r/GlobalOffensive • u/Chuckys2 Match Thread Team • Jan 27 '17
Discussion | eSports Natus Vincere vs Astralis / ELEAGUE Major 2017 - Quarter-Final / Post-Match Discussion
Natus Vincere 1-2 Astralis
Overpass: 7-16
Mirage: 16-14
Dust 2: 10-16
Astralis have advanced to the semifinals
Natus Vincere have been eliminated.
Who was the MVP for this series? (POLL)
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| CT | ✔ | |
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MAP 1/3: Overpass
| Team | CT | T | Total |
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| Na'Vi | 3 | 4 | 7 |
| T | CT | ||
| Ast | 12 | 4 | 16 |
| Na'Vi | K | A | D |
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| flamie | 21 | 1 | 18 |
| Edward | 15 | 5 | 16 |
| seized | 14 | 2 | 16 |
| GuardiaN | 11 | 1 | 20 |
| s1mple | 10 | 4 | 18 |
| Ast | |||
| dev1ce | 22 | 5 | 16 |
| Kjaerbye | 22 | 2 | 12 |
| Xyp9x | 18 | 6 | 12 |
| dupreeh | 16 | 1 | 17 |
| gla1ve | 10 | 6 | 14 |
Map 1 Detailed Stats
MAP 2/3: Mirage
| Team | T | CT | Total |
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| Na'Vi | 9 | 7 | 16 |
| CT | T | ||
| Ast | 6 | 8 | 14 |
| Na'Vi | K | A | D |
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| s1mple | 27 | 2 | 15 |
| GuardiaN | 26 | 4 | 18 |
| flamie | 21 | 5 | 21 |
| seized | 20 | 4 | 20 |
| Edward | 13 | 6 | 21 |
| Ast | |||
| dev1ce | 25 | 4 | 22 |
| gla1ve | 23 | 3 | 18 |
| Xyp9x | 17 | 4 | 20 |
| dupreeh | 16 | 0 | 23 |
| Kjaerbye | 14 | 3 | 24 |
Map 2 Detailed Stats
MAP 3/3: Dust 2
| Team | CT | T | Total |
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| Na'Vi | 8 | 2 | 10 |
| T | CT | ||
| Ast | 7 | 9 | 16 |
| Na'Vi | K | A | D |
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| flamie | 17 | 4 | 22 |
| seized | 17 | 3 | 21 |
| s1mple | 17 | 3 | 21 |
| GuardiaN | 16 | 4 | 18 |
| Edward | 12 | 3 | 18 |
| Ast | |||
| dev1ce | 26 | 1 | 18 |
| Kjaerbye | 20 | 5 | 16 |
| dupreeh | 19 | 4 | 15 |
| gla1ve | 19 | 2 | 14 |
| Xyp9x | 16 | 5 | 16 |
Map 3 Detailed Stats
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u/AlexBayArea Cloud9 Jan 27 '17
Somewhere Zeus is smiling right now.
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u/BardhTheUnicorn FaZe Jan 27 '17
Probably at the fox arena
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u/Marcuskac guardian Jan 27 '17
Oh man oh man, Now i kinda want Gambit to beat Astralis.
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u/Aldous-Huxtable ENCE Jan 27 '17
Zues has said hes still rooting for his boys in navi. Seems very level headed about it.
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Jan 27 '17
He just tweeted his heart is broken :>
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u/AlexBayArea Cloud9 Jan 27 '17
Followed up that tweet and said it's because he wanted to beat them himself :D
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Jan 27 '17
It's not the semis yet..
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u/Mickymeast Astralis Jan 27 '17
Please don't do this to us :(
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Jan 27 '17
inb4 fnatic major champs
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u/TehDragonGuy CS2 HYPE Jan 27 '17
Tbh I wouldn't even rule it out. Not saying it's likely but certainly not impossible.
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u/devic3 Jan 27 '17
RIP pick'ems.
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u/neptunusequester Jan 27 '17
When I saw only 8% on Astralis, I was like:
@_@
Two legit top tier teams in BO3 of a Major. 92% for Na'Vi? Really?
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u/iSluff Jan 27 '17
Navi only has to be favored a little bit for everyone to pick them. If everyone mutually agrees the odds are 55-45 in favor of navi the pickem will be 100-0 in favor of them
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u/Szween Jan 27 '17
True but even betting sites had 80-20 in favour of NaVi, really doesn't make any sense to me. Feels great to be able to abuse it though
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u/Livinglifeform Jan 27 '17
AStrallis was doing shit and Na'Vi was going godlike.
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u/sarrop CS2 HYPE Jan 27 '17
I'm not even mad I lost my pick'ems. That was a freaking brawl between those two. And I feel more hope for VP now.
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u/Vawqer 1 Million Celebration Jan 27 '17 edited Jan 28 '17
I am the 8%. Now time to get all other quarters wrong.
EDIT: 1/3 wrong.
EDIT 2: Got VP - North right. Still in the running for gold Pick 'Em if I get the rest right! Let's go Astralis/FaZe/FaZe again/FaZe again again.
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u/MerlinatoR Jan 27 '17
haha yea indeed - the new pick ems has been a real let down. less available points & more guess work (group stage you had to get lucky your picks did not get drawn against each other at 2-2) and the full prediction on the playoff was a disaster. It would be fine if it were free (like LoL do, I am told) but the fact it costs $10-15 makes it a joke.
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u/thetilemaker Jan 27 '17
simple got further in a major with Liquid LUL
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Jan 27 '17
If Liquid had played SK in the quarters the results would have been the same. Na'vi go 3-0 in groups and get rewarded by playing one of the best teams in the tournament.
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u/Xerroxian valeria Jan 27 '17
I think its the other way around. Astralis go 3-2 in groups and get rewarded by playing one of the best teams in the world
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u/Lorenzo_el_magnifico Astralis Jan 27 '17
Goes both ways, just sucks even more for Na'vi as they were the by far strongest opponent in group stages
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u/MrTimmememe cs_office Jan 27 '17
"and get rewarded by playing one of the best teams in the tournament"...that went 3-2 in groups. (Probably 3-1 if they hadn't played against SK)
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Jan 27 '17
Yea it's bad luck, usually when you're the first team out of groups you should end up playing a weaker team.
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u/Ajp_iii Jan 27 '17
they actually allowed s1mple to make plays. navi isnt letting s1mple flamie or guardian make plays
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u/Satyrs010101 Astralis Jan 27 '17
Such bullshit. Did you not see the Mirage game?
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u/Choupina SAW Jan 27 '17
8%
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u/P1nheadL4rry Astralis Jan 27 '17
Damn it feels good to be in the 8%
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u/areyoujokinglol EG Jan 27 '17
I was demoralized from the group stages, so I let a friend of mine who doesn't follow the scene at all do my picks. He picked Astralis all the way through. I'm so happy right now.
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u/readyaimfire_exe Virtus.pro Jan 27 '17
I was top 1% after groups and just lost gold in the first fucking match
What a fucking scam, you smash groups and get anally railroaded in the playoffs. Losing 29 points in one game is a terrible format, almost no point playing groups
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u/TehDragonGuy CS2 HYPE Jan 27 '17
Same here. Got 8/9 in groups but can't even get gold any more. Way to ruin Pick'em the way they've made it.
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u/Big_Dirty_Piss_Boner Jan 27 '17
7/9 in groupstage. Can't get Gold now lol.
Fuck this Pick'em
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u/Xamuel1804 de_inferno Jan 27 '17
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u/pikslik ar_baggage Jan 27 '17
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u/Whateverididntwantit NiP Jan 27 '17
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u/GAGAgadget CS2 HYPE Jan 27 '17
Just realized that device looks a lot like Tom Cruise lol...
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u/Mickymeast Astralis Jan 27 '17
You had this ready in advance didn't you ;)
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u/pikslik ar_baggage Jan 27 '17
I might have started working on it during overpass... That mirage game really got me questioning whether I'd be needing it - holy fuck was that game hemorrhoid-enducing..
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u/P90404 Astralis Jan 27 '17
I'm going to be dead by 30 at this rate. My heart can't take this.
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u/PrevailingYou G2 Jan 27 '17
After the last round on Mirage I really thought Astralis were going to be on full tilt. Holy shit, I can'r begin to think how relieved they must feel!
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Jan 27 '17 edited Sep 22 '19
Edited using Power Delete Suite
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u/P90404 Astralis Jan 27 '17
Yea, it both of the last two maps could have been won by either Na'Vi or Astralis. Absoulutely insane game.
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u/c_chan21 Jan 27 '17
Device just shat on navi.
Won so many duels.
Guardian is a shell of himself.
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Jan 27 '17
Device was 18:9 in opening duels vs Navi. Source.
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u/Whateverididntwantit NiP Jan 27 '17
THORINWASRIGHT
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u/GuardianThatDoesStuf Jan 27 '17
How could this happen to me?
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u/Lepojka1 Team Spirit Jan 27 '17
AndersWasRight, he believed in Astralis far before Thorin, and predicted them wining Major :>
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Jan 27 '17
even a broken clock is right twice a day
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u/SirJacobTehgamarh Virtus.pro Jan 27 '17
Guess he should just stop doing any predictions while on analyst desk
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u/_Oomph_ 500k Celebration Jan 27 '17
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Jan 27 '17
If Astralis lost this match cus of round 29 of Mirage...
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u/maru321 Astralis Jan 27 '17
should have been 2-0 but lets take it!
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Jan 27 '17
a million pickems cried out in terror
surely an exciting and tense series but Na'Vi just looked out of it in most gunrounds
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u/esach Jan 27 '17
Navi still look lost on there tsides post zeus. Think everyone just got caught up in the hype due to how dominant there ct halves were in group stage.
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u/ButteredGhost Jan 27 '17
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CAN'T WAIT FOR THE S1MPLE WITH LIQUID AT MAJOR VS S1MPLE WITHOUT LIQUID AT MAJOR MEME MONTAGE
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u/Kon_Eclypse Jan 27 '17 edited Jan 27 '17
RIP my Pick'em and a lot of other people's too. How to lose 29 points and gold trophy in 1 match.
Anyway, it was a great match and gz to Astralis for going forward.
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u/halofreak7777 Virtus.pro Jan 27 '17
After Gambits loss I also am out of even getting the Silver. I will be lucky to get Bronze!
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Jan 27 '17
GOOD BYE PICKEMS
FUCK YEA THOUGH LETS WIN MAJOR BOIISSSSS
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u/Orion-Gaming Astralis Jan 27 '17
You voted against astralis,yet you use that flair? You bring dishonor to us all
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u/_Oomph_ 500k Celebration Jan 27 '17
s1mple went further in a major with fucking Liquid twice.... even when they had Adren...
ADREN!!!!
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u/RadiantSun FaZe Jan 27 '17
What an amazing series. Could have easily been the final.
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Jan 27 '17
This should have been the final, holy shit. Amazing to see Navi and Astralis perform so well!
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u/scols101 Jan 27 '17
Na'Vi didnt really do that much wrong; against lower level teams they would have won but Astralis is godlike atm. Particularly impressed with Gla1ve's reads, especially on overpass where every decision went their way.
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u/Knorikus Jan 27 '17
Guardian was really struggling
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Jan 27 '17
He lost so many important rounds, like the first pistol where the t's were running up ramp not even looking at him and he just wildly shot at them missing everything.
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u/Saggygrundle Jan 27 '17
Why didn't Guardian give the awp to simple, he keep missing and i think thats why they lost.
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u/Inquizitory 500k Celebration Jan 27 '17
navi should start banning overpass. their main strat of three man boosts hardly pays off
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u/Ajp_iii Jan 27 '17
it annoyed me on t side mirage navi was having s1mple lurk. why not have him entry with flamie. device is so good with his positioning.
it seems like navi is still trying to play super structured when they should be playing more loose with the players they have. also navi you need to buy nades on second round
navi had no clue how to play t side and had awful mid round calls. if you have a weak igl you cant play so slow
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u/FamilyShoww HEROIC Jan 27 '17
HOLY SHIT WHAT A GAME
This might have been the 2 best teams in the tournament. Such high level of play in this match.
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u/boineg Jan 27 '17
how can device look so good and play so well with every gun in the game at the same time
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u/-RedLink- Jan 27 '17
ThoorinWasRight Navi just ran around like headless chickens and fed Device. Guardian played like so much ass.
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u/I_am_Bruce_Wayne NiP Jan 27 '17
Funny thing is that s1mple went further with Liquid in the last 2 majors...
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u/MikeTheAverageReddit Jan 27 '17 edited Jan 27 '17
Best game of the event. What a player Device is!
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u/LambOfGojira Astralis Jan 27 '17
No words. So many heart attacks, but we made it. Astralis will take it all now.
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u/Livinglifeform Jan 27 '17
Inb4 playing vs fnatic and they miss every shot and get knifed every round and lose 16-0 twice in a row.
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u/Mernox Astralis Jan 27 '17
LETS GO!! I would've been sooo salty if Astralis lost. Navi didn't deserve it at all.. They only relied on individual performances. Amazing series!!
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u/crazybiga Jan 27 '17
although navi have proven to be strong this major and are likely to have been the contender for the final, ppl r overhyping them way too much based off their performance in the group stages. as dupreeh said "we've done the same thing at previous Majors, just slaughtering everyone in group stages and then going into the playoffs being completely sloppy."
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u/howdybear Virtus.pro Jan 27 '17
Just want to say /u/Shadow_Wave predicted 2/3 of the scorelines perfectly and was downvoted.
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u/Shadow_Wave FaZe Jan 27 '17
Thanks bud! 5 rounds off the entire match, I'm so hyped right now!
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u/Chokeman de_nuke Jan 27 '17
holyfuck !!! Astralis are the team with the most complicated strats i've ever seen in CS:GO by far.
Glaive's playbook makes ex6's looks like pug strats.
their reads, fakes, rotations, executes, everything are goddamn impressive.
but sometimes i feel like they just think too much and outplay themselves. they should have ended this game much earlier if they played some rounds more simple.
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u/Wallisaurus SK Jan 27 '17
This was a great game.
Felt so bad for Xyp9x when he lost that 1 vs 2 on Mirage that would have put them in overtime. They were perfectly lined up.
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u/ScuddyOfficial CS2 HYPE Jan 27 '17
As NaVi fan... i am devastated... as an Astralis fan... im confused.
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u/PredatorHHJ Jan 28 '17
You can see after the 10:10 on the third map that s1mple got really mad and just threw the game after that. He's still the toxic boy of his past. Incredible.
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u/Orion-Gaming Astralis Jan 27 '17
Incoming Astralis Bandwagons. I'M SO PROUD OF THE BOYS HOLY SHIIIIIIIIT
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u/NexYT THUNDER Jan 27 '17
"They both deserved to win." Bullshit. Na'Vi made shit calls that entire half, no utility used, couldn't win an anti-eco to save their lives. Na'Vi needs a strat-caller cause right now, they're relying on players to show up who just don't sometimes.
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u/DerpAntelope Astralis Jan 27 '17
Astralis also fucked up two anti-ecos in the first half of D2, allowing Navi to get into the game and take the half.
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Jan 27 '17
Coldzera, when getting stomped (3-16) has a rating of 0.97. S1mple in a close game has a 0.95 rating.
That says a lot to the people people that say s1mple is better than cold.
Source: http://www.hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=40940 (cold vs NaVi) http://www.hltv.org/news/19748-astralis-defeat-navi-in-atlanta (S1mple vs Astralis)
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u/Boomer425 Jan 27 '17
I don't think one map/ match can ever really say a lot about a player, except maybe if the performance is extremely good or extremely bad. Not saying s1mple>cold but that reasoning doesn't make sense.
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u/nba4lifeee Jan 27 '17
gl1ve got more kills through the smoke than normal kills these games...lmao and people accused flusha of cheating back in the days.
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u/minotaurdadragonborn G2 Jan 27 '17
It is amazing how fucking stupid Na'Vi is... playing slow when they have such amazing explosive players. Beyond that, the horrible fucking calls... Near the end of Dust 2, they know 2 CT players are on A and one is mid... they can EASILY rush B (as they had a guy lower/mid who can walk into B site).... Edward almost always out of position doing stupid shit. Astralis even played like utter garbage on Dust 2 with horrible positioning, poor flash bangs and bad decision making and yet Na'Vi still loses.
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u/ehciN Jan 27 '17
RIP my Pick'em, had NaVi to win the final too :/
GG to Astralis, hope they go the entire way!
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u/sorenslothe Astralis Jan 27 '17
I'm over the god damn fucking moon. What an absolutely insane game, holy shit. Lost for words!
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u/zorokvillian Jan 27 '17
Astralis disappointed me in the Pick'em two times already... Once in the group stage and another in the Quarter Finals :(
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Jan 27 '17
fantastic games, im really happy astralis won because shit man i would have been suicidal if i was xyp9x and we lost
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u/Nurse_Sunshine King NiKo Jan 27 '17
Why did you lose to that force after the second pistol? WHYYY???
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u/JohnyGPTSOAD Jan 27 '17
Not even Na'Vi can stop Astralis from choking in the semis!