r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Jun 12 '17
Discussion | Esports Immortals vs Cloud9 / PGL Major Kraków 2017 Americas Minor - Grand-Final / Post-Match Discussion
Immortals 1-2 Cloud9
Mirage: 5-16
Inferno: 16-7
Cache: 5-16
Congratulations to Cloud9 on winning the PGL Major Kraków 2017 Americas Minor!
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MAP 1/3: Mirage
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| IMT | 5 | 0 | 5 |
| CT | T | ||
| C9 | 10 | 6 | 16 |
| IMT | K | A | D |
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| boltz | 16 | 1 | 18 |
| kNg | 15 | 7 | 19 |
| LUCAS1 | 13 | 2 | 18 |
| HEN1 | 9 | 1 | 19 |
| steel | 8 | 1 | 19 |
| C9 | |||
| n0thing | 25 | 2 | 12 |
| autimatic | 22 | 3 | 15 |
| Stewie2k | 19 | 4 | 14 |
| Skadoodle | 17 | 3 | 7 |
| shroud | 10 | 2 | 14 |
Map 1 Detailed Stats
MAP 2/3: Inferno
| Team | CT | T | Total |
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| IMT | 9 | 7 | 16 |
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| C9 | 6 | 1 | 7 |
| IMT | K | A | D |
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| LUCAS1 | 24 | 5 | 15 |
| HEN1 | 23 | 4 | 10 |
| boltz | 19 | 6 | 15 |
| kNg | 18 | 3 | 15 |
| steel | 11 | 0 | 13 |
| C9 | |||
| n0thing | 17 | 1 | 20 |
| Skadoodle | 16 | 3 | 19 |
| Stewie2k | 14 | 3 | 19 |
| autimatic | 11 | 6 | 18 |
| shroud | 10 | 5 | 19 |
Map 2 Detailed Stats
MAP 3/3: Cache
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| IMT | 5 | 0 | 5 |
| CT | T | ||
| C9 | 10 | 6 | 16 |
| IMT | K | A | D |
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| boltz | 21 | 3 | 15 |
| steel | 10 | 0 | 17 |
| LUCAS1 | 9 | 3 | 17 |
| kNg | 9 | 1 | 17 |
| HEN1 | 8 | 2 | 16 |
| C9 | |||
| Skadoodle | 23 | 2 | 8 |
| autimatic | 16 | 4 | 15 |
| shroud | 16 | 1 | 8 |
| Stewie2k | 15 | 7 | 13 |
| n0thing | 12 | 3 | 13 |
Map 3 Detailed Stats
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u/Cloud9_On_LAN Jun 12 '17
The curse is broken.
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u/KPC51 guardian2 Jun 12 '17
WE DID IT
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I knew all i had to do was put money on immortals. Took one for the team bois
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u/closestyoulleverbe EG Jun 12 '17
lmao i just picture you extensively planning how C9 could win, and its by betting against them.
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Jun 12 '17
It's a win-win. If C9 wins, your team won. If immortals win at least you get some $
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u/JohnnySkeletman Liquid Jun 12 '17
It's also a lose-lose however.
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Jun 12 '17
eh, the wins balance out the losses so we're all back to square one as if nothing even happened in the first place
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Jun 12 '17
Death, taxes, and Cloud9 losing to Imm- WHAT
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u/emul4tion Liquid Jun 12 '17 edited Dec 20 '24
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u/deepr EG Jun 12 '17
not trying to freak out or anything but c9 might be the best team in the world
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u/ClassyChameleon Jun 12 '17
IM HERE TO OVERREACT
ITS SUMMER BOYS (actually though, today was such a nice day in Boston)
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u/ChefBoyardab Jun 12 '17
Skadoodle has really been picking up in form. With him, tim, and stew playing well C9 could be a dangerous team. We will have to wait and see what happens.
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u/TastyLife Jun 12 '17
n0thing too has had some pretty great plays this tournament, if c9 all shows up at the same time then maybe we have a solid chance for qualifying the major
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u/Linkux18 Match Thread Team Jun 12 '17
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u/MattCV27 Jun 12 '17
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Jun 12 '17
For a second I thought you had an Immortals flag and got confused. (Yeah, I know Immortals flair is not a real thing).
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u/TheRealF0xE Jun 12 '17
First time beating Immortals on lan this is some celebration!
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u/buldieb 750k Celebration Jun 12 '17
C9 games are fucking wild man. It's downright amazing that they can completely forget how to play on the second map then look good again on the third.
They finally did it! They beat a similarly ranked tier 2 team!
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Jun 12 '17
Never forget EPL S4 Finals Grand Final, when C9 went from winning 13-2 to losing 15-19 on the first map, then proceeding to destroy SK on the next two maps. Mental fortitude is real.
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u/PolloFrio Jun 12 '17
It's strange how much people say the tilt easily. I think they do tilt during games but between games they are excellent at resetting which is awesome.
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Jun 12 '17 edited Jun 12 '17
Best quote of the series "it looks like a pug, smells like a pug, but is actually a lan final"
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u/Immortalsgg Official Immortals Jun 12 '17
After a 9-0 streak, they have finally won against us. GG to them! :D
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u/-mach1ne- Jun 12 '17
Your team is great and will see success in the future. Good on you for being good sports and gl in the major!
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u/RoGeZombie Jun 12 '17
How do you get it to say cloud 9 fan?? (I'm a noob)
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u/LordNelson27 Parivision Jun 12 '17
Sidebar, choose your flair. Only works on desktop version, not mobile
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u/s4Nn1Ng0r0shi fnatic Jun 12 '17
Is the majority of this sub really American, or are there lots of C9 fans from EU?
Or are just everyone jumping the meme-train?
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u/s4Nn1Ng0r0shi fnatic Jun 12 '17
Yeah, but does it tell that this sub is actually fominated by NA users?
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u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team Jun 12 '17
Given my past experience with timezones and post match threads I'd say either most esport fans are american or there is simply more american redditors on this sub
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Jun 12 '17
good for c9, but I hope they don't think their pugstyle will work against tier1 EU teams. if "beating IMT" convinces them to keep doing the same shit, well, then maybe they should have lost.
I saw some glimmers of structure with Stew's calls, so hopefully that happens more in the qualifier.
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u/jtuck25 de_overpass Jun 12 '17
While I'm glad C9 won the tournament... I can't help but to feel like immortals get a little slighted with this format... C9 came from the losers bracket and took $15k out of their pocket.
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u/Lanaya_ss Astralis Jun 12 '17 edited Jun 12 '17
whats even the point of having an upper bracket if the team from the upper bracket gets no advantages?
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u/Sbtl Liquid Jun 12 '17
It's probably because the tournament is more about picking 2 teams to move on to the qualifier than determining a grand finals winner, and a loser bracket is a better system for doing that then just taking the 1st and 2nd place teams from the winners bracket.
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u/tranmamba Jun 12 '17
ez 4 North American multigaming organization cloud9 hosting the North American counter-strike: global offensive roster from the United States and Canada who won "esl pro league season 4 finals" consisting of the 1.6 mad fragger jordan "dancing queen" gilbert, pug god mike "that's going on reddit" grzesiek, NAs yungest jake "stop pushing the smokes" yip, the NA turret tyler "there were no skins to trace" latham, and all around star and support timothy "online piece of Asian shit" ta
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u/zarathrustra1936 Complexity Jun 12 '17
The game changer here was the aggression. I liked how they pushed aggro for opening kills on CT side on Mirage. I feel like that almost takes the pressure off of them during the game by doing something fast paced and instinctive. Looks like an adjustment, which is good stuff. Shroud skadoodle and n0thing all had impact too. This is probably the best they've looked since EPL S4.
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u/The_Blue_Rooster bloodhound Jun 12 '17
I'm not saying this is one of the greatest moments in C9's history, but damn if it doesn't feel like it.
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u/Felpes1520 Jun 12 '17
wat I thought IMT would have some advantage since they were in the upper bracket. well gg
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u/Ajp_iii Jun 12 '17
valve dont know what a double elim bracket is. we are lucky it is even double elim for the minors. in the end this game means almost nothing.
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u/Cameter44 Jun 12 '17
Twitch chat is so bad when it's an NA team vs a Brazilian team. When the BR team is winning it's full of people calling them monkeys. When the NA team is winning it's "BR 2 majors, NA 0 majors." I even saw "BR 2 majors, NA -2 towers." In what world is that funny? Some of it just doesn't make sense like "USA= Fat Guys virgens." It's just the worst.
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u/Felpes1520 Jun 12 '17
Thats how it is in twitch and hltv and in every esport tbh just try to see it as a joke bc irl nobody would say that
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incoming brazilians trying to explain to me how IMT totes wasn't even trying and this game didn't even matter
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u/dixy48 Jun 12 '17
Of course they tried, nobody wants to lose. That being said, this game really did not matter in the grand scheme of things.
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u/acoluahuacatl Jun 12 '17
as a European, I felt the idea of this match being played again was stupid from the minute I found out it was going to be played. Had this tournament been played with a standard format, they'd have won it yesterday. Remember the outcry we had when OpTic had to do it the last time around? Yeah...
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u/pancada_ FURIA Jun 12 '17
IMT was trying, they were shite, C9 deserved to win, but the match was meaningless. One thing does not rule the other out
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u/pancada_ FURIA Jun 12 '17
>cloud9 finally beats immortals on lan
>it's a worthless game as both are already qualified
Lmao couldn't have been better
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Better seeding and twice the prize money. Not exactly worthless but I see what you mean.
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u/Cameter44 Jun 12 '17
Seeding for the major qualifier is pretty important even if you want to ignore $15k. C9 will get a chance to play OpTic/HR/F3 first or possibly even jump up to a two seed and get Vega, Renegades, or Tyloo. That depends on which team they bump up from a three to a two since there are only seven teams in the major qualifier from bottom eight of the last major since NV doesn't have 3/5 of their roster.
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u/Lanaya_ss Astralis Jun 12 '17
so, let me see if i get it right, IMT had already beaten C9, C9 goes through the losers bracket they make to the finals but IMM has no advantages for already beating them in the winners bracket? i mean, that sounds dumb, at the end it was 3 maps for Immortals and 2 for C9 but C9 won the tourney lol, IMM should at least have a map advantage on a bo5 or they should play another Bo3 since it ended up tied on 1 bo3 each.
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u/AngriestGamerNA Liquid Jun 12 '17
C9 won a LAN PogChamp // . An NA qualifier LAN, but still a LAN
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u/Tavob0y Jun 12 '17
Immortals is so garbage, can't wait to watch them go out 2/3 at the major qualifier again xD
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u/KQLYWASFRAMED Astralis Jun 12 '17
that's a stange format, Immortals won 3 maps against C9 and C9 won 2. the team coming from the uper bracket should get a map advantage and make it a bo5 like they do on dota 2.
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u/niofalpha Team SoloMid Fan Jun 12 '17
The 1v3 on Pistol round from the last BO3 on Cache they played killed them. C9 probably would have won the map if they didn't throw that.
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u/bananasash Jun 12 '17
really happy about how well jordan played this tourney, very good job from him
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u/weesijie NiP Jun 12 '17
The team that comes from the consolidation finals always wins the finals, Tyloo, Vega and now C9
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u/kapparrino CS2 HYPE Jun 12 '17
With NIP out of the majors I will be rooting for C9. It wouldn't matter actually as I would be rooting for both of the teams. Because of the players in the teams.
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u/eaglesquadgaming FaZe Jun 12 '17
Every map went almost exactly the same. The team starting CT side wins the half convincingly only dropping a couple rounds at the end of the half, followed by a run away second half.
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u/PlatosApprentice Jun 12 '17
As awesome as the result is, I can't help but feel like C9 wastes 3-5 rounds a map by randomly deciding to 'try' different things. I saw Stew/Tim with an awp in random rounds. I understand wanting to let Skadoodle try rifling a bit so that in case they need him to swap off of the AWP, someone could pick it up. It just seemed like when they tried this, Stew/Tim would instantly get picked and lose the AWP.
If anyone can explain their thinking here, I'm all ears. I'm curious. It just didn't make much sense to me.
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u/CLTY_Formatz Jun 12 '17
I am now ready to be disappointed at the major qualifier :D