r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Jan 29 '17
Discussion | eSports Virtus.pro vs SK Gaming / ELEAGUE Major 2017 - Semi-Final / Post-Match Discussion
Virtus.pro 2-0 SK Gaming
Train: 19-17
Cobblestone: 16-14Overpass:
Virtus.pro have advanced to the finals
SK Gaming have been eliminated.
Who was the MVP for this series? (POLL)
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MAP 1/3: Train
| Team | CT | T | OT1T:CT | Total |
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| VP | 10 | 5 | 1:3 | 19 |
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| SK | 5 | 10 | 2:0 | 17 |
| VP | K | A | D |
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| Snax | 28 | 2 | 22 |
| NEO | 27 | 3 | 23 |
| pashaBiceps | 22 | 7 | 24 |
| TaZ | 22 | 4 | 23 |
| byali | 19 | 11 | 28 |
| SK | |||
| fox | 26 | 8 | 23 |
| fer | 26 | 5 | 28 |
| coldzera | 24 | 3 | 22 |
| TACO | 23 | 2 | 27 |
| FalleN | 21 | 4 | 18 |
Map 1 Detailed Stats
MAP 2/3: Cobblestone
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| VP | 6 | 10 | 16 |
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| SK | 9 | 5 | 14 |
| VP | K | A | D |
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| TaZ | 30 | 0 | 16 |
| pashaBiceps | 24 | 2 | 19 |
| Snax | 20 | 2 | 19 |
| byali | 19 | 7 | 19 |
| NEO | 12 | 7 | 18 |
| SK | |||
| coldzera | 28 | 6 | 20 |
| FalleN | 20 | 3 | 21 |
| fox | 19 | 3 | 19 |
| TACO | 16 | 6 | 23 |
| fer | 8 | 5 | 22 |
Map 2 Detailed Stats
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u/supergrega Jan 29 '17
Death, taxes and VP turning on the plow at the major.
Shoutout to fox, he played really well.
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u/gkalz valeria Jan 29 '17
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Jan 29 '17
Taz rekted this map... Not soo many flashy plays, but he grinded 30 bomb right there ez.
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u/NA_CS_LUL Jan 29 '17
Taz on cbble: https://i.imgur.com/pkpA9t0.gif
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u/Mojito830 Jan 29 '17
Henry & Sadokist said it perfectly, regardless of your age anyone can continue to play pro CS, and Taz is a perfect example of it. Amazing performance by him.
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u/IggyTiggy Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
He's really proving it true the last couple months really. He's been popping heads like you'd expect byali to, his aim's been super crisp recently.
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Jan 29 '17
Don't forget, Taz isn't a whole lot older than Edward and Zeus. And those two aren't doing too badly either
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u/HectorSeibelp Jan 29 '17
cold actually said in a recent interview that age is not a problem for esports regardim aim, taking especially Taz as an example. He said the only thing to deal with it is traveling to places very often, which is why we see VP skipping so many LANS, unfortunately
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u/AG3NT_86 Jan 29 '17
It only makes it more special when they do play though. I'd like to see more teams skipping smaller lans tbh.
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u/Quil0n Jan 29 '17
Taz/VP definitely deserved that win. They're very consistent at majors, and Taz certainly showed up.
On the other hand, I'm excited to see what SK can do with Felps. Fox is good, but not enough practice time = worse teamwork.
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u/IggyTiggy Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
I think getting felps to work will take quite some time. His role on Immortals was what fer does, so one of them will have to take a step back.
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u/thebrainypole Complexity Jan 29 '17
Fox's role is what fallen did. It worked often. I think they'll be back in contention unless chemistry just isn't there at all
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u/Abitou Luminosity Jan 29 '17
The worst thing to hear while your team plays Virtus Pro is "Here comes snax ..."
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u/sreynolds1 wildfire Jan 29 '17
"it's the big apple and snax is hungry" one of the best lines ever
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u/RPSOliveira clutch Jan 29 '17
"does find one..."
"oh no"
when henry said that i knew it already
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u/gansao Jan 29 '17
Well played Virtus.pro, such a strong team.
But why the fuck SK never go A on Cobble? WTF.
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u/crispywaffle Jan 29 '17
faceslamming into B with 30 seconds every round was so painful to watch
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u/DarthSyphilitis Jan 29 '17
A is very hard to take against Snax or NEO (or someone like Krimz, Friberg) who are good at holding off and isolating players. It offers a lot of cover and opportunities to hide and waste time, and VP were rotating really quickly so if they go A they will probably get delayed by Snax shuffling around in site and using counter-nades until the rotation is there. It is a wide open site that is hard to take once the CTs are onto it and in position.
I would have liked to see them try it more, not bothering at all even if you have had little success against it in the past seems strange considering B site was very difficult to get into with 4-5 CTs there by the time you enter the site at 30 seconds left.
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u/saddy_dumpington M80 Jan 29 '17
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u/VINCE_C_ de_overpass Jan 29 '17
Respect to SK. Great match.
Go NEO!!!
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Jan 29 '17 edited Jan 29 '17
Respect to Fox also. He was actually second best player in semi-finals for SK by rating. Only Coldzera above him. Hope he finds nice team after this.
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u/amidoes 10 years coin Jan 29 '17
I think he is making a team with jkaem and Maikelele
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u/xdaftphunk Liquid Jan 29 '17
And he had a higher rating than FalleN and Taco throughout the whole event, not bad all things considered.
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u/xPokeyyy Match Thread Team Jan 29 '17
VP's CT side on Cobble is just insane
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u/viktorlogi Jan 29 '17
It's funny, because it used to be their T-side that they'd dominate on on cbble, but now it's their CT side and their T-side is lacking.
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Jan 29 '17
I don't know if this is a trend but SK is dominant on CT sides and lacking T sides as well. I don't know what's happening, maybe the executions became to predictable and now all teams are favoring CT sides?
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u/AddisonMW guardian_elite Jan 29 '17
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Jan 29 '17
VP VS ASTRALIS FINALS
I LEGIT DO NOT CARE WHO WINS BECAUSE I'M HAPPY KNOWING ONE OF THEM WILL
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u/I_has_intelligents BIG Jan 29 '17
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u/__SyN__ Jan 29 '17
still a sick performance with a stand-in fox really fucked some haters
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u/DreamDust128 Jan 29 '17
For me it was a win-win for SK and fox. Sk got their legends spot with a good seed and Fox proved himself a bit and "sold" himself to other teams as an option.
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u/olofpass Jan 29 '17
This game itself was a final
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u/Szween Jan 29 '17
Astralis-navi was also sick, gonna be really disappointed if the final doesn't hold up to those standards
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u/FinancialThrow Jan 29 '17
That was some amazing CS. As a dad of a 6 year old CS fan we almost wanted to see another map today. But the plow will be strong tomorrow.
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u/Marcs_26 Jan 29 '17 edited Jan 29 '17
the unstoppable force against the immovable object is the the finals we are gonna get. gonna be sick
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u/NDF2k Godsent Jan 29 '17
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u/crispywaffle Jan 29 '17
more like run down the clock more, didn't work? run down the clock more
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u/Dezterity Jan 29 '17
Don't forget to always go B
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u/crispywaffle Jan 29 '17
not even joking, I feel like cyka blyat rash B would have worked more than sitting on B plat for 90 seconds
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u/joaovictor778 MIBR Jan 29 '17
So much respect for Virtus Pro. All the games they have played against SK was AWESOME. Hope they win this major, especially for Neo and TaZ. Legends!
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u/Cavi7 Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
Cool to hear that from an SK flair! Good job on that semi final tho, taking VP to overtime and having a full 30 round second map with a stand-in was amazing! I would say this match certainly deserved to be the final itself! Hope SK will come back to their former glory with felps!
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Jan 29 '17
Most of us brazilians chereed for foreign teams before we had a top team ourselves. VP, Fnatic and NiP have huge fanbases here. I'm not mad we lost to VP, specially the way it went, I really hope you guys get that deserving 2nd major and plow tomorrow.
Also, VP vs SK has become my favorite match to watch, ALWAYS amazing games.
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u/Blueberry_Yum_Yum Liquid Jan 29 '17
Semi Finals with a stand-in against VP who are in top shape? Honestly, I'm not even mad. Along with 1st OT map, and 2nd map going all 30 rounds is pretty goddamn impressive.
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u/amidoes 10 years coin Jan 29 '17
The stand in top fragged in the first map. They did really well but fer only having 8 kills fucked them in the last game.
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u/Blueberry_Yum_Yum Liquid Jan 29 '17
Very true indeed. I'm not saying that fox was a problem at all - in fact he played really well overall. It is a shame about fer, he was SK's best player throughout the tourney - but unfortunately fell short in just 1 map which happened to be the most important one they had to win FeelsBadMan
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u/Dragonslayer314 NiP Jan 29 '17
What an incredible match. Props to SK for doing so well with a stand-in.
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u/Asaree8 Jan 29 '17 edited Jan 29 '17
I love this audience in atlanta. If you are a person who is a part of this huge amount of ppl right there then i would like to thank you for cheering that hard. It's really awesome and your doing very good job!
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u/HankSpank Jan 29 '17
I loved that guy who kept shouting "Virtus" and everyone responded "Pro". Being in the crowd was amazing. I was literally 10 get from vuggo and carn while Fnatic was playing. They seemed bummed but had such great energy.
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u/joshuaM14 Liquid Jan 29 '17
I was there at the fox. The crowd was insane and the hype inside the theatre is very energetic. We were chanting "virtus pro virtus pro" as we were leaving the theater into the Atlanta streets. Fuck the people who say the 8k people couldn't get hype.
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u/Asaree8 Jan 29 '17
Yeah! Thank you man for that and hope you will continue that tomorrow. In my opinion the best moment was when these 2 ppl who stayed started to shout "virtus" and the whole audience ended with "pro". That hyped me to the maximum level.
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u/OnlyMayhem Natus Vincere Jan 29 '17
The wooing was fucking annoying but everything else was awesome
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u/realee420 Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
I have one thing to ask from you guys in the audience: go fuck up the 'woo' kids pls.
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u/diverlad 1 Million Celebration Jan 29 '17
Amazing that after 3 quarter finals that went to all 3 maps, the semis both were done in 2! GG VP
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u/IamBrazilian_AMA 500k Celebration Jan 29 '17 edited Jan 29 '17
The fact that SK reached the semis and had a really competitive match against VP (which now I'm rooting to become champions) with a stand-in is really something. Now imagine that with an organized roster with Felps.. I'm not even mad.
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VP on a final again, that is awesome.
edit: GUYS, I KNOW FOX PLAYED AWESOMELY WELL, but that does not take from the fact that him joining the roster prompted some roles changes, which is bound to produce performance issues (Fallen was subpar this major letting fox awp, for example).
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I think the most impacting way felps will be isn't in fragging power or anything over fox but more that other players (such as fallen) can go back to their previous roles.
Fox has been doing really well but it's taken a toll on the team
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u/AI0N Jan 29 '17
thats true, but felps would definitely aid in SK's seemingly dodgy T sides.
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u/supergrega Jan 29 '17 edited Jan 29 '17
Let's not forget fox has been great in the playoffs.
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u/amidoes 10 years coin Jan 29 '17
He was top fragger on the first game. He played better than what anyone was expecting
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(Fallen was subpar this major letting fox awp, for example).
Let's not kid ourselves, fox barely awped, didn't even awp today and FalleN had his worst maps today
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u/R1cchard MIBR Jan 29 '17
Definitely. Playing with Fox, changing your in-games role, and still getting top 4 at a Major bringing VP (who's playing great atm) to 30 rounds in both maps is an amazing result.
Hope that now, with Felps, the team find his old form. If they fit him right, this new SK roster is going to be as stronger as that fnatic , but with a strong IGL.
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u/shawnington Jan 29 '17
He actually played amazing the whole tournament making quite a few game changing impact plays.
And he did really well when he didn't have an awp. Which was the knock on him. "Fox can only play with an awp".
But he showed that not to be the case.
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Jan 29 '17
Wow. That could have been the Finals right there. Very impressed by Fox's performance and I'm looking forward to VP against Astralis.
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Jan 29 '17
In every major the VP vs SK game could really be the finals.
Congratulations for the win and I can't say I'm sad, SK played really well against top competition with a stand in.
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u/banterstrike de_inferno Jan 29 '17 edited Jan 29 '17
Props to fox, he did great for a stand in, hope he gets another chance in a top team.
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u/MLGlegolas MOUZ Jan 29 '17
fox was so sick here, really good for stand-in, get them into overtime in train and was carrying in a way
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u/JFSnow Liquid Jan 29 '17
fox was far from amazing but still blew most of the expectations towards him, this should make up for him to keep on getting interest from some international teams, which is pretty much what he needs at this point. VP was just too much too handle but I guess SK can be very satisfied for their performance at the major and despite the 2-0, their performance on this match alone. Great game.
Hoping for an Astralis win tomorrow.
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u/Mickymeast Astralis Jan 29 '17
I'm still extremely happy with Fox's performance. He played well above expectations the entire major.
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u/ProfessorOP Jan 29 '17
So proud of VP!! Now hoping they go out and plow through Astralis!!
Im certain that SK will go back to being the scary juggernaut that they were once felps figures out the system!
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u/ehciN Jan 29 '17
I love the entire storyline of this major. The Astralis-core finally makes a final at a major, VirtusPro make their second final with almost 3 years in between at the "most competitive" major with an unchanged lineup since 2013. Just Wow.
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u/MaxedCS Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
Virtus.Pro's T side's just are not what they used to be, they edge out their opponents on their great CT side but if their match against North was any indication they need to work on their T sides and going into their Grand Final match against Astralis will be a real test of that as Astralis are a big T sided team so the two sides will clash, this will be an amazing match to watch.
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u/Kalyr Vitality Jan 29 '17
This SK-VP Derby is always the most entertaining match of any competition
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u/Scratch98 Jan 29 '17
So happy for vp. After 3 close semi final series out of the last 5 majors, they finally made it again. They were so close to beating fnatic at Katowice and cologne, and then SK at cologne last year. Gg to them, I'm still pulling for astralis tomorrow but it's going to be a sick match.
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u/Cool_Like_dat Jan 29 '17
Salty that SK is out but they have their best. Really intense matchup as always between the two teams. Both maps right down to the last round!
Pretty cool of Fallen to give respect to Fox on the stage afterwards.
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Jan 29 '17
plow can't be stopped rip astralis
that said get one QF wrong, everything else right still can't into gold pickems? rippo
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u/pustulio18 5 years coin Jan 29 '17
MRW VP can get me a gold pick'em despite the more difficult format.
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u/sharkk121 Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
https://twitter.com/EL/status/825490816877617160
this is just great :D
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u/Akahari Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
VP finaly is the team they used to be. It's not just Snax or another one of them stepping up. Pasha even outshined Snax in the group stage, Neo was leading on train, Taz rekt that Cobble. VP IS BACK IN DA HOUSE
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Byali just needs to step up tiny bit, back to his Q3 of 2016 form, and they will take this.
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u/I_Love_Fox Jan 29 '17
Gratz VP! You deserve it.
I am happy. SK lose but if you look at the bright side SK didn't played very well. Fallen in this major was 50% what he actually was and every game there was someone who didn't played well, and they have a stand in (who played REALLY well, everyone was surprised). The semi-finals was better than what I expected, and the games against VP were awesome.
Cheering for VP tomorrow!
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u/pheyo FaZe Jan 29 '17
Really competitive match, losing close matches like these with a stand-in is crazy. I can only see SK getting better with Felps, and I want to see Fox on a great team too.
I just hope VP wins now.
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u/traceuser Liquid Jan 29 '17
hmm snax solo pushing mid in the final round at the perfect time... gg ez cheats
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u/McDermottx94 1 Million Celebration Jan 29 '17
Excellent Match.
VP, I never lost faith in you... thanks for keeping the Silver Pick Dream ALIVE.
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u/Trunks1173 de_dust2 Jan 29 '17
Super happy for VP, kinda sad for SK but they did great even though they had a stand in.
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u/AemonDK Jan 29 '17
btw, during the train game, did eleague accidentally show a tweet of a guy covering his penis with snax?
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u/full-of-lead Godsent Jan 29 '17
My beloved team dropped off early, but my countrymen got into the finals! GGWP, I am proud af :D
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u/rhynov3 phoenix Jan 29 '17
GOLD TROPHY LADS https://twitter.com/RhynoCSGO/status/825529945086636034
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u/Mellowed Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
Being a VP fan is so satisfying. They win games that matter, lose random online stuff so you arent sure if they'll win on LAN, and they never change roster. Plus they're all nice dudes who are veterans from a humble country in eSports.
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u/Swbp0undcake Jan 29 '17
VP ARE FUCKING LEGENDARY WOOOOO!
Sk performed really really well with a standin.
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u/PoppyK Jan 29 '17 edited Jan 29 '17
Sad as fuck but hopefully i cant see anything else than good things for SK in the future. They adjusted a main awper into the team in 2 months and that changed cold/fallen gameplay so much... still got semis and pushed VP to the limits. If they did that with fox, fallen for sure can handle Felps. MAJOR respect to fox, insane tournament from him. Also, VP all the way in the finals, its been a long time.
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u/Doofus_McFriendly Jan 29 '17
Sad that SK lost but you couldn't call it a semi final without every map coming down to the wire. Proud of the guys getting this far with a stand-in (if you can even call fox that with the way he played today).
Congrats to VP, all their players were pretty spooky today, and good luck in the final.
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u/pedrohnj Jan 29 '17
I'm happy SK made it to top4 with a standin, but damn, they played badly. cold and FalleN were pretty much asleep on train, even though FalleN had some good rounds. Had it not been for the two pistol rounds, the game wouldn't have been that close.
Their T-side on cbble is still shit. They just hang on B plat for SO long and do nothing. I don't know how they didn't get flanked until the last round. Maybe Snax was saving the flank for it :P
fox was much better than expected. He saved SK so many times I can't even count.
Still, props to VP. Love these guys.
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u/lucasrayken 5 years coin Jan 29 '17
Great match, well played by Virtus.Pro. Good luck against Astralis tomorrow, i'll be definitely be rooting for them now!
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u/ninoxd Jan 29 '17
Astralis vs VP is going to be the best final in history of CSGO, hope sadokist and henry cast for the hypeeeee!
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Jan 29 '17
Sadokist already said he's done with this Major. Considering DDK duo and Sadokist duo commented semis it's obvious Anders and Semmler will handle grand finals.
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u/mikhel Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
So glad to see VP in the finals of a major again finally. Hope they can take it all the way, these guys deserve it for sure.
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u/AmChayChay MOUZ Jan 29 '17
I know it's said all the time, but it still blows my mind that VP can still compete at this level after all this time being the same roster. But also, SK making a semi like this that competitive with a standin (albeit fox did play extremely well) is very impressive as well.
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u/Dusken_ Virtus.pro Jan 29 '17
I'm sad for SK cuz i'm brazilian but ... VP <3 VP <3 VP <3 VP <3 VP <3
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u/dwSHA FaZe Jan 29 '17
Good to see pasha with confident play. Last few years when he more to support role he dont do much on that position
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u/LordNelson27 Parivision Jan 29 '17
If you were an SK fan that final round must have been so hard to watch. VP read the play and stack B with 4, the flank coming in behind, then the absolute massacre on site.
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u/gonnj FaZe Jan 29 '17
When felps join them , SK will be unstopabble
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u/BrunusManOWar NiP Jan 29 '17
Same was thought of navi after getting simple, winning a tourny and smurfing in the groups. They looked like the obvious favourites to win and then lost to Astralis.
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u/OkayAl G2 Jan 29 '17
Wow, sorry if you missed this match. Absolutely insane series.
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u/niNja_ma MOUZ Jan 29 '17
sigh I just got home, rip. I know I can watch a rerun but I already know the result :(
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God as a casual I've got to say I love how SK run the clock down. Makes it so much more exciting when a team you like is playing them, they may just be my favorite team to see play!!
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u/OnlyMayhem Natus Vincere Jan 29 '17
SK got to the semis and pushed vp to the limit with a standin, once they get felps they're going to be fucking sick
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u/Ikkenen FURIA Jan 29 '17
Proud of the boys. What an incredible run this major. Fallen had to change this team in short time and made it work so far.
Ggwp VP. I'm rooting for you tomorrow.
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u/WalrusWisperer Jan 29 '17
Virtaz.pro