given their experience I don't doubt that if the start clicking as a team NEO and TaZ's performance will bump up right there where it needs to be. How many freaking times do NEO and TaZ need to have a slump and come out of it with highlighted-filled performances at crucial times in order for people to stop doubting them?
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u/Cherokeekid Gambit Jul 18 '17
But .. but I thought if they lost to a t4 team online that means they are garbage?
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u/InedibleFood Jul 18 '17
Why are the expectations for Gambit so low from the analysts and casters? I thought so many people were crazy for not putting Gambit in their top 8.
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u/STKNsBESTPLAYER The MongolZ Jul 18 '17
A lot of people think that online BO1s are good indicators of a team's skill and preparedness for some reason. They also seem to forget that Gambit is awful online and is miles better on LAN and especially majors.
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u/tek9knaller Jul 18 '17
aside from that, there's also just plain personal bias. The casters are friends with the western players (and SK is clearly the best team in the world), so they all get hyped etc, but Gambit are outsiders, so nobody is vouching for them.
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u/EnanoMaldito 9z Jul 18 '17 edited Jul 18 '17
AdreN is a god.
I have no idea why people keep being surprised at this point. He plays at this level consistently. Also great to see Mou step up in the last 4-5 rounds after a pretty slow game.
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u/_Administrator 1 Million Celebration Jul 18 '17
As AdreN said: If we do not know what we are doing - how is enemy supposed to know what to do against us?
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Jul 18 '17
I wish analyst and pros/former pros would stop saying gambit isn't a good team and they won't do well at the major.
But they all say "VP ALWAYS SHOW UP AT MAJORS, SO THEY SHOULD CLEARLY MAKE OUT OF THE GROUPS" when half of them say gambit won't even make it out of groups.
some real double standard shit here.
But fuck yeah 3-0 for gambit. I'm really happy for them
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Jul 18 '17
I don't think any analyst has said VP will clearly make it out of groups. Before the first games the sentiment was don't underestimate VP at a major in Poland
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u/Richie5139999 Jul 18 '17
That's so true Gambit are underrated because they dont go to a lot of LANs
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u/Mednieks Jul 18 '17
Because they don't get invited to every single event like C9 does. That's why they don't have a high rating in hltv.
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u/i_wave_to_koalas NiP Jul 18 '17
Gambit showing no class beating vp on hometurf. I thought we would have moved away from this selfish approach to the game by now. But I guess winning is more important than common decency to the gamibit guys. All I can say is that vp would have never beat gambit on hometurf since they actually respect the integrity of the game and its players. smh
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u/_Administrator 1 Million Celebration Jul 18 '17
I love both Polska and Ruskis. I am sad to see Pasha and Taz get old. I am happy to see Gambit advancing also.
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u/ImJLu ar_baggage Jul 18 '17
Gambit is my pick for 0-3
-way too many people lol
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u/KitsuneRommel Vitality Jul 18 '17
Yeah. i bet a lot of people put them 0-3 over Vega, Penta and F3. /s
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u/ImJLu ar_baggage Jul 18 '17
Mmm I saw some posts on here that were upset at the first Gambit win because it fucked their pick-em. Not the smartest pick.
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u/junttiana Chinggis Warriors Jul 18 '17
They never learn because online results apparently mean everything
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u/psychopathic_bastard FaZe Jul 18 '17
Mou: I'm best awper in gambit AdreN: you're not even best awper in Kazakhstan
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Jul 18 '17 edited Jul 18 '17
as long as dosia/mou keep making an impact there's nothing that will surprise me besides beating sk in a bo3. you can generally rely on hobbit/adren, zeus is the brains, and when gambit were shit it was because dosia was really lacking and mou was inconsistent. but dosia has been putting in the impact (probably with zeus to thank), working with teammates to be in really unexpected positions and so on. mou has had tier1 awping skills since before columbus it was evident, but I always thought the team would be better off without dosia (and AdreNMostConsistent really thought dosia was shit). but he's really pulling his weight now
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u/Noobasdfjkl de_nuke Jul 18 '17 edited Jul 18 '17
Massively impressive to beat VP on train. Gambit is certainly looking good for the playoffs. They have yet to face the ultimate challenge of SK, but I don't think it's too controversial to say that Gambit has eclipsed Navi as the premier CIS team.
It seems that the only thing that can beat a VP that's been terrible online for the past while is a Gambit team that's been even worse online for the past few months.
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u/Vitosi4ek Team Spirit Jul 18 '17
If SK-BIG go as predicted, they won't have to face this ultimate challenge until the finals. And yes, Gambit is now the top CIS team (first time in like 6 years someone took that from Na'Vi). Though the impending shuffle is going to mess it all up.
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u/Mightymushroom1 Gambit Jul 18 '17 edited Jul 22 '17
De-Edit: Face saving comment removed, I was right you fucks
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u/Brumafriend 500k Celebration Jul 18 '17
You got downvoted/doubted since you said they'd make the finals (or win).
They haven't done that yet.
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Jul 18 '17
I know its easy to say now they are 3-0 but I am surprised how many people were doubting Gambit in the first place. They lost like 3 online matches against mediocre teams but they have shown how good they are. Zeus is a beast IGL.
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u/bullexcrements 5 years coin Jul 18 '17
Gambit is and has been a very strong team, I don't understand why people underestimate them. Especially with Zeus, who brought his tactical mind into the mix getting unceremoniuosly kicked out of NaVi (which went down the shitter without the proper IGL btw).
So gg Gambit! I hope that VP is also going to secure QF spot though, because I want to see my fellow polish fans going absolutely nuts :P
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u/CEPEHDREI phoenix Jul 18 '17
damn 1.6 AdreN is coming back. He was one of the best players back then but was stopped by his team which wasnt good enough to hang with the very best.
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u/Vitosi4ek Team Spirit Jul 18 '17
Also, you know, constant ping issues that come with playing from goddamn Kazakhstan.
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u/MaxAsf 1 Million Celebration Jul 18 '17
As everyone predicted, Gambit goes to playoffs 3-0 while Faze goes home 0-3.
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u/vorpal107 FaZe Jul 18 '17
VP are really bad at taking advantage of good situations. Always lose more players than they need to meaning their economy is terrible. Also, what's up with all of these dry peaks?
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u/MarsOfDickstruction Jul 18 '17
What was that reset thing? Went to get food and came back and something was going on.
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u/Pizza_and_Reddit CS2 HYPE Jul 18 '17
I don't understand why people keep thinking Gambit's an underdog
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u/Duskav3ng3r117 Virtus.pro Jul 18 '17
Fuck man, Adren is way too good. VP didn't play too bad in the end. I'm sure they'll make it out of groups.
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u/Dedly_Attack Jul 18 '17
i know its said in every thread but gambit are criminally underrated. odds on betting sites were still pretty in favor of VP even though gambit seems much more consistent and polished
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u/stenerikkasvo Jul 18 '17
Someone said on Twitch chat that Dosia looks like Post Malone and i can see the similarity.
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u/hakura97 Jul 18 '17
3-0 to get into the quarterfinals and get absolutely rekt by anyone they play against
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u/twistzzisthenextbrax Liquid Jul 18 '17
well that was VP's only chance of getting to playoffs, they're going out in groups for sure now :/
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u/Flockhand Jul 18 '17
Props to everyone who trusted in their 3 - 0
P.S. Made all picks based on watching previous majors xd
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u/Epicallytossed Jul 18 '17
/u/AdrenMostConsistent was right all along. Holy shit, what a game from him.
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u/dlkyuubi Virtus.pro Jul 18 '17
taz was not feeling it today, missed a lot of sprays, hope vp advances to the playoffs, gg
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u/Mad_Lee Cloud9 Jul 18 '17
Virtus Pro should either hang them or do a roster shuffle. They have great strats and communication, but individual skill is sub-par for tier-1 teams. The mistakes they make are inexcusable if they want to compete with the likes of SK, Astralis and G2. In fact in their current form they are not winning more than 5 rounds versus SK.
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u/Agussc Jul 18 '17
How is Adren so damn good?
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u/Okieant33 MIBR Jul 18 '17
Because he's only 27, was a great 1.6 player, has a great in-game leader and overall team around him. Gambit is constructed really nicely in mixing new players with older veterans. I think the only place they could improve is at awp but mou has been playing great but I love how they're set up.
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u/crippz- Gambit Jul 18 '17
This Major we will go far! We have a way better mappool with Cbble, Overpass, Train, Inferno and for some reason cache was pretty good against G2 and the second reason is: Mou is stepping up! He had 3 good games in the groups
LETS GO GAMBIT!
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u/BiC-Pen Jul 18 '17
Taken from wikipedia.
A gambit (from ancient Italian gambetto, meaning "to trip") is a CS:GO opening in which a team, more often White (which wants to take a revenge on Black from the last Major in Atlanta (Jan '17) in the similar scenario of competing for 3:0 win), sacrifices first 5 rounds, usually a pawn, with the hope of achieving a resulting advantageous position. Some well-known examples are the King's Gambit aka Zeus Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.f4), Queen's Gambit aka X GOD Gambit (1.d4 d5 2.c4), and Evans Gambit aka HObbit Gambit (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.b4). There are speculations about AdreN and mou gambits being discovered in the near future. As of now, Gambit King's zipped their mouth for some eventual suprises.
Congrats!
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u/tarangk clutch Jul 18 '17
i love zeus and therefore gambit and when the won against mouz it made sense coz of the map but beating g2 on cache and vp on train just wow they havent even played their best maps which are cobble and overpass if they can avoid SK which is very likely assuming SK wins over BIG then gambit can easily make semis, am so excited for zeus, imagine a world where Navi doesnt make playoffs and Zesu & co make the semis you woudlnt have predicted it 2 weeks back but strong chance of it happening considering navi at 1-2 atm.
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u/askmeforbunnypics Jul 18 '17
I was happy with whoever won this BO1 so I could cheer on either team. VP better not choke now, on the next team or two they face :P
Congrats to Gambit. They are a good team, albeit underwhelming. I wish they were better, even though they went 3-0 in this qualifier, I still think they aren't as good as the likes of Astralis or Fnatic or G2 and definitely not anywhere as good as SK. GL though :D
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Jul 18 '17
Some of Pasha's decision making is just plain awful... But I'm happy for Zeus and hope VP can bounce back in the next round and secure that sweet spot in the playoffs.
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u/Eterna1Ice The MongolZ Jul 18 '17
The team that closest to beating Gambit in Krakow? Playing Ducks.
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u/eSportsStats Jul 18 '17
Gambit vs Virtus.Pro is the most popular match of the day (excl. Chinese viewers):
Stats including Chinese - http://i.imgur.com/jc54YnZ.jpg
Stats excluding Chinese - http://i.imgur.com/fSfWdkp.jpg
Detailed event stats (TOP5 matches):
https://esc.watch/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-krakow-2017
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u/internet_fame Virtus.pro Jul 18 '17
well played to gambit, great mix of tactics and skill
hope VP goes 3-1 to the playoffs
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u/puog Renegades Jul 18 '17
damn i had gambit going 3-0 in my pickem FeelsGoodMan
if only i didn't have faze advancing FeelsBadMan
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u/Kolax_ de_dust2 Jul 18 '17
I think a lot of people underrate Gambit because they aren't as popular as teams like SK or Astralis. Slowly but surely they are making a name for themselves.
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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '17
Gambit's Major Cycle:
Be underrated going into the group stage
Do incredibly well, people are surprised that they pull of all these "upsets"
Go into Quarters, lose against a strong team
People complain that they don't deserve legends spot