r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Jan 28 '17
Discussion | eSports FaZe Clan vs SK Gaming / ELEAGUE Major 2017 - Quarter-Final / Post-Match Discussion
FaZe Clan 1-2 SK gaming
Mirage: 16-7
Train: 3-16
Overpass: 5-16
SK gaming have advanced to the semifinals
FaZe Clan have been eliminated.
Who was the MVP for this series? (POLL)
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| X | ||
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| ✔ | CT | |
| CT | ✔ | |
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MAP 1/3: Mirage
| Team | T | CT | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| FaZe | 12 | 4 | 16 |
| CT | T | ||
| SK | 3 | 4 | 7 |
| FaZe | K | A | D |
|---|---|---|---|
| kioShiMa | 19 | 3 | 11 |
| aizy | 18 | 4 | 15 |
| rain | 17 | 4 | 16 |
| karrigan | 17 | 3 | 16 |
| allu | 12 | 4 | 13 |
| SK | |||
| fer | 20 | 5 | 18 |
| fox | 18 | 2 | 11 |
| coldzera | 12 | 5 | 16 |
| TACO | 11 | 5 | 19 |
| FalleN | 10 | 5 | 19 |
Map 1 Detailed Stats
MAP 2/3: Train
| Team | CT | T | Total |
|---|---|---|---|
| FaZe | 3 | 0 | 3 |
| T | CT | ||
| SK | 12 | 4 | 16 |
| FaZe | K | A | D |
|---|---|---|---|
| allu | 14 | 1 | 17 |
| rain | 10 | 4 | 17 |
| karrigan | 10 | 2 | 17 |
| kioShiMa | 8 | 5 | 18 |
| aizy | 7 | 1 | 18 |
| SK | |||
| fer | 22 | 2 | 14 |
| TACO | 19 | 0 | 8 |
| FalleN | 17 | 1 | 10 |
| coldzera | 16 | 4 | 8 |
| fox | 13 | 6 | 11 |
Map 2 Detailed Stats
MAP 3/3: Overpass
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| FaZe | 5 | 0 | 5 |
| CT | T | ||
| SK | 10 | 6 | 16 |
| FaZe | K | A | D |
|---|---|---|---|
| kioShiMa | 13 | 4 | 18 |
| karrigan | 13 | 1 | 18 |
| allu | 10 | 2 | 17 |
| aizy | 8 | 1 | 19 |
| rain | 5 | 1 | 20 |
| SK | |||
| fer | 26 | 5 | 12 |
| FalleN | 21 | 2 | 10 |
| coldzera | 18 | 2 | 7 |
| TACO | 13 | 6 | 10 |
| fox | 13 | 5 | 10 |
Map 3 Detailed Stats
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Jan 28 '17
Why are they just so good
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u/areyoujokinglol EG Jan 28 '17
I want to hate SK but they're just so fun to watch that it makes me like them. Watching their setups, how well they work the map, etc, it's just so sick.
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u/Keeemy ENCE Jan 28 '17 edited Jan 28 '17
Jesus, what a disappointment after that first map.
Also man, Fer was terrifying.
E: But life goes on and I'm happy with the Legends spot for the next major!
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u/pancada_ FURIA Jan 28 '17
I was mad at kioshima as well, played really solid on all 3 maps
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u/KronoS275 Jan 28 '17
Man I really thought FaZe could win after their strong showing on Mirage
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Jan 28 '17
SK played just straight stupid that entire game
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u/pancada_ FURIA Jan 28 '17
From the start they just weren't using their brains
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u/GivePLZ-DoritosChip MIBR Jan 28 '17
It really baffles me how good SK are at some maps compared to just how bad they are at others. The difference is night and day.
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u/pancada_ FURIA Jan 28 '17
Which is a shame because they were gods on 6 out of 7 maps in mid 2016
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u/americosg cs_italy Jan 28 '17
It is a probably a result of lack of training with Fox, they probably focused on some maps. I bet Felps will help then have a better map pool given the necessary time.
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Jan 28 '17
It seems sk's mirage is horrible with fox, their A setup is weak and aizy could do everything he wanted to inside connector.
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u/sumerioo Jan 28 '17
faze wasted their best chance. they just couldnt "restart" after the train map in the way SK did after mirage.
starting T on overpass is great because all that firepower from faze can really snowball rounds and keep the CT economy in a really bad and weird shape
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u/pheyo FaZe Jan 28 '17
when they went against SK they were up 15-9, I doubt they would let it go again. However, SK still has a really strong core and the maps they were good in the past should still be decent. Train and Overpass were always their best maps.
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Jan 28 '17
Damn fox played pretty well, seems like SK really brings out the best in a lot of players.
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Jan 28 '17
or that fox's era of FaZe brought out the worst. For some reason, looking at fox stats he has been pretty good apart from the FaZe stint. Actually, against tier 2 teams he has been smurfing as seen on his short stint with a portuguese mix after FaZe, 1.5+ ratings almost all games. Also, now that he joins a structured team, he is playing a support role, with A RIFLE and playing very well.
We have to understand that there's a reason fox was called by Maikelele when he was first creating Kinguin, he didn't choose a random player, he went on hltv and picked the guy based on his insane ratings.
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u/Angelic_Phoenix 500k Celebration Jan 28 '17
Well RIP gold but silver is fine i guess
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u/Knorikus Jan 28 '17
Rip silver but bronze is fine
I got 1/4 QF picks and picked navi to win the whole thing.
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u/Angelic_Phoenix 500k Celebration Jan 28 '17
yep, I said navi would win but i got the rest right so far
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u/AnarchyApple Jan 28 '17
Had so much hope after Mirage...
GG
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u/RobertZocker Jan 28 '17
one of us
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u/olofpass Jan 28 '17 edited Jan 28 '17
one of us
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u/memelord76 Jan 28 '17
https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/825391529510445059
tfw faze started losing after he posted this
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u/xXRoXx Jan 28 '17
Major semifinal with a stand in? Holy shit, SK really are on another level.
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u/watdefk Jan 28 '17
Honestly I'm more surprised with the fact that FNATIC made it. SK still has top 1 and 2 players of 2016 on team.
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u/Piotr1234PL MOUZ Jan 28 '17
Thank you SK for saving my Pick'Em, I'm so close to gold.
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u/Grindstone8 1 Million Celebration Jan 28 '17
do you have silver already? What are your remaining predictions?
Gold is going to be REALLY rare this Major lol
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u/Scriak de_mirage Jan 28 '17
I'd reckon even silver will be rare. I was top 2% with 45 points after the Qfinals yesterday!
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u/Piotr1234PL MOUZ Jan 28 '17
24 points from groups, 48 from quarters. 3 more points to gold.
Remaining:
-Fnatic > Astralis (Picked them, because I'm Twist and DD fan and this is semi-final :> )
-VP > SK (2 of my favorite teams, picked VP cuz they finally have their chance to win major again)
Final: VP > Fnatic
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u/Shunshin7 FaZe Jan 28 '17
That 2v5 lost by sk got my butt tight!! They did it anyway, leggooo
Kio beating is former team and fox doing the same
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u/RodriTama Jan 28 '17
The VP vs SK matchup on playoffs again.
VP scarier than ever? Let's goooo
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u/g_ferla Luminosity Jan 28 '17
And SK with a fucking stand-in, Vp can't lose this cmooon
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FOX played surprisingly well
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u/AlexHunterOfficial Jan 28 '17
Not surprising. He's been good the whole tournment and he was never as bad as people make him to be.
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u/IamBrazilian_AMA 500k Celebration Jan 28 '17
top 4 with a stand-in. impressive.
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u/skyfrk Jan 28 '17 edited Jan 28 '17
Two top 4 finishes with fox is incredible. Especially considering Thoorin
gsaid fox was a "tier 7 player".61
Jan 28 '17
Yeah, Fox is tier 7 and Ex6 is the best IGL of all time. Thorin is just biased as fuck, he shouldn't even be called analyst.
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u/bebeMorto Jan 28 '17
dont forget that for him Niko was the best player in the world.
only until they fought on twitter and suddenly niko was shit LUL
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u/Get_Rekt_Son guardian Jan 28 '17
Honestly when he tries to analyzes map vetos he sounds like he's talking right out of his ass.
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Jan 28 '17
Thorin doesn't rate a player or a team by how good they actually are, he rates them based on how many fanboys he thinks he can piss off.
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Jan 28 '17
And a "shitter" as well. Let's not forget that.
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u/skyfrk Jan 28 '17
Yeah, Thoorin has a problem with fox, for whatever reason, apparently.
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u/IamBrazilian_AMA 500k Celebration Jan 28 '17
Apparently fox fucked thorin's mother, stole his cat and slapped him in the face. Didn't you see it on periscope ?!
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u/GGBeavis FaZe Jan 28 '17
He likes to pick on most minorities, besides being incredibly biased. Fox could literally carry sk on a series and thorin would give 100% credit to his mates or fallen.
Also the fact that the portuguese are hated by everyone doesnt help at all.
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u/pedrito3 de_inferno Jan 28 '17
Fox could literally carry sk on a series and thorin would give 100% credit to his mates or fallen.
That's kinda obvious when the e-sports historian consistently fails to remember the major in which fox was one of the best players. Everyone back then agreed that he pretty much proved all his haters wrong, but we shouldn't underestimate the power of selective memory.
Although I do disagree with your second sentence. I personally don't feel that way. Brazilians and russians have it much worse.
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u/IamBrazilian_AMA 500k Celebration Jan 28 '17
he's playing incredibly well, guess Thorin prediction are always wrong lul
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Jan 28 '17
lol fucking Thorin
I'd say that a player that gets consistent +1.00 ratings on a major against tier 1 opposition is pretty much a solid tier 1 player.
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u/pancada_ FURIA Jan 28 '17 edited Jan 28 '17
eZ aF
fer is a god dude, so far SK's mvp at the major with cold
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u/GivePLZ-DoritosChip MIBR Jan 28 '17
Fer's hair styling skill is inversely proportional to his in game skill.
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u/Grindstone8 1 Million Celebration Jan 28 '17
This match in a nutshell to me:
Counter-Strike: Pistol Rounds Offensive
Jokes aside. In all seriousness I really do feel like pistol rounds have TOO MUCH of an impact especially when I watch series like this. And this isn't the only one so far in this Major where I felt like the match was mostly decided by the pistol rounds.
I get it that pistol rounds need to be important though, but it shouldn't be like this.
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u/MattJah de_train Jan 28 '17
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u/Opelucid Jan 28 '17
eZaF for SK after Mirage, imagine if they win their 3rd major in a row, with a stand in
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u/americosg cs_italy Jan 28 '17
I really want then to win because of Fox, he is performing so well... If they win a major hist stake will rise and he might go to a tier 1 team.
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u/Opelucid Jan 28 '17
The thing is, obviously they've already agreed to bring Felps in... if they somehow win this major, do they stick with him or with Fox?
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u/americosg cs_italy Jan 28 '17
Nah fox is an Awper SK really doesn't want one. If they did probably KNG and YEL could be higher on the least seeing as the communication is easier.
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u/RubberDuckRub FaZe Jan 28 '17
I'd think that they have zero problems with comms regarding fox.
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Jan 28 '17
I just want them to win just so Thorin will have to forever admit that the player he has called the worst in the world for so long has won a major.
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3 consecutive major semifinal appearances. This one with a stand-in. End of the LG/SK era my ass. Dynasty.
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u/xXRoXx Jan 28 '17
'SKs era is over!!'
SK has been on semifinals for every last big tournament...
RUNSKG
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u/C_a_f_e FURIA Jan 28 '17
Anders was hyped with every kill from faze on overpass and seemed upset when SK won rounds lol
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u/ManManMenace Renegades Jan 28 '17
It seems like SK were going to struggle coming in but they have shown they always show up at majors.
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u/Vawqer 1 Million Celebration Jan 28 '17
FaZe really need to work on teamwork and cohesion. It might come with time. They had the tactics but were just sort of falling apart.
As well, k1o beat NV to eliminate NV and now Fox beat FaZe to eliminate FaZe.
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u/fightinchunk Jan 28 '17
is playing two high leverage matches on the same day going to put SK at a severe disadvantage?
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u/hatefulemperor Virtus.pro Jan 28 '17
Possibly, or they could be warmed up for the match vs VP. Nobody really knows, if you had to play all day, then that would be too much, but 2 BO3 isn't alot.
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Jan 28 '17
How does Faze break down so easily? Their mental fortitude is so poor. The stars did not show up on the last two maps.
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Jan 28 '17
This is exactly why I never bet on Danish/Norwegian based teams. They always crumble under pressure. By the way I just got a silver pick'em medal.
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u/Jamesbeach1 The MongolZ Jan 28 '17
I think it was mostly rain and aizy (who the team plays around). After the 16:3 they were both very absent from the last map
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u/JmSunbro FaZe Jan 28 '17
Rain disappeared on overpass and im starting to think aizy will never get back the dignitas form. ;(
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Jan 28 '17
rain and aizy were completely useless and they are supposed to be the stars of the team
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u/Tirppa ENCE Jan 28 '17
FaZe plz practice more than two maps.
Other than that solid performance. Practice and get further on the next major. Legend status is nothing to sneeze at.
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SK FERtilizing the quarterfinals with the dead corpses of FaZe. My pick'ems says "thanks you!".
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u/Ontyyyy CS2 HYPE Jan 28 '17
:(((
Time for VP to rek that ass.
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Jan 28 '17
Or not.
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u/yesungxiao MIBR Jan 28 '17 edited Jan 28 '17
laughting out loud at all the eu-na fans cheering against SK...
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Would SK be the first team to win 3 majors??
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u/peevishawp EG Jan 28 '17
Very fun games to watch. I wanted FaZe to win even though I picked SK for pickem. Road to gold!
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u/sg587565 de_inferno Jan 28 '17
why do mods sticky these...
ppl always ignore stickied posts/announcement
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u/kane91123 Liquid Jan 28 '17
So wanted FaZe to win but at least this mean I still have a chance for gold
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u/DelidreaM ENCE Jan 28 '17
There goes the dream of FaZe - VP semifinal and FaZe going to the grand final. RIP
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u/wigan77 10 years coin Jan 28 '17
thx for bronze pick em trophy. now vp taking major and im exactly 50 :D
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u/xslaughteredx Jan 28 '17
You can always count on sk perfoming at big events and majors , even with all the internal problems and playing with a stand in now , its crazy to think about how consistent they are.
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u/Kyost FURIA Jan 28 '17
Fer looking good in this major. This time, IF SK wins, he might get the MVP title.
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u/IAmFatQwerty Jan 28 '17
That was heartbreaking. Gg to SK. Sad to see FaZe go, seeing their potential.
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u/phletGod guardian_elite Jan 28 '17
So thorin thought faze would win overpass because fallen would underperform on overpass ? starting as ct ? with awp available at the game ? seriously ?
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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '17
another vp vs sk semi is gonna be great to watch