/r/betterCallSaul does not support the site-wide CSS removal.

[u/skinkbaa]

Hi /r/betterCallSaul,

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If you haven't heard yet, Reddit is planning to discontinue support for custom CSS on all subreddits in favor of a more mobile friendly customization system (details yet unknown).

If you want to help us, you can make your voices heard towards the reddit admins and over at r/ProCSS

(Further info on how you can help)

Thank you for your time!

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- The/r/betterCallSaul Mod Team

[u/lawyerb0y909]

Noob question: why is this bad?

[u/skinkbaa → u/lawyerb0y909]

Are you on desktop or mobile?

[u/lawyerb0y909 → u/skinkbaa]

Mobile

[u/skinkbaa → u/lawyerb0y909]

If you use reddit on mobile, then this change won't really affect you.

But for the desktop users, CSS is everything you see on reddit.

One of the most biggest reasons on why we oppose it, is because many native features that you now see in reddit were originally CSS hacks.

A list of a few:

• Sticky posts and comments exist as a native feature because of exactly this argument. A lot of subs were doing them with CSS and demonstrated that this functionality was in high demand, thus leading to its support as a native feature.

• User flair started out like this. People hacked it together with CSS, and so many subs started using it that it was added as a native feature.

• Submission flair started out like this. People hacked it together using CSS and it become so widely used that its value was recognized as a native feature.

• Inline emotes and image macros are implemented using CSS.

• Spoilers are a CSS hack.

• Announcements, banners, and customized header navigation (such as dropdown menus, popovers, and drawers) are all CSS hacks.

Getting rid of CSS moves the entire burden of iterative design and experimentation onto the admins, so users themselves won't be able to change their subreddit and mess around with it, experiment and try to add new features that could benefit their subreddits and possibly added as a native feature.

CSS adds unique character and specialized functionality to subreddits that distinguishes them from the crowd.

People are understandably very upset about this. Not only moderators who have put countless hours into building distinctive, unique, and appealing communities, but those users who come to Reddit specifically for those communities. There are a lot of users who are brought to Reddit by single subs. Sometimes they stay there, but sometimes they come to enjoy the rest that Reddit has to offer.

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(summarized from /u/dakta's post here)

[u/lawyerb0y909 → u/skinkbaa]

Well that sucks! I'll spread the word!

[u/Naziweed88 → u/skinkbaa]

Damn Yo,I don't know how I feel about this.It seems kind of Shady....

[u/ageoftesla → u/Naziweed88]

forks over 10,000 karma

How are you feeling now?

[u/abdullahcfix → u/ageoftesla]

Better. Much better, yeah.

[u/Sok_Pomaranczowy → u/skinkbaa]

Wouldnt a simple user agent check resolve this issue?

[u/JonathanL72 → u/skinkbaa]

I use the desktop version of Reddit on my phone

[u/tyros → u/skinkbaa]

I always turn off custom CSS on desktop, it's annoying and distracting. So I really couldn't care less about this change, but I wish you guys luck.

[u/[deleted] → u/tyros]

Yep, same here. Was never a big fan of it, especially when certain subreddits would go overboard with it.

[u/ManWithoutModem]

but what if a widget makes the subreddit name change from /r/betterCallSaul to /r/BetterCallSaul? checkmate

[u/skinkbaa → u/ManWithoutModem]

why would we want to change something that was ^{definitely done on purpose?}

[u/tyros]

I, for one, don't care about subreddit CSS, it's distracting and doesn't provide consistent experience across subreddits. But apparently, I'm in the minority.

[u/skinkbaa → u/tyros]

CSS is all about the looks and the themes though.

[u/[deleted] → u/tyros]

There's already an option to turn it off if you don't like it.

[u/tyros → u/[deleted]]

Yup, and I use it. That's why I'm completely fine with the current state of affairs

[u/xereeto]

Thank you. Removing CSS is a real Chuck move, reddit.

[u/CeruleanRuin]

Reddit is planning to discontinue support for custom CSS on all subreddits

Well that's fuckin' lame.

[u/TotesMessenger]

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[u/NateShaw92]

What is the point in doing this? It can only be for mobile users, and they won't really notice a difference, why should accommodating them fuck with the PC experience, it doesn't for many other sites.

[u/skinkbaa → u/NateShaw92]

This is their reasoning behind it:

• It’s web-only. Increasing users are viewing Reddit on mobile (over 50%), where CSS is not supported. We’d love for you to be able to bring your spice to phones as well.

• CSS is a pain in the ass: it’s difficult to learn; it’s error-prone; and it’s time consuming.

• Some changes cause confusion (such as changing the subscription numbers).

• CSS causes us to move slow. We’d like to make changes more quickly. You’ve asked us to improve things, and one of the things that slows us down is the risk of breaking subreddit CSS (and third-party mod tools).

Personally, the only reason of those that I see valid is the last one.

[u/jonnyclueless]

All I can say is..... display:none;

[u/JonathanL72]

Anybody on Reddit who does support it?

[u/FromThe4thDimension → u/JonathanL72]

Me tbh.

[u/JonathanL72 → u/FromThe4thDimension]

Why?

[u/skinkbaa → u/[deleted]]

Did you read my below comment?

CSS isn't just about styles and themes that a subreddit has.

[u/Boxey7 → u/[deleted]]

Fuck I think I'm having an aneurysm

[u/fendervans → u/[deleted]]

I thought r/ooer was bad